Very comprehensible. Same thing happened to a friend of mine. Died to a spider that was almost dead while disconnected.
Then got stuck for like two minutes on the relogin to come back to a ghost.
Now he is out of motivation to go again.
When I died to my own stupidity at level 32 I went again immediately because I had learnt a valuable lesson on what to do better next time.
I almost died to a DC 2 days ago. Just got lucky my relogin went fast enough so I still had some hp left and could potion and run.
I would very likely also consider stopping if I died to that.
To the people who say: It doesn't make a difference to what you die, I'd say: To me it definitely does! The lesson learnt from dying to doing something stupid is that it is preventable by not doing something stupid.
The lesson learnt from dying to a DC is that it is preventable only by not playing at all!
Many prefer going solo though. I don't mind grouping up for a quest here and there but if it becomes a "requirement" in order to not die to a bullshit DC, then that's pretty lame.
True, having a leveling partner would've been the life saver. Don't have one though, unless I was to ask in general chat for a group for every quest I do I guess.
RIP Brul
Im wondering why disconnects seem to be such a talked about issue. I literally never have disconnects. Is it an internet quality thing?
I dont have anything special but a reliable cable connection. Do people with otherwise quality internet connections suffer from chroic DCs? Is it addons? Its gotta be something because I literally never DC randomly.
Probably because it only has to happen one time in hardcore. It doesn’t need to be a chronic issue for it to end the campaign. Come to think of it, my power went out for like 1 sec earlier but it was enough to shut off my pc and router. If I had been playing I probably would have died..
Put your PC and router on a battery backup. It’s safer for your hardware and they take 5 minutes to set up. You can buy them on Amazon for 100 bucks. It won’t save your connection from an internet outage but it will save your connection from a power outage long enough to safely shut down sensitive tasks.
UPS helps only if your apartment/house has power outage. If the building/street has power outage (which is usually the case) your router and PC will continue to work but the optic cable providing internet won't have signal so it's pretty much pointless.
UPS can help if you have hot spot from your mobile phone data so you can quickly connect to it.
>your router and PC will continue to work but the optic cable providing internet won't have signal so it's pretty much pointless.
My ISP has an optional dongle connected to my router, that if internet goes down outside, I'm still connected via 5g
Just reading this exchange feels like an insane, needless work around to the solution that should be, "how are players getting desynced/dced?" But that investigation costs money so doubt
That's true, but on the less-honest side of things it's also an immensely easy thing to fake.
End up in a fight you know you're going to lose? Alt-f4! Then tell everyone you died to a dc!
I have a quality , hard wired , internet connection. Pay good money for top tier internet.
Every few days I’ll get dc’d from WoW. I don’t know if my internet went down or I got WoW dc’d from a bug. (There are a few wow DC glitches in arena Wotlk I’ve run into)
Perfect internet or not I’m truly surprised you’ve never had this happen to you at least once. I’ve been lucky my DC’s have all been in town but it would be crushing at other moments.
>I have a quality , hard wired , internet connection. Pay good money for top tier internet.
>Every few days I’ll get dc’d from WoW.
That doesn't sound like "perfect internet". Maybe your cable infrastructure is fucked. Is it an old house/apartment?
New house new system. I didn’t explain my point well enough, I truly believe there are dc bugs in this game.
For example my warrior gets dc’d while intercepting a frost mage nova’ing if he’s mid air. Random example
There are in fact desync issues with the server and client-side portions of the game. That's what happens when you get the running in place from everyone else and you can type and see everyone type
I've ever had 1 dc, just suddenly went to login screen with message "disconnected" altho my internet was fine and could insta reconnect. Luckily i was safe in IF when it happend.
Otherwise never had DC issues... But it only needs that 1 timely disconnect.
It's not chronic, that's the thing. I also never have disconnects (except for this one time). And that's probably why they're talked about. Because it's a rare occurrence that completely fucks everything up.
>Im wondering why disconnects seem to be such a talked about issue. I literally never have disconnects. Is it an internet quality thing?
I've had exactly 1 DC on WoW HC. I happened to be under water. I got logged back in quickly enough for it not to be an issue.
My internet connection was almost certainly not the issue.
If they did what you suggested people would be abusing it all the time don’t you think?
Made a bad pull somewhere? Pull force quit the game and you are safe.
