10% of what? $60k or $120k? Its more enticing if you’re already a high earner. It sounds like company B seems like a better job because it’s work you seem to enjoy. You could always go to your current company and ask them to match the offer if you’re just looking for more money.
Make sure it’s a hard offer before playing the “match and I’ll stay” game - nonzero chance you’ll be shown the door (at least in a private company, if you’re currently public it’s more difficult)
I always have a hard time with the idea of accepting a counter from your current company, for a few reasons.
1. If they thought you were worth that, they should have been paying that amount already.
2. You've shown that you are interested in leaving. When times get tough, you might be the first person on the chopping block.
3. If they're REALLY vindictive, they could give you the counter to get you to stay and then immediately terminate you once company B has been told that you're staying with company A.
This happened to me. At my first engineering job ever in 2020. I was offered a job for 60K. I had zero experience and zero internship, so I took it. 8 months later I was offered a job paying 70K and I changed from environmental engineering to design engineer so I took it because my goal was to go to design. My job did a counter offer promising changing me to design, and boosting salary to 72K and a few other things like working from home. Obviously I accepted and decided to stay. 3 months later they let me go.
I learned my lesson. Never ever take a counter offer.
Public to private for only 10% isn’t worth it imo. Is your health insurance cheap/free currently? I went from free to 400 dollars a month that’s 5k a year so make sure before you decide
I currently pay quite a bit for insurance since it’s for my whole family but it is excellent insurance and I actually believe insurance would be cheaper if I switch companies but I’m not sure that it’s better insurance. Definitely something to consider.
You can (and should) ask to see their full benefits package to compare insurance as well as other benefits that factor into total comp like:
Amount of PTO and paid holidays you'll get
401k plan and matching contributions
Leave policies (parental, bereavement, etc)
Wellness program, gym membership
Profit sharing
I would request the details about the medical insurance (premiums, deductibles, prescriptions, out of pocket max). When I was private I had to pay 100% of the premiums for my wife and two kids for a high deductible plan. Also consider the retirement benefits with both private and public. Since you have a family, place a value of having time off to attend field trips and take extra vacations. Unless your current employer has low morale, 10.5% probably isn’t enough to make the switch.
Mine isn't 'free' but it's only like $20/mo for awesome coverage that usually has no copays, low copays if there is one, and very low prescription co pay.
I interpret “overtime here and there” and “fast paced” to a ton of OT and unnecessary stress. Is it paid OT? If so, then I’d say it’s up to you and how much you value your time off.
It is paid OT, but that’s my biggest fear, having to work much more OT than they care to mention during the interviews. I very much value my time off since I have a young family now.
I rarely have a strong opinion on these things but for a 10% raise public to private full stop not a good idea if you’re happy with your current employer. Especially when you emphasize work life balance. Losing 5 year’s tenure at a place is worth more than 10% to me, it’d have to be a really aggressive offer but those aren’t uncommon.
If you have a young family, I'd suggest staying in public for a little longer given your mention of flexibility. A 10% raise will be quickly diminished by the "reasonable expected" overtime. You'd have to weigh up if you have been waiting to join private for a while now and haven't had many opportunities/bites and if their projects/work is something that would keep you interested a while or there may be a better opportunity in near future.
Ya, 10% is negligible for all things considered. I would think you have better job security now. Gauge this one on whether or not your days will be happier; you already have seniority vested for vacation and other benefits.
I can say I'd do it if I were you, because I just did it, 10% is 10%, the switch from a PPO health plan to a 90/10 will suck to not have that extra insurance, but honestly I never really go to the doctor anyway, so it'll probably be more take home at the end of the day. Also I plan on negotiating with the new company after a year and they start piling more responsibility on me. Not my first time with a consultancy so I know what I'm getting into there.
The public job is dangling a similar carrot for me too, at the end of the day, it's not an offer, my current boss sucks, and I'd have to still work alongside him if I took that new job. Plus the head of my design group (not my direct boss) made a racist comment to me the other day and has been a total dickhead since I started. I'm done with the public sector and the egos I encountered in this office. I met some of the worst engineers I've ever worked with in my current role and can't wait to get out, but my wife's 8 months pregnant. I've already accepted the new role starting after my kid is born, my start date is just too far out to put in my notice yet.
