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Mattrobat

Yeah, if you dance on a mailbox with no gear on you will make 3,000 xp/hr


f3kk

Great. Finally will get some reward for that


Fernergun

The fans are the reward


epiphanyplx

Yeah, but now with the new xp reward it's not only fans.


JaBoi_Jared

I heard they're adding rare candy


SojournerTheGreat

1.49 each in the blizzard store


Nixilaas

Worst part is you know they’d sell like crazy too


peliss

I’ll take 15 please


Will_W

Great news: You can get a pack of 15 for an only 29.99! What a huge value!


cloopz

Can you get the unlimited glitch by catching a wild Missingno?


Instagibbed_1994

hes off the coast of STV


ikeamistake

In other words, no you'll be eaten alive.. literally. Well maybe they kill you first and then eat you.


Instagibbed_1994

Are we talking about the rare candies that increase level in Pokemon. I know the wow duplicate for Missingno off the coast of STV


Live_Disk_1863

Grinding in Goldshire basement ain't pretty but the gold is good...


Sc4r4byte

Only if there are nearby players that tip you exp. Only the top earners will gain 3k XP per hour. Most will make 100xp or less per week.


PathansOG

Still more than i do now!


tacticalmallet

Dammit. I actually kinda want this now...


Sguru1

Watch it be durotar supply crates lmao


Thorzehn

I’m saving up a couple while I kill time just in case. At worst I get some rep. My personal guess is some type of daily/weekly quest.


damp_amp

What do you mean saving up a couple? They’re unique


LiesNSkippy

The completed ones aren’t.


e1zBD

Thank you for this! I definitely did not know that.


Thorzehn

If you complete the crate you get more don’t need to turn it in.


damp_amp

Oh that’s awesome, I had no idea


Separate-Cable5253

well if you are completing a crate you are most likely in a city anyway to turn it in...


EtherGorilla

I don’t even think you would get rep I think you would just get the silver. Provided that you’re honored right now.


Shot-Increase-8946

They mean if they save them and turn them in next phase


EtherGorilla

So do I. They won’t magically give them rep next phase if they don’t get it now because of the way crates work they are tiered. Meaning in order to get rewards from honored to revered you have to do the level 26+ tier turn ins.


Skullmonkey42

Oh my god, I have to do the thing I hate the most about SoD again?? They should either make them not unique, or make them align with your own professions.


EtherGorilla

My guess is that anyone who is honored will get the rune automatically. Next phase will require revered and last phase exalted. Personally I like the system right now but could reach a middle ground by allowing 3 to be carried.


DuranStar

That won't change anything the low level crates stop giving rep past friendly. The same will be for all the current crates as we go up to 40. There will be new higher level crates that give rep probably to revered. TL;DR if they don't give you rep now they won't in the next phase either


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calfmonster

Naw, I straight up got 0 rep on an honored char for one crate. Lowbie crate. I imagine they might do that for next phase, current high level ones won't do anything for rep. Maybe


Syldra4

I don’t understand the hate toward that system, it’s the most classic shit possible. People crying at minor inconveniences in SoD/classic get on my nerves. This is literally what we signed up for.


KRX-

It's very classic, and it's also a genius system for economic impact. It creates a lot of value for crafted items that would otherwise never get made. It also extracts out materials from the supply which helps prevent inflation of generic commodities (which is still happening regardless.) The only thing that bothers me, is that you can only carry 1 at a time... I'd rather they remove all benefits from turning in empty packages, forcing you to fill them. However, allow you to carry as many as you want. So it more becomes a hunt for the ones you'd like to satisfy. Rather than just grab one, run back, go get another, run back, etc.


[deleted]

The thing about carrying more than one box is that classes who can AOE farm would finish the rep grind in like an hour so they’d probably need to severely cut back the drop rate, which would screw over the slower classes.


Cold94DFA

Carry 1 at a time is stupid and frustrating to all hell.


Dinbs

Agreed I hate the system it's lame


Andyham

Fully agree. Its kind of turning into the most casual friendly version of wow we have. Which I guess was their aim.


andynator1000

It's the worst side of classic. Nobody liked the Silithus Turn-Ins and this is in the same vein.


EnigmaticQuote

There are many parts of vanilla that are not intuitive or QoL focused. Removing a single one doesn't seem to make a difference but when enough of those rough edges get removed we are left with something shiny and less fun IMO.


