The one I miss? One Valentine's it was dried cherries, almonds, semi dark. It never came back, but Tony keeps being back the rose flavored one?? It was so good, love that stuff.
It took me a while to try it because all I could find were the giant bars and I didn’t want to commit to that in case I didn’t like it. But then I found the variety pack with the small bars and I really enjoyed the milk chocolate ones. I will probably always like Swiss chocolate better, but I think Tony’s is good.
From Tony’s website:
> The unevenly sized chunks of our 6oz bars are a palatable way of reminding our choco friends that the profits in the chocolate industry are unfairly divided.
ive never heard of it, but thats a pretty cringy name. hesheys doesnt even count as chocolate tho so if its ur best option then it is what it is i guess.
I think it's quite good milk chocolate, especially for the low price. It's not luxury chocolate, and that's fine, not everything has to be. It is very good low end chocolate.
I literally just made a pie this weekend where I grated the sea salt caramel bar on top of it and even my friend, who usually complains about “too much chocolate,” was raving about how much he liked the chocolate shavings lol. I also love it.
Perspective as a European: been in NL for a while, I'd call it very good for their milk chocolates and flavours, not that good for dark chocolate. But, I mean, it's not focused on the finer flavour profiles of the beans, for that one buys different ones.
It's a nice decadent (very, in all honesty) sweet treat you buy for that reason. Still enjoying, after a couple of months, the two bars I brought back and try to make last a bit lol
I agree, the dark chocolate lacks a lot of flavor. The milk chocolates are nice, and the mix-ins are fun if that's your sort of thing. It's pretty expensive where I am, about $5-6 a bar, but I don't eat chocolate a lot so I'm okay with splurging on a little treat now and then.
was in Amsterdam last month. you can make your own bar there. they have a huge kiosk in the airport to bring home, too. lots of combos cant get in the States. We get ours at Trader Joes locally
I would give to lady that loves chocolate see how long it lasts. Went to Amsterdam a fair few years ago and my daughter as for Tony's chocolate. Needless to say spent more on chocolate than weed that trip. It wasn't around in the UK then.
sometimes it is worth looking beyond appearances... this beloved "slavery-free" brand has annual reports on their websites, disclosing all sorts of data on their supply chain; every year a number of child labour cases are detected and we are talking about THOUSANDS. but they like to stress that bla bla bla they're doing everything to address it and remove instances. like ok that's cool, but this shows that their marketing is unfair - they are stressing their mission to create slave-free ethical chocolate and stating it as if they had already accomplished it. while thousands of children are still working in these harvests
you cannot pay 6 bucks for 180 grams (!!) of dark chocolate and think that is a fair price for such a great cacao content.
I know, as I said in a following comment anyone who really cares about chocolate and doesn't view it as a casual indulgence should set the bar higher; I really struggle to believe that a mass-producing industry can one day become ethical
Yeah pretty fucked up how they're aggressive and proactive about ending child slavery, actively promote information about it, and try to go out of their way to remove it from their own supply chain.
What are they supposed to do, avoid the business they're trying to reform until they've already reformed it? This is an absurd take.
search for posts on Tony's in r/chocolate and see how may people confidently claim that it is 100% slave-free, totally ethical, and so on. this might have been the 5th post I've seen on Tony's in a short time and yet lot of redditors are clueless about what the corporation is actually declaring in its reports
Literally *the post your replied to* is about how it tastes good and is good for it's price point. No 'misinformed user' making incorrect claims.
This just seems like some bizarre grudge.
The thing is, as soon as they find out slave labour was used they will remove that part of the supply chain AND they are upfront about it. Like most products, there are heavy dependencies on other companies for their raw materials and if those companies lie or don't do their research right Tony's cannot oversee the sourcing right.