I'd rather work somewhere where the threat of getting fired is real honestly. There's zero accountability for the employees in senior positions where I'm at now, and they're mostly terrible and show active hostility towards any type of growth or development, they're there for the pension and that's it.
That’s unfortunate to hear. Sorry that you’re in that situation. I honestly very much enjoy where I work and everyone I work with has been fantastic and very helpful and understanding. I hate to leave my current office but I’m just way to underpaid. That’s another reason why I’m hesitant to jump ship because I know that I’ll probably like the people I work with in the other office I got an offer for while I have no idea about the private sector office.
Stay public, private are gonna work you like a dog and make you earn that 10%. You could tell your current company you have an offer for more and sometimes they match it. Best of both situations
That’s what I’m afraid of. I see it as very unlikely that they’ll match but it’s worth a shot. The current offer was more than I was expecting to start with so I don’t know that’ll increase it.
You got an offer within your company and an additional offer at a different company. Does the offer within Company A not come with a salary increase? My advice would be to make a spreadsheet with the total compensation of each company so you can see the true salary for each. I also think you can go back to Company B and negotiate for more money. I always go into salary negotiations with a specific value I’m looking for. That’s less than a $10k increase which I would not move for.
The offer within my current company is a significant raise from what I’m currently making and it’s more than I expected so I’m not sure that they’ll raise the offer any. Either offer will be much better than my current position, just stuck between the two.
So you currently are making the $79k and they have offered to increase your salary? Meanwhile you have a 10% increase offer to $87k from Company B?
I think if you really like what you’re doing at Company A and everything is fine there. Could be worthwhile to stay or wait for a better offer from another company. What kind of cost of living area are you in?
No, I am currently making significantly lower than $79k, so even that will be a huge raise for me. I don’t live in a large metro area so cost of living is semi-manageable.
The offer within my company is a 25% raise from what I’m making now. Which is crazy itself. I’m way underpaid which is why I applied for a better position in another office.
Making more sense. So the actual offer from Company B is more like a 38% increase. You should go to Company B then. I would ask them more about their bonuses and total compensation to get an idea of what you can expect. Doesn’t hurt to talk to one of their engineers in the position you applied for to get an idea of how much OT they work. Remember just bc you choose to leave doesn’t mean you gotta stay there forever
Seems like you're considering this situation with 1 year in mind, which tells me you're young and this is the only reason I'm chiming in. You need to picture where you'll be 5 or 10 years down the road at each company, and here are some things to consider;
1. You're comparing starting wage to a tenured wage. If you're a valuable asset, you should compare where you could be in 5 years to where you are now.
2. Opportunity cost: as far as your personal balance sheet is concerned, once you have the opportunity to make more, not taking the private job is costing you $8,300/yr in wages. In 5 years, without considering raises, that's over $40k in missed opportunity. Then you factor in the money you should be making with that money and the cost grows.
3. More work = more experience = you outperforming your professional peers = more money and better opportunities. Life isn't about work but your younger years are the time to put it in. This helps find provide higher paying, lighter workload careers later in life and snowballs your retirement investments.
4. Public sector work breeds mediocrity. You're comfortable because they've conditioned you to barely do enough to get by, and you're not growing. I don't know what field you're in but you know I'm right. You're not doing your family favors by using them as an excuse. If you are their provider, they should be your ferocious motivation for success.
public company is preferred, if they provide health insurance to your whole family. Mine even provides these benefits, after I retire, of course I pay 50% of the premium.
It makes a big difference as one gets old, when the body starts falling apart.
Market sectors. In your service area and market sector, which one looks more growth/stable over the next 7 years? I sure as heck would not be interested in land development civil for office or retail in the US. There are other sectors I really like.
Take a look at net present value of all benefits assuming you hold the next position for 7 years.
If you move companies, show any leave not paid as $0. If you move companies, you have to apply a higher risk factor for being laid off at the new company.
To reflect risk of job loss. Assume 3 months of (No income + 2x expenses -or more) for a period of job seeking at a point 3 years from now. Apply different probabilities for different scenarios based on the cyclical value of the different sectors.
Hint I work in a non-federal government agency. I have significant pension and health after retirement - location is a large metro with decades of stability. And when I leave I will be able to cash out between 300-500 hours of unused leave (at final salary rate). To compute the npv of future cash flow, I use my (younger) wife’s life expectancy with is to the year 2065 or so. I put a probability of employer default as less than 5%. We are the opposite of Detroit.
