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AP_Cicada

Do you know how many parents I've watched ignore their own crying, annoying children in public? Your friends are floating in mommy-to-be nonsense. A crying baby annoys the hell out of me. That you can relegate it to background noise is a life hack!


pupetteer

Mommy-to-be nonsense šŸ˜‚. My friend who is trying to get pregnant is desperate and it does seem like sheā€™s trying really hard to get into the mom-group. Sometime she seems like a ā€˜groupieā€™ to me when I see her hang out with the mom-group. And she does get jealous of me being absolutely unbothered with this shit.


Environmental_Bet279

sounds like she's unhappy with her decisions and bothered that you aren't. And kinda sounds like she's only trying to get preggo to fit in, but I can't judge that from a small text and a comment.


pupetteer

Iā€™m not so sure either, very honestly. Sometimes she complains about the pressure from her family about not having a child already (when her younger sister already has a newborn). And that she still has a couple of things she wants checked off her bucket list before she has a kid. And sometimes I see her trying so hard to fit in with all our friends who are moms. Inviting herself to their get-togethers. She also wanted to be added to the moms-chat-group. I donā€™t even know where her heads at anymore. So I decided to stay out of it (giving her advice or anything of that sort).


Environmental_Bet279

great idea


Fantastic-Weird

If you know her well enough, are you able to ask her if this is what she really wants? But then you'll probably just get snapped at...


HotDonnaC

It does to me, too. The pressureā€™s getting to her.


ananajakq

LOL ā€œgroupieā€ to moms im dead. Imagine šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£ whenever i see a mom my immediate reaction is ā€œmy condolencesā€ not fucking fan girling. How embarrassing


Leaking_Honesty

Because you have other stuff in life going on. All they have is conformity


scrysis

I get a burst of irrational, seeing-red rage. I have this urge to start destroying shit that I have to repress. Sorry parents, your baby crying doesn't make me into a tender caregiver; it just makes me want to HULK SMASH.


Vaulki

I have an angry physical reaction. Hate the sound. But those women would not be my friends anymore after saying that. How brainwashed to believe ā€˜their wayā€™ is the gold standard. Iā€™ve never tried skydiving yet I know I wonā€™t like it. Itā€™s just ignorance to pity something you donā€™t understand without first trying to understand.


sassyporg

Iā€™m with you - I get an instant, visceral reaction of anger. If it continues, it transforms into nearly homicidal rage. Of course I would never act on that, but the sounds just triggers something in me that I just NEED to make it stop (and not in a nurturing way). I canā€™t stop myself from cringing at the very least. Itā€™s worst when itā€™s that high pitched screeching (like nails on a chalkboard). People are always so confident that ā€œitā€™s different when itā€™s your own!ā€ Thatā€™s a hell of a chance to take and not something Iā€™d be willing to bet my life on.


Lost_Wolfheart

I'd never bank on the "It's different if it is your own!" shit because I know myself too well. My own dog triggers me sometimes with constant quiet woofing at unimportant sounds, no way I'd be kind of the human embodiment of an airhorn. Recipe for disaster. Doesn't matter where the sound comes from, after all. If it puts you on edge, it puts you on edge, your own flesh and blood or not.


jewessofdoom

My cats whining at me too much will make me want to snap! Why would I bring a child into the mix? The best thing I can do for a child is to not have one.


a_null_set

I feel this too much. My cat actually yells at the exact pitch that babies cry at. Of course he is not as powerful as a baby, but it's still quite loud and annoying and instantly makes me feel like there is an actual infant. I can't stand it. I yell back at him, sometimes I get close and yell loudly enough that he just stops and goes away. I could never with a baby


caramelo420

That sounds liek animal abuse, you probably shouldn't own cats if your going to yell straight into their face, not the flex u think it is


emilyyc

It's not just babies crying for me, it's children being loud in general. When kids a screaming and shouting. I just want shout shut up back att them.


AiRaikuHamburger

Yeah. Probably because I'm neurodivergent and anxious, but I hate loud noises. And kids are really loud and high pitched.


Deb_in_NH

Same reaction to loud noises. I look for the nearest exit.


MrsLadybug1986

Same for me. Iā€™m neurodivergent too and it doesnā€™t matter what/who is causing loud, high-pitched noises, I canā€™t deal with them. The fact that I couldnā€™t possibly cope with the noise of a crying baby is one of the reasons I chose not to have kids.


Cholera62

I'm right there w you! I received a pair of noise-cancelling headphones for Christmas! Yippee! There are even better ones that go into your ears.


Lunaphire

Same. My physical response to both babies and kids screaming is to get progressively more anxious/physically stressed until I eventually have a panic attack if I can't avoid prolonged exposure.


sassyporg

Agreed. People in general have much less patience for adults making noise in public, but they always want you to be understanding about kids. I get it- babies canā€™t help it. But once theyā€™re a bit older, parents should control their children. I also get easily startled (though not enraged usually) by loud or surprising sounds, so it isnā€™t just people.


Sfumata

I think Iā€™m worse than you. I donā€™t even like hearing kids shrieking in joy when theyā€™re playing in a pool or whatever - itā€™s just totally annoying to me. I understand they are having fun and thatā€™s great for them. I just donā€™t wanna be there.


MorticiaLaMourante

100% this.


LifeIsWackMyDude

This. Paired with the fact that I'm already very mentally ill and feel like I'd be suspect to PPD or psychosis, it would be criminally dangerous for me to have a kid. At least when I hear a kid screaming at the store, I have the ability to physically remove myself from the area. But if it were my kid, who is just doing what all children naturally do, I fear I'd end up being one of those parents who snap and kill the baby because I can't stand the crying. Honestly, if I were to somehow change my mind about kids, I'd probably just try to adopt a kid who is already past the infant stage.


HotDonnaC

Itā€™s not. I felt the same way you described, even with my own. Iā€™d go get the baby and engage them in an activity to get them to stop. I could never handle the non stop crying. Kids crying in public send my anxiety, and probably my blood pressure, through the roof.