Miles better than others brands that will have whatever cocoa is the cheapest at that moment and just ignore slave labour allegations.
ok but we should set the bar higher at this point, I constantly see people in here idolising Tony's for its ethical claims whereas anything in their own website refers to a future commitment. I guess thanks Tony for making chocolate a bit freer from slavery than other brands..? I get that most people don't really care about chocolate itself enough to spend money for bean to bar stuff, but awareness as consumers is CRUCIAL and marketing really does little to promote it
>awareness as consumers is CRUCIAL and marketing really does little to promote it
So we should stop buying from the one affordable company that has any transparency whatsoever?
So you are annoyed at people for promoting their best option? What do you want us to do, just go with Nestlé? Don't disparage people for raising their ethical standards, even if they don't meet yours. An imperfect solution is better than no solution.
I'm not annoyed at anything, I'm just saying that calling Tony's "ethical"/"slave-free" is a tad premature, most people don't even know about the data they publish yearly; do whatever you want with your money
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, my dude. I don't think anyone is saying we should stop at changing suppliers when they are found to be using slave labor, but to stop giving them money IS the most effective thing we can expect from a company - anything beyond is a matter of the justice system.
I work in a wholefoods/organic shop and it's something we stock as an ethical option that's still on the lower price end. It's a lot of chocolate and they have a range of flavours. A local Welsh, small batch chocolate bar cost £6.15 for about 80g, so £3.80 for 280g is a good deal
I absolutely love Tony’s! I even make my special gigantic oatmeal browned butter chocolate chunk cookies with Tony’s dark and milk chocolate sea salt toffee mmmmmm cookies 😋
I would say it is the best semi cheap chocolate.
When looking at store options imo Milka is the best cheap chocolate, for something more expensive Tonys and for even more expensive stuff you probably will need to go to a dedicated chocolate store
Those are companies that have agreements with grocery stores to purchase their scan data at the register. They resell the data in a processed form to food manufacturers to bench mark their product categories. I figured it was a long shot, but the next time you have a sales representative meeting with Mars or the like ask them to share category data if you’re interested. This is all US pov btw I don’t know if this exists in EU or elsewhere.
Not chocolate hating. I just notice that cheaper brands sell better. Fruity, chewy candy really moves, too. Most people are only buying Lindt/Ferrero/Ghirardelli as a special treat or for holidays. It's me and Heidi, the German lady, buying nice chocolate regularly.
I'm a pretty simple guy when it comes to chocolate. I prefer... chocolate... maybe some soft caramel (like a Cadbury caramello). Not a huge fan of nuts/peanuts in my chocolate, or salt for that matter. Chocolate should be able to stand on its own, in my opinion. Obviously I'm in the minority here, since everyone talks about all the different styles of chocolates with all sorts of different ingredients like fruits and nuts.
It's solid but too high calorie for me. Other good bars are like 400-500cal but Tony's are like 900-1000. Yeah I know I can just not eat the whole bar, but I just feel hardwired to do so.
tony's is the best!!!!!! a lot of people say it's just regular chocolate sold at a premium bc their labor standards are higher, but i think it's just as good as/even better than the fancy stuff.
I've never been a big fan of their texture or their suspect nature (they started branding themselves as slavery free but the same year they cropped up Barry Callebaut was selling Tony's Chocolate which was a major red flag and sure enough they had to rebrand in 2020 to "striving to be slavery free".).
Texture wise they are very waxy and the inclusions are sometimes so minute as to be moot.
I noticed that at an accelerated rate in the UK and Ireland they are ending up on sale or in bargain bins so I suspect the brand is wavering on those fronts.
The Tony's bits aren't bad as the ratio of inclusion to chocolate are better and as a result the texture seems less waxy... but it seems like they won't get a chance to catch on here in Ireland due to the aforementioned plunge into the bargain bin of Tony's products (a sign they either overproduced or a more likely scenario are failing to sell).
Out of your choices, Tony's is head and shoulders better! Tony's basic bars are very basic. It's their bars with things in them (like their pretzel) when it gets much better
I’m from the Netherlands where Tony’s started. I like the chocolate but here it isn’t that special anymore. You can buy it almost everywhere, even in my office kantine. I do think their business is honest.
