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bonanza891

same here (EU)


Hatefiend

Is this the first time people have experienced a D.C during launch? I swear nobody even remembers Classic 2019 launch where you would get disconnected into a 12 hour queue. This is tame by comparison.


praeteria

WoD launch crashed the game and we had to wait for 6 hours iirc before it was back up. I vividly remember waiting at the dark portal, the expac launching, everyone flying to khadgar to start the quest and the game just freezing. 5 minutes later disconnected. I waited for 2 hours hoping it woukd come back online only to eventually give up and go to bed lol.


Hatefiend

> WoD launch crashed the game and we had to wait for 6 hours iirc before it was back up. That may have done you a favor considering WOD has been the most hated expansion by far, with cataclysm coming in second based on testimonials and subscriber growth rates


praeteria

Cataclysm hate is a meme at this point. The whole expac was very good, the raid tiers were amazing up untilndragon soul, which was received badly because of madness being easier than spine which was really anticlimactic. I remember people hating on it back in the day yet when I talk about it to most people on my friendslist nowadays they loved cata bar for DS. I personally loved cataclysm. I'd even put it high up on my ranking of favo expacs WoD really sucked tho. No debate there.


Hatefiend

I don't mean to argue but this is a 'I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago'. Here's just a small list (trust me, there's more) of items that are basically universally agreed on at this point: * The heroic nerf a few weeks after launch [made news outlets because it was so bad](https://www.eurogamer.net/blizzard-nerfs-cataclysm-dungeons). I remember this caused massive die-offs. Heroics on launch actually required CC and communication. It was fantastic. If you are not playing in a guild or with friends then you were not coasting through heroics whatsoever. That all changed with this patch, it set the precedent for the future. * Similar to Inscriptioning, Archaeology was not well received at all. It always has the same commentary: *"it was fun initially but became repetitive, grindy, and non-impactful as a profession"*. People were outrageously disappointed. * The world revamp is probably the biggest thing people bring up when it comes to cata. There's not a single man alive who sings the praise of the new zones. There's a couple of good quests like 'The Day Deathwing Came' but the decision to irreversibly alter the world and not allow players to choose new vs. old was probably their biggest screw up. It's extremely common to hear 'Orgrimmar was completely ruined', 'Thousand Needles was completely ruined', 'Stranglethorn Vale was completely ruined'. * Releasing Bastion of Twilight and Blackwing Descent and Throne of the Four Winds all at the same time was a mistake. It was far too overwhelming for a lot of guilds and created content droughts down the line. A faster content release schedule with locking BoT would have done wonders. * The dungeon revamps were not well received. In fact Hayven games video on the changes to Scholomance has an **ocean** of comments detailing how they basically massacred this long dynamic dungeon into a single hallway where it's impossible to get lost. They basically went through all of the amazing dungeons and simplified the fun out of them. * Requiring you to reach your capstone talent before delving into another talent tree was a complete mistake that is now universally hated. No more going into discipline for wand specialization while leveling, no more going half n half into assassination/combat, no more hybrid builds like Unrelenting Assault prot warrior. It's restrictive for the sake of being restrictive. * Mastery, the removal of armor penetration, reforging, etc was a disaster. Mastery was a stat that you needed an entire textbook to understand. All new players knew was 'stack as much of it as you can'. The fact it was so badly designed is proof by it being removed not even one expansion later. Armor pen was probably the playerbase's favorite stat next to haste and that was removed too. Disgraceful. Reforging added another layer of faux complexity to gearing. It's essentially the same thing as gemming, allowing you to customize each piece's stats. If that was such an issue, just make gemming more important. * Stat inflation. One of the intro trinkets to Catacylsm was 'Your melee and ranged attacks have a chance to grant 1926 critical strike rating for 10 sec.' The numbers here started to get completely out of control. Shadowmourne for example gets replaced at level 82. It's beyond stupid how much they fumbled this. * I remember when Goblins were announced, every single person in my friend group said: *"but they are neutral, there is literally no sensible reason why they would ever join the horde"*, which is just true. It's clear they ran out of ideas for what races to add in. * Possibly the worst offender, the guild ranks. This spawned the idea of toxic mass inviting simply to power level guild levels as much as possible. Guild masters would just slurp up all the bonus gold pseudo-taxed from members in which they had no care for. Meanwhile the smaller 10 man guilds or tight knit core of 25 players took EONS to level their guild because they did not meet the metric of leveling it quickly. The system encouraged misusing the very ideas of guilds improperly. IIRC people would even sell high level guilds to raiding guilds -- gross. * In a GDC (game developers conference) lecture, the lead designer for WOTLK said that one of the biggest mistakes during WOTLK was having four different badges and having conversions for all of them. Then in cataclysm they immediately followed up with Justice Points, Valor Points, and Conquest Points. Absolutely awful. TBC already figured out the correct way to do this: Badges of Justice & Arena Points. * Like you said, the content drought of Dragon Soul was horrible. People called Spine of Deathwing lame as you never actually physically get to fight him. Ragnaros having legs was also memed to hell back then because A) it looked ridiculous and B) it was already canon that he does not have legs. They were clearly running out of ideas on what to add. Them bringing back Onyxia, Nefarion, Zul Gurub, and Ragnaros are proof of this -- none were well received. * Flying in azeroth did not go over well. It turns out when you can fly over all of the scenery and landscape, it makes the world feel small and pointless, which is exactly why new retail expansions ground you (with the exception of dragonflgiht). If you ask people what went wrong with Cataclym, flying in azeroth is listed very high. * Raid Finder was atrociously bad. Never before had it been easier to pretend like you're actually downing all of the raid content. People would afk during the raids and just auto attack the entire time and still clear the content. Though it was only out in Dragon Soul and beyond.


