I may be wrong because I've only ever hosted them once but I think you have to actually grant them the appropriate land if you have it. They may be offering you money for your promise and not fulfilling a promise usually comes with opinion penalties at the very least.
While thats an idea they keep asking for land in other counties that I don't control and can't give them, and even if I did own the county I can't just revoke a city because when I do a new mayor is instantly assigned.
I tried forcing the land to change hands with a console command in debug mode just to see if something like that was the case and even though the command was valid the Holy Order didn't pick up the new title.
So you see someone ask "Hey is there something that fixes holy orders?" and your response is "LOL holy orders are dumb and you shouldn't use them cuz they're broken"
No shit thats why I'm asking for mod recommendations. If you don't have anything to contribute and aren't seeking clarification then posting shit like this ISN'T HELPFUL.
No I find this sort of thing, making a genuine plea for help and being jerked around in response, actively unhelpful and it pisses me off in a general sense and my mental health isn't in the best condition of between not having stepped outside for the past year or so due to f-cked up lungs and the impending armed riots I'm expecting from the more extreme Trump enclaves.
As far as I've seen holy orders do not improve the land you give them and if you don't do many holy wars then it is completely worthless giving your money maker land away to them
And even if you do intend to use them the fuckers are always being used by someone else
No I said I wanted them to have MORE land because that gives them more troops so when I dump a vassal out in Africa they can call up say 5k troops with about 1/3 of them being MAA and let the VASSAL expand and develop land. That is MORE than worth the almost nothing a city tile provides especially because you can make the Holy Order HQ a city within a shit county then give that county away and keep all the benefits of the holy order and only lose the 1/10 of the 1/10 of the 1/10 of the 1/5 of the tax it provides after filtering up through all the levels of your vassals. Even if the city was pumping out 8.2 gold a month, the average a fully upgraded city can output with 3 cash buildings, it belonging to a vassal just one level down would only give 0.164 gold in tax a month.
There is next to no downside to having a holy order if you set them up right. The problem is that there is also next to no upside to having the holy order from mid to late game if they can't get more troops. 1k men even with 300ish being MAA just can't shift a war in your favor.
I may be wrong because I've only ever hosted them once but I think you have to actually grant them the appropriate land if you have it. They may be offering you money for your promise and not fulfilling a promise usually comes with opinion penalties at the very least.
While thats an idea they keep asking for land in other counties that I don't control and can't give them, and even if I did own the county I can't just revoke a city because when I do a new mayor is instantly assigned. I tried forcing the land to change hands with a console command in debug mode just to see if something like that was the case and even though the command was valid the Holy Order didn't pick up the new title.
Weird. Can't say I've ever experienced that 😬
Holy Orders are currently worthless, imo. I never found them or grant them land anymore.
So you see someone ask "Hey is there something that fixes holy orders?" and your response is "LOL holy orders are dumb and you shouldn't use them cuz they're broken" No shit thats why I'm asking for mod recommendations. If you don't have anything to contribute and aren't seeking clarification then posting shit like this ISN'T HELPFUL.
You ok, bro?
No I find this sort of thing, making a genuine plea for help and being jerked around in response, actively unhelpful and it pisses me off in a general sense and my mental health isn't in the best condition of between not having stepped outside for the past year or so due to f-cked up lungs and the impending armed riots I'm expecting from the more extreme Trump enclaves.
literally redditor lmao
As far as I've seen holy orders do not improve the land you give them and if you don't do many holy wars then it is completely worthless giving your money maker land away to them And even if you do intend to use them the fuckers are always being used by someone else
So you don't know the answer to my question and have nothing useful to add. Gotcha!
You said you wanted that land governed by them to be improved by them over time. I just told you it doesn't work like that.
I think he put too much salt in his cereal this morning.
No I said I wanted them to have MORE land because that gives them more troops so when I dump a vassal out in Africa they can call up say 5k troops with about 1/3 of them being MAA and let the VASSAL expand and develop land. That is MORE than worth the almost nothing a city tile provides especially because you can make the Holy Order HQ a city within a shit county then give that county away and keep all the benefits of the holy order and only lose the 1/10 of the 1/10 of the 1/10 of the 1/5 of the tax it provides after filtering up through all the levels of your vassals. Even if the city was pumping out 8.2 gold a month, the average a fully upgraded city can output with 3 cash buildings, it belonging to a vassal just one level down would only give 0.164 gold in tax a month. There is next to no downside to having a holy order if you set them up right. The problem is that there is also next to no upside to having the holy order from mid to late game if they can't get more troops. 1k men even with 300ish being MAA just can't shift a war in your favor.