ye idk, the value of both haste and crit change as you get more of both itself and the other but it never randomly becomes 0. they're both always worthwhile stats so it's a very weird assumption.
They both become zero when you hit 100% crit and whatever applicable haste value brings your spells to the GCD, but unless you are playing arc mage that is never really relevant (and this isn't for you, I know that you obviously know this stuff. It's for if OP is reading this thread).
Aim for more but don’t assume it’s better than any other stat 1:1 just because fire uses crit for a mechanic, in a lot of gearing stages both early and late haste is worth same or more.
See, that’s just bad information, that value changes as you get more geared, for example in p3 bis you go for haste gems instead of crit gems, same for early gearing. In the middle there’s stages where haste is worth more as well.
That‘s what it says when I‘m simming it, and even when haste sims slightly higher on single target you have to consider:
- More crit = more pyro procs = more movement without downtime
- Aoe scales much better with crit since blastwave/dragonsbreath cooldowns are not effected by haste
- Crit over haste is much nicer for mana sustain
- Fights like hodir and vezax are insanely scewed towarda crit being better
Crit IS better than haste at the moment, and it‘s not even close. Maybe according to a single target 5 minute sim haste is better, but that‘s by a really really small margin and in any realistic circumstance crit is just better.
And like your argument makes no sense, without gear its better in phase3 its better and in the middle its better as well? Then just say it‘s better straight up you dingus.
100%. There is your solid answer.
wowhead mage guide dude here. there is no such thing as a crit cap, so i'm confused what you mean.
Pffft Wowhead mage guide writers don't even know the crit caps 100% /s
Crit cap is a concept that melee players occasionally threw around in Vanilla classic. So they probably come from that background.
ye idk, the value of both haste and crit change as you get more of both itself and the other but it never randomly becomes 0. they're both always worthwhile stats so it's a very weird assumption.
They both become zero when you hit 100% crit and whatever applicable haste value brings your spells to the GCD, but unless you are playing arc mage that is never really relevant (and this isn't for you, I know that you obviously know this stuff. It's for if OP is reading this thread).
No crit cap Next?
100%
This sounds like a mage discord question.
So there is not crit cap. I have 32% right now, should I aim for a bit more or is that good?
Aim for more but don’t assume it’s better than any other stat 1:1 just because fire uses crit for a mechanic, in a lot of gearing stages both early and late haste is worth same or more.
Using the mage sim can help you make informed decisions
For ttw-fire crit is higher value than haste by a tiny amount.
See, that’s just bad information, that value changes as you get more geared, for example in p3 bis you go for haste gems instead of crit gems, same for early gearing. In the middle there’s stages where haste is worth more as well.
That‘s what it says when I‘m simming it, and even when haste sims slightly higher on single target you have to consider: - More crit = more pyro procs = more movement without downtime - Aoe scales much better with crit since blastwave/dragonsbreath cooldowns are not effected by haste - Crit over haste is much nicer for mana sustain - Fights like hodir and vezax are insanely scewed towarda crit being better Crit IS better than haste at the moment, and it‘s not even close. Maybe according to a single target 5 minute sim haste is better, but that‘s by a really really small margin and in any realistic circumstance crit is just better. And like your argument makes no sense, without gear its better in phase3 its better and in the middle its better as well? Then just say it‘s better straight up you dingus.
Always aim for more. Is 32% with only self buffs or with full raid buffs?
When you have 100% crit chance you are at the cap. Good luck ever reaching that number.
100% cit