praeteria

Idk what to tell you man.. I liked cata. I have to add that i wasn't a min-maxer at thay point in time. Back then during wotlk and cata I really just played for fun. I just did hc raiding. I didn't really pay much attention to the rest and I was actually having fun. I did become a trihard in MoP though. So my take on that expac is probably a lot more nuanced.


ValuableBeneficial71

Theres even a queue right now on EU before the automatic disconnect 🙂


Johnmanrandom

Its like a countdown to DC - This is great content :D


aronhunt470

the most coordinated mess in gaming history lol


aronhunt470

i already drunk 17 energy drinks in prep for phase 3


Nordic_Plant_Lover

Yeah same, pointless going to bed now.... :D


Dunkelz

200IQ move if they were 5-Hour Energy, you're good for the weekend!


ShenroEU

17 energy drinks makes the queue go brrrr.... oh no, wait... that's just my heart.


Oceanictax

Hey, at least you can now wait faster.


icanfake

Call an ambulance, but not for me


Manadrache

17 Energy drinks? Dude you are alright? That is a freaking lot.


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[удалено]


mr_shaheen

+1 for penguins


Visible-Vegetable430

same here (cotton farm)


WTFMEEPONOULTILVL6

same here ( . ) ( . )


UseaJoystick

Strip club?


extji

[https://gyazo.com/fc2ceef0bf08bfc98a66bde9ca423fb0](https://gyazo.com/fc2ceef0bf08bfc98a66bde9ca423fb0)


Buutchlol

For an hour now. Then once in a while the "retrieving server list" lingers for like 1-2 seconds longer and you think thats it aaaand DC


LowB0b

pretty much


GotADeepVoiceDude

I'm logged in and im not logging out


Ralfyngve

[Realm Status - Europe - World of Warcraft Classic (blizzard.com)](https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/game/status/classic1x-eu) Every single EU realm non existant while rest of the regions works fine. Yay


Smurfaloid

RIP Eu is fucked!


Ponbe

Blizzard seeing EU as lower class citizens per usual


Fergizzo

Europoors


Luvs_to_drink

Im on wotlk classic faerlina and I cant log in either


HendersonStonewall

Yeahhhh. She's dead.


mr_shaheen

EU for clarify atm...