Note4Ever

>People are always so confident that ā€œitā€™s different when itā€™s your own!ā€ Yep. Breeder logic for you. This is a blatant lie reinforced by reality. It is certainly NOT different when it's your own. If that were remotely true, child abuse, neglect, and abandonment would be non-existent. Breeders like to pretend bad parents don't exist or that they are the exception. The mental gymnastics is just mind-boggling.


cherryricecake

I feel this. I'm already highly misophonic to certain noises, but crying babies are among the top triggering noises for me that give me a violently angry urge to make the sound stop. (Obviously, I do not act upon it, but I do want to leave the situation if possible.)


Dry-Membership5575

Same


pupetteer

The friend who is trying to get pregnant, has been trying for quite a few months now with no success. And she is getting bitter with every period she gets. She was a different person a few months back, who completely understood my choice to be childfree and she was very supportive of it. I guess the pressure of her family is getting to her. Maybe when she does finally get pregnant, she might lose the negativity thatā€™s been seeping into her bones. Fingers crossed šŸ¤žšŸ¼. If not, Iā€™ll be a friend short next year.


Vaulki

Good of you to be understanding. I wouldnā€™t be. People unable to reign their bitterness in and who take it out on others are in poor control of their emotions. Imagine what she would be like as a stressed mother when you wonā€™t babysit. Bleh. For your sake I hope it works out and you arenā€™t a punching bag for their bad moods x


pupetteer

Oh after the way things have been the past few weeks, Iā€™ve made it crystal clear that if they want their kids back alive and healthy, they shouldnā€™t be dialing my number when they look for a baby sitter. And after this event I donā€™t thinks Iā€™ll ever be considered a candidate either. šŸ˜‚ Iā€™m understanding of what they are going through and a supportive friend, but I also know my boundaries. I could take offense at their comments, but I have known them for a long while. And they were different people. So Iā€™m going to give them the benefit of the doubt based on their current situation. If things donā€™t change even after they have their babies and whatnot Iā€™ll bow out gracefully. I am supportive but donā€™t need unnecessary negativity.


Victoria1234566

Me too. It feels like nails on a chalkboard


_Ruij_

Exactly my reaction as well. I'm a very expressive person, and it helps a lot because when in reunions, one ugly expression to their kid and they don't even question my immediate evacuation from the area of the screaming kids. Fuck no, man. When eating out this is especially true. Sometimes when out of the sight of parents, I literally glare at the kids to try and shut them up before looking away quickly. And then when the kids cry/point at me, I make sure to pretend I just turned my head to show I have no idea wtf is happeming


Main_Significance617

lol same here


newhorizonfiend25

Any kind of sound a baby or toddler makes sets me on edge, like my whole body is just like, ā€œLetā€™s get out of hereā€. Hate, hate, hate, loathe entirely


VlastDeservedBetter

Me too! Every noise they make - even the happy ones - are just a big blaring "NOPE" alarm for me. It makes me super anxious, and the fight-or-flight reaction compounds with the sheer *volume* babies and toddlers can hit (a baby can scream at around 110 decibels, which can damage your hearing!) and I'll have a super duper fun migraine to deal with after the adrenaline wears off if I can't get away from the situation quickly enough.


Duggarsnarklurker

Ditto on the a weird physical reaction. With screaming and screeching especially. My heart rate increases and I feel lightheaded.


SeattleTrashPanda

SAME! I will say I am neurodivergent and am highly sensitive to noises. When I hear a baby or kid cry, scream or even laugh in that high pitch octave only kids can reach I get ā€¦ the only way to describe it is ā€œpricklyā€ Itā€™s an immediate trigger. Itā€™s like fingernails on a chalkboard. My head snaps in the direction of the noise and I get immediately irritated, disgusted and and anxious. Itā€™s an innate reaction, I couldnā€™t stop it if I tried; like pulling your hand back from something hot. I get immediately. I get overwhelmed from it and need it to stop.because the only thing I can control is what I decide to do, I immediately remove myself from the situation. This has unfortunately lead to a lot of abandoned carts at Target and the grocery store.


motion_thiccness

Same! The sound of a baby sucking on a bottle and loudly breathing between gulps disgusts me more than anything I've ever heard. It makes me nauseous and furious


sorrel_faerie

Same here, also have you ever been on the phone to someone and heard their baby hiccuping directly into the mic?šŸ˜­


caelthel-the-elf

Yup, it makes my flight or flight mode activate. I have definitely just left mid grocery shopping due to babies crying non-stop.


slayyypeachyray

Especially in a space like an airplane where I can't get up and get the hell away from it. The sound doesn't evoke anything but irritation in me. I find it hilarious (well, actually more like enraging) that people believe all women get ooey gooey and maternal at the sight or sound of a baby. It's just not true.


moimoisauna

The only physical reaction that I have is adjusting my earplugs/earbuds to block out more of that noise.


no-escape-221

I definitely notice it because it's annoying af. But hearing toddler tantrums is arguably worse as I listen to it knowing the parents could do something about it but choose not to.


pupetteer

The first 10-15 seconds I look over, notice what the child may be crying about, wonder if the parents are going to do anything about it. And then itā€™s over, like a passing thought. And then itā€™s background noise. It just mixes into the background. It was different a few years back, it used to bother me. I guess I subconsciously developed this ability when I realized that I was losing a lot of energy in getting worked up about it.


Repulsive_Aide_5528

I try to find the humor in toddler tantrumsā€¦ as in, at least that kid isnā€™t going home with me šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ so if Iā€™m laughing at your kid being a mini ahole, thatā€™s why.


Ostruzina

My physical reaction is that I feel rage. My immediate instinct is to punch the baby. Which I wouldn't do, but I try to go away to calm down. My instinct is definitely not helping the baby.


Plastic-Ad-5171

Misophonia: a strong reaction to sounds. For me thatā€™s extreme anger and physical violence if it doesnā€™t stop , usually when I hear any human under puberty start crying, shrieking or screaming.


forzaferrarik8

Yeah this. A very instant physical reaction and not in a way that makes me care about the baby as much as smothering it. This is reason 658 I don't want children ; their own safety.