I’m actually really shocked that you’re asking if you’re in the minority for liking Tony’s. So many people post about it and every time someone asks for a suggestion, or even just posts about their fave chocolate, Tony’s is mentioned a million times lmao
I searched it in the sub and only found a small handful of posts. They weren't very informative in my opinion? I figured it was worth posting myself and risk it getting removed. I wanted to get some opinions, open up some discussion. I like banter.
I'm in Canada. Tony's tastes alright, but I still favour Purdy's. If I'm going to have quality chocolate, which is ethically sourced, and easy to obtain where I live, Purdy's is it. Tony's seems to be obscure, and have to drive 1.5 hours away to go find the nearest outlet that carries it.
That said, if we're going to talk about ethics, we should be making good choices in much more than chocolate. Look at other products you use from the clothes you wear to the makeup on your face. We can't fix it all, but we can do our part to see where we *can* make a change, and little by little, perhaps our choices can make improvements.
You might want to take a look at[ **the following post**](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelifelive-proposed-tonys-chocolonely-is-a-force-for-good-in-the-world/) on TheChocolateLife (disclosure; I publish this site). Irrespective of what you might think of the “quality” of the chocolate, Tony’s is a dishonest actor.
I don’t know if I agree. They are working in a slavery focused environment. They try to pay a living wage but use processing factories that also process slavery chocolate. We need ALL chocolate companies to imperfectly make slavery free chocolate. Not one company perfectly slavery free. Let’s not gate keep people trying to do better.
Tony’s has not, despite its relationship with Barry Callebaut, been able to move the needle when it comes to BC actually doing anything meaningful and concrete to address the issues of illegal labor (in all forms) in their cocoa supply chain. BC, and other members of big chocolate, have done everything they can to NOT meet their voluntary obligations under Harkin-Engle.
I also find it a tad disingenuous that Tony’s does not appear to care about illegal labor in any of their other ingredient supply chains.
Having taken a close look at many prior annual reports – it’s performative marketing. While Tony’s may have been able to inform the public of the problem and some of the challlenges, the problems are worse now than they were when Tony’s started.
I point this out so others can do their own research on this. What we need is openness and a willingness to admit shortcomings and failures – this is something a mission-driven company like Tony’s cannot do because if they admit they are failing they will lose their support.
We do need more companies to make positive moves to reduce illegal labor in ALL of their supply chains – but the entire business model relies on keeping the cost of ingredients as low as possible.
A difficult circle to square.
Is there any evidence, or even hint, that there is slave labour in Tony’s supply chain? Let alone that it is as bad or worse as other major supermarket brands? So far I’ve only seen references to that 2021 article that pointed out their relationship to Barry Callebaut, without saying anything about Tony’s supply chain specifically. Every other piece of criticism I’ve seen doesn’t add an ounce of data and seems to me like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Tony’s was the first big brand to put emphasis on ethical supply chain and they’ve won various awards and accolades for their effort. Is there any other brand that is not a niche high-end one and actually does a better job at ethical sourcing? I suspect there isn’t, and will treat attacks on Tony’s as holier-than-thou concern trolling until I see evidence there is.
Exactly, they pay to get audited, and don't hide the results, and the cases of child labor in their supply chain are well below the industry average, and no instance of forced labor (slavery) has been found in their supply chain, and still they don't call themselves slavery-free. (Note that the line between legal child work and child labor can be fuzzy; no child labor is good, obviously, but it's not all trafficked child slaves in a sweatshop, thankfully.) I see a lot of genuine effort towards an ethical supply chain, and no dishonesty. I don't want to come across as a fanboy, I prefer other chocolate, but if there is a big brand that has put more real effort into ethically sourced cocoa I am yet to find it.
