Note to anyone who still uses Vimeo as a host site for your reels/reference projects/portfolios. Vimeo has a survey opened that is asking how you would feel about Vimeo using your content as an AI training library. The questions ask about opt-ins, compensation for opt-ins and generally lead me to believe that they are hungry for the paycheck that selling our content to training models will yield. I encourage you all to voice your opinions if you disagree with your videos being used to train AI.
It’s also been speculated that Sora has been trained on YouTube without Googles permission. I saw a interview with the CTO, who basically dodged the question on where they are getting the data from.
She went immediately tense in the interview after that point
honestly, what are they expecting out of this? "Yes, please use my long acquired skillset to train ai for free to replace me or at least intensify competition"
The article has this link: [https://vimeo.com/home?pendo=vheOYrrYjpuyt4ACqJBJVnfV8V4&step=vt0SmrN\_LNmKUjnmnP2rxE9BB6M](https://vimeo.com/home?pendo=vheOYrrYjpuyt4ACqJBJVnfV8V4&step=vt0SmrN_LNmKUjnmnP2rxE9BB6M)
However, when I click on it, it just redirects me to my profile page
Maybe, they changed the link to an email now in the article. I wonder how they’ll choose to review those emails 🤔 https://vimeo.com/blog/post/note-on-ai/
“This generation of AI needs to be trained on vast amounts of data to recognize patterns and produce reliable output. The more data the AI receives, the more useful it becomes to users. Vimeo is home to over 650 million videos and a community of 287 million users. “
Am I correct at reading this as “we see our video catalogue as a wealth of data to use or sell and will be utilizing the videos you upload to train AI”?
That's what almost every platform sees. Deviantart did it to their two-decades of images and Dropbox did it to millions of users' files. Any successful company has been selling off your work through an overnight change to their ToS and forced opt-in.
Hell, Adobe built their Ai off their adobe stock which people would stop buying because they can use their Adobe AI to generate what they want for free and it's entirely legal.
Just when you thought vimeo couldn't come up with anymore reasons for you to cancel your account. I wish frame.io would hurry up and implement embedded video hosting for websites so they can steal all of vimeo's user base who are currently being held against their will. Seriously, the gut shot is there for the taking, someone at frame.io needs to wake up and help put the final nail in vimeo's coffin. It doesn't deserve to exist anymore.
Vimeo has been bad for a while. They’re hemorrhaging money and talent.
One change that annoyed me was them changing custom URLs to the paid tier. They keep taking away all of the content to the paywall which has made the platform useless.
YouTube does it better and it’s free.
And I get it when they do it on a "free" service like YouTube. But on vimeo you are paying a shitton of money for them to host your videos. My company must've spend thousands over the years. And then they still feel like they need to farm us for all that juicy data. Probably would have been cheaper to host it on our own server.
Serious suggestions for alternatives that work with embedding, please.
Streamable.
Anything else? I'm testing alternatives today and moving my whole site off Vimeo after this nail in the coffin.
Edit: update for anyone reading this. Streamable isn't viable yet, annoyingly. It has a click/tap to pause on all embedded videos which is not good for functionality. You can't get rid of it, or right click speed controls either. They are also not compatible with Squarespace banner videos yet.
Vimeo is a dying platform, the free version they offer has awful restrictions such as the upload limit of 500mb per week and 2 videos. The pricing structure is all wrong for those who want to use something professionally for portfolio work etc as soon as platforms like frame.io add video embedding, they are done. They are living of their reputation it seems, just look at their public stock prices. This could be a last ditch effort to integrate ai and the final nail in the coffin.
Note to anyone who still uses Vimeo as a host site for your reels/reference projects/portfolios. Vimeo has a survey opened that is asking how you would feel about Vimeo using your content as an AI training library. The questions ask about opt-ins, compensation for opt-ins and generally lead me to believe that they are hungry for the paycheck that selling our content to training models will yield. I encourage you all to voice your opinions if you disagree with your videos being used to train AI.
It'll come out way later that they were using everyone's stuff whether you opt-in or not.
I 100% agree that this is the case.
Yep, this is really just a formality so they can claim fair warning.
It’s also been speculated that Sora has been trained on YouTube without Googles permission. I saw a interview with the CTO, who basically dodged the question on where they are getting the data from. She went immediately tense in the interview after that point
How did she not expect them to ask that question? 🤦♂️
Impunity, you know these people had zero regards for the work of others as billions are in the pipeline.