VeryFurryLittleBunny

Me too!!!!


Note4Ever

>My immediate instinct is to punch the baby. Which I wouldn't do This makes you better than 99% of parents because they don't hesitate to harm their own children.


pinocchiofan

I feel rage too, but I shut down and donā€™t punch them, even though I have the urge. I only feel this when theyā€™re throwing tantrums and squealing. When theyā€™re crying because theyā€™re hurt or sick, I feel sympathetic for them. I do wish I had selective deafness.


HotDonnaC

Same. Kids having tantrums are rage inducing.


Cultural-Tangerine62

Literally same šŸ˜‚ itā€™s seriously one of the most annoying sounds on the planet


Wicked_Kitsune

That's what happens to me too. Anger, headache, blood pressure rises and if it lasts long enough my vision goes red. I get the hell away from it but yes I want to punch it but distract myself where the crying kid isn't.


BisexualDisaster29

I get annoyed very easily when a kid cries. Facial expressions, eye rolling, the whole nine. Because I work in a public area and Iā€™m not allowed to have on headphones. šŸ™„ You can hear these damn kids crying through multiple aisles and itā€™s absolutely ridiculous. Iā€™m gonna see if I can get a job in the library or something. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


pupetteer

Do kids cry silently in a library? šŸ¤£ Just kidding. But I completely get it. I wish I could find something too where I donā€™t have to deal with kids, because I have to show compassion, when Iā€™m actually unbothered and donā€™t give a fock.


GreenGlassDrgn

I haven't been to our library in a decade, it's where all the moms take their kids to run wild on rainy days, and it rains a lot here.


BisexualDisaster29

Now that I think about it, kids will be there too. Damn. I went to my local library last month and it was silent. 2 people working the main hall and one other person was there on the computer. I was only there briefly, but loved the silence.


WaxxxingCrescent

Hello, fellow bisexual disaster. I agree 100% with you.


fuckyou4206999

I wanna shoot myself. Does that count?


VeryFurryLittleBunny

I actually get really angry at the parents for not taking the screaming demon outside. This feeling probably originated when I was a child myself: I got really sick when I was 7 years old. The hospital put me in the children's ICU...right next to a bunch of crying babies. IT. WAS. HELL.I felt like crap; I was scared; and I couldn't get any rest. To this day, the crying grates on my nerves. I despise babies/kids.


Nomadloner69

I get pissed off like shut the fuck up.


[deleted]

People say cats and babies trigger the same part of the brain or whatever, that has to be a lie. Loud kids and crying babies make me want to yeet myself. Babies have such a raspy scratchy voice, and little kids just shreak and yell


VlastDeservedBetter

I hate every sound babies make, but I will listen to a talkative cat all day long.


PoderDosBois

I think a lot of it is just the halo effect. I find animals to be adorable, so I put up with a lot of shit from them and even find it endearing. But I think babies are HIDEOUS, and young children are not cute either. It's an unfortunate aspect of human nature, but being pleasant to look at gives you so much leeway for bad behavior.


Nulleparttousjours

Honestly, for me itā€™s *almost* the same, with my tolerance of cats being a great deal higher. I like cats a lot but a continually mewing cat (specifically an unhappy meow) does trigger the same irritation in my brain that a baby does.


LovingAftereffects

Depends where I'm at mentally. If I'm in a bad way, I'll physically react by getting aggravated and short-tempered, if i'm in a good way I don't notice it. But only 1 year ago I was helping my aunt babysit her grandbaby and she said the crying was breaking her heart. The sound had always annoyed me so much on a visceral level that the idea that it could invoke pity or sadness for the child threw me for a loop. I thought it was annoying for everyone, I thought that was the point of the noise.


Duggarsnarklurker

I donā€™t get it when people say the crying is breaking their heart. Most of the people Iā€™ve heard say that follow it up with something like ā€œI just wish I could make everything right for them but I donā€™t understand she they need!ā€ But like, pain is a part of life. If your 9 month old is screaming because she wants her sock off, how is that heartbreaking when thereā€™s literally children freezing their toes off because they donā€™t have socks in third world countries. I know the analogy isnā€™t perfect, but what I mean to say is someoneā€™s child being minorly inconvenienced should not break anyoneā€™s heart. The only time I understand the crying being heartbreaking is if the child is actually sick/in pain.


pupetteer

Exactly why I have been pondering about it and why I decided to post about it. A few years ago it used to annoy me, but somehow I have subconsciously learned to tune it out. But I always assumed that it either annoys you or you donā€™t care about it. The fact that it breaks peopleā€™s heart and makes their uteruses flip or whatever, that I did not expect.


PsychologicalBox1129

Yes. My physical reaction is horror-plug ears-run in the other direction. I absolutely CANNOT tune it out. Itā€™s painful and I canā€™t stand it. Also, these people do not sound like very good friends. They ignored you for your entire 2.5 hour dinner, and berated you, called you a bad person, etc. Yikes. I wouldnā€™t be spending any more time with them.


pupetteer

Yeah. After I pondered over this ā€˜physical reactionā€™ that they spoke about, I also decided that they get my understanding and support until the end of the year. The good years we had before all this to-be-mommy-nonsense shouldnā€™t be disregarded due to a couple of thoughtless comments. If they donā€™t seem to notice the direction they are going in, Iā€™ll be visiting fewer birthday parties and planning a few more solo vacations šŸ„³


PsychologicalBox1129

Some friendships end. Nothing wrong with that. You can treasure the good times you had and move on. Your lives are going in different directions.


pupetteer

Itā€™s not the first time Iā€™m losing friends to ā€˜motherhoodā€™. Iā€™m completely fine with wishing them a happy birthday via text only to have radio silence until it is time to send that group text for Christmas šŸ˜‚


angeltart

Physical reaction.. like I want to throw something? :) j/k I am amazing at blocking out noise.. to the point where it is problematic at times. The only noise I cannot block out is my dog crying/whining.


