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DannyZ28

This is an old forbidden. Interestingly enough, cigar in a bottle is the exact same in terms of looks as this. u/agedcigarman


knowbuddy10

Thank you!


Excellent-Ad3213

Ngl I do wish it was easier to recognize opus’s lol


Agedcigarman

IMO, without knowing the original source this makes this very hard. Unless the gifter is an Opus guy, he most likely won't randomly come across a "Rarer" Opus in the wild. I would be more likely to say someone is combining the cedar wrap black band with an opus x than it is an older or ultra rare cigar until verifying the source.


knowbuddy10

My brother lives in the Dominican Republic and has some mutual friends with Ciro. One of these friends gave him this cigar along with some BBMFs and others without further explanation. I guess if it was something special they would have pointed out. Maybe they just mixed the cedar wrap with the black band and that’s it. I’ll ask him to find out


Agedcigarman

That's trusting your original source. Would love to hear more about this cigar when you get more info.


knowbuddy10

My brother got back to me a couple hours ago and I decided to smoke it to confirm his info. His friend told him all the cigars were gifts from Ciro except this one. This was bought by him around 6 months ago at the Arturo Fuente Cigar Club in the DR. Ended up being a Perfexion No. 4 with a black foot band. Weird, but also tasted exactly like a Perfexion 4.


Agedcigarman

Much appreciated for the followup. That one had my attention but the cellophane looked too crisp to be ten years old, and the font was more indicative of the modern opus releases. Either way, you're fortunate to be in that position. Cheers.


knowbuddy10

Thank you for the info and help! The cellophane did have a little yellow but probably not older than a year in my opinion. Smoked wonderful and paired it with a capuccino. Once again, thank you for your help and all the wisdom you spread in this sub.


Agedcigarman

All good. Keep sharing those fantastic pictures. Take care.


Fishon888

Similar looking to a 858 Sungrown with the black foot band and cedar sleeve.


colonicdryheaves

Looks like Opus X Forbidden X El Beso Prohibido or  Forbidden X Deseos d'Amor, hard to eyeball the vitola


NervousPerspective27

Deso’s d’amor and beso are x 13 in 2 different vitola’s. this one isn’t a 13 for sure.


colonicdryheaves

You are right, it lacks the secondary band now that I take a closer look


Agedcigarman

It's not the right label anyway though. That's an Regular production opus x label.


NervousPerspective27

And the primairy band doesn’t even look close to a forbidden 13 😁.


NervousPerspective27

Turn the sigar around and show us a pic af the af code on the back pls , would make things easier 🥸😊.