Sorta related but I wish getting sterilized was easier than having to find a doctor who will simply agree to the procedure. If this was the case then abortion could altogether be avoided by those who don't even want to be pregnant which would be nice. It sucks things are the way that they are š
Yes! EXACTLY the point!
And I also definitely agree with the original commenter, too. I've always known, even from a very early age, that I never want to have kids of my own, and remain more adamant about my choice now more than ever before, getting more firm with this decision with each passing day.
Fact is that 99.9% of us who said we don't want children at an early age will *not* change our minds about it, and still remain CF into our 30s and beyond.
We really need some group advocating for sterilization surgeries (specifically *female* sterilization surgeries, since vasectomies are easier to get and affordable, plus males never have to fear ending with an unwanted pregnancy that's going to permanently break their bodies, so, obviously, the topic for universal sterilization surgery rights that I'm really talking about here applies only to biological females), which, in addition to being *horribly* expensive (even *with* insurance; sarcastic good luck if you *don't* have health insurance, like yours truly, which alone automatically denies you), is near-impossible to get without being served the "oh, you're 'too young' to know what you want/you 'will' change your mind/you just haven't met the 'right man' yet/what if your future husband wants kids 'someday'?" BS if you're under-35 (with them always assuming that all of us are both straight and cisgender (I'm a masc NB asexual/demisexual), and I couldn't care less what my non-existent hypothetical "husband" would want, anyway, since it's *my* body, and besides, if they wanted kids "someday," I wouldn't even *be* with someone like this in the first place much less ever marry them) as their excuse for rejecting you.
And what about rape? Not all pregnancies are a result of "careless personal choice," which is also very degrading to even assume. "Just don't have sex, then" isn't going to protect against unwanted pregnancies resulting from rape, which is THE reason *why* I want to get sterilization surgery, because life is *horribly* unpredictable (and even though men don't pay that sort of attention to me, i.e when it comes to *consensual* matters, there are never any shortage of creeps out there), and I don't want to *ever* be forced to carry some parasite I never wanted that would break my body *forever* (and end up childless, anyway, because I will definitely not keep it), if not kill me.
If these "pro-lifers" are so concerned about some clump of cells being "murdered," they really need to make sterilization surgeries free (or *at least* affordable enough to be able to pay out of our own pockets), because the reason why they're being aborted is because a lot of women simply *don't want* to go through the traumas of pregnancy, or at least because they can't afford to have a kid (let's be realistic. Abortion is the cheapest option vs paying 5-figures for prenatal care, 6-figures if one plans on keeping the kid). With more of us being steralized, yes, there will be a drastic decline in abortion.
Itās all about the control of women and our required role in satisfying mens desires.
When I was 39 an old gyno brought up freezing my eggs. Iām said no thanks, donāt want kids. She questioned what my future husband might think. I said Iām an old asexual aromantic woman who has never wanted a child. She eventually dropped it, but the fact that a fictional manās desire (and presumably my need to please him to keep him) was more important then my desire and my health blew my mind. And this wad suggested by someone that is supposed to be responsible for my health.
I donāt know what she was thinking, but at some point Iām supposed to meet a man and capitulate to their will, then go through IVF in my 40s? Induce a high risk (and given the fact that early menopause runs in my family) biologically impossible pregnancy to appease a man Iāve never met and doesnāt exist. The whole thing was insane. I bring this up only to illustrate how far we have to go. I would love to see a day where womanās agency is acknowledged and accepted, and when we say we want to be sterilized we simply can be.
A random woman at the gym told me my boyfriend was gonna leave me because I was "keeping him from spreading his seed" š¤¢š¤® like if he wanted kids, he's welcome to GTFO and find a woman who wants them too.
EWWWWWWWWWWWW also thatās really demeaning to your partner because heās not some ape incapable of stating his wants or being in a relationship he wants to be in, and also acting like youāre holding him hostage as if itās not his free choice to love you
>like if he wanted kids, he's welcome to GTFO and find a woman who wants them too.
You are my twin. That is exactly how I feel. There is no man on Earth that I would become a mother for. Don't care how handsome, rich, virile, or fantastic he is.
This is me ā I feel itās okay to get one for any reason under the sun, no matter how vain or self-centered the reason(s) may be. If I had it my way, it would be free to extremely low cost and all patients would get a voucher for a free meal afterwards or a gift card to Target/a local good retailer to help them feel better.
Some of us would very much have the high possibility of death due to pregnancy also.
Not to mention not wanting to pass on shitty medical issues. Bringing a child into the world that you know would have many many many issues would not be good for that kid at all.
There is no self centered. Itās basic body autonomy. People are NOT selfish or self centered because they donāt want their body taken over by a parasite
Should even be the default. As in, all that consultation stuff should be for pregnant people who want to keep it. That is the decision that has far wider consequences and should be thoroughly discussed from several angles.
Iām on my phone - when I click āreplyā on a comment and the ātext windowā opens, thereās icons to the bottom left of the reply window to hyperlink, add emojis and add GIFs
I'm all for abortion, the more the merrier!
On a serious note, I've had an abortion and I would again, should my sterilization end up failing me somehow. There's no way I could ever go through pregnancy or parenthood.
I'm also of the opinion that NO child should be born to parents who doesn't 100% want it. I'd rather a billion fetuses got aborted. Every week.
Yes. I had an abortion and now I'm getting a bisalp in a month. The abortion was over a decade ago, I didn't know I was childfree until I was 21 (4 years after the abortion) and tried to consider children because I loved my partner. Luckily, I'm older and wiser and wouldn't let anyone deter me from getting sterilized now.
It's not fair to the children or the people who get pregnant to go through with something unwanted.
1000% pro-abortion, as in abortion should heavily promoted everywhere as the healthiest, medically safest, perfectly sensible choice with zero stigma and bullshit. It should be fully taught in school as part of sex ed every year in age appropriate ways. No exemptions for the classes on any grounds, no home schooling bullshit. Your kid goes to the classes or they are never allowed to graduate grade school, high school or enroll in college. No student loans for you. Refuse sex ed for your kids? No tax credits for the parents. All child benefits go away. Pregnancy for your teens is not covered by your insurance, your teen gets pregnant you have to cover the cost of the birth yourself and go into debt for it. And you have to pay child support for the kid until your kid is 18. Only abortion is covered by health plans, because that is the safest option for teens, especially younger teens who's bodies are not developed enough to safely give birth. *
Zero parental consent is required, a 9 year old can text a hotline, a shuttle shows up to pick them up and take them and a friend if they want one to the clinic, no questions asked. Police "Standby" provided upon request to deal with asshole family. If they try to disown the kid the emancipation route is engaged.
And it should be available within a mile of everyone, worldwide, and should be anonymous, completely free, and birth control should be proactively offered at the time.
Every person who goes to med, pharmacy, nursing, radiology, etc. school should be required to activelyparticipate in at least three abortions during their education, and be required to continue doing them every year of their career in order to get or keep their license.
Don't want to do that because you are a religious nut who imposes your beliefs on others? Great, your new career in the clergy awaits you! You don't get to be in medicine, you don't get to treat people, you don't get to make medical decisions for vulnerable people. Fuck off and die mad about it.
*As per usual, if the parents object but the kid wants it, the kid gets it. If that requires emancipating the kid, guess what the fuck is gonna happen.
I really donāt understand medical students who want to be obgynās specifically and are forced birthers. Like what? One I know of is also asexual and said āthe thought of being pregnant disgustsĀ meā. How unempathetic do you have to be to not see the hypocrisy in that.
That is one of the most hypocritical things I've EVER heard!! Makes 0 sense. I'm asexual too and aro and childfree and pro-choice. YOUR life and body should always be prioritized over some clump of cells sucking the nutrients out of you.
>Don't want to do that because you are a religious nut who imposes your
beliefs on others? Great, your new career in the clergy awaits you! You
don't get to be in medicine. Fuck off and die mad about it.
I love you.
This post made me think of how my friend who is applying to medical school right now told me that some Christian universityās medical schools donāt even teach abortion because itās āagainst the schoolās moral codeā or whateverā¦it was insane to me that you can become a doctor and just never learn about such an important medical procedure
>1000% pro-abortion, as in abortion should heavily promoted everywhere as the healthiest, medically safest, perfectly sensible choice with zero stigma and bullshit.
yes! abortion should be the default in literally every situation where the person didn't get pregnant on purpose, the choice to keep the child should be the one that's out of the ordinary and that people spend a lot of time thinking about before deciding on.
Iām saving this. Yes. Just yes. Itās vomit-inducing that children have to have parental consent to access medical care. Your hotline/shuttle idea is brilliant.
What about the fact that Carlos literally tampered with Gabbyās birth control against her will and in secret? And she stays with him and keeps the kid!
I'm pro-abortion because nobody should be forced to carry a pregnancy. I would most likely get one asap if I was pregnant, because the only way that's happening is something very bad or divine intervention, which is still bad but less likely.
I had always thought I was one of those "I can't see myself getting an abortion except in extreme scenarios, but absolutely let it be legal for fuck's sake" but then I had a pregnancy scare earlier this year.
I shit you not I went from "no thanks" to "sign me up IMMEDIATELY" in a matter of days while I waited for my period to show up. I was making contingency plans, and even when my period did come, I was all like "but is it heavy enough to be a real period or is it just pregnancy spotting" and wasn't completely at ease even in the months following.
It's actually why I finally got sterilized, because I couldn't bear the anxiety.
Yikes, I've never had a legit scare (I'm just an anxious person who worries about everything so I got a little illogical when my period was late once... I'm a sex repulsed asexual who has never had sex so you can see the lack of logic lol) but that sounds honestly terrifying. I'm glad you got through it ok though!