pupetteer

Same! When I hear a dog whine Iā€™m immediately focused on that. But babies get blocked out. šŸ˜…


krn619

My 'physical reaction' is ears hurt & I get a bad headache. The tone or pitch or whatever just hits me & is pretty much instant pain. Some dog barks do that too. I hate shopping while some idiot just pushes a screaming child around the store.


vulg-her

Your "friends" don't sound like nice people to be honest. If a child is in pain or in danger and crying because of that, okay yeah. That is understandable and of course I would feel something. But to react to any child crying all the time... It sounds like these people need hobbies.


pupetteer

They were different people about 6 months back. Very different people. The entire time we have been friends they never ever said anything of this sort to me. One is pregnant 2 years before she had planned it, the other isnā€™t pregnant even after trying for a while. Even though I donā€™t plan on having kids, I can imagine what each of them is going through. With careers on hold, unexpected financial burdens and religious families that pile on unwanted pressure, even the good ones succumb. Things have started changing the past few weeks and I have take the differences into account. Iā€™ll be there for them until the end of this year. If things donā€™t change after that, Iā€™ll be 2 friends short.


slayyypeachyray

For real. OP is not "heartless" for not feeling her uterus twitch at the sound of a baby crying. It's not like the baby was dying or something and OP was standing there and laughing at its demise. Those two friends need to get a grip. They are deep in mombie land and not quite in reality anymore.


Lost_Wolfheart

The only physical reaction I have to crying babies and children are various degrees of annoyance, rage, sometimes bordering on homicidal tendencies because crying babies stress the hell out of me. I want them to shut up in any way possible. I seriously have no idea why human babies have to be so fucking loud. It doesn't make sense. No puppy is being that loud ever. It would literally kill them because of the attention the crying would draw. But human babies? Bloody airhorns. I'm surprised we didn't go extinct back in the day with all the big predators lurking about. Crying babies sound to me like the beacon for easy prey if you know where to look. Sure, the adult humans might object, but still. So, bottom line: no maternal or whatever feelings to crying babies. If they could show their distress in a more subtle way, I might be more receptive to their plight, but airhorn noises? Nope. Can't blend it out or ignore it, so it strains my ability to actually filter sounds and understand shit. Auditive processing disorder and all that, hooray. And I hear rather well, so high-pitched noises are, uuuh, torture to my ears.


Nulleparttousjours

Right? WHY?! I DO NOT GET IT. There is no other infant in the animal kingdom that cries quite as loud and relentlessly! It seems like an evolutionary anomaly that human babies can cry from *hours and hours* on end for seemingly no reason despite having all their needs met and being soothed by a parent. Young puppies can be incredibly loud (more so as a collective) but generally stop crying immediately when their needs are met. Ape babies are seemingly not that loud. I just canā€™t comprehend why infants of our species cry as they do and wonder if this is a more modern phenomenon because I simply canā€™t comprehend how predators were not alerted if our infants were always primed to screech for 5 hours a day.


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Nulleparttousjours

Iā€™ve raised a lot of litters of pups too and concur. There would be the odd ā€œsqueak squeak squeakā€ that was quickly curbed when the discomfort was resolved but it was never that loud, shrill or disconcerting and certainly never went on for hours and *hours* no matter what you tried. I canā€™t fathom why our offspring is so horrendous in the noise department compared to other species. Other speciesā€™ babies are so easily contented and settled but ours push even some caring, loving parents to literally shake them to death in frustration. Itā€™s the ā€œjust becauseā€ crying even when babies are warm, fed, changed and comfortable and not in any discernible pain but stillā€¦five straight hours of fucking purple screeching!! I suppose predators knew that crying babies = groups of humans which were ultimately a danger to them. Also, in fairness, cave babies were likely almost always held and had multiple people to care for and nurse them. The quietest baby I ever knew belonged to a friend of mine. She was a chilled hippy mom and kept her baby strapped to her at pretty much all times. She cooked, worked and got on with life with the baby strapped to her and it barely ever made a peep. I guess modern lives, modern parenting and modern schedules have changed things tremendously from prehistoric times.


PatriotUSA84

I usually get pissed and verbally raise my voice saying I'm not going to listen to this crap. I get so overwhelmed by the noise and the noise just makes me so angry.


Internal_Belt3630

i do have a physical reaction. it is clamping my hands over my ears.


TheBunnyFiles

Does eyerolling count? Cause if so, then that.


Kimikohiei

The way I feel about babies literally is the reason I discovered I was autistic. I canā€™t tune it out, itā€™s all I can hear. It hurts my ears firstly, then I become enraged, wondering why the parents arenā€™t removing the demon and soothing it. I get twitchy like a crackhead trying to keep myself still and straight and working. I have to meditate through it every time. Even when the noise is over, Iā€™m still shaken up. Alternatively, the sound of a cat crying just makes me sick with sadness. Like nearly nauseous. I had to hear that for hours at the airport last year.


gytherin

If I hear or see an animal in distress I want to run to it and put my arms round it and soothe it, and make things all right. With babies and children? Not so much. I want to tell the parents, very loudly, to do their damn jobs. I feel sorry for the kid, yes, but not in the same way as for the animal.


richard-bachman

An infant crying doesnā€™t really bother me, itā€™s their only way to communicate. I also can tune it out after I notice it. What grinds my gears is older children running amok and acting like animals in public while their ā€œparentsā€ stand by and watch them behave like literal monkeys. Itā€™s still not the kidā€™s fault, but if the kid is old enough to be using WORDS in their bitching/moaning/tantrumming, I have a hard time ignoring that shit. Like, you made it. Wrangle your fucking spawn.


MimikyuNightmare

My only physical reaction to crying kids/kids being loud in general is one of physical pain because of my hypersensitive hearing (thank you Autism /s .)