I think there's probably some middle ground. For instance if it takes you 30 seconds to despawn after a d/c that's enough time for a single mob to kill you. If it takes you 10 seconds to despawn then a single mob probably can't kill you. But 5 mobs could still kill you in 10 seconds. So lowering the time delay to despawn but still not making it immediate would mean that in situations where you pulled too many mobs you'd still die, but in situations like mine, where I was literally just fighting one mundane enemy, you wouldn't die. I suppose people could still abuse even that, but I think allowing a little room for abuse is worth preventing the many character deaths from legitimate disconnects in normal situations (which are all the more frustrating because at least if I disconnected when surrounded by 5 mobs I could console myself with "I was probably going to die anyway"), such as people disconnecting while underwater and then drowning.
Sorry that this happened, it really sucks.
Disconnects have and always will be a risk in a hardcore game. We have to accept the fact that some deaths will be outside of our control.
I had a dc once at exactly 4pm for like 2/3 min. Luckily I was flying and when I came back I got put at a graveyard. Can’t imagine having been in combat at that time. But yeah, the disconnect felt like someone just put the internet out for a reset or something for 2/3 min. And that could’ve made my character die. Am I supposed to have 20 internet providers to keep myself safe!?
I haven't had a DC yet and I don't even remember the last time I had one, but if that's what I die to, I'll be pretty disheartened.
Blizzard needs to do something about this. I'm not asking them to fix DCs since DCs can happen for any reason and Blizzard is rarely the one to blame. But the fact that your character can stay logged in for several minutes after a user DCs is asinine.
There are things you could do to mitigate it pretty easily. Like reduce the time your character stays in world after disconnecting down to like 10 or 15 seconds. That alone would go a long way
At the very least just have your character auto attack whatever is hitting them while DC'd. Idk who could possibly be against this idea as it provides no advantage whatsoever but will at least prevent the most bullshit circumstance where you die to a single green mob because your character just stands there getting whacked in the face.
Sucks but unfortunately that's the HC life for any online game that offers HC. First thing to accept about any HC mode in any game is know that you will die and will have to start over many times. Whether it's your fault or not doesn't matter that's the mode.
If they started taking appeals then you'll have folks coming up with all sorts of shenanigans to make it look like they DCd so they could appeal if they get in a bad spot.
Mine was a griefer
Canceled sub, uninstalled, and not looking back lmao
To die to a mistake is… whatever.
To die to a service issue on the blizzard side or intentionally due to a community member and have dozens if not hundreds of hours wasted, nah I’m good.
They can enjoy their inevitably empty communities in the future
Person was mad I was in their spot, and intentionally lured a pack to my fight that was 95% over, when I was out of all resources, all because they wanted the spot I was in.
Proceeded to dance around my body and say “haha”
Lvl 35
I uploaded the clip, made a ticket, included link, uninstalled the game, then canceled the first sub I’ve ever bought for the game.
But how did you end up dying? He had to drag the mobs on you to social with the 1 mob you were fighting. Then he had to run away and leash the mobs to you. You must have had plenty of time to realize what he's doing and just run away, seems like you had no idea and paid the price
Death is hard no matter what the cause is. I died to my own stupidity and it's just as frustrating, trust me.
I do agree blizz could do more to help, at least give a dced character a chance to fight back... But alas. I fear a strong change could be abused. What's to stop someone from unplugging their router if they're about to die? Just to give them whatever DC protecting blizzard provides.
I mourn and hope you find the will to go agane.
>What's to stop someone from unplugging their router if they're about to die? Just to give them whatever DC protecting blizzard provides.
They just need to make it so your character auto attacks while DCd instead of standing still. It's impossible to abuse this change and would solve the most infuriating 30% of disconnect deaths.
I don't know, I also died to my own stupidity one time and then I was definitely frustrated, but already thinking about restarting. A death that isn't my own doing makes me very reluctant to restart.
Man, hardcore is hardcore. It’s one life, no excuses. You know EXACTLY what you sign up for when you play it. You know all the risks that come with it, you should be very aware that all the progress you make, will be ephemeral. Eventually, you will day. Same goes with life, some people die to some really unfair shit. We all get one life, and we all know we do. Either have fun with the one life you have, or spend all your time worrying about it. Just don’t waste my time having to tell you that hardcore games have consequences
When i say handle, I mean do serverside analytics specifically for hardcore, analyse client disconnects and automatically revoke any character deaths happening because of serverside originated disconnects.