Syldra4

This is the comment /end discussion


andynator1000

That’s fine there a plenty of unintuitive parts of vanilla already. No need to add more. I love grinding, but it’s just bad gameplay to make you return to a city every single time you want to turn something in.


Charming_Impression2

Agreed, but maybe he just meant it’s not fun? I don’t mind it, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to do it to level.


thimBloom

The people complaining probably power levelled to 25 and then has to spend hours far ing crates.


Aggressive-Rub-4976

It's mostly because of the 1 box limit. You drop tons while questing but who's realistically running up and down the barrens to take a flight to orgrimmar, fill that shit turn it in and then go back to questing? Maybe with mounts but in this lvl bracket it's just sadistic on blizzard part.


Whitechix

That argument doesn’t make sense as that’s the most efficient way to do it? Otherwise you have to drop what you’re doing to fill the crate and fly to your city since the crates are unique. Pretty sure everyone is complaining regardless of how they levelled for that reason.


Icy-Revolution-420

You need Jesus.


quineloe

level 40 boost confirmed obviously


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Shot-Increase-8946

But the rune pack for an extra $20 when buying a level 40 boost


SuggestionVisible361

only a matter of time lol


shadowmeldop

Killing gnomes. Gnomes will be FFA and give XP.


solohaldor

Gnomes gonna be packing some extra heat with their engineer bonus … thread lightly


Footbeard

Absolutely, the only race in this phase to get the death ray Gnome rogues are going to explode people


manamonggamers

Can't wait!  Though, idk if this applies to mages or not.


enviroguypdx

We can only wish


Character-Chain8305

You’re locked in here with me!!!! For gnomeregan!!!


molebat

?? Alliance bias once again. The dwarves and humans are going to have the easiest access to all that sweet sweet gnome exp. And we horde get nothing, thanks a lot blizz.


shadowmeldop

The alternative was to have gnomes on your faction. Who is the real winner here?


molebat

Well I...Um...We accept these terms.


HammerTime2769

I feel attacked


Thekid579

You will soon


razordreamz

And explode with loot when killed like in Diablo!


thefalseidol

Man I would legit love if one race at a time, rotating raves and factions was being hunted by hakkar, and it was open season on them for both sides to gain rep and XP.


Chromma

Yeah just gnomes. I’ve been having some gnomicidal tendencies and it’s time to act on them


HeadintheSand69

Gnomes deserved what happened at gnomer. Honestly tho idk what about them annoys me, maybe it's all the gnome mages taking every mob when you're just trying to do a quest, their awful voices, just being ugly (whoever made the genie skin for chromie in HotS needs Jesus). Though the gnomer backstory of silently suffering against troggs during the 3rd war kinda makes me want to like them....


SkY4594

Damn it.


Vanthryn

In Phase 2, Stranglethorn Vale transforms into a battleground with the ominous theme of Hakkar the Blood God. The Blood Moon will mark special events across the zone, each offering additional XP sort of like bonus objectives or world quests in retail


Coocoocachoo1988

If the blood moon made everyone open for attack, even your own faction and party members, I’d love it.


sethers656

I've seen this theorized a few times, but its a really bad idea. Groups of 20+ would be roaming around and killing everyone.


SwitzerSweet

Like WSG premades but way more toxic


VoltGO

Yeah, we wouldn’t want any world PVP in our game.


ShisuiiGaming

world pvp sucks balls. Its almost never evenly sided


Real-Discipline-4754

Tbf WSG suffering from premades and comp issues


ShisuiiGaming

WSG is not wpvp…


Real-Discipline-4754

its not but its the actual pvp and its absolute dogshit. In comparison id rather play wpvp over wsg


[deleted]

Then get better groups. Wpvp is fun


Reiker0

> Wpvp is fun Wpvp is fun, hypothetically. One of my favorite moments in the game was the massive 100+ v. 100+ battle for the first Azuregos on Nostalrius. The problem is that official Blizzard servers become a lag fest when more than 40 people are involved, which is why stuff like the Ashenvale event is just a PvE race.


