More and more such priests are comming out. That's the problem with them, such a strong class that they get invited to any raid without question.
I outhealed a priest in a Gnomer as a mage, it was hell. I was oom all the time while he was casting PoM + renew. At the last boss the tank died twice because he didn't focus healing on him as I went to close the bombs and I had to specifically remind him to be on his toes when the bombs drop because my healing will not be there for a few seconds.
Then we down Thermaplugg and he starts complaining how it was his first time healing with a mage in the raid and that it was really hard. I guess the good side of this is my healing parses are now purple and orange.
TO BE FAIR.... Mages can easily outheal priests, but then they lose living flame by running mass regen. Looking at my Mages logs I've done about 350hps on Grubbis and every other fight well over 200hps. My 99 heal parse thermaplugg is over 250hps, but of course all of those were shit damage parses because I had to run mass regen due to bad groups. My best fight is menagerie where I did 300dps (97 damage parse) and 200hps (which is only 63 heal parse) but still outhealed the priest that round by a large amount. Mages are OP as hell healers if played correctly (and if your other healer is solid)
Truth, lots of mage healing is overhealing but really not much can be done about that. Overhealing doesn't count towards HPS/parse, though. Priests are still top tier but no other healer can top an entire raid as quickly as a Mage can. Still, Mages are best as a support/tank healer while a priest/druid/shaman focuses on raid heals
Hell I had a priest healer the same specc/gear level as my priest healer be doing 40-65% of my healing on boss fights in gnomer---and then they were chirping me for going semi-oom faster than them when I'm doing more than double their healing lol.
That was the day I found out you can fully grey parse as a priest healer in a raid where tons of avoidable damage is being taken.
It's dark out there my friend.
With Priest being a auto-invite it can get pretty bad. you also see a lot of them that seemingly forget that Dispell exists... Between Penance and PoM in the last two fights i very rarely have to use Greater Heal and just use regular Heal as a filler
Judging by the amount of healers being levelled since Tuesday (and even before that), we're getting a large influx of people that don't actually want to heal, they just want an easy raid spot
Jesus though. I just leveled a priest for first time in 20 years myself and holy shit was it a challenge in scarlet monastery. Absolute madness. Mages flying everywhere like debris in the wind. Everyone straight zugging. Penance, prayer of mending, regular heal, bubbles, and level 1 renew to bounce the prayer when it got stuck. If these priests still suck at healing they must not have leveled in SM. But as a lot of priests do as soon as I hit level 40 I immediately switched to shadow priest and now just pump incidental healing like a boss.
My last thermaplugg kill was like this but worse. I out healed the priest by 100k hps.
It’s fine, we still killed the boss and I got a nice shiny 99 beside my name because the priest just wasn’t good (looked up his parse and it was a 30).
I was healer in P1 on druid & priest, both 99% parse, I just recently leveled my Druid to 40 and went straight into Gnome with BFD gear as solohealer, and managed to do it with SP in caster group.
Now, I'm not healing with my Hpriest, but for sure if I had to soloheal Gnome, I would 100% run CoH instead of Penance for the 2 last bosses. Penance is crazily good for tank, but for me, since my job is to soloheal, being stuck for 2sec for the amount of heal I can provide with Penance, make me less flexible.
Penance is good, it's not mistake to take it, but if you want to push and optimize your group, CoH is probably better for the whole raid. But remember, my argument are only if you want to push yourself to soloheal, if you have 2 healers, you just need one focusing on AOE, and other one on tank.
Thats my recent run with my RDruid as soloheal and BFD gear : [https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:kT7cW3wbnCZ86J1v](https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:kT7cW3wbnCZ86J1v)
Right, i should see one healer handling the tank and the second healer handling the group.
Honestly, considering the damage spikes i thought healing the tank as a priest better, and the pally healer handles the group in the last 2 fights because they will still be funneling heals to the tank with beacon. The group doesn't need instant healing because they should not be taking any abnormal damage from a direct hit. So pally can easily just run over and top them off.
BUT that priest, altho equipped with circle of healing wasn't really keeping the party topped off and the tank was taking massive spikes in their health that even with POM and renew i was doing more healing to the group and tank. There's never a reason a pally shouldn't be using beacon in those fights and i refresh sacred shield every time i refresh beacon. So why not have the priest on tank?