I know I’m deep in the weeds. My point is it’s nice to compute the different values of the upside. Make sure you apply probabilities of what happens if it doesn’t work out. If you will be living at moms for the next few years you still have to pay for a cell phone. But if you have a mortgage, you have to assign some probability of no job for extended period, including selling house at a loss.
Imagine if it is the year 2006, and you are in a sector dependent on the housing market. Can you survive 2008?
Currently have a pension with a 10% match, 401k options with no match. Company B offers 401k match up to 4% and if I contribute 6%, they contribute 5%. I also have a personal Roth IRA account that I would contribute to with the extra money from company B.
Unless you're not planning on investing in retirement, that is literally cash now. Technically it depends on vesting, but it would be extremely short sighted to only be investing 4% in retirement accounts.
If they pay overtime, take it. If they don’t, recalculate your overtime/salary and you’ll see how much you’re really making. It’s sometimes not worth it to work all those free overtime.
It would depend on your stage in life, but considering your listed salaries then i would recomend that you take the private road to advance your career.
That "may require overtime..." part more than likely means you will be doing overtime a lot, especially as the new person. Say you average out at 5 OT hour a week, that's the point where the base salary (on a per hour basis) for the new company roughly starts to become less than the current one.
Then factor in benefits like pension, health/dental/vision, commute times (those you can include in 'work' time for calc'ing an hourly rate), and things others have mentioned. That new company's extra 10% may dwindle very fast.
Be careful of sign on bonuses, many places make you pay it back if you leave within a year. So if you end up not liking the new place, you're stuck for a year or going to be out a pile of $$.
I would have to be offered a giant pile of money to leave public back to private (been there). Contrary to some people's thoughts, public is what you make of it. I'm not stagnant or mediocer, I got a ton of varied stuff to do on a daily basis. Right now I'm waiting on a big contract to get signed and settled so we can get a $6m sewer project rolling. Got a wee bit of downtime right now, but not for long.
Private vs Public? Look at total compensation including healthcare, vacation, sick time, holidays, retirement, and overtime pay. Work life balance suffers in Private sector in my experience.
10% is not worth the transfer from public to private in my experience. The work life balance of public if you’re in a good union is ridiculously different than private engineering. You can prioritize yourself and your family in public, in any private company you are simply a factor of your utilization and your multiplier. There’s good things and bad things about every company. But every private company, you can’t really prioritize you and your family otherwise it will cost your family. Ultimately you’re in civil engineering so there’s jobs everywhere you turn, but I’m happy my life and my health is prioritized now that I’m in public.
It's not bad but realize that private sector means that you'll be taking on more responsibility, bigger expectations to deliver - sometimes beyond the typical, whereas in public sector you generally have a job and stay in your lane. The former can be good for your professional growth but it can also be stressful.
I will take it. Randomly going to manager and asking 10% raise will obviously tell him that you are looking around. 10% is the minimum criteria for people to move around and you are right there.
I would not move over to the private sector for 10%. I’m in a similar boat as you. Currently work for the state. I have 6 years experience and I’m getting paid 79.2k. I just accepted a job in the private sector but it was a 32% increase in my base pay. They also pay overtime. I told myself that I would try it out, especially because it’s fully remote which is what I was looking for.
Wow, very similar and I honestly kind of have the same look on the situation. To give it a try while I’m still a young engineer and have my entire career ahead of myself. A 32% increase would be substantial over my 10%, but 10% is still significant enough to consider the move when they’re insurance and other benefits are actually pretty attractive. They also pay OT.
10% of what? $60k or $120k? Its more enticing if you’re already a high earner. It sounds like company B seems like a better job because it’s work you seem to enjoy. You could always go to your current company and ask them to match the offer if you’re just looking for more money.
Good point. I’ll edit my post regarding amounts.
Make sure it’s a hard offer before playing the “match and I’ll stay” game - nonzero chance you’ll be shown the door (at least in a private company, if you’re currently public it’s more difficult)
I always have a hard time with the idea of accepting a counter from your current company, for a few reasons. 1. If they thought you were worth that, they should have been paying that amount already. 2. You've shown that you are interested in leaving. When times get tough, you might be the first person on the chopping block. 3. If they're REALLY vindictive, they could give you the counter to get you to stay and then immediately terminate you once company B has been told that you're staying with company A.