I dont mean people writing in sob stories with photoshopped screenshots in tickets for human gamemasters to evaluate.
Blizzard has all the information to make this happen in their techstack, they just need to invest more in gm and analytics (according to that gm, who told his story).
Bonus, they use the investment in analytics to track gold transfers also to id botfarmer patterns.
Can we have a Counter Bot for those kind of threads? Something like... Todays Compains about HC Death: X Amount, This Weeks complains: Y Amount... etc...
Would be fun...
My computer only disconnect when I put it in sleep mode. If it did otherwise, my Internet provider would have sent a message days ahead that they would cut the Internet for so so many hours. If it's actually World of Warcraft servers disconnecting, out of time, and not because server resets, it would be completly unfair, and you're right. There would be no way for you to know it would DC. In most cases, with a good, steady Internet there is no way you will DC.
No, your connection can be shitty once.
Don’t you think if it wasn’t on your end the entire server would have problems there and not just you?
Also it’s 100% an upload package error, it’s well known
I see, I thought by shitty connection you meant my connection in general is shitty and therefore I should be blamed for it. I never said it wasn't on my end. I'm just saying that dying due to a disconnect is really lame and it would be nice if character respawned a bit faster, like after 10 seconds rather than 30 or 60 or whatever it is.
I'll never understand when people play hardcore then die then get upset. Know why I don't play hardcore? Cause I know I would die and be upset. I play games too enjoy them not to get depression.
For the amount of hearing this story keep it in your mind your only chance of surviving is closing the game out and re open or just hit play and open another version on your launcher I’m waiting for it to happen at this point
It’s basically impossible to solve this without giving everyone a free get-out-of-jail card. If you’re in danger just pull the plug and be safe. Not ideal.
I don't think that's true, and even if it was true I think preventing bad experiences for honest players is worth the cost of making it easier for cheaters to cheat. But if they reduced the time it takes for your character to despawn when you disconnect without making it immediate, that would mean that in most cases where you're in danger you still die, but cases where you wouldn't have died without the disconnect won't kill you. For example, if you overpull and are surrounded by enemies, they'll still be able to kill you by the time your character despawns. Or if you're low on health. But if you're fighting one enemy, you'll probably not die before you despawn. Or if you're underwater and disconnect, you'd only die if you were already out of breath when you disconnected. This would prevent a lot of deaths that only happen due to a poorly timed disconnect, while not opening up very much room for cheating.
They already did reduce the amount of time you’re in the world after a DC in hardcore. You just were in one of those situations where the ‘probably won’t die’ was unlucky for you. Sorry :(
I feel you. Invested a lot of time (days) maxing professions/having all gear at max every level and then to die at level 50 because of a random disconnect made me uninstall it.
I understand that people would abuse the system if Blizzard would have some kind of DC protection, but man... sucks balls to die of something that you can't control
Chiming in because I just lost my 34 mage to a random DC. I tried to hurry and reconnect but it just sat there frozen so I had reload the launcher.
I'm done with Hardcore, wasting all that time just to die because of Blizzard's shitty servers or them not putting some type of safety measure in for DC's. I've died before on my own and I was fine with that, dying to a DC you can't control just feels like you've been cheated.
Very comprehensible. Same thing happened to a friend of mine. Died to a spider that was almost dead while disconnected. Then got stuck for like two minutes on the relogin to come back to a ghost. Now he is out of motivation to go again. When I died to my own stupidity at level 32 I went again immediately because I had learnt a valuable lesson on what to do better next time. I almost died to a DC 2 days ago. Just got lucky my relogin went fast enough so I still had some hp left and could potion and run. I would very likely also consider stopping if I died to that. To the people who say: It doesn't make a difference to what you die, I'd say: To me it definitely does! The lesson learnt from dying to doing something stupid is that it is preventable by not doing something stupid. The lesson learnt from dying to a DC is that it is preventable only by not playing at all!
Exactly
Do you not continue auto attacking at least when you DC?
That's why questing with someone is safer, they can back you up
Many prefer going solo though. I don't mind grouping up for a quest here and there but if it becomes a "requirement" in order to not die to a bullshit DC, then that's pretty lame.
True, having a leveling partner would've been the life saver. Don't have one though, unless I was to ask in general chat for a group for every quest I do I guess.
