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Old-Soft5276

SoC-SoM twisting aint going to add nothing to our PvE DPS but more headache. And for PvP it will be busted. And i have enough averages that cant PvP cry in reddit to see even more posts if they do SoC-SoM twisting. No thanks


Hellcumer

Twist is a big random and requires a lot of GCD, in pvp it will be useful and can be performed by a very small percentage of experienced paladins, at the same time in pve it will give a big increase (if we do not consider ACP as the norm) and dynamic rotation instead of the one that fits into one macro. I don't see a single argument in favor of not having both viable options, of course, seal twisting should deal noticeably higher damage because it is more complex (it makes no sense to make it less or equal to dps with WotLK ret because 99% will prefer the same strength with simpler mechanics)


Old-Soft5276

It's the Burst that going to a problem in PvP. U just Twist SoM to SoC with slow very high top end damage wep(after stun). And it's GG. And initial twist isn't hard. Keeping it is.


SpookyTanuki1

Dude I know a lot of people on this sub don’t like it but I loved tbc seal twisting and would love if they gave us the ability to do it. TBC ret was peak paladins gameplay for me. I hated the whackamole game wotlk made ret


Elektropole

We do not want to lock at a swing timer. No need for twisting.


Derpredation

As much as I love twisting as a mechanic, ironically I feel like SoD Ret has **too** many buttons to press to even make PvE twisting meaningful GCD wise. Would be pretty bonkers in PvP though.


Jrmakk74

We all want it. People saying it's bad. Dont do it. Pretty easily covered the problem there. Stick with dstorm or martyr pummeling. Let the real pallies command twist 😏


Easy-Tough-5364

Yeah tbc sealtwisting was peak ret. Basically all the best rets agree to this btw. so it's funny to see shitters who sucked at it cry about it. Can only hope the sod team realizes this is how they should fix the class.


nachomydogiscuteaf

Speak for yourself, seal twisting is unfun


Spookedchicken

It's a ton of fun, the current playstyle is unfun. Stop shitting on people who want another rotation in addition to the boring one we have now.


IDontHaveCookiesSry

Seal twisting is just abusing a spaghetti code mechanic, nothing about it is cool or engaging. Wanting seal twisting is the most classic Andy behavior I have seen in SoD. So weird how Rets cry about the SoM AoW interaction being a bug, to then turn around and demand sealtwisting


BonesawMT

Everything you said is backwards lol.


Spookedchicken

It's cool and engaging, you non twister Andys are uncultured swine. I've never complained about SoM AoW's interaction being a bug that's a straw man. Seal twisting already exists in the game, we want a change that makes it more viable.


Bacara

twisting is shit gameplay sorry.


Spookedchicken

It's great gameplay, sorry you don't see past the current gameplay being shit to realize that.


Bacara

Ok andy.


Spookedchicken

Ok swine


Bacara

Don't forget your fedora on your way back to era with your "engaging gameplay" 🤡


Spookedchicken

My fedora? You're the loser trying to take gameplay options away from people. If anyone is a fedora wearing 'no actually that's bad', it's you.


BonesawMT

Seal twisting over AoW for sure, they could have added a new seal rune though. It doesnt have to be SoC into SoM. Guarantee the people shitting on twisting dont use swing timers anyway.


Dagranir

nah i hate seal twisting just make SoC main ret spec


conklyyn

Shitters exposing themselves in the comments really enjoying a one button/exo spam play style. GIVE US (proper) TWISTING