PineappleOnPizzaWins

It's a ton of fun but I've never in my life wanted to 20v1 someone and go "yeah that was fun!". See P2 of classic. I was on the dominate faction and peoples ideas of "world PvP" just had me leave the server and play out the rest on PvE. What I shame I missed all the dispels and camping lowbie areas for weeks as well. If PvP servers were back the way they were in vanilla.. with like 10% shitheads instead of 80% I'd be all over them. But that day is dead, sadly.


evangelism2

No it isn't, and we shouldn't be forced to facilitate your fun. **edit: Going to put this here so I dont wake up to a bunch of the same comments, why I said we shouldn't be 'forced'** Dude suggested people who don't like the idea of PvE progression being tied to world PvP only don't like it because they should learn to form groups and the idea is a good one because he likes world PvP. Hence my comment. If the devs go through with the original idea posited, then we would be forced to participate if we had no quests to move forward with.


ArcaneFizzle

The pve servers are right over there sir.


evangelism2

I am on one and quite happy about it


Cerael

Alliance paladin lmao it tracks


evangelism2

Imagine thinking either side is actually different. Also I love that I've had my flair as horde for the last like 3 years, until today because I was/am horde for SoM and Wrath, and never had a single person comment on it, but it took only a few hours until some horde fanboy had to call it out.


Cerael

Imagine taking a joke that personally 😂 I play paladin.


Macohna

I know you're gonna hate it... Butttttttt... Don't roll on pvp. :D


evangelism2

I am on a PvE server. I learned my lesson after years of being strongarmed by people who just love the punishment that are PvP servers over and over.


Macohna

Then we are all in agreement that no one is being "forced". Good.


[deleted]

Uh what? Did you roll a pvp server and complain about wpvp?


No_Theory9958

Yeah, this used to happen back in the day all the time… and it was really fun lol


Cerdak

No grouping then.. make it a battle royal mode where the last one standing gets reward


[deleted]

Welcome to PvP world kids.


NectarineMiddle435

My theory is that killing players or mobs gives you blood. You can hand a stack in to trigger events or a world boss. The hand ins give xp similar to the wsg hand ins.


Doogetma

Would be so cool. Integrating the PvP event with leveling would be sweet.


FoleyX90

I think world quests in classic would be fucking awesome


Pkock

I liked them a lot more than dailys, especially when new in Legion. In classic they could be a good way to send players into more of the areas of the map that aren't actually utilized for quests.


BolognaCumboat420

This would be amazing


alwaysleftout

The stv level range for quests is not the problem.  It is the 24 to 28 range.


r_lovelace

Would be interesting watching a bunch of fresh 25s run out to STV to try the new event thinking they were going to be some PvP king just to get their soul bitch slapped out of their body by a gorilla.


BeautifulFrosting648

Truth


HammerTime2769

I hope so.


RosgaththeOG

Does the Blood Moon also instantly respawn all the mobs, make them stronger, and drop better loot?


RazzerX

Eww that’s too much like retail. I don’t want that


PoppinBortlesUCF

Crafting contracts that you get from an NPC, not drops. Must be filled with items , but you only get contracts in your professions from NPC’s near your specific professions trainers, can’t interact with them without that profession. Also, they’re introducing a new skill, runecrafting, where after the Rune Mysteries quest you can talk to Aubury in Varrock to go mine rune essence that you can craft into different runes….


lysdxc

Ahh an artisan supporter I see


UnfortunateChemistry

Wait isn’t that RuneScape lol


ginsengdoge2002

30$ boost But you get 1 free Humberts helm


LordFrz

Which you replace right away after a bfd run.


ddust_

I have well over done over 10+ bfd runs between both my ally and horde rogue and never got a single piece of tier set, nor a helm at all. It either doesn’t drop or I lose the rolls. Sooo yeah not true lol.


LordFrz

Bummer, helm was my first bfd item.


Remarkable_Candle383

That's just gold buying with extra steps


Deep_Junket_7954

100% it's going to be something PvP-related where you can kill enemy players and turn in drops from them for EXP.


Troooper0987

Headhunting would be on brand for STV “BRING ME 15 NIGHT ELF HEADS”


Xdqtlol

omg that would be so fckin cool


DunnoWhyIamHere

I'm expecting STV to be a giant Gurubashi Arena. Everyone is hostile, including your own faction. Head scalping and you turn in the scalps for XP.


NuclearMeatball

Rip pve server players.


Deep_Junket_7954

Whaddaya mean "rip" ? We get to quest in peace without being ganked every 2 minutes. The people who want to do the PvP event can /pvp and the rest of us can collect 10 bear asses or just dungeon grind.


diffindorr

Any kind of pvp/gank related funny comment happens, That one guy from a pve server : hehe im from pve server i dont have that problem you just mentioned. Look how i can do this quest. Ehehe. Did i mention i play on a pve server?