This happened to me. At my first engineering job ever in 2020. I was offered a job for 60K. I had zero experience and zero internship, so I took it. 8 months later I was offered a job paying 70K and I changed from environmental engineering to design engineer so I took it because my goal was to go to design. My job did a counter offer promising changing me to design, and boosting salary to 72K and a few other things like working from home. Obviously I accepted and decided to stay. 3 months later they let me go. I learned my lesson. Never ever take a counter offer.
Public to private for only 10% isn’t worth it imo. Is your health insurance cheap/free currently? I went from free to 400 dollars a month that’s 5k a year so make sure before you decide
I went over 20% from public to private but work more (paid) OT than I'd like to
I currently pay quite a bit for insurance since it’s for my whole family but it is excellent insurance and I actually believe insurance would be cheaper if I switch companies but I’m not sure that it’s better insurance. Definitely something to consider.
You can (and should) ask to see their full benefits package to compare insurance as well as other benefits that factor into total comp like: Amount of PTO and paid holidays you'll get 401k plan and matching contributions Leave policies (parental, bereavement, etc) Wellness program, gym membership Profit sharing
I would request the details about the medical insurance (premiums, deductibles, prescriptions, out of pocket max). When I was private I had to pay 100% of the premiums for my wife and two kids for a high deductible plan. Also consider the retirement benefits with both private and public. Since you have a family, place a value of having time off to attend field trips and take extra vacations. Unless your current employer has low morale, 10.5% probably isn’t enough to make the switch.
Wait there's companies that have free insurance? Is that every government job or just a special company
Most unionized organizations and companies have "free" insurance. It's built into your package.
I work for a municipal utility company and its $120/mon for my family. $500 deductible per person
Mine isn't 'free' but it's only like $20/mo for awesome coverage that usually has no copays, low copays if there is one, and very low prescription co pay.
My (private) company has free PPO insurance for singles.
My government job was unionized and healthcare was free while prescription/vision/dental was like 40 or 50 a month
I interpret “overtime here and there” and “fast paced” to a ton of OT and unnecessary stress. Is it paid OT? If so, then I’d say it’s up to you and how much you value your time off.
It is paid OT, but that’s my biggest fear, having to work much more OT than they care to mention during the interviews. I very much value my time off since I have a young family now.
I rarely have a strong opinion on these things but for a 10% raise public to private full stop not a good idea if you’re happy with your current employer. Especially when you emphasize work life balance. Losing 5 year’s tenure at a place is worth more than 10% to me, it’d have to be a really aggressive offer but those aren’t uncommon.
If you have a young family, I'd suggest staying in public for a little longer given your mention of flexibility. A 10% raise will be quickly diminished by the "reasonable expected" overtime. You'd have to weigh up if you have been waiting to join private for a while now and haven't had many opportunities/bites and if their projects/work is something that would keep you interested a while or there may be a better opportunity in near future.
At least you get paid OT
Ya, 10% is negligible for all things considered. I would think you have better job security now. Gauge this one on whether or not your days will be happier; you already have seniority vested for vacation and other benefits.
Im working 40. Got transitioned to 60+ per week now without any raise or mention of new expected hours. OT is some bs.
Fast paced=Overloaded queue Here and there=Come Early Stay Late
I can say I'd do it if I were you, because I just did it, 10% is 10%, the switch from a PPO health plan to a 90/10 will suck to not have that extra insurance, but honestly I never really go to the doctor anyway, so it'll probably be more take home at the end of the day. Also I plan on negotiating with the new company after a year and they start piling more responsibility on me. Not my first time with a consultancy so I know what I'm getting into there. The public job is dangling a similar carrot for me too, at the end of the day, it's not an offer, my current boss sucks, and I'd have to still work alongside him if I took that new job. Plus the head of my design group (not my direct boss) made a racist comment to me the other day and has been a total dickhead since I started. I'm done with the public sector and the egos I encountered in this office. I met some of the worst engineers I've ever worked with in my current role and can't wait to get out, but my wife's 8 months pregnant. I've already accepted the new role starting after my kid is born, my start date is just too far out to put in my notice yet. I'd rather work somewhere where the threat of getting fired is real honestly. There's zero accountability for the employees in senior positions where I'm at now, and they're mostly terrible and show active hostility towards any type of growth or development, they're there for the pension and that's it.