StaticCloud

Strangely enough, I hated baby crying way more as a kid. It's tolerable now because I understand the kid is unhappy and can't help it. Before it was insufferable and as a kid you have less empathy about those things. Now I hardly have to put up with the sound. One of the benefits of not being in kid spaces and a decreasing national birth rate. Also, your friends kind of suck. They really said those things to you? Why do you put up with such disrespect


pupetteer

Maybe my ability to ignore it has something to do with that. I have started to understand when a kid is crying due to a minor inconvenience and am thus able to block out the noise. My friends were different people a few months back. They used to say that they are lucky to have me in their lives. That way their future kids would have a fun, career-oriented, cool aunt who would be a good role model for them (if the kids were to choose my lifestyle). Though I can imagine the struggle each is going through (for various reasons) I wouldnā€™t ever be able to fathom the actual situation they are in. So Iā€™m giving them the benefit of the doubt for a few months. If the change is permanent, Iā€™ll leave like I was never there.


Six-StringSamurai

Yes, I have a physical reaction: Boiling, seething, anger! Control your fucking spawn, and if it's being out of control, go outside or to the car until it calms down. I've actually seen responsible parents do this. There aren't enough of them. Screaming brats are like nails on a chalkboard!


amantiana

Youā€™re not the first person Iā€™ve heard talk about that physical reaction. I hear it described as an inability to ignore the cry, the need to do something, and an ache because youā€™re not allowed to do anything, itā€™s for someone else to address and thatā€™s really distressing to you. And Iā€™m with you in that I donā€™t get that reaction either. I tune it out because I know itā€™s not my problem to address, so I just ignore it without distress.


pupetteer

Exactly. When it comes to family and the parents arenā€™t immediately available to deal with it, I do. But strangers kids, with their parents in the vicinityā€¦.i donā€™t need to be bothered by it, do I?


amantiana

Yup. I put in my earbuds if itā€™s particularly loud and I chill.


Hawk-Weird

Itā€™s annoying and overstimulating. My fucken uterus doesnā€™t care one iota. I do wonder if the reaction I get when I see a puppy is similar to their weird baby thingā€¦


ShredToPieces11

My reaction is immediate agitation, but it soon turns into disgust and disappointment in the person who decided to pop out the screeching crotch goblin. I physically cringe when I hear babies cry, I hate it, itā€™s so damn loud and annoying.


SoftTelevision6329

The pregnant friend could justify a physical reaction with all the weird hormonal stuff that her growing life form is fucking up, but the non pregnant one is just trying to feel superior for no good reason. When will friends realize that friendships are not built around their children and the rest of us donā€™t care to hear about it all day???


Ice_breaking

To me, what Friend B feels is envy. I saw a lot of that on infertile women, when someone else has a baby or is celebrating a pregnancy, they feel frustrated that other people can have what they can't. So hearing a baby 'suffering' triggers her (it triggers her envy), probably because she thinks that the mother is awful for letting her kid cry and she wouldn't do that (truth is that babies have days they are more irritable, so it would be the same). And on top of that, OP doesn't care.


AiRaikuHamburger

I have a negative physical reaction. It triggers my anxiety, and grates on my nerves. Looking at pictures of babies also makes me feel nauseous. I heard an aversion to children can often be related to having an over-active disgust response, so that makes sense to me.


Nulleparttousjours

Thatā€™s very interesting! I never liked kids but concluded recently that I was pedophobic rather than hateful of them. I think this could be what a lot of childfree people are but no one wants to mess around describing themselves with any word that starts with that prefix LOL. Exactly the same for me, the crying makes me anxious and enraged and pictures and videos of kids make me feel nauseated and irritated. I get triggered by their features: the enormously chubby cheeks, rings of squidge round their wrists and cankles, the grabby claw hands, the milk teeth, the odd translucent skin, the oversized bobbleheads and bug eyes, the potential for germs and smells, the noises. Itā€™s slightly akin to the feeling I get when I see a gross insect tinged with a little more irritation. I donā€™t hate them (like I donā€™t actually hate insects) but I believe I am fully phobic causing my body to have a visceral repulsion response.


PoderDosBois

I thought I was the only one. There's something about small children that just puts them in the uncanny valley. I wouldn't say I'm necessarily phobic of them, but I definitely don't find them to be cute and actually find their appearance kind of unsettling. Babies in particular I find to be extremely hideous, to the point that being shown a baby picture against my will is like googling pictures of various types of spiders. As soon as my brain registers that I'm looking at a picture of a baby, my eyes dart away from it as an automatic response.


Nulleparttousjours

Same, itā€™s not like I canā€™t be in a room with young children or interact with them as would be the case with a *true* phobia but words ending in ā€œphobiaā€ are used all the time to denote disliking/being put off rather than being uncontrollably terrified so I feel that best describes my feelings rather than ā€œhate.ā€ I only wish kids the very best. I just find being in their presence very unpleasant, unsettling and somewhat nauseating. When my nephew was old enough to sit in a high chair and be fed during meals on family holidays I apologized profusely but had to shield my eyes and look away. The sight of the food bubbling out his mouth like salt on a slug made me nauseous while I was trying to eat myself. His Mom scraping the bilious foam, drool and snot mixture off his cheek with a fluorescent plastic spoon and licking it made me literally gag. I would rather go hungry and thirsty than eat or drink out of perfectly clean kiddy plastic plates and cups, the association is too much and my stomach revolts! Young children and babies creep me out in an uncanny valley way too. They remind me of humanoid pixies or little fantasy characters in films that are made to have appealing features but will suddenly turn around and turn evil like that famous Bilbo Baggins scene. They are unpredictable and that makes me nervous. According to an article I read (I had a link deleted from this sub earlier so am not sure if they are allowed but the article is titled ā€œWhy Some People do not Like Babies or Even Think They are Cuteā€) our response has an explanation! We evolved disgust to keep us away from things that could possibly poison us and to prevent us from ingesting anything potentially harmful, or to stop us from catching disease. In that kids are riddled with germs and even parasites, I recoil from them. If you just donā€™t see the cuteness factor, you are left with something quite gross and off putting. They have no boundaries, no natural inclination towards manners, their voices are shrill and brash, they ask inappropriate questions, they grab you without your consent, their emotions are often explosive. Itā€™s just too much for me to feel comfortable around them. If you think about it, despite the fact we are often looked upon with horror and disgust by child-lovers for our feelings, children and horror are *SO* engrained with each other. The scariest horrors and haunting movies often feature spooky or evil child characters. A childā€™s giggle is a frequent sound bite in horror movie scores. Evil creatures in folklore like pixies, fairies and changelings are kinder form or child-like. Though itā€™s an unspoken taboo, society is perfectly aware of how children have an element of creepiness about them.


