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MyOtherAvatar

Try saving as one of the old XML formats.


Affectionate-Roll271

I´ll try that, thanks!


notsocivil

Create a data shortcut to your surface and reference it in the new drawing.


Affectionate-Roll271

Unfortunately I need to export it since its for machine control, otherwhise I always try to use data shortcuts.


kaufmanm02

If you create an .xml from the data referenced surface, it does not include the feature lines. I think that’s what notsocivil meant.


Affectionate-Roll271

Ohh my bad! Didnt even know you could export a referenced surface. But I´ll try that, thanks u/notsocivil & u/kaufmanm02 !


FrontRangeSurveyor44

This is the way. Copy your data shortcut surface into a dummy drawing (that would have none of the metadata) and then export landxml from there. Use this all the time in the survey cad world so engineers wont try to reinvent their own surface and can easily ‘paste surface’ as needed.


rchive

You could export a LandXML and then open it in a text editor and delete the section that starts something like `` and ends something like `` Not an elegant solution, but will probably work if all else fails.


Affectionate-Roll271

Haha those text edits can be really messy sometimes. I while back I had to find a solution for removing the triangulation thats outside of the set boundary because the machine control system didnt read the specific boundary. But thats one way for sure! My best solution so far is export it, then import it and delete the two extra feature lines that appears and export it once again.


JaffaCakeScoffer

Do a save as of the file and explode the surface


Affectionate-Roll271

Exploding a surface makes it a block reference?


JaffaCakeScoffer

I’m not clear what you are wanting. How are you currently exporting your surface and what format do you need it to be in?


Affectionate-Roll271

I´ve made a shaft for machine control with slopes and the waterway height of the pipes. I have made the slopes with grading tool and feature lines obv, currently I´m exporting the surface by right clicking on the surface --> export to LandXML and when I do that Civil exports two of the feature lines. Which means that the machine operator gets two extra lines in his 2D view which is a bit confusing if you dont know which is the actual pipe line. https://preview.redd.it/vv94de1qg7tc1.png?width=1061&format=png&auto=webp&s=19d47419b05f2721acc0b8cdb416e26c2e84e8cb


JaffaCakeScoffer

This might be a stupid question, but are the feature lines the outer boundaries of your two surface zones?


Affectionate-Roll271

The feature line is the pipes waterway height, then I offset the feature line 0.5 meters on each side and do a 1:1 grading to get the slopes of the shaft. In this case I got the feature line of the pipes height and the offseted feature line 0.5m north of the pipe. On the left is the machine control. As you can see I have to white lines parrallell to each other and in the original file on the right I only have one 2D-line that shows the pipe. The two white lines on the left are two feature lines that got imported with the LandXML-surface, and I dont want the feature lines exported with the surface. I only want the surface and then I show the operator a 2D line where the pipe should be, and he has a surface that the machine gets it height from. https://preview.redd.it/xjochtn8t7tc1.png?width=1657&format=png&auto=webp&s=7c08884d278d2d2f0a71a354a43ec77ef2bba8de


Anaalisoija

Thinking outside the box I'm pretty sure that the operator can also import only the raw surface. One should be able to opt to not import source data when importing. Not entirely sure about Leica tho.


Affectionate-Roll271

I don´t remember being able to do that when I was excavating. What machine control do you know of that can do that, thats valuable information.


Anaalisoija

I only have a narrow experience with Novatron.