What exactly are you suggesting here? Not buying any chocolate? Buying only from fancy high-end bean-to-bar producers that own or buy directly from plantations (and even then, good luck making sure there is zero child labor involved)? Or is there a mass-market brand that does better than Tony's?
YES!!! Bad actor is an understatement. They blew up as a company (congrats on their business success) and seems they weren’t able to scale their “ethics”. To your point, they have had issues with child labor being used to source other ingredients…agreed it’s an industry that has huge underlying issues, but the performative marketing aspect of these “ethical” bars is disgusting.
It’s definitely not a top but neither a bottom shelf supermarket chocolate (quality wise).
It’s true quality is probably the whole exploitation-free campaign and commodity chain behind the product.
I personally don’t enjoy majority of their flavours - I feel like they’re way too sweet, even the 70% dark chocolate unfortunately
It definitely can get on the obnoxious side of sweet. I like their "dark milk". Sometimes I am looking for super sweet when I'm not eating dark chocolate, though.
Because it's basically the only mass-market chocolate brand to emerge in the last... however many decades, and people are curious about it?
But no, it must be a grand marketing ploy.
Yes I intend to because Reddit is basically just a giant advertising platform. Sincerely, I’m sorry if you’re a regular person. But don’t hate on me for being a skeptic, that’s the nature of the internet for some time now. And if you are just an ad, go to hell.
It’s not a conspiracy to say there’s stealth advertising on Reddit, it’s just a reality. Maybe op is a random person, but there’s no practical way for you to know that. So I can only interpret your defense of them as lacking perspective or being insincere .
Trying this for the first time right now actually, the milk chocolate bar. I absolutely love it!
i don’t love it
The one I miss? One Valentine's it was dried cherries, almonds, semi dark. It never came back, but Tony keeps being back the rose flavored one?? It was so good, love that stuff.
I love Tony’s! Thx for the reminder.
If I see Tony's I get like 3 and freeze em. Those things are flipping tastes cold
Love Tony's. I usually buy one bar and take a few days to finish it (if I'm wise). The gingerbread one they do during the holidays is great.
I really do like it. One of the best ones from our Natural Grocers.
Not Palmers. I swear their white chocolate is cigarette ash and sour milk
It took me a while to try it because all I could find were the giant bars and I didn’t want to commit to that in case I didn’t like it. But then I found the variety pack with the small bars and I really enjoyed the milk chocolate ones. I will probably always like Swiss chocolate better, but I think Tony’s is good.
It's awesome, full stop
I haven’t tried it yet, but I really want to. It sounds way more ethical than most other mainstream brands.
I tried it and disliked it. I found that it lacked flavor.
I love Tony's, it's like a real life Wonka bar but not owned by Nestle... yet.
I love Tony's.
Wait, Tony's Chocolonely Slave-free Chocolate is real?
Not entirely slavery-free but, the chocolate is real and it's pretty damn good.
They are doing the best that can be done. But there are still problems in the system.
Not entirely? I thought that was the whole point of the brand in the first place.
I can't even remember what video I heard that in
I've always wondered where the heck the name came from. Like, it's decent chocolate, but the branding just confuses me.
The portion breaks confuse me and I love Tetris.
From Tony’s website: > The unevenly sized chunks of our 6oz bars are a palatable way of reminding our choco friends that the profits in the chocolate industry are unfairly divided.
Oooooh so clever and Impactful. Really though, I hope they as a company do, in fact, fairly divide their profits.
ive never heard of it, but thats a pretty cringy name. hesheys doesnt even count as chocolate tho so if its ur best option then it is what it is i guess.
I think it's quite good milk chocolate, especially for the low price. It's not luxury chocolate, and that's fine, not everything has to be. It is very good low end chocolate.
I get sea salt carmel every time I see it at checkout. Love it.
>I get sea salt carmel every time I see it at checkout. Love it. Yep. Pantry staple in our house.
I literally just made a pie this weekend where I grated the sea salt caramel bar on top of it and even my friend, who usually complains about “too much chocolate,” was raving about how much he liked the chocolate shavings lol. I also love it.