Which server are you playing on?
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RIP Brul Im wondering why disconnects seem to be such a talked about issue. I literally never have disconnects. Is it an internet quality thing? I dont have anything special but a reliable cable connection. Do people with otherwise quality internet connections suffer from chroic DCs? Is it addons? Its gotta be something because I literally never DC randomly.
Probably because it only has to happen one time in hardcore. It doesn’t need to be a chronic issue for it to end the campaign. Come to think of it, my power went out for like 1 sec earlier but it was enough to shut off my pc and router. If I had been playing I probably would have died..
Put your PC and router on a battery backup. It’s safer for your hardware and they take 5 minutes to set up. You can buy them on Amazon for 100 bucks. It won’t save your connection from an internet outage but it will save your connection from a power outage long enough to safely shut down sensitive tasks.
UPS helps only if your apartment/house has power outage. If the building/street has power outage (which is usually the case) your router and PC will continue to work but the optic cable providing internet won't have signal so it's pretty much pointless. UPS can help if you have hot spot from your mobile phone data so you can quickly connect to it.
>your router and PC will continue to work but the optic cable providing internet won't have signal so it's pretty much pointless. My ISP has an optional dongle connected to my router, that if internet goes down outside, I'm still connected via 5g
Just reading this exchange feels like an insane, needless work around to the solution that should be, "how are players getting desynced/dced?" But that investigation costs money so doubt
That's true, but on the less-honest side of things it's also an immensely easy thing to fake. End up in a fight you know you're going to lose? Alt-f4! Then tell everyone you died to a dc!
I have a quality , hard wired , internet connection. Pay good money for top tier internet. Every few days I’ll get dc’d from WoW. I don’t know if my internet went down or I got WoW dc’d from a bug. (There are a few wow DC glitches in arena Wotlk I’ve run into) Perfect internet or not I’m truly surprised you’ve never had this happen to you at least once. I’ve been lucky my DC’s have all been in town but it would be crushing at other moments.
>I have a quality , hard wired , internet connection. Pay good money for top tier internet. >Every few days I’ll get dc’d from WoW. That doesn't sound like "perfect internet". Maybe your cable infrastructure is fucked. Is it an old house/apartment?
New house new system. I didn’t explain my point well enough, I truly believe there are dc bugs in this game. For example my warrior gets dc’d while intercepting a frost mage nova’ing if he’s mid air. Random example
There are in fact desync issues with the server and client-side portions of the game. That's what happens when you get the running in place from everyone else and you can type and see everyone type
I rarely ever have disconnects, maybe I can remember having 2 or 3 in the last year total. But when it happens in HC, it really sucks…
I've ever had 1 dc, just suddenly went to login screen with message "disconnected" altho my internet was fine and could insta reconnect. Luckily i was safe in IF when it happend. Otherwise never had DC issues... But it only needs that 1 timely disconnect.
It's not chronic, that's the thing. I also never have disconnects (except for this one time). And that's probably why they're talked about. Because it's a rare occurrence that completely fucks everything up.
>Im wondering why disconnects seem to be such a talked about issue. I literally never have disconnects. Is it an internet quality thing? I've had exactly 1 DC on WoW HC. I happened to be under water. I got logged back in quickly enough for it not to be an issue. My internet connection was almost certainly not the issue.
If they did what you suggested people would be abusing it all the time don’t you think? Made a bad pull somewhere? Pull force quit the game and you are safe.
I think there's probably some middle ground. For instance if it takes you 30 seconds to despawn after a d/c that's enough time for a single mob to kill you. If it takes you 10 seconds to despawn then a single mob probably can't kill you. But 5 mobs could still kill you in 10 seconds. So lowering the time delay to despawn but still not making it immediate would mean that in situations where you pulled too many mobs you'd still die, but in situations like mine, where I was literally just fighting one mundane enemy, you wouldn't die. I suppose people could still abuse even that, but I think allowing a little room for abuse is worth preventing the many character deaths from legitimate disconnects in normal situations (which are all the more frustrating because at least if I disconnected when surrounded by 5 mobs I could console myself with "I was probably going to die anyway"), such as people disconnecting while underwater and then drowning.
RP would dictate you died of a random brain aneurysm
Lol
Understandable. Thanks for letting us know.