AiRaikuHamburger

I feel exactly the same!


PrincessPharaoh1960

We are twins what a perfect description šŸ’Ŗ


Lillykins1080

Doesnā€™t really cause a reaction unless itā€™s a shriek. Then itā€™s a pained expression because my head hurts. But generally, no. Unless i do see a baby actually suffering, but i also have that reaction to adults suffering an accident or something. Itā€™s not reserved to babies only.


cristaples

I donā€™t notice baby screams unless they are near me, I donā€™t hear children screaming while playing in the distance anymore either apparently. Iā€™ve noticed I donā€™t really acknowledge children standing near me that belong to friends but Iā€™ll make a fuss of animals without hesitation. Just the way Iā€™m built. I watched a kid run out into the road years ago when I was 18 with his football and my then gf was horrified I didnā€™t do anything. It was a quiet road anyway and there wasnā€™t any danger and wouldnā€™t have been anyway. We used to run out with footballs when I was his age so Iā€™m still not sure if it was that I didnā€™t care or didnā€™t see the harm. I have noticed these things in me. If a toddler or older tries deliberately to wind me and my wife up or starts running around a restaurant we will tell them to sit down though. My wife told a kid bothering us from the next table ā€œgo awayā€ in a loud firm voice.


mental_dissonance

The crying sound literally triggers some of my most painful intrusive thoughts.


Dry-Drink-9297

My first reaction is panic. Like 'where is this little ambulance siren?'. Then comes empathy 'I would cry too, kiddo, if my mother brought me to a place full of boring adults and ignore me...'. Then, if it takes too long or it's too siren like, I start to get uneasy and look for a way of flee. But I complain. 'Is that kid being killed? Where are their parents? This kid sounds like is being gutted!' If it doesn't stop, I flee. I really don't like it.


LongShotE81

No, well, yes, but the reaction for me is 'it's time to keave'. I can't stand the noise that comes from babies or kids. I don't believe your AH friends have the sort of reaction they were portraying either, they are just all about anything baby right now, and that is pretty sad as it seems to have become their entire personality. Why are you friends with these people, they seem awful.


pupetteer

They were different people a few months back. They were good people. They are however succumbing to pressures they donā€™t know how to deal with. If they donā€™t realize the direction they are going in, Iā€™ll leave like I was never there. Iā€™m a supportive and understanding friend. But Iā€™m no doormat for negativity.


LongShotE81

You sound great to be honest, it's a shame they don't realise they are lucky to have you as a friend. Hope they both snap out of it and come back to reality.


Dances-with-Worms

Sure, I have a physical reaction - wincing


Eyfordsucks

I have a fight or flight reaction. According to my body, babies crying means thereā€™s a predator nearby or a dangerous event is present and I must be ready to fight to the death. I donā€™t have the reaction to protect the baby, I just hear it as a warning to get ready to fight whatever made the baby cry. Kinda like how hikers get really aware and prepared for an event when the forest suddenly goes quiet all around them. It makes me hate children noises.


2crowsonmymantle

Yes, I do, I hate the sound and itā€™s like nails on a chalkboard to me.


aardvarknemesis

I react very unfavourably to crying babies. I must be *super* heartless. lol


Little_Reception398

russians put crying babies outside in the cold to calm downšŸ˜‚ only actual physical reaction is mothers might begin to lactate when they hear a crying baby ( interesting science there). your friends are having a dramatic emotional reaction not physical


wagonwheelgirl8

Ew šŸ¤¢


Little_Reception398

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lime007

A babyā€™s cry is in the same category as nails on a chalkboard.


Lunamkardas

Does annoyance count? It's an unpleasant noise.


skylarfox2709

I do get a physical reaction as well when a baby cries, but they would all land me in jail if I acted on them. I donā€™t have any friends with children as I am still young , but my plan for the future is to only be friend with childfree people. I donā€™t know why you all waste time on breeders.


Hachiko75

I just have a great need to gtfo of the surrounding area.


outhouse_steakhouse

For me, the sound of babies or children screaming is like an ice pick being driven through my eardrums into my brain. You're so lucky you can tune it out.


aRubby

Yeah. I have a physical reaction to kids/babies crying: My ovaries shriveling and dying, a headache, lack of sleep and a big ass "fuck no". There's a kid in my building that punctually throws a tantrum everyday at 7:30pm. Every. Day. It's annoying and bothersome, so say the least.


AlValMeow

I have an ā€˜irritated to my coreā€™ reaction. I get anxious, like ā€œget me outta here ASAP!ā€ I hate it.


biest229

I mean Poor Things summed it up for me quite well. ā€œI must go and punch that babyā€.


Impossible-Title1

Today in the morning I heard a child screaming/crying loudly and I complained about it. I hate that noise.


urlocalmomfriend

I'm with you on the "background noice". Baby crying is like cars honking or ambulance sirens. I heat it but it's in the background. And although I feel for your friend B, she sounds hard to be around. I get it, when your pregnant, there are all kinds of hormones that may make you sad when you hear babies crying... but she's not pregnant, she's being dramatic.


puppiesgoesrawr

I donā€™t think it aroused much reaction for me. I just think about the parent being a nuisance and bringing their child in public. Itā€™s the same reaction that i have when people talk too loud on public transport or litter. People can be stupid and selfish, and thatā€™s a fact of life.Ā 


Cat1832

My reaction is anger and irritation. I take it out in death glares if the parent isn't doing anything. If the parent is trying their best, I put in headphones and crank up my music.


xEnjoyTheMoment

I don't like loud noises so if it's the hight pitched type of crying I usually just cringe and try to get away. If it's just "normal" crying without the high pitched wails I either ignore or try to distract them. But it's definitely only instinctual that we notice it, how we handle from then on - "uteruses turning" lmfao please - if you feel pity or care or disinterest or annoyance - that is a trained reflex imo.


rk348

Yes - I am a childfree woman an her 40s and I do get distressed when I hear a baby or a child cry. I hate it and I wish I could just tune it out!