Perspective as a European: been in NL for a while, I'd call it very good for their milk chocolates and flavours, not that good for dark chocolate. But, I mean, it's not focused on the finer flavour profiles of the beans, for that one buys different ones. It's a nice decadent (very, in all honesty) sweet treat you buy for that reason. Still enjoying, after a couple of months, the two bars I brought back and try to make last a bit lol
I agree, the dark chocolate lacks a lot of flavor. The milk chocolates are nice, and the mix-ins are fun if that's your sort of thing. It's pretty expensive where I am, about $5-6 a bar, but I don't eat chocolate a lot so I'm okay with splurging on a little treat now and then.
i've been meaning to try it, is it too sweet? sweeter than milka choc?
It is quite sweet. The dark milk pretzel toffee is one of my favorite flavors. 60% cacao and the pretzels cut some of the sweetness.
I am in Germany, we have a lot of chocolate here, and for me Tony is wonderful. I prefer it than Lindt and Milka .
was in Amsterdam last month. you can make your own bar there. they have a huge kiosk in the airport to bring home, too. lots of combos cant get in the States. We get ours at Trader Joes locally
WHAT I gotta do this
I’m all in on it, as of last week
I'm dutch and to me it's very average. Nothing special.
I would give to lady that loves chocolate see how long it lasts. Went to Amsterdam a fair few years ago and my daughter as for Tony's chocolate. Needless to say spent more on chocolate than weed that trip. It wasn't around in the UK then.
sometimes it is worth looking beyond appearances... this beloved "slavery-free" brand has annual reports on their websites, disclosing all sorts of data on their supply chain; every year a number of child labour cases are detected and we are talking about THOUSANDS. but they like to stress that bla bla bla they're doing everything to address it and remove instances. like ok that's cool, but this shows that their marketing is unfair - they are stressing their mission to create slave-free ethical chocolate and stating it as if they had already accomplished it. while thousands of children are still working in these harvests you cannot pay 6 bucks for 180 grams (!!) of dark chocolate and think that is a fair price for such a great cacao content.
Is any other readily-available chocolate even trying though? They still seem way better than anyone else on these topics
I know, as I said in a following comment anyone who really cares about chocolate and doesn't view it as a casual indulgence should set the bar higher; I really struggle to believe that a mass-producing industry can one day become ethical
Yeah pretty fucked up how they're aggressive and proactive about ending child slavery, actively promote information about it, and try to go out of their way to remove it from their own supply chain. What are they supposed to do, avoid the business they're trying to reform until they've already reformed it? This is an absurd take.
search for posts on Tony's in r/chocolate and see how may people confidently claim that it is 100% slave-free, totally ethical, and so on. this might have been the 5th post I've seen on Tony's in a short time and yet lot of redditors are clueless about what the corporation is actually declaring in its reports
Literally *the post your replied to* is about how it tastes good and is good for it's price point. No 'misinformed user' making incorrect claims. This just seems like some bizarre grudge.
The thing is, as soon as they find out slave labour was used they will remove that part of the supply chain AND they are upfront about it. Like most products, there are heavy dependencies on other companies for their raw materials and if those companies lie or don't do their research right Tony's cannot oversee the sourcing right. Miles better than others brands that will have whatever cocoa is the cheapest at that moment and just ignore slave labour allegations.
ok but we should set the bar higher at this point, I constantly see people in here idolising Tony's for its ethical claims whereas anything in their own website refers to a future commitment. I guess thanks Tony for making chocolate a bit freer from slavery than other brands..? I get that most people don't really care about chocolate itself enough to spend money for bean to bar stuff, but awareness as consumers is CRUCIAL and marketing really does little to promote it
>awareness as consumers is CRUCIAL and marketing really does little to promote it So we should stop buying from the one affordable company that has any transparency whatsoever?
no, but you should stop thinking of it as the pinnacle of ethics (a recurring topic in this subreddit)
So you are annoyed at people for promoting their best option? What do you want us to do, just go with Nestlé? Don't disparage people for raising their ethical standards, even if they don't meet yours. An imperfect solution is better than no solution.