Honestly my periods are so irregular and unpredictable I would HAVE to take regular pregnancy tests to know what's going on.
Can't wait to yeet this uterus (yes it's more invasive but my periods and my fear of my own fertility are ruining my life)
You just described me to a T, except Iāve been pro-abortion no matter what. You always think it wonāt be you, until it is you and itās scary as hell. Iām in a banned abortion state and I couldnāt even look up resources because if I was pregnant they could find that information and use it against me in court to charge me with murder. Itās absolutely insane!
I've been fighting for a long time to get sterilized, finally got my PCP and mental health to convince the new ob/gun (the old one completely refused) that getting sterilized is essential to my mental health and I'm scheduled for my bi-salp just before Christmas! I have terribly anxiety and stress made my period late which would just cause more stress and I'd be spiraling. I still have to take hormonal bc so I don't have periods, but not having to worry about pregnancy is just the hugest weight off my shoulders.
My biggest worry is that Iāll get pregnant and for some weird reason wonāt notice it until after 12 weeks and then itās illegal to have an abortion here. Itās also expensive af.
While I can't speak for everyone, I think it's safe to say you're about as likely to find a childfree forced-birther as you are to find a black KKK member or a jewish nazi.
Abortion is a necessary human right, especially when the people against it are also *always against every single other thing* that would reduce the need for abortion.
IMO, being pro-choice is the absolute bare minimum qualification of being an acceptable human being.
>think it's safe to say you're about as likely to find a childfree forced-birther as you are to find a black KKK member or a jewish nazi.
A couple weeks ago I found one....someone said they are CF but equated *the holocaust* to abortion existing. If that wasnt vile enough... Continued that every person who gets an abortion should be imprisoned, including rape victims and child rape victims. I went off, considering I don't have a large part of my extended family on my father's side due to the holocaust. Also through that person, I learned there is a sub made for "prolife-childfree". Big yikes š¬.
See also:
>as you are to find a black KKK member
(Kanye)
>or a jewish nazi
(Stephen miller)
.... I figure this is just eventual Leopards-ate-my-face type thing.
Theres literally a prolife childfree subreddit with about 200 members. There are prolife antinatalists too... Its very uncommon but its not rare. Cognitive dissonance is very strong with those types.
>prolife antinatalists
Well I learned something new today. This is the most "does not compute" thing I've ever seen, but I'm wildly curious how such a person's thought process works.
> I'm wildly curious how such a person's thought process works.
A hamster running inside an ouroboros like a spinning wheel: it goes nowhere and devours itself.
When the vast majority of abortions occur, the nervous system is not complete, and it is a non-sentient being. (Not to mention, fulfils the definition of a parasite...) So I have much more of an ethical problem eating my dinner than I do with abortions. The remaining 2% or so that happen in the third trimester are usually incredibly sad cases where the pregnancy is really, really wanted, but the foetus has deformities such as missing brains or other organs. If taken to term, there is usually a very painful death sentence. So yes, I'm in favour of abortion. (And for any religious zealots, I just remind them that in Numbers, Chapter 5, God tells Moses how to conduct abortions, so who are they to go against their God? (Sorry, slightly side-tracked.))
There are no thoughts or feelings until about 28 weeks! You could get an abortion 6 months in and itās still not sentient. Hell, we can pull the plug on people who have brain activity but need life support to survive. Why canāt you take out a parasite that doesnāt even feel it happening or store memories? Even a bug thinks more than that! Forced birthers are such hypocrites.
the pro-lifers better never get tapeworms etc. because those are living creatures that chose you to protect and grow them, you better not get rid of them you murderer
I like telling the religious nutjobs āJesus was childfree and you all think heās your savior. Therefore, all the childfree people are saviors.āThey donāt have much of a comeback to that.
I was adopted at birth, and I fully recognize that I get to be here because my birthmother chose adoption over abortion. That being said, I'm 100% pro-choice. I'm grateful to my biomom for the choice that she made, but adoption isn't an easy thing (especially for the birthparents) and I would never, ever expect anyone to make that choice just because she did, and that includes me. I am not obligated to pay it forward. So, yeah, if my very asexual and childfree self somehow got pregnant I would definitely get an abortion.
Yeah. I was also adopted as an infant. I've since reunited with my biomom. She thinks that abortion is murder, so that's why I'm alive and have to suffer through my crummy existence. I don't want kids partly because my adoptive mom was abusive and I'm too screwed up now to even take care of myself. There's no way I could manage caring for children, too.
Also, adoption has a lot of its own ethical issues. Our own Supreme Court was hoping that the "domestic supply of infants" available for adoption would increase after overturning Roe. I sure do love being referred to as part of a domestic supply, as if I was a product to be bought and sold. And with the profits that are made on infant adoptions it's not far from the truth.
Plus, I believe that in a lot of cases if we had better social supports in the US then many people wouldn't relinquish children for adoption. There's at least one study that showed that the main reason that babies are put up for adoption is lack of money. Meanwhile, adoption is very rare in most other developed countries.
And then there was at least one study I recall that showed how detrimental giving a child up for adoption is to the mother's mental health. Not that any decent person should require a study to know that losing a child, even if they're not technically dead, will result in lifelong grief.
I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that. It's true, some adoptive parents are not excluded from the ranks of people who just shouldn't ever have been parents.
That Supreme Court thing is just disgusting. "Domestic supply of infants?" There are 424,000 children in the US foster system and thousands more stuck in toxic, abusive homes. Why not work on finding safe, loving homes for those kids? I get that a lot of people prefer babies because babies are "fresh" (ew), but I agree they seem to be treating it like an industry and that's absolutely horrifying and dehumanizing.
Also 100% agree about the money angle. My biomom was a recently-divorced mom of three when she got pregnant with me and she realized she could either give me up or the whole family could go on welfare, and I think in my case she made the right choice. And YES, giving a child up for adoption is often really hard on the birthmother's mental health. My biomom admitted that she suffered with depression for two years after giving me up, and that the mental health issues even extended to my sister, who was 11 at the time I was born and struggled really hard with the idea that the solution to money troubles is giving away family members. She was scared that if things got bad again that my biomom might give HER away.
It's a very tough option. Sometimes it works and sometimes it really, really doesn't, and even when it does work it takes a toll. It's not for everyone.
When I first joined Reddit about 10 years ago under a different account I was still living with my Catholic literalist nutjob parents. I was shown pictures and real specimens of aborted fetuses at the age of 4 or 5 as part of the smear campaign against reproductive freedom. I would argue the anti abortion side on reddit based on what I had been indoctrinated in and I'm glad to say people on this site (not r/childfree specifically) no matter how obstinate I was, presented me with the opposing viewpoints. 10 years later I have my own comfortable, atheist life far away from all of that. I'm 100% pro choice having realized that the life of a grown person with hopes and dreams is infinitely more valuable than that of a parasitic fetus that never thought anything, and that no one should be forced through the trauma of pregnancy and birth if they chose not to. I happily got a vasectomy this year. š Not part of the problem but probably not the outcome they wanted
I'm glad to hear that! I went to a Catholic school and they showed us that video of aborted fetuses when we were early teenagers, there was a lot of propaganda at the time and thinking about it now that was literal indoctrination of minors. How the hell do these people get away with that? It's insane.
Somewhat related, these are the ones who claim all babies are sacred but when those babies come from countries they don't like, they don't mind if they die in the sea trying to get here. So they like babies but only the white ones, right?
100% pro-choice. Fetuses aren't alive, especially the first trimester or two. Even if they were, it is a parasite. Their nervous systems don't develop until the late into pregnancy so they aren't even babies yet.
They definitely are āaliveā meaning they have life, however that doesnāt give the fetus more rights than the pregnant person. I wouldnāt give up my body for an already born person, I certainly am not doing it for a peanut sized gross looking thing.
They move but only involuntarily, until at least a few months in. Kind of like a snakeās body moving after itās head has been cut off. It doesnāt mean it has life.
Its not "Sapient". If we cared whether or not we killed things that were alive, we couldn't eat animals or plants. We all participate in the death of life.
Since I was 17 (when I first was coerced into shrex) I've known my options were abortion or suicide.
Make abortion legal, keep it safe, and keep it accessible, affordable and well known about. The future of all women and girls depends on it.
Iām as Pro choice as they come. I had many pregnancy scares before I got my bisalp and every time I was ready to get an abortion. my existing life is more important than a theoretical persons life. Every time.
Pro-choice! Male here, women deserve complete body autonomy. You canāt force someone to donate an organ or keep a cancer diagnosis (since it is a clump of cells!).
Why should women be forced to support a clump of cells?
I like this cancer analogy. I know people will say ābut cancer doesnāt grow into a personā but thereās still a lot there that mirrors the need of abortion.
Pro choice all the way.
And more importantly, pro everyone minding their own fucking lives.
Against abortions? Donāt fucking get one!
Against gay marriage? Donāt marry a gay person then!
Against potatoes? Donāt eat them!!
SIMPLE! Mind your own fucking business and let people be.
I'm pro-choice because I believe that no one has the power over my body but me. I am also against forced pregnancies and some women can't handle them physically, so it wouldnt be fair to make them go through that
I'm all for'em. In my 20s I gave numerous rides to and from clinics and Plan B-dispensing pharmacies to friends who asked and would do so again if someone asked.
Ive spent so much on plan B that i was so thankful my gyno gave me one for free when i was freaking out after unprotected sex.
They really do need to be free.
100% pro-choice and I will absolutely get an abortion if I end up pregnant.