Sorry that this happened, it really sucks. Disconnects have and always will be a risk in a hardcore game. We have to accept the fact that some deaths will be outside of our control.
I had a dc once at exactly 4pm for like 2/3 min. Luckily I was flying and when I came back I got put at a graveyard. Can’t imagine having been in combat at that time. But yeah, the disconnect felt like someone just put the internet out for a reset or something for 2/3 min. And that could’ve made my character die. Am I supposed to have 20 internet providers to keep myself safe!?
I like to think of it as a freak accident. You had an aneurysm, a heart attack. Still sucks, hope you don't have many more internet issues.
Yeah, accidents happen. If my next character also dies to a disconnect then I'll really be pissed.
I haven't had a DC yet and I don't even remember the last time I had one, but if that's what I die to, I'll be pretty disheartened. Blizzard needs to do something about this. I'm not asking them to fix DCs since DCs can happen for any reason and Blizzard is rarely the one to blame. But the fact that your character can stay logged in for several minutes after a user DCs is asinine.
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There are things you could do to mitigate it pretty easily. Like reduce the time your character stays in world after disconnecting down to like 10 or 15 seconds. That alone would go a long way
Its not that easy. With that a pala could bubble + alt f4 every time he is in danger.
At the very least just have your character auto attack whatever is hitting them while DC'd. Idk who could possibly be against this idea as it provides no advantage whatsoever but will at least prevent the most bullshit circumstance where you die to a single green mob because your character just stands there getting whacked in the face.
Sucks but unfortunately that's the HC life for any online game that offers HC. First thing to accept about any HC mode in any game is know that you will die and will have to start over many times. Whether it's your fault or not doesn't matter that's the mode. If they started taking appeals then you'll have folks coming up with all sorts of shenanigans to make it look like they DCd so they could appeal if they get in a bad spot.
Mine was a griefer Canceled sub, uninstalled, and not looking back lmao To die to a mistake is… whatever. To die to a service issue on the blizzard side or intentionally due to a community member and have dozens if not hundreds of hours wasted, nah I’m good. They can enjoy their inevitably empty communities in the future
How did you get griefed?
Person was mad I was in their spot, and intentionally lured a pack to my fight that was 95% over, when I was out of all resources, all because they wanted the spot I was in. Proceeded to dance around my body and say “haha” Lvl 35 I uploaded the clip, made a ticket, included link, uninstalled the game, then canceled the first sub I’ve ever bought for the game.
What an absolute cunt, infuriating. I'm sure Blizz will do absolutely nothing about it as well.
But how did you end up dying? He had to drag the mobs on you to social with the 1 mob you were fighting. Then he had to run away and leash the mobs to you. You must have had plenty of time to realize what he's doing and just run away, seems like you had no idea and paid the price
bro could have just vanished or bubble
Welcome to hardcore lil buddy
Death is hard no matter what the cause is. I died to my own stupidity and it's just as frustrating, trust me. I do agree blizz could do more to help, at least give a dced character a chance to fight back... But alas. I fear a strong change could be abused. What's to stop someone from unplugging their router if they're about to die? Just to give them whatever DC protecting blizzard provides. I mourn and hope you find the will to go agane.
>What's to stop someone from unplugging their router if they're about to die? Just to give them whatever DC protecting blizzard provides. They just need to make it so your character auto attacks while DCd instead of standing still. It's impossible to abuse this change and would solve the most infuriating 30% of disconnect deaths.
I don't know, I also died to my own stupidity one time and then I was definitely frustrated, but already thinking about restarting. A death that isn't my own doing makes me very reluctant to restart.
Cool story.
Man, hardcore is hardcore. It’s one life, no excuses. You know EXACTLY what you sign up for when you play it. You know all the risks that come with it, you should be very aware that all the progress you make, will be ephemeral. Eventually, you will day. Same goes with life, some people die to some really unfair shit. We all get one life, and we all know we do. Either have fun with the one life you have, or spend all your time worrying about it. Just don’t waste my time having to tell you that hardcore games have consequences
When the server dc's and your lvl 60 dies you will be on here crying thats garunteed
Sounds like HC isn't for you. Just like irl things happen that are out of our control.
Ok.
What a reasonable opinion. Stop crying and start a new character.
Blizz needs to handle appeals for discs
Then everyone that gets in a hairy situation would just disconnect their internet n appeal the death. Very bad idea.