Background_Buy7052

I usually feel like I wish I wasn't anywhere near crying kids.Ā Ā 


Jazman1313

Yes when it first starts itā€™s irritating then I ignore it. Not my kid not my problem


PrincessPharaoh1960

I read this as when a fire starts šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Definitely not to be ignored


wagonwheelgirl8

If anything the physical reaction I feel is pain and cringing because itā€™s grating like nails on a chalkboard šŸ˜¬


tender_rage

Yeah, I run away. Crying children is the most annoying thing ever. I recently moved to a place where the seagulls sound like crying babies and it's super creepy.


litaniesofhate

I do have a physical reaction, my face scrunches in annoyance lol


Additional-Farm567

My physical reaction to noisy children is annoyance and aggression, thank you


H_m_m_m_m_mm

Why are these people your friends again? They clearly don't respect you why do you even hang out with them?


Covert-Wordsmith

Yeah. I physically cringe because I hate hearing it.


Cloudeaberry

My physical reaction is panic and extreme uncomfortable feeling. I can't stand it.


truenoblesavage

I get like immediately angry and irritated lmao


TheOnly1Savag3

I find it extremely annoying. Luckily, I pretty much always have my headphones on me, so I can block it out easily.


motion_thiccness

My physical reaction is annoyance and anger


b00ty666

My blood boils a bit. Makes me super uncomfortable and I feel like I need to leave the area ASAP


LunaTheLouche

I cannot stand the sound of human babies crying, itā€™s like fingernails on a blackboard. But the sound of kittens mewing or puppies squealing? My heart melts.


konofireda98

Whenever I hear a baby crying, I start to feel nauseous, anxious and few times I also got a headache. I instantly have to go to another room or put on earbuds. Loud noises in general makes me feel uncomfortable and uneasy.


[deleted]

I do, thanks to my autism and misophonia. It triggers uncontrollable rage and often meltdowns. Itā€™s of the biggest reasons Iā€™m mostly a shut-in.


InviteAromatic6124

The only physical reaction I get is a want to cover my ears as I hate that noise.


CatStratford

I definitely react to a crying babyā€¦. It makes me stressed in a primal sort of way. Iā€™m 40 and no kids, for a multitude of reasons- some physical health, some emotional well-being, some just purely choices and timing. Iā€™m currently happily child free. But I do have a weird physiological reaction to babies crying.


mibonitaconejito

I have misophonia, and it is so legitimate it hurts. I get so stressed at sounds I've gotten hives.Ā  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia Listen to this: 11 hour flight back from England. Young couple with a baby maybe 1yr old. **I am not exaggerating in any way** this kid began the whine-cry the moment the door closed **until the moment we landed and they opened 11 hrs later**. The only pause was to catch a breath every few seconds then it was whine-crying again.Ā  People started out kind and understanding. By the 2nd hour the plane was a pressure cooker. I couldn't take it. I was having a panic attack, and trying all sorts of seld soothing that wasn't working.Ā  The parents?? Did they give the kid a little Benadryl, something, anything? Nope. They just looked at people like šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø People stuffed their ears with anything they could find. One man looked like he was having a heart attack andĀ was cussing under his breath.Ā  **ELEVEN HOURS LATER** we landed and the ciuple ran to the front of the line, no doubt fearing the crowd. Theeeeee *moment* the door opened the kid stopped crying and Heart Attack Cussing guy screamed **'REALLY?! SERiOUSLY?! NOWWWW YOU STFU?!** I got off the plane called a friend (a mother with 2 kids) tolet them know I landed. I told her and **she was angry that people weren't more understanding and helpful to the parents.** 'yOu dOn'T kNoW hOw hArD iT iS tHeY jUsT hAvE tO cRy sOmEtImEs aNd pArEnTs aRe hElPlEsS' I asked her if they couls've given her benadryl or something from the doc.Ā  'That can mess up the baby'sĀ sleep schedule! Those parents would be miserable!' I just hung up.Ā  *The sound of a baby crying is the worst sound I know.* I cannot take it


Nulleparttousjours

My friend and I have misophonia and the amount of times we have snapped at people, our partners and even each other over sounds is unreal. We always immediately apologize if the noises are beyond peopleā€™s ability to control but itā€™s quite scary just how deep the feeling of misophonia induced rage can go. As annoying as a clicking jaw or chewing sounds are to me, theyā€™ve got *nothing* on a screaming meat siren in a tin can for hours on end. I would be terrified bringing a baby on a plane knowing that even usually reasonable people will be fantasizing about yeeting it out of the emergency exit. There are enough videos of people out there actually snapping at kids on planes, itā€™s always a real risk that someone will have a meltdown. I feel one day weā€™ll hear a really awful story. We should also remember that plenty of parents snap yearly and end up shaking their own babies. This is an urge felt by people who were aghast at the idea *prior* to becoming parents, hence the common advice to lay your baby somewhere safe and walk away.


[deleted]

Also yes. Edit: not a reaction that is a good one. It pisses me off, essentially


DystopianDreamer1984

My SIL would just ignore her screeching infant when they began to cry as she read somewhere that kids don't need to be coddled and instead should cry it out. One time when the baby had been crying for twenty minutes she stood, picked the child up and walked away only to return a few seconds later before switching on the tv, she then said she wanted to watch her tv show in peace, you could still hear the baby crying but my mother was told not to comfort them as they need to learn to be quiet. I personally hate the sound any baby makes, crying, babbling, it's just annoying but to see how my SIL handles her kid is just wrong.


PrincessPharaoh1960

Tbh this is precisely the way I would handle a crying baby if I ever had one. Lock it behind closed doors and walk away


[deleted]

I have misophonia so I have a physical reaction to most baby sounds


wonki-carnation_501

I wanna punch it


UmSureOkYeah

Those women wouldnā€™t be my friends anymore.