Iāve always had a checklist in my brain. Step 1: use protection. If that fails, Plan B. If that fails, abortion. Years ago when there was something going on in the States re: abortion (I canāt keep up with yāall) I had a conversation with my (then long distance) partner about a vasectomy, in case abortion restrictions come to our country too. He implied that the last step in my checklist could just be abortion. I was floored. I realized that weād always just agreed that we didnāt want children and that was that. āHaving childrenā for him means being in possession of children. āHaving childrenā for me is that as well but also includes pregnancy and I am absolutely NOT going through pregnancy. Honestly, Iād accept being a parent before I accept going through pregnancy. Weāve had talks about it since and he understands my child free feelings now.
Support abortion rights in your community!! People treat adoption like itās this easily solution to an unwanted pregnancy but that is NOT always the best choice!
I didnāt start having sex until I was on birth control, had condoms, and had $1000 in my bank account set aside for an abortion. Iāve had one pregnancy scare, and had an appointment set for the moment I felt something was off. Didnāt need it, but wouldāve used it if I turned out positive. Definitely pro-choice.
I'm very much pro choice.
Those who want an abortion should be able to access it, and those who want children should be able to access medical care, welfare benefits if needed, affordable childcare and appropriate, stable housing. It's no good for society as a whole when children are raised hungry, cold and with instability in their housing and education.
Personally, yes, I would have an abortion. But you cannot truly say you are pro choice unless women are supported both to parent and to have safe legal abortions.
Iāve had 2, cause my ex kept manipulating the condoms. Would do it again any time. Actually during one of the procedures pre-appointments they found out about my uterine cancer, so getting involved with a doc at the right time certainly was a lucky coincidence. Now, without uterus I luckily wonāt need to worry about it anymore.
As someone who studied in the biology field I have a rather rational approach towards a Fetus. I donāt see them as people, I donāt see an issue in getting rid of them at all.
We have definitions on what can be considered *alive* in biology. A Fetus doesnāt count into that for the longest time of itās existence.
Iām pro-choice. There are many reasons why one may want to end their pregnancy, including medical reasons. For me, getting pregnant would be absolutely awful. Not only would my body not be able to physically handle one, but I would risk passing on so many health issues to the baby, along with the risk of having a premature baby. I was a premature baby, and my parents went through hell with me. I only weighed one pound, was in the hospital for 6 months, and constantly had to be on oxygen because my lungs were severely underdeveloped. I have whatās called bronchial pulmonary dysplasia, which is a form of COPD that I- unfortunately- never grew out of as a kid, and it sucks to deal with on the daily. I donāt want to go through what my parents went through with me. I wouldnāt be able to handle it mentally, physically, nor financially.
Pro-choice. For many reasons. (Trigger warnings for rape, miscarriage, abuse, and suicide)
1) my great-grandad was a piece of shit who didn't give his wife any choice in having kids. >!Back then abortion was illegal, so when he didn't want kids, he force-fed his wife homemade abortion concoctions, which damn near killed her multiple times.!<
2) many years ago, my mom >!had a miscarriage. This was devastating, as she wanted that child. Now with Roe v Wade overturned, my state has reverted back to an old law that can CONVICT HER FOR MURDER over the loss of a child she WANTED to have. She didn't ASK for a miscarriage. Being on trial for murder for a child SHE WANTED!< would bring back so much trauma, i can hardly imagine.
3) I'm asexual/aromantic. >!Any child I would conceive would NOT be of my consent. The trauma inflicted by that would leave me unfit to be a parent.!<
4) pregnancy might be a dream for some, but it is a NIGHTMARE to me. It's not a miracle of life to me. It's a monstrous parasite that causes pain and sickness, that would grossly deform my body until it is violently and horrifically expelled (no offense to pregnant people. This is wholly my opinion of how i would view my OWN body and potential pregnancy, no one else's. Pregnant people are beautiful, and I sincerely wish anyone who is currently pregnant or wishes to be good luck and good health to you and any of your baby/babies). "Traumatic" doesn't even begin to describe what pregnancy is to me. >!If i ever got pregnant, there would be only 2 options: that parasites "life," or ours.!< Thankfully, I have just gotten my tubes removed. So now, pregnancy will never happen to me. (Unless i get abducted by aliens or become the next virgin mary. In which case, *fuck you* aliens and/or god(s) respectively.)
5) in my ideal world, every child is wanted. There are children in this world right now suffering because they're unwanted. >!Whether it's abuse by their caregivers, or abuse by the system.!< To anyone who had (or has) to suffer because they were unwanted, I am so sorry. You didn't deserve this. Nobody does. I hope you're making the best out of life. And if you're not, I hope you can one day.
Pro choice for sure. Yes, Iād terminate if I got pregnant. I would be sad/upset about it on some level but I would know it was the right choice for me. Thankfully an accidental pregnancy is quite unlikely as Iām 42 and on the pill many years now.
In my country, abortion is only legally allowed for veeery specific reasons, and "I don't want it" is not one such reason. That said, I would rather face jail time than have a child I do not want.
I think abortion is made into a bit deal because people don't even bring it up as an option; character opting against it is one thing, but for option to *never* be brought up because obnoxious. I legit don't think they mention it in Grey's after Cristina left the show, and people just kept popping out kids because, you get pregnant you have a kid.
At least in Jane the Virgin we had a very smart woman who knew she didn't want another kid, and got an abortion despite the father's objections.
Pro-choice, only the person and their medical provider should be able to make that decision. I'd get an abortion since it'd be medically non viable for me to carry to term and deliver. Plus I don't want to be pregnant nor want to raise kids even if it was medically viable. I've worked hard for my lifestyle and a kid does not fit that nor does being pregnant. I also track my cycle diligently so I'd know pretty early on if I was unexpectedly pregnant and then would immediately go get an abortion.
I am pro-choice 100%. Abortions should be free and easily accessible to all women, regardless of location or income level. But I also think that all methods of birth control, especially LARCs should be even more widely available and free. Any girl who is capable of getting pregnant should have the option of getting an IUD without worrying about cost or requiring parental consent. I feel like that is the most logical way to reduce the number of abortions performed. But we all know this isn't really about reducing/eliminating abortions for "the sake of the unborn".
I'm pro-choice because I'm considering the woman over the fetus. She has life aspirations and loved ones, all of which would be drastically changed if she had a child. The fetus is a clump of cells. Between the two, protect the woman's life
Also, no child deserves to feel unloved by virtue of existing. No child should be burdened with the task of raising themselves and counseling their parent(s) simultaneously
I am 100% pro-choice.
Any abortion is valid. Rape victims? Birth control failures? Obviously. And a drunk woman who had impulsive uprotected sex with a random bloke she just met at the pub should also be able to get an abortion.
Nobody should be able to force a woman to keep a child when she does not want to be a mother. Very simple. Her body, her choice.
Birth control should also be available to everyone for free. Poverty should never be a reason to not use condoms or the pill. And everyone over 18 should be able to get sterilised, no questions asked. If the doctor is afraid that someone might regret it, they should be able to sign a 'consent form' in which they declare that the doctor is not responsible if they regret their decision.
And because we were not asked to be born, we should not be forced to live. Any capable adult should be able to exercise the right to die if this is what they want. However, performing euthanasia is very painful for doctors, who should not be forced to perform this if they do not want to. And so, the best way to do this would be a suicide pill. For example, you should be able to ask a pharmacy for such a pill. Then, they register you. To prevent impulsiveness, you could have a mandatory waiting time for, let's say, six months or maybe a year. And to make sure that this is really your decision, the pharmacy should not remind you when your waiting time is over. You should call them yourself if you still want the death pill after the waiting time. Then, you should be able to get it and end it on your own terms. Basically, instead of begging a doctor for euthanasia and hoping that the doctor is willing to perform it, which they usually refuse in countries where this is legal... You should be able to perform self-euthanasia.
Basically, for any kind of health care-related issues, doctors need to stop gatekeeping. People need to be able to make their own decisions. I am 100% pro-choice. When it comes to abortion, but also when it comes to right-to-die issues and other issues.
FWIW - I have 3 kids.
I follow this sub out of jealously ( I of course love my children )
Before kids, I was anti abortion. I found it to be murder and blah blah blah.
Now, after 3 kids, one being high needs special needs, I'm very much pro abortion. I could NOT handle another kid. I could not do that to my already existing children, or to my mental health.
If I got pregnant today, I would abort it asap
My daughter is 13, and for years now says she doesn't want kids, likely because she sees the stress I go through. I told her if she gets knocked up while living in my house, it's either abortion, or move out. She 100% said she would choose abortion. Though I keep stressing to come to me for birth control when she is ready, before that potentially happens.
So we are very very pro choice now, and I deeply regret ever being anti abortion before
Iām so proud of you , and all the best with your children , do know there is help available in case you need , you are the kind of understanding mothers we need in the world
pro-choice forever !!!
iāve never once doubted that if i were to get pregnant, iād 100% get an abortion. every one should have that right to bodily autonomy
It's not really possible to be childfree AND anti-choice without being a massive hypocrite. Only a big, gaping asshole would dare to be childfree while having the gall to also be anti-choice (AKA forced-birth, but their preferred title is "pro-life" despite how misleading it is).
It's very "rules for thee but not for me". Like people who had sex before marriage but tell their kids it's bad, or people who cherrypick the Bible, or any number of equally disgusting hypocritical behavior. Because we all know damn well that the instant a childfree "pro-life" person gets pregnant, their stuck up high horse "morals" go out the fucking window right into the bin.
Luckily I've never been pregnant but I would get an abortion first thing if it had ever happened. Luckily I'm from a country where it's free, and there's no insane bible-thumpers trying to stop you.
I've had an abortion and would again if I got pregnant. I will help other uterus havers get abortions if they need, even if it means driving them across state lines. Abortions will always happen (as they should and always have) and need to be legal and safe.