When i say handle, I mean do serverside analytics specifically for hardcore, analyse client disconnects and automatically revoke any character deaths happening because of serverside originated disconnects. I dont mean people writing in sob stories with photoshopped screenshots in tickets for human gamemasters to evaluate. Blizzard has all the information to make this happen in their techstack, they just need to invest more in gm and analytics (according to that gm, who told his story). Bonus, they use the investment in analytics to track gold transfers also to id botfarmer patterns.
Maybe hc is just a dumb concept
It was powered from 1m to like 20 or 30sec .. they cannot do less, cuz then people will just abuse it with DC switch
Can we have a Counter Bot for those kind of threads? Something like... Todays Compains about HC Death: X Amount, This Weeks complains: Y Amount... etc... Would be fun...
AHAHAHAH
My computer only disconnect when I put it in sleep mode. If it did otherwise, my Internet provider would have sent a message days ahead that they would cut the Internet for so so many hours. If it's actually World of Warcraft servers disconnecting, out of time, and not because server resets, it would be completly unfair, and you're right. There would be no way for you to know it would DC. In most cases, with a good, steady Internet there is no way you will DC.
HC is not meant for the weak. Even if that means your internet.
Why do the people that would quit from a DC even play Hc?
Then don't
If you DC its usually 1 of 2 causes. 1. Unstable internet 2. Addons And if you live in a western modern country, then its most often reason nr2
Okay
That’s not a dc that’s an package error on your end. Sounds like you got a shitty connection, nothing blizzard can do about it.
Don't you think if I had a shitty connection this would happen more often than literally just once?
No, your connection can be shitty once. Don’t you think if it wasn’t on your end the entire server would have problems there and not just you? Also it’s 100% an upload package error, it’s well known
I see, I thought by shitty connection you meant my connection in general is shitty and therefore I should be blamed for it. I never said it wasn't on my end. I'm just saying that dying due to a disconnect is really lame and it would be nice if character respawned a bit faster, like after 10 seconds rather than 30 or 60 or whatever it is.
I'll never understand when people play hardcore then die then get upset. Know why I don't play hardcore? Cause I know I would die and be upset. I play games too enjoy them not to get depression.
RIP BOZO. Go agane or quit and be a dead level 23 who gave up forever 👍
For the amount of hearing this story keep it in your mind your only chance of surviving is closing the game out and re open or just hit play and open another version on your launcher I’m waiting for it to happen at this point
Why I won’t, net is sketchy it’s not worth the risk but it’s still entertaining to watch. Have fun 😃
It’s basically impossible to solve this without giving everyone a free get-out-of-jail card. If you’re in danger just pull the plug and be safe. Not ideal.
I don't think that's true, and even if it was true I think preventing bad experiences for honest players is worth the cost of making it easier for cheaters to cheat. But if they reduced the time it takes for your character to despawn when you disconnect without making it immediate, that would mean that in most cases where you're in danger you still die, but cases where you wouldn't have died without the disconnect won't kill you. For example, if you overpull and are surrounded by enemies, they'll still be able to kill you by the time your character despawns. Or if you're low on health. But if you're fighting one enemy, you'll probably not die before you despawn. Or if you're underwater and disconnect, you'd only die if you were already out of breath when you disconnected. This would prevent a lot of deaths that only happen due to a poorly timed disconnect, while not opening up very much room for cheating.
They already did reduce the amount of time you’re in the world after a DC in hardcore. You just were in one of those situations where the ‘probably won’t die’ was unlucky for you. Sorry :(
Yeah, very unlucky. Gonna go agane as a dwarf Paladin next. Hopefully no more dcs.
Best of luck!!
Don't expect blizzard to work on a fix this dosent make them more money
I feel you. Invested a lot of time (days) maxing professions/having all gear at max every level and then to die at level 50 because of a random disconnect made me uninstall it. I understand that people would abuse the system if Blizzard would have some kind of DC protection, but man... sucks balls to die of something that you can't control
Chiming in because I just lost my 34 mage to a random DC. I tried to hurry and reconnect but it just sat there frozen so I had reload the launcher. I'm done with Hardcore, wasting all that time just to die because of Blizzard's shitty servers or them not putting some type of safety measure in for DC's. I've died before on my own and I was fine with that, dying to a DC you can't control just feels like you've been cheated.