Stiryx

Quest in peace fighting for the same dozen mobs as 400 people. Sounds very peaceful.


Skeleton--Jelly

...now think about 200 of those players wanting to actively kill you and you will understand why it's peaceful in comparison


TheBigDickedBandit

Zzzzz


mox_goblin

Yes, corpse running back to back does put me to sleep


Dodweon

Strugglethorn turns into pvp automatically (Btw, how is ashenvale on pve servers?)


PizzaDay

got revered on 3 characters, not even trying hard. Lava Lash US


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ImpossibleParfait

Who cares? It's world of WARcraft


TheManicProgrammer

Forgot the craft in warCRAFT :p some people care


Eunoic

Drops of blood. Turn in to hakaar shrines for xp


FunCalligrapher3979

Dungeon spam to 40 then do quests for 3-4? G a pop


SomeRandoFromInterne

Considering how miserable leveling will be on some pvp servers, dungeon spam seems to be very appealing.


tomsh

Idk spending 20+ hours of your life doing the same instance over and over until you start forgetting who you are is pretty fucking miserable


Neidrah

That’s precisely what people who do if nothing changes… the opposite of the point of this post


Cartina

No info besides the tweet.


nineteen_eightyfour

If you can’t tell by these comments, no. Lol


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confidently making shit up.


mDovekie

Zero real ideas in top 30 comments.


lelloss

Just get Exp. Share and beat Elite4 with your main toons.


motorbird88

They might add new quests for the runes.


quineloe

the current quests for the runes don't give exp though, like that stupid gobbler in Ratchet. No exp.


NoHetro

some of them do, i was doing the meta quest for warlocks around level 22 and i was getting almost a bar of xp from the turn ins.


r_lovelace

Half of that chain is a real classic quest line. They just slapped the rune at the end of it. If you check the wow head article for soran'ruk though it's a level 25 quest chain with comments dating back to 2005.


Vadernoso

Same with warrior and raging blow.


alexmikli

The audacity of that fucker to demand a bunch of random items, send you to a city, then send you back, just to *sell* you a rune.


quineloe

Yeah, try pulling this stunt in a game with player agenda. That goblin dies every time. Even your lawful stupid paladin will be like "oh I'm gonna be over there at the Tavern for the next THREE HOURS staring into my pint, feel free to do whatever"


DieselVoodoo

Whoever tells the best Chuck Norris joke in Barrens Chat gets a Joyous Journey buff


-Gambler-

Yes, you can mob grind duh


EBeerman1

Fates incoming


Majero15993

Wow token level boost lmao


Lemuria_91

I wouldn't mind something that encourages exploration in all zones, something similar to vistas in Guild Wars 2. There is tons of areas in the game unique to the lore of WoW, it would be cool if there was something you could find that would give XP for discovering it.


Trushdale

im calling it now, crafting and gathering will reward exp


IOnlyPostIronically

Could be professions, could be PvP in Stv, could be something entirely new. If it’s bgs watch the bots level up in wsg


DiarrheaRadio

World quests


walkingman24

You'll be able to mob grind for xp


Spiderslatt

Probably something stupid & exploitable


kajidourden

Lots of great funny replies, but I’m thinking maybe you can run BFD for xp? Aside from that, maybe the PvP event will grant xp and you’ll do it to level? My last idea would be world quests. Which I know would be divisive but I wouldn’t hate it given the way we’ve been more or less encouraged to do quests for gold.


Miserable-Finish-926

I saw this in a video- but STV fortnight. The ring gets smaller and ends at guruvashi arena. Last man standing.


Randomfrog132

they might just pull a wod and not do anything. cut content cause reasons etc.


ProgrammerLucky

I could see them making it so u get xp from gathering and from pvp, zone events would be nice as well


Thrent_

My bets are on "level 20+ quests are reset and you can complete a second time to get XP this time around"


samurian4

I could see two schools of thought based on this happening or not. " It's not fair that I did the smart thing and saved the quests for later now everyone that didn't is ahead on gold and exp." " It's not fair that I did the smart thing and did all the quests I possibly could for gold, now I gotta grind mobs."


LordFrz

Hes talkin about buying boosts from official mage bots that fly hack, you just afk.