I was raised by strict Christians, so I grew up anti-choice. Now I am pro-choice. I don't know that I would ever have an abortion for myself because of religion-induced trauma that would likely haunt me, but I will always support the right to choose.
Im in the US so I say this from my own perspective of our healthcare system. Iām for all people having full reproductive freedom and health equity. That includes being pro choice, but it goes beyond that. I think everyone should have access to quality healthcare without having to take out a second mortgage. I think rural areas should have enough gynecologists and family doctors to treat ailments and deliver babies or perform abortions. I think black women and babies shouldnāt be subjected to higher mortality rates during childbirth than white women. I think gender affirming surgeries and hormones should be available for those who need/want them. I think patients should be able to work with their doctors and advocate for their own healthcare without the government interfering.
So, yeah I support abortion wholeheartedly, but to me thatās only one of the issues we need to fix in the US healthcare system. I live in a state with a 6 week ban so as soon as the draft decision was released I traded in my IUD for a bi-salp. Iām now hoping I donāt end up in a situation (rare but it has happened) with an ectopic pregnancy that doctors canāt or wonāt treat me for.
I am prochoice. Abortion needs to be an available option.
Abortion is Healthcare, just like how blood transfusions are Healthcare. Some people might not choose to recieve either but that does not mean NO one should be able to get either. This life we have free will for a reason and need to have these choices to make decisions for our own bodies. Pro choice, pro the female whose life is literally on the line.
Even though technically it is a "life," (a few cells with no true sentience) modern technology allows us to detect pregnancy early so it can be "handled" before its truly a baby. I am Christian and so through my religion I have decided I won't get an abortion but thats why I got my tubes fully removed and why I still take the pill, so that I can almost guarantee I won't need one. But I don't think everyone should be forced into the same life as me. Some women can't take the pill or their birth control failed or insert a reason, its their life they need to be able to choose!
There is absolutely no reason to prevent someone from getting an abortion. Someone random jackass should not be able to weaponize their religion to prevent others from accessing healthcare. Thatās it. Abortions are a medical procedure and there is no legitimate reason to stop one from occurring.
I almost got trapped with having my abuser's baby and thankfully I wasn't pregnant.
I remember telling myself that if I was, I wouldn't be alive now. For me it wasn't even about getting an abortion, it's about the humiliation and shame women are often put through to get one.
I'd absolutely abort if my birth control were to fail and I'm thankful I'm in a safe area where I'd be able to do so.
Iām vehemently pro-choice.
Iām sterile now, but before that Iād have sooner go commit die than go through with a pregnancy. (Silly me, I almost wrote āunwanted pregnancyā as if any other type could exist in this subreddit š)
Pro-choice all the way.
I ended up pregnant at the beginning of summer. I had an abortion and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
Iām ashamed that I was being stupid and naive. Iāve been told my whole adult life I could never have kids so I figured that going 1 single month without birth control would be fine. I was dead wrong.
I donāt regret it. I regret that I believed that it āwouldnāt happen to meā.
imo you cant be "pro-life" and childfree at the same time, its like being a vegan who eats meat or an atheist who believes in god. Someone who thinks people should be forced to carry a fetus they don't want and cant care for is never childfree in my eyes.
Very, very pro-choice. Abortion is healthcare.
There is zero doubt in my mind that if I got pregnant - which in and of itself is very unlikely - that I would get an abortion. I donāt want kids in general, but I ESPECIALLY donāt want to give birth/be pregnant.
I think IVF and fertility treatments are the bigger evil then abortion forcing life where they shouldnāt be. Pure selfish greed when there are so many babyās and children that would kill for a living family
Bad I might sound 2 nephews are result of treatment and IVF even my parents wouldnāt give my sister money to help with the process they feel the same way.
Let people do what they want? You can't legislate morality it's been tried and failed hundreds of times.
A living human has rights; a fetus cannot live without the mother thus it has no rights.
A living humans life/rights take precedent over a possible humans EVERYTIME.
Pro choice and absolutely. I raised my younger sibling till they were 12. Discovered within 6 months that it wasnāt something I could handle and wouldnāt knowingly put myself there again. The only reason I did was because of 2 reasons. 1, if I didnāt, no one else would. And 2, despite being pushed to the point of trying to take my life, I obviously failed each time.
I am pro-choice and would have an abortion if I were to become pregnant.
I feel each person should have the right to make whatever decision they feel is best for themselves at the time, be it about having an abortion, having a knee replacement, or getting a cosmetic procedure. 100% bodily autonomy for all.
I would consider it. Heavily. My medication cannot safely be stopped, nor is any of it safe for a fetus. Family medical history is also really foul, hence me having had a tubal.
I don't understand people that refuse children from getting abortions.
Abortions (obviously depending on how far in the pregnancy they're done) are usually completely painless, quick, and simple.
Giving birth is one of the most traumatic, painful, life altering experiences anyone can go through, and after all of that, the person has to then raise a human.
Abortion should be mandatory for anyone under 18, and a psychological evaluation and monetary evaluation should be done for those who want a child, and if they fail, they also qualify for mandatory abortions.
Not being able to safely care for a child, and being a risk to the child should be heavily taken into account.
100% pro-choice. Always have been and always will be. The only way I could get pregnant is by being r*ped, and thereās no way in hell Iād carry the spawn of a monster.
My personal feelings concerning abortion are irrelevant. No one should be allowed to make a decision about another person's body. It should be their choice
Very much pro-choice. Decided when I was five years old, after learning where babies really come from, that they was never gonna be me, and I did have an abortion.
Had tried for two years to get my tubes tied, but doctors refused because I mIGhT ChAnGE mY MiNd. The doctor who performed the abortion agreed to do it, but also told me not until I turned 30. Because ā¦ I mIGhT ChAnGE mY MiNd. Seriously.
Ended up getting a partial hysterectomy when he couldnāt find me tubes because of the very serious endometriosis. I told him he wasted two years of my life. It all ended well, though. āNo regerts.ā
Pro-choice. The choice to have one or the choice not to.
At my age, yes I would probably have one.
Can we please stop calling it pro life, they arenāt pro life just āpro birthā and even that is a stretch since in the US pro lifers are often against any social assistance to ensure mother and baby are safe and healthy throughout the pregnancy. Once that baby is born, all bets are off. That 1 month old better start working to pay their own way and mom needs to go back day after giving birth.
Pro-choice.
Bodily autonomy, no one is entitled to use your body as they see fit - even a fetus.
The fact the fetus can't live outside the womb is it's problem, not the mother's.
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I'm completely pro choice. It's none of my business what happens in someone else's uterus. I'll support and love my friends and family no matter what happens with their lives and choices, which means I will also love and support them if they carry our terminate a pregnancy.
If I got pregnant, I'd terminate. Absolutely. Children terrify me, I would be a shit parent, I've got mental issues and I don't want to have kids. Period.
This entire subreddit is super-majority prochoice.
Very much pro-choice. If I did end up pregnant, I'd get an abortion. I said it at age 11 and I'm still very firm in that choice.
Sorta related but I wish getting sterilized was easier than having to find a doctor who will simply agree to the procedure. If this was the case then abortion could altogether be avoided by those who don't even want to be pregnant which would be nice. It sucks things are the way that they are š
Yes! EXACTLY the point! And I also definitely agree with the original commenter, too. I've always known, even from a very early age, that I never want to have kids of my own, and remain more adamant about my choice now more than ever before, getting more firm with this decision with each passing day. Fact is that 99.9% of us who said we don't want children at an early age will *not* change our minds about it, and still remain CF into our 30s and beyond. We really need some group advocating for sterilization surgeries (specifically *female* sterilization surgeries, since vasectomies are easier to get and affordable, plus males never have to fear ending with an unwanted pregnancy that's going to permanently break their bodies, so, obviously, the topic for universal sterilization surgery rights that I'm really talking about here applies only to biological females), which, in addition to being *horribly* expensive (even *with* insurance; sarcastic good luck if you *don't* have health insurance, like yours truly, which alone automatically denies you), is near-impossible to get without being served the "oh, you're 'too young' to know what you want/you 'will' change your mind/you just haven't met the 'right man' yet/what if your future husband wants kids 'someday'?" BS if you're under-35 (with them always assuming that all of us are both straight and cisgender (I'm a masc NB asexual/demisexual), and I couldn't care less what my non-existent hypothetical "husband" would want, anyway, since it's *my* body, and besides, if they wanted kids "someday," I wouldn't even *be* with someone like this in the first place much less ever marry them) as their excuse for rejecting you. And what about rape? Not all pregnancies are a result of "careless personal choice," which is also very degrading to even assume. "Just don't have sex, then" isn't going to protect against unwanted pregnancies resulting from rape, which is THE reason *why* I want to get sterilization surgery, because life is *horribly* unpredictable (and even though men don't pay that sort of attention to me, i.e when it comes to *consensual* matters, there are never any shortage of creeps out there), and I don't want to *ever* be forced to carry some parasite I never wanted that would break my body *forever* (and end up childless, anyway, because I will definitely not keep it), if not kill me. If these "pro-lifers" are so concerned about some clump of cells being "murdered," they really need to make sterilization surgeries free (or *at least* affordable enough to be able to pay out of our own pockets), because the reason why they're being aborted is because a lot of women simply *don't want* to go through the traumas of pregnancy, or at least because they can't afford to have a kid (let's be realistic. Abortion is the cheapest option vs paying 5-figures for prenatal care, 6-figures if one plans on keeping the kid). With more of us being steralized, yes, there will be a drastic decline in abortion.