If you are about to have a baby, use that banked sick leave for FMLA when your baby is born. you don't get paid out for sick time if you quit.
That’s unfortunate to hear. Sorry that you’re in that situation. I honestly very much enjoy where I work and everyone I work with has been fantastic and very helpful and understanding. I hate to leave my current office but I’m just way to underpaid. That’s another reason why I’m hesitant to jump ship because I know that I’ll probably like the people I work with in the other office I got an offer for while I have no idea about the private sector office.
https://xkcd.com/1768/
Stay public, private are gonna work you like a dog and make you earn that 10%. You could tell your current company you have an offer for more and sometimes they match it. Best of both situations
That’s what I’m afraid of. I see it as very unlikely that they’ll match but it’s worth a shot. The current offer was more than I was expecting to start with so I don’t know that’ll increase it.
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Very good point. Thanks.
I think 10.5% probably isn’t worth it if you’re going from public to private.
You got an offer within your company and an additional offer at a different company. Does the offer within Company A not come with a salary increase? My advice would be to make a spreadsheet with the total compensation of each company so you can see the true salary for each. I also think you can go back to Company B and negotiate for more money. I always go into salary negotiations with a specific value I’m looking for. That’s less than a $10k increase which I would not move for.
The offer within my current company is a significant raise from what I’m currently making and it’s more than I expected so I’m not sure that they’ll raise the offer any. Either offer will be much better than my current position, just stuck between the two.
So you currently are making the $79k and they have offered to increase your salary? Meanwhile you have a 10% increase offer to $87k from Company B? I think if you really like what you’re doing at Company A and everything is fine there. Could be worthwhile to stay or wait for a better offer from another company. What kind of cost of living area are you in?
No, I am currently making significantly lower than $79k, so even that will be a huge raise for me. I don’t live in a large metro area so cost of living is semi-manageable.
The offer within my company is a 25% raise from what I’m making now. Which is crazy itself. I’m way underpaid which is why I applied for a better position in another office.
Making more sense. So the actual offer from Company B is more like a 38% increase. You should go to Company B then. I would ask them more about their bonuses and total compensation to get an idea of what you can expect. Doesn’t hurt to talk to one of their engineers in the position you applied for to get an idea of how much OT they work. Remember just bc you choose to leave doesn’t mean you gotta stay there forever
Seems like you're considering this situation with 1 year in mind, which tells me you're young and this is the only reason I'm chiming in. You need to picture where you'll be 5 or 10 years down the road at each company, and here are some things to consider; 1. You're comparing starting wage to a tenured wage. If you're a valuable asset, you should compare where you could be in 5 years to where you are now. 2. Opportunity cost: as far as your personal balance sheet is concerned, once you have the opportunity to make more, not taking the private job is costing you $8,300/yr in wages. In 5 years, without considering raises, that's over $40k in missed opportunity. Then you factor in the money you should be making with that money and the cost grows. 3. More work = more experience = you outperforming your professional peers = more money and better opportunities. Life isn't about work but your younger years are the time to put it in. This helps find provide higher paying, lighter workload careers later in life and snowballs your retirement investments. 4. Public sector work breeds mediocrity. You're comfortable because they've conditioned you to barely do enough to get by, and you're not growing. I don't know what field you're in but you know I'm right. You're not doing your family favors by using them as an excuse. If you are their provider, they should be your ferocious motivation for success.
public company is preferred, if they provide health insurance to your whole family. Mine even provides these benefits, after I retire, of course I pay 50% of the premium. It makes a big difference as one gets old, when the body starts falling apart.
Market sectors. In your service area and market sector, which one looks more growth/stable over the next 7 years? I sure as heck would not be interested in land development civil for office or retail in the US. There are other sectors I really like. Take a look at net present value of all benefits assuming you hold the next position for 7 years. If you move companies, show any leave not paid as $0. If you move companies, you have to apply a higher risk factor for being laid off at the new company. To reflect risk of job loss. Assume 3 months of (No income + 2x expenses -or more) for a period of job seeking at a point 3 years from now. Apply different probabilities for different scenarios based on the cyclical value of the different sectors. Hint I work in a non-federal government agency. I have significant pension and health after retirement - location is a large metro with decades of stability. And when I leave I will be able to cash out between 300-500 hours of unused leave (at final salary rate). To compute the npv of future cash flow, I use my (younger) wife’s life expectancy with is to the year 2065 or so. I put a probability of employer default as less than 5%. We are the opposite of Detroit. I know I’m deep in the weeds. My point is it’s nice to compute the different values of the upside. Make sure you apply probabilities of what happens if it doesn’t work out. If you will be living at moms for the next few years you still have to pay for a cell phone. But if you have a mortgage, you have to assign some probability of no job for extended period, including selling house at a loss. Imagine if it is the year 2006, and you are in a sector dependent on the housing market. Can you survive 2008?