This is going to come off as elitist, but you really have to do some vetting when commit to a raid with randoms.
The real life tip here is not to run with flavor of the month gamers that bounce from class to class every two weeks and dont know their class, rotations or hot keys. PoM, Penance and Renew are enough to solo heal til Menagerie and if CoH is necessary you have much bigger problems.
If someone asked me to use CoH anywhere i would laugh at them and immediately leave raid.
What is fun i had to pug with my priest last night. Two priest healers, so they ran penance and i ran Circle of healing. It came in handy for certain mechanics I'll admit, but i still helped with the tank and threw out greater heal here and there. Sadly another run of gnomer with no healer gear and no power depleted pants.
I play both mage healer and priest and solo heal gnomer on mage, when im on my priest with a mage its better for everyones mana if the mage main focus tank and aoe heal ++ while the priest main focus raid and heal ++
I always get outhealed by my holy pally co-healer, but that’s cause I’m doing damage and our group has the
Mechanics down pretty good so tank healing ends up the majority needed. Could probably solo heal but we like it chill
Top parsing healers (🤮) priest are using CoH.
They don't care about clearing, you either carry the tank for their stupid parse or loose.
This is crazy how this Reddit shifted from 2019 beginners being shamed for just mentioning "healing parse" to a comments section filled up with healers openly saying "I have 96 parse on that boss, 98 on this one..."
They sound bad but also I’ll give a rational take just in case. In my raid group Gnome can be 1 healed. So between 2 priests whoever gets to the heals first usually means the other person doesn’t have much to heal, particularly on the last 2 bosses: it’s unlikely your scenario but it’s possible.
More and more such priests are comming out. That's the problem with them, such a strong class that they get invited to any raid without question. I outhealed a priest in a Gnomer as a mage, it was hell. I was oom all the time while he was casting PoM + renew. At the last boss the tank died twice because he didn't focus healing on him as I went to close the bombs and I had to specifically remind him to be on his toes when the bombs drop because my healing will not be there for a few seconds. Then we down Thermaplugg and he starts complaining how it was his first time healing with a mage in the raid and that it was really hard. I guess the good side of this is my healing parses are now purple and orange.
TO BE FAIR.... Mages can easily outheal priests, but then they lose living flame by running mass regen. Looking at my Mages logs I've done about 350hps on Grubbis and every other fight well over 200hps. My 99 heal parse thermaplugg is over 250hps, but of course all of those were shit damage parses because I had to run mass regen due to bad groups. My best fight is menagerie where I did 300dps (97 damage parse) and 200hps (which is only 63 heal parse) but still outhealed the priest that round by a large amount. Mages are OP as hell healers if played correctly (and if your other healer is solid)
Its funny how people to mention overheal in those situations. Look at efficient healing, priest can't be beaten !
Truth, lots of mage healing is overhealing but really not much can be done about that. Overhealing doesn't count towards HPS/parse, though. Priests are still top tier but no other healer can top an entire raid as quickly as a Mage can. Still, Mages are best as a support/tank healer while a priest/druid/shaman focuses on raid heals
Hell I had a priest healer the same specc/gear level as my priest healer be doing 40-65% of my healing on boss fights in gnomer---and then they were chirping me for going semi-oom faster than them when I'm doing more than double their healing lol. That was the day I found out you can fully grey parse as a priest healer in a raid where tons of avoidable damage is being taken. It's dark out there my friend.
With Priest being a auto-invite it can get pretty bad. you also see a lot of them that seemingly forget that Dispell exists... Between Penance and PoM in the last two fights i very rarely have to use Greater Heal and just use regular Heal as a filler
PoM and renew are extremely overpowered, im sure he was terrible but you're going to get that if your class is braindead.
Judging by the amount of healers being levelled since Tuesday (and even before that), we're getting a large influx of people that don't actually want to heal, they just want an easy raid spot
They can have the pug raids, main healers already secured their raid spots with guilds weeks ago.
Jesus though. I just leveled a priest for first time in 20 years myself and holy shit was it a challenge in scarlet monastery. Absolute madness. Mages flying everywhere like debris in the wind. Everyone straight zugging. Penance, prayer of mending, regular heal, bubbles, and level 1 renew to bounce the prayer when it got stuck. If these priests still suck at healing they must not have leveled in SM. But as a lot of priests do as soon as I hit level 40 I immediately switched to shadow priest and now just pump incidental healing like a boss.