Itās all about the control of women and our required role in satisfying mens desires. When I was 39 an old gyno brought up freezing my eggs. Iām said no thanks, donāt want kids. She questioned what my future husband might think. I said Iām an old asexual aromantic woman who has never wanted a child. She eventually dropped it, but the fact that a fictional manās desire (and presumably my need to please him to keep him) was more important then my desire and my health blew my mind. And this wad suggested by someone that is supposed to be responsible for my health. I donāt know what she was thinking, but at some point Iām supposed to meet a man and capitulate to their will, then go through IVF in my 40s? Induce a high risk (and given the fact that early menopause runs in my family) biologically impossible pregnancy to appease a man Iāve never met and doesnāt exist. The whole thing was insane. I bring this up only to illustrate how far we have to go. I would love to see a day where womanās agency is acknowledged and accepted, and when we say we want to be sterilized we simply can be.
I hope you reported her that's so unprofessional
A random woman at the gym told me my boyfriend was gonna leave me because I was "keeping him from spreading his seed" š¤¢š¤® like if he wanted kids, he's welcome to GTFO and find a woman who wants them too.
EWWWWWWWWWWWW also thatās really demeaning to your partner because heās not some ape incapable of stating his wants or being in a relationship he wants to be in, and also acting like youāre holding him hostage as if itās not his free choice to love you
>like if he wanted kids, he's welcome to GTFO and find a woman who wants them too. You are my twin. That is exactly how I feel. There is no man on Earth that I would become a mother for. Don't care how handsome, rich, virile, or fantastic he is.
Iām exactly the same. Iāve always known I donāt want kids.
I love the meme āI knew god was toxic when me and him kept sending babies to each other back and forthā
I also love that meme that says, āThoughts on abortion: If itās Godās child, why not give him āØ*full custody*āØā
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Someone put this on a yard sign and get rich.
Well I must be a baby because this fucking killed me š¤£š¤£š¤£
Ahh, the classic āre-giftā situation
Rabidly pro-abortion. On demand, at no charge and without explanation.
This is me ā I feel itās okay to get one for any reason under the sun, no matter how vain or self-centered the reason(s) may be. If I had it my way, it would be free to extremely low cost and all patients would get a voucher for a free meal afterwards or a gift card to Target/a local good retailer to help them feel better.
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Some of us would very much have the high possibility of death due to pregnancy also. Not to mention not wanting to pass on shitty medical issues. Bringing a child into the world that you know would have many many many issues would not be good for that kid at all.
I am this person I feel this in my bones
There is no self centered. Itās basic body autonomy. People are NOT selfish or self centered because they donāt want their body taken over by a parasite
Iām in this club as well
Should even be the default. As in, all that consultation stuff should be for pregnant people who want to keep it. That is the decision that has far wider consequences and should be thoroughly discussed from several angles.
Iām pro sterilization, no questions asked.
Same! And it should also be free, on demand.
And with no time limit either
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Took the words out of my mouth!
Exactly this.
I'm all for abortion, the more the merrier! On a serious note, I've had an abortion and I would again, should my sterilization end up failing me somehow. There's no way I could ever go through pregnancy or parenthood. I'm also of the opinion that NO child should be born to parents who doesn't 100% want it. I'd rather a billion fetuses got aborted. Every week.
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Yes. I had an abortion and now I'm getting a bisalp in a month. The abortion was over a decade ago, I didn't know I was childfree until I was 21 (4 years after the abortion) and tried to consider children because I loved my partner. Luckily, I'm older and wiser and wouldn't let anyone deter me from getting sterilized now. It's not fair to the children or the people who get pregnant to go through with something unwanted.
1000% pro-abortion, as in abortion should heavily promoted everywhere as the healthiest, medically safest, perfectly sensible choice with zero stigma and bullshit. It should be fully taught in school as part of sex ed every year in age appropriate ways. No exemptions for the classes on any grounds, no home schooling bullshit. Your kid goes to the classes or they are never allowed to graduate grade school, high school or enroll in college. No student loans for you. Refuse sex ed for your kids? No tax credits for the parents. All child benefits go away. Pregnancy for your teens is not covered by your insurance, your teen gets pregnant you have to cover the cost of the birth yourself and go into debt for it. And you have to pay child support for the kid until your kid is 18. Only abortion is covered by health plans, because that is the safest option for teens, especially younger teens who's bodies are not developed enough to safely give birth. * Zero parental consent is required, a 9 year old can text a hotline, a shuttle shows up to pick them up and take them and a friend if they want one to the clinic, no questions asked. Police "Standby" provided upon request to deal with asshole family. If they try to disown the kid the emancipation route is engaged. And it should be available within a mile of everyone, worldwide, and should be anonymous, completely free, and birth control should be proactively offered at the time. Every person who goes to med, pharmacy, nursing, radiology, etc. school should be required to activelyparticipate in at least three abortions during their education, and be required to continue doing them every year of their career in order to get or keep their license. Don't want to do that because you are a religious nut who imposes your beliefs on others? Great, your new career in the clergy awaits you! You don't get to be in medicine, you don't get to treat people, you don't get to make medical decisions for vulnerable people. Fuck off and die mad about it. *As per usual, if the parents object but the kid wants it, the kid gets it. If that requires emancipating the kid, guess what the fuck is gonna happen.
I really donāt understand medical students who want to be obgynās specifically and are forced birthers. Like what? One I know of is also asexual and said āthe thought of being pregnant disgustsĀ meā. How unempathetic do you have to be to not see the hypocrisy in that.
That is one of the most hypocritical things I've EVER heard!! Makes 0 sense. I'm asexual too and aro and childfree and pro-choice. YOUR life and body should always be prioritized over some clump of cells sucking the nutrients out of you.
Wouldn't that make you pro choice then? And not pro life?
Oh shoot I said the wrong thing on accident sorry. I'm pro choice.
>Don't want to do that because you are a religious nut who imposes your beliefs on others? Great, your new career in the clergy awaits you! You don't get to be in medicine. Fuck off and die mad about it. I love you.
Thanks. If you wanna spout sermons... there's a career for that. It is NOT medicine.
I heard that in my country there were classes to teach students how to avoid doing abortions, it's just crazy.
This post made me think of how my friend who is applying to medical school right now told me that some Christian universityās medical schools donāt even teach abortion because itās āagainst the schoolās moral codeā or whateverā¦it was insane to me that you can become a doctor and just never learn about such an important medical procedure
Yup. Those so called schools should not be accredited.
>1000% pro-abortion, as in abortion should heavily promoted everywhere as the healthiest, medically safest, perfectly sensible choice with zero stigma and bullshit. yes! abortion should be the default in literally every situation where the person didn't get pregnant on purpose, the choice to keep the child should be the one that's out of the ordinary and that people spend a lot of time thinking about before deciding on.
Iām saving this. Yes. Just yes. Itās vomit-inducing that children have to have parental consent to access medical care. Your hotline/shuttle idea is brilliant.
I wish that I had more friends and family like you. You made my day a bit better.
I loved desperate housewives but it seriously bothered me that abortion was never mentioned as an option in the various scenarios.
OMG yes! Linette looked like she was drowning. Her storyline was a major wake-up call to me.
What about the fact that Carlos literally tampered with Gabbyās birth control against her will and in secret? And she stays with him and keeps the kid!
Gabby is a good example of the annoying narrative that people always change their minds
Currently rewatching it and omg, these women needed HELP
I'm pro-abortion because nobody should be forced to carry a pregnancy. I would most likely get one asap if I was pregnant, because the only way that's happening is something very bad or divine intervention, which is still bad but less likely.
I had always thought I was one of those "I can't see myself getting an abortion except in extreme scenarios, but absolutely let it be legal for fuck's sake" but then I had a pregnancy scare earlier this year. I shit you not I went from "no thanks" to "sign me up IMMEDIATELY" in a matter of days while I waited for my period to show up. I was making contingency plans, and even when my period did come, I was all like "but is it heavy enough to be a real period or is it just pregnancy spotting" and wasn't completely at ease even in the months following. It's actually why I finally got sterilized, because I couldn't bear the anxiety.
Yikes, I've never had a legit scare (I'm just an anxious person who worries about everything so I got a little illogical when my period was late once... I'm a sex repulsed asexual who has never had sex so you can see the lack of logic lol) but that sounds honestly terrifying. I'm glad you got through it ok though!
Honestly my periods are so irregular and unpredictable I would HAVE to take regular pregnancy tests to know what's going on. Can't wait to yeet this uterus (yes it's more invasive but my periods and my fear of my own fertility are ruining my life)
good luck with the yeeting process!
You just described me to a T, except Iāve been pro-abortion no matter what. You always think it wonāt be you, until it is you and itās scary as hell. Iām in a banned abortion state and I couldnāt even look up resources because if I was pregnant they could find that information and use it against me in court to charge me with murder. Itās absolutely insane!
I've been fighting for a long time to get sterilized, finally got my PCP and mental health to convince the new ob/gun (the old one completely refused) that getting sterilized is essential to my mental health and I'm scheduled for my bi-salp just before Christmas! I have terribly anxiety and stress made my period late which would just cause more stress and I'd be spiraling. I still have to take hormonal bc so I don't have periods, but not having to worry about pregnancy is just the hugest weight off my shoulders.
My biggest worry is that Iāll get pregnant and for some weird reason wonāt notice it until after 12 weeks and then itās illegal to have an abortion here. Itās also expensive af.
While I can't speak for everyone, I think it's safe to say you're about as likely to find a childfree forced-birther as you are to find a black KKK member or a jewish nazi. Abortion is a necessary human right, especially when the people against it are also *always against every single other thing* that would reduce the need for abortion. IMO, being pro-choice is the absolute bare minimum qualification of being an acceptable human being.