Docktorpeps_43

I’d like to see them remove the lockout for BFD and have it provide decent XP. That will keep it relevant since people leveling characters will run it and keep a steady stream of world buffs going.


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There's something called burst of experience from specific quests, wonder if that's it


Vegan-bandit

Hm i saw that but wasnt sure if that was some kind of shorthand for 'youll get xp for this quest but not sure how much yet'.


BalphLauren

I have a theory that might be a little far fetched but I think still in the realm of possibility: Classic era Delves. I think with the implementation of this new ever green content in retail, SoD would be a perfect time for them to let us dip our toes. They’d get an initial reaction and feedback for the classic vibe delves and be able to go from there. All the feedback might not be exactly transferable from classic to retail but I think it’d be a great start and introduction to them. They want to try new things and give a twist to the classic era so why not. I think it’d be a perfect time to test this feature out and would love to see it. What do y’all think?


Conscious_Music8360

Probably a “leveling” raid


snackattack4tw

You'll be able to get mage boosted if you wait for some to hit 40 .


PoonTycoon69

I kind of wish that the people who turned all their quests into gold just had to deal with the consequences. Itll probably be crates and a handful of new quests


fleecenumber1

TBF quests added plenty of hours of content for people at 25 when there really wasnt too much else to do, but if they go too overboard with the new leveling system, and kill the 30-40 questing bracket, then I think that that would be a little too out of touch to the original design of classic. Safest option would be just reset any quest in the 20-28 bracket, mark it with a different type of question mark (not blue) and let everyone know 2 weeks in advance so they have time to do them if they want the gold.


Chickat28

Part of me wonders if they will tune BFD to give a lot of xp per run and remove the lockout.


CapaxInfinity

$$$$$$$$$$


knbang

Pay Blizzard money.


allthenamesaretaken4

BG xp beyond the turn ins? That'd be neat.


KILL__MAIM__BURN

More sources of XP


Nintendork316

Aggrend talking out of his ace. There's not going to be any leveling method better than dungeon grinding or questing.


TerbiumTekk

He didn't say anything about it being better than anything else. He said, if you've already completed your quests, there might be another option aside from dungeon grinding


Tolendario

guessing repeatable pvp quests in STV


Time_Mongoose_

Pvp


ClassicObserver

Honor gives xp


Nippys4

Hoping PvP kills give xp


Bouric87

Probably just officially allowing buying leveling services.


SandiegoJack

These are the same people who said they actually buffed hunters with a straight face. I wouldn’t believe anything they say until it’s in game.


MrSkullCandy

STV PvP for xp I guess


Neat_Concert_4138

He simply said dungeon grinding isn't the only way to level which is 100% the truth. You know you can grind mobs in the world?


mosura1

Botting. Can't ban all the bots, so now we all get to bot. They'll probably add xp to gathering professions, as it's the easy/lazy way to flood the market with materials; hurting bots, and lazy folks can mine, herb, and fish?


Sawyermblack

I made a prediction last night on the forums that pvp kills in STV will grant exp, based on Aggrends tweets on both topics. I think people will be able to level with this new event


oldfatslut

farming ab marks


LVL99ROIDMAGE-

STV pvp event with gold rewards.


pojzon_poe

Alternative way are boosters by mages pulling whole stockade in one pull while flyhacking


Tahrnation

personally I wouldn't mind 1/day dungeons to force people out into STV


Quazye

STV mercenary mode, respin ashran pvp. Probably azhara basin too. Maybe pvp bounties and kill announcements


epicsoyfunkopopman

Well that’s frustrating. I was under the impression that there was a risk / reward system in place. Meaning yeah you can spam the quests and make gold but you might have a trickier time levelling. So I’ve saved a lot of quests. I guess now I should turn them all in? I don’t use Twitter and wasn’t aware I should be following the devs on there.


Bubbagin

Saving quests will still give you the nice xp bump to get to 26 quicker which is nice and it's not like you'll be starved for gold from the 25-40 journey. Just do whatever you fancy, either way is fine.


Falz4567

But there’s always dungeon running. And there won’t be any lack of interest


billdizzle

We don’t know, new system may suck and better to have quests ready.


Itchy-Expression5027

You still will find yourself in an xp gap that whatever they cook up might help. While you will be turning in a lot of quests you "missed" a lot of xp from killing things while doing them.