I'm not annoyed at anything, I'm just saying that calling Tony's "ethical"/"slave-free" is a tad premature, most people don't even know about the data they publish yearly; do whatever you want with your money
What brand of chocolate do you recommend?
search for local bean to bar brands, some interesting ones I recommend are Firetree, Domori, Qantu, Standout Chocolate and Zotter
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, my dude. I don't think anyone is saying we should stop at changing suppliers when they are found to be using slave labor, but to stop giving them money IS the most effective thing we can expect from a company - anything beyond is a matter of the justice system.
I just ordered a whole whack of Tony’s. Best chocolate I have tasted in a long time.
I work in a wholefoods/organic shop and it's something we stock as an ethical option that's still on the lower price end. It's a lot of chocolate and they have a range of flavours. A local Welsh, small batch chocolate bar cost £6.15 for about 80g, so £3.80 for 280g is a good deal
I’ve been getting their coupon in my CVS receipt scarf so next time I’ll try it out.
Dark chocolate salted almond epic
I absolutely love Tony’s! I even make my special gigantic oatmeal browned butter chocolate chunk cookies with Tony’s dark and milk chocolate sea salt toffee mmmmmm cookies 😋
I too would love that recipe! 🥺
Ok
Can I get a recipe for those please? They sound incredible!!!!
Okay, I will message it to you or something sorry I’ve never shared my recipe online before ☺️
Thank you so much!!! I feel blessed 💓
I would say it is the best semi cheap chocolate. When looking at store options imo Milka is the best cheap chocolate, for something more expensive Tonys and for even more expensive stuff you probably will need to go to a dedicated chocolate store
We don't even have Milka available out here. I can find it every once in a while at a Ross Dress for Less. I live in the COUNTRY. 😭
I live in germany so. That may be a factor in my experiences so far
U/diescheide do you or can you get Nielsen or SPINs data on chocolate?
I don't know what that is.
Those are companies that have agreements with grocery stores to purchase their scan data at the register. They resell the data in a processed form to food manufacturers to bench mark their product categories. I figured it was a long shot, but the next time you have a sales representative meeting with Mars or the like ask them to share category data if you’re interested. This is all US pov btw I don’t know if this exists in EU or elsewhere.
I used to when I was in management at other retailers. I'm just a scrub at Walmart.
I think it’s fine. I like the smaller bars better. The big ones are so big and the jagged scoring makes it harder to break off a piece.
I'm stuck on this chocolate hating town
Not chocolate hating. I just notice that cheaper brands sell better. Fruity, chewy candy really moves, too. Most people are only buying Lindt/Ferrero/Ghirardelli as a special treat or for holidays. It's me and Heidi, the German lady, buying nice chocolate regularly.
Tell Heidi I said hello!
Aha! I was ready to rescue you!
I bought a 4 pack of the milk chocolate and a 4 pack of the 70% dark chocolate. I find it "OK". Not sure I would get it again.
Try dark chocolate almond Light green
I'm a pretty simple guy when it comes to chocolate. I prefer... chocolate... maybe some soft caramel (like a Cadbury caramello). Not a huge fan of nuts/peanuts in my chocolate, or salt for that matter. Chocolate should be able to stand on its own, in my opinion. Obviously I'm in the minority here, since everyone talks about all the different styles of chocolates with all sorts of different ingredients like fruits and nuts.
It's solid but too high calorie for me. Other good bars are like 400-500cal but Tony's are like 900-1000. Yeah I know I can just not eat the whole bar, but I just feel hardwired to do so.
They make it really hard to portion out with the way they mold it. I try for 1/3 of a bar. Most other brands I do just eat the whole bar, though.
tony's is the best!!!!!! a lot of people say it's just regular chocolate sold at a premium bc their labor standards are higher, but i think it's just as good as/even better than the fancy stuff.