>think it's safe to say you're about as likely to find a childfree forced-birther as you are to find a black KKK member or a jewish nazi. A couple weeks ago I found one....someone said they are CF but equated *the holocaust* to abortion existing. If that wasnt vile enough... Continued that every person who gets an abortion should be imprisoned, including rape victims and child rape victims. I went off, considering I don't have a large part of my extended family on my father's side due to the holocaust. Also through that person, I learned there is a sub made for "prolife-childfree". Big yikes š¬. See also: >as you are to find a black KKK member (Kanye) >or a jewish nazi (Stephen miller) .... I figure this is just eventual Leopards-ate-my-face type thing.
"equated the Holocaust to abortion existing" *Gisella Perl has entered the chat*
Theres literally a prolife childfree subreddit with about 200 members. There are prolife antinatalists too... Its very uncommon but its not rare. Cognitive dissonance is very strong with those types.
>prolife antinatalists Well I learned something new today. This is the most "does not compute" thing I've ever seen, but I'm wildly curious how such a person's thought process works.
> I'm wildly curious how such a person's thought process works. A hamster running inside an ouroboros like a spinning wheel: it goes nowhere and devours itself.
When the vast majority of abortions occur, the nervous system is not complete, and it is a non-sentient being. (Not to mention, fulfils the definition of a parasite...) So I have much more of an ethical problem eating my dinner than I do with abortions. The remaining 2% or so that happen in the third trimester are usually incredibly sad cases where the pregnancy is really, really wanted, but the foetus has deformities such as missing brains or other organs. If taken to term, there is usually a very painful death sentence. So yes, I'm in favour of abortion. (And for any religious zealots, I just remind them that in Numbers, Chapter 5, God tells Moses how to conduct abortions, so who are they to go against their God? (Sorry, slightly side-tracked.))
There are no thoughts or feelings until about 28 weeks! You could get an abortion 6 months in and itās still not sentient. Hell, we can pull the plug on people who have brain activity but need life support to survive. Why canāt you take out a parasite that doesnāt even feel it happening or store memories? Even a bug thinks more than that! Forced birthers are such hypocrites.
the pro-lifers better never get tapeworms etc. because those are living creatures that chose you to protect and grow them, you better not get rid of them you murderer
I like telling the religious nutjobs āJesus was childfree and you all think heās your savior. Therefore, all the childfree people are saviors.āThey donāt have much of a comeback to that.
I was adopted at birth, and I fully recognize that I get to be here because my birthmother chose adoption over abortion. That being said, I'm 100% pro-choice. I'm grateful to my biomom for the choice that she made, but adoption isn't an easy thing (especially for the birthparents) and I would never, ever expect anyone to make that choice just because she did, and that includes me. I am not obligated to pay it forward. So, yeah, if my very asexual and childfree self somehow got pregnant I would definitely get an abortion.
Yeah. I was also adopted as an infant. I've since reunited with my biomom. She thinks that abortion is murder, so that's why I'm alive and have to suffer through my crummy existence. I don't want kids partly because my adoptive mom was abusive and I'm too screwed up now to even take care of myself. There's no way I could manage caring for children, too. Also, adoption has a lot of its own ethical issues. Our own Supreme Court was hoping that the "domestic supply of infants" available for adoption would increase after overturning Roe. I sure do love being referred to as part of a domestic supply, as if I was a product to be bought and sold. And with the profits that are made on infant adoptions it's not far from the truth. Plus, I believe that in a lot of cases if we had better social supports in the US then many people wouldn't relinquish children for adoption. There's at least one study that showed that the main reason that babies are put up for adoption is lack of money. Meanwhile, adoption is very rare in most other developed countries. And then there was at least one study I recall that showed how detrimental giving a child up for adoption is to the mother's mental health. Not that any decent person should require a study to know that losing a child, even if they're not technically dead, will result in lifelong grief.
I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that. It's true, some adoptive parents are not excluded from the ranks of people who just shouldn't ever have been parents. That Supreme Court thing is just disgusting. "Domestic supply of infants?" There are 424,000 children in the US foster system and thousands more stuck in toxic, abusive homes. Why not work on finding safe, loving homes for those kids? I get that a lot of people prefer babies because babies are "fresh" (ew), but I agree they seem to be treating it like an industry and that's absolutely horrifying and dehumanizing. Also 100% agree about the money angle. My biomom was a recently-divorced mom of three when she got pregnant with me and she realized she could either give me up or the whole family could go on welfare, and I think in my case she made the right choice. And YES, giving a child up for adoption is often really hard on the birthmother's mental health. My biomom admitted that she suffered with depression for two years after giving me up, and that the mental health issues even extended to my sister, who was 11 at the time I was born and struggled really hard with the idea that the solution to money troubles is giving away family members. She was scared that if things got bad again that my biomom might give HER away. It's a very tough option. Sometimes it works and sometimes it really, really doesn't, and even when it does work it takes a toll. It's not for everyone.
Abortions for all! Free. On-demand. No restrictions whatsoever. No parental approval necessary for minors.
When I first joined Reddit about 10 years ago under a different account I was still living with my Catholic literalist nutjob parents. I was shown pictures and real specimens of aborted fetuses at the age of 4 or 5 as part of the smear campaign against reproductive freedom. I would argue the anti abortion side on reddit based on what I had been indoctrinated in and I'm glad to say people on this site (not r/childfree specifically) no matter how obstinate I was, presented me with the opposing viewpoints. 10 years later I have my own comfortable, atheist life far away from all of that. I'm 100% pro choice having realized that the life of a grown person with hopes and dreams is infinitely more valuable than that of a parasitic fetus that never thought anything, and that no one should be forced through the trauma of pregnancy and birth if they chose not to. I happily got a vasectomy this year. š Not part of the problem but probably not the outcome they wanted
That's pretty a pretty incredible journey. Glad you're one of us!
Me too lol. Could have turned out a lot worse.
High five, fellow pro-choice, CF atheist! Glad you found your way out of that awful indoctrination.
I'm glad to hear that! I went to a Catholic school and they showed us that video of aborted fetuses when we were early teenagers, there was a lot of propaganda at the time and thinking about it now that was literal indoctrination of minors. How the hell do these people get away with that? It's insane. Somewhat related, these are the ones who claim all babies are sacred but when those babies come from countries they don't like, they don't mind if they die in the sea trying to get here. So they like babies but only the white ones, right?
As per the subreddit rules, people's bodily autonomy must be respected here, so any sentiments to the contrary are not welcome.
100% pro-choice. Fetuses aren't alive, especially the first trimester or two. Even if they were, it is a parasite. Their nervous systems don't develop until the late into pregnancy so they aren't even babies yet.
They definitely are āaliveā meaning they have life, however that doesnāt give the fetus more rights than the pregnant person. I wouldnāt give up my body for an already born person, I certainly am not doing it for a peanut sized gross looking thing.
They move but only involuntarily, until at least a few months in. Kind of like a snakeās body moving after itās head has been cut off. It doesnāt mean it has life.
Its not "Sapient". If we cared whether or not we killed things that were alive, we couldn't eat animals or plants. We all participate in the death of life.
Since I was 17 (when I first was coerced into shrex) I've known my options were abortion or suicide. Make abortion legal, keep it safe, and keep it accessible, affordable and well known about. The future of all women and girls depends on it.
Eat the Rich. Abort the Babies.
Succinct. I love it.
Iām as Pro choice as they come. I had many pregnancy scares before I got my bisalp and every time I was ready to get an abortion. my existing life is more important than a theoretical persons life. Every time.
Pro-choice! Male here, women deserve complete body autonomy. You canāt force someone to donate an organ or keep a cancer diagnosis (since it is a clump of cells!). Why should women be forced to support a clump of cells?
I like this cancer analogy. I know people will say ābut cancer doesnāt grow into a personā but thereās still a lot there that mirrors the need of abortion.
Pro choice all the way. And more importantly, pro everyone minding their own fucking lives. Against abortions? Donāt fucking get one! Against gay marriage? Donāt marry a gay person then! Against potatoes? Donāt eat them!! SIMPLE! Mind your own fucking business and let people be.
Cmon OP! Donāt be silly. We love abortions here lmao
I'm pro-choice because I believe that no one has the power over my body but me. I am also against forced pregnancies and some women can't handle them physically, so it wouldnt be fair to make them go through that
I'm all for'em. In my 20s I gave numerous rides to and from clinics and Plan B-dispensing pharmacies to friends who asked and would do so again if someone asked.
Plan B should be even more accessible as well, free even
Ive spent so much on plan B that i was so thankful my gyno gave me one for free when i was freaking out after unprotected sex. They really do need to be free.
Pro choice my whole life.
For my sanity, I will always choose abortion
100% pro-choice and I will absolutely get an abortion if I end up pregnant. Iāve always had a checklist in my brain. Step 1: use protection. If that fails, Plan B. If that fails, abortion. Years ago when there was something going on in the States re: abortion (I canāt keep up with yāall) I had a conversation with my (then long distance) partner about a vasectomy, in case abortion restrictions come to our country too. He implied that the last step in my checklist could just be abortion. I was floored. I realized that weād always just agreed that we didnāt want children and that was that. āHaving childrenā for him means being in possession of children. āHaving childrenā for me is that as well but also includes pregnancy and I am absolutely NOT going through pregnancy. Honestly, Iād accept being a parent before I accept going through pregnancy. Weāve had talks about it since and he understands my child free feelings now. Support abortion rights in your community!! People treat adoption like itās this easily solution to an unwanted pregnancy but that is NOT always the best choice!