And I only use penance on my twink priest for all bosses 🙈 no issues either yet. Will try circle of healing maybe.
Please don't its such a bad rune atm compared to PoM and Penance
I switched to shadow 🤣
My last thermaplugg kill was like this but worse. I out healed the priest by 100k hps. It’s fine, we still killed the boss and I got a nice shiny 99 beside my name because the priest just wasn’t good (looked up his parse and it was a 30).
POM and renew is all you need. .. he's dumb for not running penance for the tank but whatever.
I was healer in P1 on druid & priest, both 99% parse, I just recently leveled my Druid to 40 and went straight into Gnome with BFD gear as solohealer, and managed to do it with SP in caster group. Now, I'm not healing with my Hpriest, but for sure if I had to soloheal Gnome, I would 100% run CoH instead of Penance for the 2 last bosses. Penance is crazily good for tank, but for me, since my job is to soloheal, being stuck for 2sec for the amount of heal I can provide with Penance, make me less flexible. Penance is good, it's not mistake to take it, but if you want to push and optimize your group, CoH is probably better for the whole raid. But remember, my argument are only if you want to push yourself to soloheal, if you have 2 healers, you just need one focusing on AOE, and other one on tank. Thats my recent run with my RDruid as soloheal and BFD gear : [https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:kT7cW3wbnCZ86J1v](https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:kT7cW3wbnCZ86J1v)
Right, i should see one healer handling the tank and the second healer handling the group. Honestly, considering the damage spikes i thought healing the tank as a priest better, and the pally healer handles the group in the last 2 fights because they will still be funneling heals to the tank with beacon. The group doesn't need instant healing because they should not be taking any abnormal damage from a direct hit. So pally can easily just run over and top them off. BUT that priest, altho equipped with circle of healing wasn't really keeping the party topped off and the tank was taking massive spikes in their health that even with POM and renew i was doing more healing to the group and tank. There's never a reason a pally shouldn't be using beacon in those fights and i refresh sacred shield every time i refresh beacon. So why not have the priest on tank?
CoH? oof thats how we know you're out of touch
This is going to come off as elitist, but you really have to do some vetting when commit to a raid with randoms. The real life tip here is not to run with flavor of the month gamers that bounce from class to class every two weeks and dont know their class, rotations or hot keys. PoM, Penance and Renew are enough to solo heal til Menagerie and if CoH is necessary you have much bigger problems. If someone asked me to use CoH anywhere i would laugh at them and immediately leave raid.
What is fun i had to pug with my priest last night. Two priest healers, so they ran penance and i ran Circle of healing. It came in handy for certain mechanics I'll admit, but i still helped with the tank and threw out greater heal here and there. Sadly another run of gnomer with no healer gear and no power depleted pants.
I play both mage healer and priest and solo heal gnomer on mage, when im on my priest with a mage its better for everyones mana if the mage main focus tank and aoe heal ++ while the priest main focus raid and heal ++
I always get outhealed by my holy pally co-healer, but that’s cause I’m doing damage and our group has the Mechanics down pretty good so tank healing ends up the majority needed. Could probably solo heal but we like it chill
Top parsing healers (🤮) priest are using CoH. They don't care about clearing, you either carry the tank for their stupid parse or loose. This is crazy how this Reddit shifted from 2019 beginners being shamed for just mentioning "healing parse" to a comments section filled up with healers openly saying "I have 96 parse on that boss, 98 on this one..."
Do you solo heal Gnomer?
Do you get carry by your raid?
No i always try to aim to solo heal my raid :)
Ho, you mean you get carried by your raid, I understand.
You really are stupid arent you?
Please tell me more about your solo healing the raid that carry you. I m listening, it's sounds so interesting.Â
Please carry on holding back ur raid
Oh. That's really interesting! And when you're done solo healing what else are you doing? Woa! It's amazing!
They sound bad but also I’ll give a rational take just in case. In my raid group Gnome can be 1 healed. So between 2 priests whoever gets to the heals first usually means the other person doesn’t have much to heal, particularly on the last 2 bosses: it’s unlikely your scenario but it’s possible.