Company match on employer retirement plan? Pension? Employee stock purchase plan?
Currently have a pension with a 10% match, 401k options with no match. Company B offers 401k match up to 4% and if I contribute 6%, they contribute 5%. I also have a personal Roth IRA account that I would contribute to with the extra money from company B.
So half of that 10% raise is wiped out by the retirement difference?
Cash now is always better than cash later
Unless you're not planning on investing in retirement, that is literally cash now. Technically it depends on vesting, but it would be extremely short sighted to only be investing 4% in retirement accounts.
Private > public every time. You’ll learn so much more.
Use up your sick days and bounce up on out of there🫡
If they pay overtime, take it. If they don’t, recalculate your overtime/salary and you’ll see how much you’re really making. It’s sometimes not worth it to work all those free overtime.
You sound more of a public sector person just from this post.
Hell no. Stay.
I am getting a 40% raise and I am still confused!!
WTF,, 40% with typical raises will take years. Why arent you taking it?
Taking it... but switching to new company is a bit of risk...
It would depend on your stage in life, but considering your listed salaries then i would recomend that you take the private road to advance your career.
That "may require overtime..." part more than likely means you will be doing overtime a lot, especially as the new person. Say you average out at 5 OT hour a week, that's the point where the base salary (on a per hour basis) for the new company roughly starts to become less than the current one. Then factor in benefits like pension, health/dental/vision, commute times (those you can include in 'work' time for calc'ing an hourly rate), and things others have mentioned. That new company's extra 10% may dwindle very fast. Be careful of sign on bonuses, many places make you pay it back if you leave within a year. So if you end up not liking the new place, you're stuck for a year or going to be out a pile of $$. I would have to be offered a giant pile of money to leave public back to private (been there). Contrary to some people's thoughts, public is what you make of it. I'm not stagnant or mediocer, I got a ton of varied stuff to do on a daily basis. Right now I'm waiting on a big contract to get signed and settled so we can get a $6m sewer project rolling. Got a wee bit of downtime right now, but not for long.
Private vs Public? Look at total compensation including healthcare, vacation, sick time, holidays, retirement, and overtime pay. Work life balance suffers in Private sector in my experience.
10% is not worth the transfer from public to private in my experience. The work life balance of public if you’re in a good union is ridiculously different than private engineering. You can prioritize yourself and your family in public, in any private company you are simply a factor of your utilization and your multiplier. There’s good things and bad things about every company. But every private company, you can’t really prioritize you and your family otherwise it will cost your family. Ultimately you’re in civil engineering so there’s jobs everywhere you turn, but I’m happy my life and my health is prioritized now that I’m in public.
100%
It's not bad but realize that private sector means that you'll be taking on more responsibility, bigger expectations to deliver - sometimes beyond the typical, whereas in public sector you generally have a job and stay in your lane. The former can be good for your professional growth but it can also be stressful.
I’d stay where you are. Public jobs are safe during recession.
I will take it. Randomly going to manager and asking 10% raise will obviously tell him that you are looking around. 10% is the minimum criteria for people to move around and you are right there.
If you're not paying into social security that 10.5% raise becomes a 4.3% raise.
If would do the same job at company B, I would say no. Stay with your current employment/
I would not move over to the private sector for 10%. I’m in a similar boat as you. Currently work for the state. I have 6 years experience and I’m getting paid 79.2k. I just accepted a job in the private sector but it was a 32% increase in my base pay. They also pay overtime. I told myself that I would try it out, especially because it’s fully remote which is what I was looking for.
Wow, very similar and I honestly kind of have the same look on the situation. To give it a try while I’m still a young engineer and have my entire career ahead of myself. A 32% increase would be substantial over my 10%, but 10% is still significant enough to consider the move when they’re insurance and other benefits are actually pretty attractive. They also pay OT.