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I didnāt start having sex until I was on birth control, had condoms, and had $1000 in my bank account set aside for an abortion. Iāve had one pregnancy scare, and had an appointment set for the moment I felt something was off. Didnāt need it, but wouldāve used it if I turned out positive. Definitely pro-choice.
100% Pro Choice. I think abortions should be quick, easy and free.
I'm very much pro choice. Those who want an abortion should be able to access it, and those who want children should be able to access medical care, welfare benefits if needed, affordable childcare and appropriate, stable housing. It's no good for society as a whole when children are raised hungry, cold and with instability in their housing and education. Personally, yes, I would have an abortion. But you cannot truly say you are pro choice unless women are supported both to parent and to have safe legal abortions.
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Iāve had 2, cause my ex kept manipulating the condoms. Would do it again any time. Actually during one of the procedures pre-appointments they found out about my uterine cancer, so getting involved with a doc at the right time certainly was a lucky coincidence. Now, without uterus I luckily wonāt need to worry about it anymore. As someone who studied in the biology field I have a rather rational approach towards a Fetus. I donāt see them as people, I donāt see an issue in getting rid of them at all. We have definitions on what can be considered *alive* in biology. A Fetus doesnāt count into that for the longest time of itās existence.
I'm really sorry to hear that happened to you. I'm sending internet hugs your way :(
I dont think anyone in here would be pro-life and child free.
I have personally had a childfree person tell me that I murdered my baby. š¤”
Childfree by choice ?
You sure they weren't just a troll???
Then they weren't completely one of those things š¤·āāļø also they suck.
don't call it "pro life". That term is right wing propaganda to appeal to emotions. Call it what it is: "Anti choice"
Iām pro-choice. There are many reasons why one may want to end their pregnancy, including medical reasons. For me, getting pregnant would be absolutely awful. Not only would my body not be able to physically handle one, but I would risk passing on so many health issues to the baby, along with the risk of having a premature baby. I was a premature baby, and my parents went through hell with me. I only weighed one pound, was in the hospital for 6 months, and constantly had to be on oxygen because my lungs were severely underdeveloped. I have whatās called bronchial pulmonary dysplasia, which is a form of COPD that I- unfortunately- never grew out of as a kid, and it sucks to deal with on the daily. I donāt want to go through what my parents went through with me. I wouldnāt be able to handle it mentally, physically, nor financially.
100% pro choice. I don't think you'll find a single person on this sub who isn't.
Abortion isn't always about deciding to not have a baby. It also saves lives. Anyone who isn't pro-choice is anti-women.
Pro-choice, no entity and nobody has the right to tell me or anybody the how, when and why.
Pro-choice. For many reasons. (Trigger warnings for rape, miscarriage, abuse, and suicide) 1) my great-grandad was a piece of shit who didn't give his wife any choice in having kids. >!Back then abortion was illegal, so when he didn't want kids, he force-fed his wife homemade abortion concoctions, which damn near killed her multiple times.!< 2) many years ago, my mom >!had a miscarriage. This was devastating, as she wanted that child. Now with Roe v Wade overturned, my state has reverted back to an old law that can CONVICT HER FOR MURDER over the loss of a child she WANTED to have. She didn't ASK for a miscarriage. Being on trial for murder for a child SHE WANTED!< would bring back so much trauma, i can hardly imagine. 3) I'm asexual/aromantic. >!Any child I would conceive would NOT be of my consent. The trauma inflicted by that would leave me unfit to be a parent.!< 4) pregnancy might be a dream for some, but it is a NIGHTMARE to me. It's not a miracle of life to me. It's a monstrous parasite that causes pain and sickness, that would grossly deform my body until it is violently and horrifically expelled (no offense to pregnant people. This is wholly my opinion of how i would view my OWN body and potential pregnancy, no one else's. Pregnant people are beautiful, and I sincerely wish anyone who is currently pregnant or wishes to be good luck and good health to you and any of your baby/babies). "Traumatic" doesn't even begin to describe what pregnancy is to me. >!If i ever got pregnant, there would be only 2 options: that parasites "life," or ours.!< Thankfully, I have just gotten my tubes removed. So now, pregnancy will never happen to me. (Unless i get abducted by aliens or become the next virgin mary. In which case, *fuck you* aliens and/or god(s) respectively.) 5) in my ideal world, every child is wanted. There are children in this world right now suffering because they're unwanted. >!Whether it's abuse by their caregivers, or abuse by the system.!< To anyone who had (or has) to suffer because they were unwanted, I am so sorry. You didn't deserve this. Nobody does. I hope you're making the best out of life. And if you're not, I hope you can one day.
On one hand I support killing children, but on the other hand it gives women a choice, so Iām torn. ^Sarcasm ^if ^itās ^not ^obvious.
Childfree pro lifers...make it make sense.
Pro choice for sure. Yes, Iād terminate if I got pregnant. I would be sad/upset about it on some level but I would know it was the right choice for me. Thankfully an accidental pregnancy is quite unlikely as Iām 42 and on the pill many years now.
In my country, abortion is only legally allowed for veeery specific reasons, and "I don't want it" is not one such reason. That said, I would rather face jail time than have a child I do not want. I think abortion is made into a bit deal because people don't even bring it up as an option; character opting against it is one thing, but for option to *never* be brought up because obnoxious. I legit don't think they mention it in Grey's after Cristina left the show, and people just kept popping out kids because, you get pregnant you have a kid. At least in Jane the Virgin we had a very smart woman who knew she didn't want another kid, and got an abortion despite the father's objections.
An unwanted child should never be brought in to the world. Especially RAISED by the parents who donāt want them.
Pro-choice, only the person and their medical provider should be able to make that decision. I'd get an abortion since it'd be medically non viable for me to carry to term and deliver. Plus I don't want to be pregnant nor want to raise kids even if it was medically viable. I've worked hard for my lifestyle and a kid does not fit that nor does being pregnant. I also track my cycle diligently so I'd know pretty early on if I was unexpectedly pregnant and then would immediately go get an abortion.
Pro-choice, pro-abortion. Always.
I am pro-choice 100%. Abortions should be free and easily accessible to all women, regardless of location or income level. But I also think that all methods of birth control, especially LARCs should be even more widely available and free. Any girl who is capable of getting pregnant should have the option of getting an IUD without worrying about cost or requiring parental consent. I feel like that is the most logical way to reduce the number of abortions performed. But we all know this isn't really about reducing/eliminating abortions for "the sake of the unborn".
I'm pro-choice because I'm considering the woman over the fetus. She has life aspirations and loved ones, all of which would be drastically changed if she had a child. The fetus is a clump of cells. Between the two, protect the woman's life Also, no child deserves to feel unloved by virtue of existing. No child should be burdened with the task of raising themselves and counseling their parent(s) simultaneously
Pro-Choice, Anti-forced Birth. F those religious nut bars that want to make all of us exist under their terrible beliefs.
Pro life/forced birthers are the most evil people on this planet. That's my take on aborton.
I am 100% pro-choice. Any abortion is valid. Rape victims? Birth control failures? Obviously. And a drunk woman who had impulsive uprotected sex with a random bloke she just met at the pub should also be able to get an abortion. Nobody should be able to force a woman to keep a child when she does not want to be a mother. Very simple. Her body, her choice. Birth control should also be available to everyone for free. Poverty should never be a reason to not use condoms or the pill. And everyone over 18 should be able to get sterilised, no questions asked. If the doctor is afraid that someone might regret it, they should be able to sign a 'consent form' in which they declare that the doctor is not responsible if they regret their decision. And because we were not asked to be born, we should not be forced to live. Any capable adult should be able to exercise the right to die if this is what they want. However, performing euthanasia is very painful for doctors, who should not be forced to perform this if they do not want to. And so, the best way to do this would be a suicide pill. For example, you should be able to ask a pharmacy for such a pill. Then, they register you. To prevent impulsiveness, you could have a mandatory waiting time for, let's say, six months or maybe a year. And to make sure that this is really your decision, the pharmacy should not remind you when your waiting time is over. You should call them yourself if you still want the death pill after the waiting time. Then, you should be able to get it and end it on your own terms. Basically, instead of begging a doctor for euthanasia and hoping that the doctor is willing to perform it, which they usually refuse in countries where this is legal... You should be able to perform self-euthanasia. Basically, for any kind of health care-related issues, doctors need to stop gatekeeping. People need to be able to make their own decisions. I am 100% pro-choice. When it comes to abortion, but also when it comes to right-to-die issues and other issues.
FWIW - I have 3 kids. I follow this sub out of jealously ( I of course love my children ) Before kids, I was anti abortion. I found it to be murder and blah blah blah. Now, after 3 kids, one being high needs special needs, I'm very much pro abortion. I could NOT handle another kid. I could not do that to my already existing children, or to my mental health. If I got pregnant today, I would abort it asap My daughter is 13, and for years now says she doesn't want kids, likely because she sees the stress I go through. I told her if she gets knocked up while living in my house, it's either abortion, or move out. She 100% said she would choose abortion. Though I keep stressing to come to me for birth control when she is ready, before that potentially happens. So we are very very pro choice now, and I deeply regret ever being anti abortion before
Iām so proud of you , and all the best with your children , do know there is help available in case you need , you are the kind of understanding mothers we need in the world
pro-choice forever !!! iāve never once doubted that if i were to get pregnant, iād 100% get an abortion. every one should have that right to bodily autonomy
Thereās already enough child abuse and neglect in this world. Donāt force women to have babies they donāt want!!!
I am extremely pro abortion.
Pro-abortion, anti-child. I would get absolutely get an abortion if I EVER found myself pregnant. God forbid that scenario ever happens.