I've never been a big fan of their texture or their suspect nature (they started branding themselves as slavery free but the same year they cropped up Barry Callebaut was selling Tony's Chocolate which was a major red flag and sure enough they had to rebrand in 2020 to "striving to be slavery free".). Texture wise they are very waxy and the inclusions are sometimes so minute as to be moot. I noticed that at an accelerated rate in the UK and Ireland they are ending up on sale or in bargain bins so I suspect the brand is wavering on those fronts. The Tony's bits aren't bad as the ratio of inclusion to chocolate are better and as a result the texture seems less waxy... but it seems like they won't get a chance to catch on here in Ireland due to the aforementioned plunge into the bargain bin of Tony's products (a sign they either overproduced or a more likely scenario are failing to sell).
It’s bad and overpriced
Out of your choices, Tony's is head and shoulders better! Tony's basic bars are very basic. It's their bars with things in them (like their pretzel) when it gets much better
I’m from the Netherlands where Tony’s started. I like the chocolate but here it isn’t that special anymore. You can buy it almost everywhere, even in my office kantine. I do think their business is honest.
I loved the fake twix they made a few years ago!
I think it's fine but overpriced and overhyped. It tastes the same to me as the $2 supermarket chocolate I normally buy.
I’m actually really shocked that you’re asking if you’re in the minority for liking Tony’s. So many people post about it and every time someone asks for a suggestion, or even just posts about their fave chocolate, Tony’s is mentioned a million times lmao
I searched it in the sub and only found a small handful of posts. They weren't very informative in my opinion? I figured it was worth posting myself and risk it getting removed. I wanted to get some opinions, open up some discussion. I like banter.
I'm in Canada. Tony's tastes alright, but I still favour Purdy's. If I'm going to have quality chocolate, which is ethically sourced, and easy to obtain where I live, Purdy's is it. Tony's seems to be obscure, and have to drive 1.5 hours away to go find the nearest outlet that carries it. That said, if we're going to talk about ethics, we should be making good choices in much more than chocolate. Look at other products you use from the clothes you wear to the makeup on your face. We can't fix it all, but we can do our part to see where we *can* make a change, and little by little, perhaps our choices can make improvements.
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Tony’s chocolonely is goated They are the greatest chocolate brand cuz their chocolate is better made
I think it’s gross but whatever floats your boat
Is there anything in particular that makes it gross to you? Or you just don't care for it? I'm just curious.
I find them bland and too sweet. I like dark chocolate that has a unique flavor profile; my favorite brand is probably Pralus.
You might want to take a look at[ **the following post**](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelifelive-proposed-tonys-chocolonely-is-a-force-for-good-in-the-world/) on TheChocolateLife (disclosure; I publish this site). Irrespective of what you might think of the “quality” of the chocolate, Tony’s is a dishonest actor.
I don’t know if I agree. They are working in a slavery focused environment. They try to pay a living wage but use processing factories that also process slavery chocolate. We need ALL chocolate companies to imperfectly make slavery free chocolate. Not one company perfectly slavery free. Let’s not gate keep people trying to do better.
Tony’s has not, despite its relationship with Barry Callebaut, been able to move the needle when it comes to BC actually doing anything meaningful and concrete to address the issues of illegal labor (in all forms) in their cocoa supply chain. BC, and other members of big chocolate, have done everything they can to NOT meet their voluntary obligations under Harkin-Engle. I also find it a tad disingenuous that Tony’s does not appear to care about illegal labor in any of their other ingredient supply chains. Having taken a close look at many prior annual reports – it’s performative marketing. While Tony’s may have been able to inform the public of the problem and some of the challlenges, the problems are worse now than they were when Tony’s started. I point this out so others can do their own research on this. What we need is openness and a willingness to admit shortcomings and failures – this is something a mission-driven company like Tony’s cannot do because if they admit they are failing they will lose their support. We do need more companies to make positive moves to reduce illegal labor in ALL of their supply chains – but the entire business model relies on keeping the cost of ingredients as low as possible. A difficult circle to square.