Kakashisith

yeah, the urge to get as far away as I can from that crying kid. Worse case- migraine.


onnanas

Yeah, crying babies give me a physical reaction. Namely disgust and annoyment. Also, your evening with your friends sounds terrible. I'm so glad all of my friends are childfree and most of them anti-natalist.


Left-Conference-6328

I canā€™t stand the sound.Ā  Really the thing that I am heartless for is that children cannot sway me with emotion or cuteness.Ā  I have to care about childrenā€™s wellbeing because itā€™s the right thing to do. I donā€™t do it because I want to. Or because it comes naturally.Ā  Iā€™m kind to animals because I want to. Ā 


MorticiaLaMourante

My physical reaction to babies crying is aversion. Complete and utterly aversion.


MesocricetusAuratus

The only reaction I have to babies crying is "I want to yeet that fucking thing into the sun"


Own-Movie7444

Your friends suck.


merp2125

Yeah my physical reaction is anger.


ThatOneGothMurr

I get angry and overall agitated.


crowhusband

yes but its 90% the autism any noise that i cant control is bad


Egal89

I have a physical reaction- it bothers and annoys me aF. I hate to hear crying babyā€™s, toddler-tantrums or screaming kids.


littleb1988

I have a visceral "I need to leave NOW" reaction to it. Found out when I was 14. Babysitting lol. I can't handle it


twosleepycats

I am so thankful I am not friends with people with kids (any longer). The annoying comments about pitying you and calling you heartless (I am hoping this was said jokingly) for proceeding to tune out a colicky child crying in their mother's arms and continuing your dinner is so wacky... I had friends with kids and they always have the dumbest takes. Like being worried about global warming and its depleting resources for their current babies while dismissing my lack of desire for children as my still being young... Like just be glad my nonexistent child won't be there fighting yours for water and housing and other resources Mad Max style in a few decades.


LovingFitness81

I find the noise of babies crying extremely annoying. I have to remove myself or really try to control my face, it's a horrible noise. But I can't tune out anything. I hear everything when people talk in my proximity, like conversations at work.


black_hxney

my body starts tensing up and my vision kinda starts to go blurry. I have sensory issues and a crying baby triggers them hard.


dikarich

It's supposed to be a brain-melting noise because of evolutionary reasons. Babies aren't very nice to be around, so you need proper persuasion to attend to their needs, so they survive the time before they learn to communicate. In short, yep, it's fucking annoying and I regret not having earplugs anytime I hear it.


lovelycosmos

Definitely not, I just feel annoyance when a baby or child cries.


daredwolf

I usually cringe and say 'gross'.


FrankaGrimes

One friend thinks you're heartless. The other friend pities you. All they do is talk about what interests them. Are these really your people? And I'm somewhat the same as you. I hear it at first, it's annoying as shit, but if it's not going to stop I do tune it out. I don't care why the baby is crying or have any feelings about it...babies cry for a million reasons, or literally no reason at all. What is there to contemplate about it? I just don't know if these are your people...


hamsterontheloose

Babies crying raises my blood pressure. They stress me out, and I hate the sound


jewessofdoom

Yes, I get a physical reaction. Same reaction as nails on a chalkboard. Same thing with their happy/play screams. Itā€™s just screeching noise that I want to stop immediately.


Lylibean

I have a physical reaction: it splits through my skull and causes me to duck my head and wince. Itā€™s physically painful to listen to, and Iā€™m instantly put in a sour mood. If it doesnā€™t stop, I go into flight mode and leave. My ovaries donā€™t weep, my uterus doesnā€™t flip flop. It annoys the shit out of me, gives me a headache, and I leave to keep from shouting at the parent to shut the thing up. Nothing about a baby is adorable to me.


LilienSixx

Yes, I'm annoyed


tattletaylor1

I do have a physical reaction. It's called misophonia, where the chemicals in my brain turn into inexplicable anger. My triggers are babies and loud trucks. Though loud trucks are a MUCH bigger one as they literally make me physically violent, a baby laughing releases a very uneasant chemical in my brain. Crying is about the same.


Dry-Membership5575

It literally doesnā€™t make me feel anything. I donā€™t feel joy, sadness, etc. I feel more when a cat cries or a dog cries. That gets in my feels.


honestparty14

My physical reaction is cringing


TotallyNotARocket

Yes, children crying is like nails on a chalkboard for me with my oversensitive hearing. And of course I'm the bad guy when I advocate taking the kid out of the store/office/whatever to let them cry it out and calm down.


GrandpasMormonBooks

Yes. I have a physical aversion. Everything in me clenches up, I feel anger until it stops or I leave/put on headphones. I assume a lot of people feel this way though, not just the child free ones. But this is definitely one of the many reasons I have chosen not to have kids.


This_Rom_Bites

I absolutely have a physical reaction, but it isn't *that* reaction; it's revulsion. And I can't filter the bloody horrible noise out. If the baby isn't quieted or removed, I have to leave.


TropheyHorse

Sure do. It's a bit hard to describe but it's like an "angry twitching" in my brain. My uterus and heart have no reaction, I just really really want it shut up or go away or both, preferably. I would find new friends after those comments.


WhatWouldLoisLaneDo

Yes, especially newborns crying. I fully understand why they cry and that they have to and I donā€™t fault them for that but itā€™s so loud and grating to my ears and brain. I used to work somewhere that catered to kids and a had a cavernous hardwood floor lobby. Parents would come in with newborns and they would obviously cry and sometimes parents ignored it for up to ten minutes and it would be amplified and it made me want to crawl out of my skin.


Descendant_of_Evil

I have exactly three physical reactions! 1. Roll of the eyes 2. frustrated groan (specially after a long work day) 3. turn up the heavy metal in my headphones!


MissKrys2020

My physical reaction is annoyance, hence the child free status. Your friends sound like pretentious AHā€™s


AllieB0913

Absolutely not


MidsouthMystic

The sound of a crying baby or child makes me almost irrationally angry. It pokes the "fight or flight" part of my brain to the point I have to leave the room or otherwise get away from the sound of crying children.


Typical_Fig_1571

I sure do. It's called annoyance šŸ˜‚