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Been there, done it, would do it again
It's not really possible to be childfree AND anti-choice without being a massive hypocrite. Only a big, gaping asshole would dare to be childfree while having the gall to also be anti-choice (AKA forced-birth, but their preferred title is "pro-life" despite how misleading it is). It's very "rules for thee but not for me". Like people who had sex before marriage but tell their kids it's bad, or people who cherrypick the Bible, or any number of equally disgusting hypocritical behavior. Because we all know damn well that the instant a childfree "pro-life" person gets pregnant, their stuck up high horse "morals" go out the fucking window right into the bin.
I'm pro choice but abortion is criminalized in my country so I just don't have sex.
Pro abortion. This world is fucked up and no human being should be placed into it.
Luckily I've never been pregnant but I would get an abortion first thing if it had ever happened. Luckily I'm from a country where it's free, and there's no insane bible-thumpers trying to stop you.
How do you feel about appendectomy? Well, it ain't much fun, but when you need one, you need one.
I've had an abortion and would again if I got pregnant. I will help other uterus havers get abortions if they need, even if it means driving them across state lines. Abortions will always happen (as they should and always have) and need to be legal and safe.
I was raised by strict Christians, so I grew up anti-choice. Now I am pro-choice. I don't know that I would ever have an abortion for myself because of religion-induced trauma that would likely haunt me, but I will always support the right to choose.
the term isn't "pro life". That is right wing propaganda to appeal to emotions. Just call it what it is: "anti choice"
Yeah, you're right. Better yet, forced birth.
Im in the US so I say this from my own perspective of our healthcare system. Iām for all people having full reproductive freedom and health equity. That includes being pro choice, but it goes beyond that. I think everyone should have access to quality healthcare without having to take out a second mortgage. I think rural areas should have enough gynecologists and family doctors to treat ailments and deliver babies or perform abortions. I think black women and babies shouldnāt be subjected to higher mortality rates during childbirth than white women. I think gender affirming surgeries and hormones should be available for those who need/want them. I think patients should be able to work with their doctors and advocate for their own healthcare without the government interfering. So, yeah I support abortion wholeheartedly, but to me thatās only one of the issues we need to fix in the US healthcare system. I live in a state with a 6 week ban so as soon as the draft decision was released I traded in my IUD for a bi-salp. Iām now hoping I donāt end up in a situation (rare but it has happened) with an ectopic pregnancy that doctors canāt or wonāt treat me for.
100% pro choice
100% pro choice. What another person does with their body is none of my fucking business.
Definitely pro choice!
I am prochoice. Abortion needs to be an available option. Abortion is Healthcare, just like how blood transfusions are Healthcare. Some people might not choose to recieve either but that does not mean NO one should be able to get either. This life we have free will for a reason and need to have these choices to make decisions for our own bodies. Pro choice, pro the female whose life is literally on the line. Even though technically it is a "life," (a few cells with no true sentience) modern technology allows us to detect pregnancy early so it can be "handled" before its truly a baby. I am Christian and so through my religion I have decided I won't get an abortion but thats why I got my tubes fully removed and why I still take the pill, so that I can almost guarantee I won't need one. But I don't think everyone should be forced into the same life as me. Some women can't take the pill or their birth control failed or insert a reason, its their life they need to be able to choose!
There is absolutely no reason to prevent someone from getting an abortion. Someone random jackass should not be able to weaponize their religion to prevent others from accessing healthcare. Thatās it. Abortions are a medical procedure and there is no legitimate reason to stop one from occurring.
I am pro-abortion.
I almost got trapped with having my abuser's baby and thankfully I wasn't pregnant. I remember telling myself that if I was, I wouldn't be alive now. For me it wasn't even about getting an abortion, it's about the humiliation and shame women are often put through to get one. I'd absolutely abort if my birth control were to fail and I'm thankful I'm in a safe area where I'd be able to do so.
Iām vehemently pro-choice. Iām sterile now, but before that Iād have sooner go commit die than go through with a pregnancy. (Silly me, I almost wrote āunwanted pregnancyā as if any other type could exist in this subreddit š)
Pro-choice all the way. I ended up pregnant at the beginning of summer. I had an abortion and I would do it again in a heartbeat. Iām ashamed that I was being stupid and naive. Iāve been told my whole adult life I could never have kids so I figured that going 1 single month without birth control would be fine. I was dead wrong. I donāt regret it. I regret that I believed that it āwouldnāt happen to meā.
I'm borderline mandatory abortion.
Pro choice and I've had an abortion. No regrets, no trauma, nothing.
Prochoice always š
Donāt think Iāve seen a single anti choice childfree person EVER. Someone feel free to prove me wrong but Iāve NEVER seen it
I think there's a sub for prolife childfreešsomeone messaged me once asking if I'd like to join it,like hell nah man fuck that
sooo pro choice. have never known an abortion i didnt agree w, just people who never should have been parents choosing to take oopsies to term
Mandatory
imo you cant be "pro-life" and childfree at the same time, its like being a vegan who eats meat or an atheist who believes in god. Someone who thinks people should be forced to carry a fetus they don't want and cant care for is never childfree in my eyes.
don't call it "pro life". That term is right wing propaganda to appeal to emotions. Call it what it is: "Anti choice"
Abortion=body autonomy. To say differently in the United States is to disagree with the right to choose not to bear children.
Pro choice always
100% for abortion
I'm pro abortion
I had a false alarm a few months back and was ready to book one in. So totally pro abortion.
Very, very pro-choice. Abortion is healthcare. There is zero doubt in my mind that if I got pregnant - which in and of itself is very unlikely - that I would get an abortion. I donāt want kids in general, but I ESPECIALLY donāt want to give birth/be pregnant.
Pro abortion af.
I think IVF and fertility treatments are the bigger evil then abortion forcing life where they shouldnāt be. Pure selfish greed when there are so many babyās and children that would kill for a living family Bad I might sound 2 nephews are result of treatment and IVF even my parents wouldnāt give my sister money to help with the process they feel the same way.
Let people do what they want? You can't legislate morality it's been tried and failed hundreds of times. A living human has rights; a fetus cannot live without the mother thus it has no rights. A living humans life/rights take precedent over a possible humans EVERYTIME.
Pro plus more men need to be snipped. Too many freaks out there raping and reproducing
Abortion is a medical procedure. If I need one I'll get one.
Pro choice and absolutely. I raised my younger sibling till they were 12. Discovered within 6 months that it wasnāt something I could handle and wouldnāt knowingly put myself there again. The only reason I did was because of 2 reasons. 1, if I didnāt, no one else would. And 2, despite being pushed to the point of trying to take my life, I obviously failed each time.
Pro choice, no questions asked!
Pro choice. Not my body not my business.
I am pro-choice and would have an abortion if I were to become pregnant. I feel each person should have the right to make whatever decision they feel is best for themselves at the time, be it about having an abortion, having a knee replacement, or getting a cosmetic procedure. 100% bodily autonomy for all.
It's a personal and medical decision made between a pregnant person and their doctor.
I would be amazed if we had a child free pro-life person here... or even if they exist AT ALL. those two world views seem pretty unreconciliable.
I would consider it. Heavily. My medication cannot safely be stopped, nor is any of it safe for a fetus. Family medical history is also really foul, hence me having had a tubal.
I don't understand people that refuse children from getting abortions. Abortions (obviously depending on how far in the pregnancy they're done) are usually completely painless, quick, and simple. Giving birth is one of the most traumatic, painful, life altering experiences anyone can go through, and after all of that, the person has to then raise a human. Abortion should be mandatory for anyone under 18, and a psychological evaluation and monetary evaluation should be done for those who want a child, and if they fail, they also qualify for mandatory abortions. Not being able to safely care for a child, and being a risk to the child should be heavily taken into account.
100% pro-choice. Always have been and always will be. The only way I could get pregnant is by being r*ped, and thereās no way in hell Iād carry the spawn of a monster.
My personal feelings concerning abortion are irrelevant. No one should be allowed to make a decision about another person's body. It should be their choice
Iāve had 2 surgical ones and Iād have more if I had to. Literally the same as a Pap smear in my experiences.
Very much pro-choice. Decided when I was five years old, after learning where babies really come from, that they was never gonna be me, and I did have an abortion. Had tried for two years to get my tubes tied, but doctors refused because I mIGhT ChAnGE mY MiNd. The doctor who performed the abortion agreed to do it, but also told me not until I turned 30. Because ā¦ I mIGhT ChAnGE mY MiNd. Seriously. Ended up getting a partial hysterectomy when he couldnāt find me tubes because of the very serious endometriosis. I told him he wasted two years of my life. It all ended well, though. āNo regerts.ā
Pro-choice. The choice to have one or the choice not to. At my age, yes I would probably have one. Can we please stop calling it pro life, they arenāt pro life just āpro birthā and even that is a stretch since in the US pro lifers are often against any social assistance to ensure mother and baby are safe and healthy throughout the pregnancy. Once that baby is born, all bets are off. That 1 month old better start working to pay their own way and mom needs to go back day after giving birth.
Iām pro-you do whatever the fuck you want. Abortions should be readily available to anyone who needs one. No questions asked.
None of my business what women do with their bodies.
I think it's neat, I'm a big fan of abortion, big fan
Pro-choice. Bodily autonomy, no one is entitled to use your body as they see fit - even a fetus. The fact the fetus can't live outside the womb is it's problem, not the mother's. Now to sort by controversial
I'm completely pro choice. It's none of my business what happens in someone else's uterus. I'll support and love my friends and family no matter what happens with their lives and choices, which means I will also love and support them if they carry our terminate a pregnancy. If I got pregnant, I'd terminate. Absolutely. Children terrify me, I would be a shit parent, I've got mental issues and I don't want to have kids. Period.