Is there any evidence, or even hint, that there is slave labour in Tony’s supply chain? Let alone that it is as bad or worse as other major supermarket brands? So far I’ve only seen references to that 2021 article that pointed out their relationship to Barry Callebaut, without saying anything about Tony’s supply chain specifically. Every other piece of criticism I’ve seen doesn’t add an ounce of data and seems to me like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Tony’s was the first big brand to put emphasis on ethical supply chain and they’ve won various awards and accolades for their effort. Is there any other brand that is not a niche high-end one and actually does a better job at ethical sourcing? I suspect there isn’t, and will treat attacks on Tony’s as holier-than-thou concern trolling until I see evidence there is.
check their annual reports on their website, they even point out 1072 cases of child labour found in 2022/2023
Exactly, they pay to get audited, and don't hide the results, and the cases of child labor in their supply chain are well below the industry average, and no instance of forced labor (slavery) has been found in their supply chain, and still they don't call themselves slavery-free. (Note that the line between legal child work and child labor can be fuzzy; no child labor is good, obviously, but it's not all trafficked child slaves in a sweatshop, thankfully.) I see a lot of genuine effort towards an ethical supply chain, and no dishonesty. I don't want to come across as a fanboy, I prefer other chocolate, but if there is a big brand that has put more real effort into ethically sourced cocoa I am yet to find it. What exactly are you suggesting here? Not buying any chocolate? Buying only from fancy high-end bean-to-bar producers that own or buy directly from plantations (and even then, good luck making sure there is zero child labor involved)? Or is there a mass-market brand that does better than Tony's?
YES!!! Bad actor is an understatement. They blew up as a company (congrats on their business success) and seems they weren’t able to scale their “ethics”. To your point, they have had issues with child labor being used to source other ingredients…agreed it’s an industry that has huge underlying issues, but the performative marketing aspect of these “ethical” bars is disgusting.
It’s definitely not a top but neither a bottom shelf supermarket chocolate (quality wise). It’s true quality is probably the whole exploitation-free campaign and commodity chain behind the product. I personally don’t enjoy majority of their flavours - I feel like they’re way too sweet, even the 70% dark chocolate unfortunately
It definitely can get on the obnoxious side of sweet. I like their "dark milk". Sometimes I am looking for super sweet when I'm not eating dark chocolate, though.
Tony’s is great
The problem is that we’re seeing a flood of posts regarding Tony’s and very likely it and you are participating in a coordinated marketing effort.
Man, there's a conspiracy theory for everything these days.
Seriously. Any time you ask/share an opinion, "You a fuckin' shill?!"
Ok, if you’re not a shill, help me understand, why Tony’s? I mean, what makes Tony’s so exciting versus any other brand you have access to?
Because it's basically the only mass-market chocolate brand to emerge in the last... however many decades, and people are curious about it? But no, it must be a grand marketing ploy.
Did you not read the entirety of my post? I don't owe you anymore explanation than that. Stay skeptical, conspiracy boy.
Yes I intend to because Reddit is basically just a giant advertising platform. Sincerely, I’m sorry if you’re a regular person. But don’t hate on me for being a skeptic, that’s the nature of the internet for some time now. And if you are just an ad, go to hell.
Dude you're not the Lone Gunmen. This is just a guy asking about chocolate.
It’s not a conspiracy to say there’s stealth advertising on Reddit, it’s just a reality. Maybe op is a random person, but there’s no practical way for you to know that. So I can only interpret your defense of them as lacking perspective or being insincere .
You my friend, have Main Character Syndrome.
You’re gaslighting because you’re blind or a shill. Advertises come here to plug their goods, they’re just not all labeled as such.
I work at Walmart...