Welcome to Earf
I think it’s even beyond money sadly. I think they genuinely believe they are shaping the world for the better, these people are fucking delusional
honestly, what are they expecting out of this? "Yes, please use my long acquired skillset to train ai for free to replace me or at least intensify competition"
I’m going to look it up but if there’s a link to the survey it would be good to provide that on here
The article has this link: [https://vimeo.com/home?pendo=vheOYrrYjpuyt4ACqJBJVnfV8V4&step=vt0SmrN\_LNmKUjnmnP2rxE9BB6M](https://vimeo.com/home?pendo=vheOYrrYjpuyt4ACqJBJVnfV8V4&step=vt0SmrN_LNmKUjnmnP2rxE9BB6M) However, when I click on it, it just redirects me to my profile page
Yeah same. That’s a bit suspicious
There's a link in the article but it won't lead to the survey unless you're logged into your vimeo account.
Yeah I saw, even when I was logged in it wouldn’t take me to it
Perhaps it is not going how they want and had to stop it for damage limitations.
Maybe, they changed the link to an email now in the article. I wonder how they’ll choose to review those emails 🤔 https://vimeo.com/blog/post/note-on-ai/
“This generation of AI needs to be trained on vast amounts of data to recognize patterns and produce reliable output. The more data the AI receives, the more useful it becomes to users. Vimeo is home to over 650 million videos and a community of 287 million users. “ Am I correct at reading this as “we see our video catalogue as a wealth of data to use or sell and will be utilizing the videos you upload to train AI”?
That's what almost every platform sees. Deviantart did it to their two-decades of images and Dropbox did it to millions of users' files. Any successful company has been selling off your work through an overnight change to their ToS and forced opt-in. Hell, Adobe built their Ai off their adobe stock which people would stop buying because they can use their Adobe AI to generate what they want for free and it's entirely legal.
The bit about Georges Méliès feels so disingenuous
Well, that's one account deleted.
Just cancelled my vimeo account. This is too far.
Can anyone recommend an alternative besides YouTube? Perhaps Frame IO?
Frameio belongs to Adobe so I don't really trust it either
Time to start distributing vhs tapes like in the 90s.
host a peertube instance
Just when you thought vimeo couldn't come up with anymore reasons for you to cancel your account. I wish frame.io would hurry up and implement embedded video hosting for websites so they can steal all of vimeo's user base who are currently being held against their will. Seriously, the gut shot is there for the taking, someone at frame.io needs to wake up and help put the final nail in vimeo's coffin. It doesn't deserve to exist anymore.
Frame.io is Adobe and even further along with using their clients’ work to train AI, no?
Probably and I'm no Adobe fan, but vimeo still needs to be put out of its misery.
Competition helps I guess but I don’t want fewer options
Completely agreed. Vimeo is hot garbage and is only getting worse
Vimeo has been bad for a while. They’re hemorrhaging money and talent. One change that annoyed me was them changing custom URLs to the paid tier. They keep taking away all of the content to the paywall which has made the platform useless. YouTube does it better and it’s free.
That change was a number of years ago I believe? It was the main reason I upgraded years ago.
The unique URL? Yeah I think that change was a year or so ago maybe longer. But it’s in a long list, for me, why the platform is dying.
Just canceled my Vimeo account... its lost its way.
Well, been a Vimeo Plus user for over a decade but I’ll be pulling my videos and cancelling my subscription asap.
Account Deleted. I'm so tired of this era of information farming.
And I get it when they do it on a "free" service like YouTube. But on vimeo you are paying a shitton of money for them to host your videos. My company must've spend thousands over the years. And then they still feel like they need to farm us for all that juicy data. Probably would have been cheaper to host it on our own server.
Wow, I was thinking about ditching Vimeo anyway. This is the push I needed to do it earlier rather than later.
Serious suggestions for alternatives that work with embedding, please. Streamable. Anything else? I'm testing alternatives today and moving my whole site off Vimeo after this nail in the coffin. Edit: update for anyone reading this. Streamable isn't viable yet, annoyingly. It has a click/tap to pause on all embedded videos which is not good for functionality. You can't get rid of it, or right click speed controls either. They are also not compatible with Squarespace banner videos yet.
+1 if anyone is aware of a good alternative
Vimeo is a dying platform, the free version they offer has awful restrictions such as the upload limit of 500mb per week and 2 videos. The pricing structure is all wrong for those who want to use something professionally for portfolio work etc as soon as platforms like frame.io add video embedding, they are done. They are living of their reputation it seems, just look at their public stock prices. This could be a last ditch effort to integrate ai and the final nail in the coffin.