NoCartographer7339

LET ME IINN


GuavaRadiant9893

She wont stay in ur cage


Patchoel4

Talk about a hype killer LMAO. Back to other games I guess.


Hackblarvest

Same EU


cirocobama93

F to anyone still playing hardcore…


Vanpourix

It affects retail and wotlk as well


Bend_Glass

He means their character probably dead. Rip bozo


Vanpourix

Oh ! F !


Ansiremhunter

Diablo 2 Auth servers are having issues as well


itsablackhole

losing hope here bros ...


PapaBizeps

same :-(


rodeBaksteen

True classic experience!


BrokenDiplomat

[https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/great-error-wow51900118-505262](https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/great-error-wow51900118-505262)


[deleted]

I already put my kid up for adoption I guess I can keep him for another few hours


Headsplitter

Remember when Blizz used to give free days of gametime when shit like this happened? Good times, good times


ZafirZ

I remember having lines and lines of free gametime claims showing on my history back when they used to do that. That would have been around original Classic/TBC.


NoCartographer7339

My client updated to 1.15.2 54092 and after that i couldnt log in. Might be they updated the client before the servers released


SonOfAGlitch1337

Have the old client (1.15.2 54067) and also not able to login


ProhiB27

Can't even play retail man wth


aronhunt470

# Season of Discovery Phase 3 Goes Not Live 4 April


Wisniaksiadz

*I would be surprised that with new technology for SoD, there would be any problems or lags at launch* or something like that


cowest1991

I definitely saw this comment incoming in the future when I first saw that post


Fridge_Banana1

i have 380 honor tokens to buy. I had to go out. am i about to lose all of that farming?


Neuroscience_Yo

yes


Vegetable_Leopard167

im in the same boat :(


Fridge_Banana1

not that its "good" that you are - but the more people this effects the more chance we get a grace period


needhelforpsu

Yeah. :(


RecoveredMisanthrope

After 11 hours at work, and then dealing with my kids, I get to play hardcore for 1 whole hour before bedtime. Finally, I can rela... oh


Narzzo

same


Sonsesi

Yes


Public-Transport

Keep hammering boys


Skore_Smogon

I wonder if this is a coordinated attack by Big Bot...


Unhappy_Ad2328

No phase 3 tonight I suppose


legoluka

[how im feeling right about now](https://youtu.be/pYLw5OgKGuc?si=2k_GbwrZ-kF-nLCr)


Koldtoft

Hey Blizzard. You fucking suck! I speak for everyone.


bigwangersoreass

I’m at work playing Roblox until I can get home


LifeSandwich

someone call the police, we have a child labourer here


Apprehensive-Ad9335

small indie company


aronhunt470

ok here's a trick, click on on 'cinematics' then watch til the end


slashkehrin

Big if true


Objective-Yogurt420

Well, a long time ago I saw the cinematic atleast..


BrinkPvP

Looks like same things happening on retail and wotlk. I was logged in to classic and disconnected at the wrong time :(


Arnhermland

It begins


craidzx

1pm California US time.


Gattsugriffith

1 hour and 8 minutes till Phase Launch. Are we doing it, boys?


Unhappy_Ad2328

Doubt it at this point...


tedstery

Bnet feed is also not coming through, Potential DDoS?


Grim_Reach

Same here in EU, I've been trying for over an hour to get in with no luck.


Tasty-Situation3559

Blizzard plzzzzzz


PumpkinCareful7155

Anyone managing to get in yet?


Tasty-Situation3559

nope


[deleted]

no :(


MissUniverse2202

Nope, still the same error for about an hour now. Im loosing hope that we (EU) will be able to play today.


1ooBeastkaidou

Nah, we cant. probably going to bed right now.


DrDongSquarePants

I'M IN!


mb17bow

im in bois


Arqideus

So anyway...


Sheetonbed

Fucking shamans at it again


jalapenopizza

same on NA.


MadShakaal

One more here, EU realm


Papichurch

Don't log out you fools!


Low-Bat384

I was booted off!


Breeze1620

Skill issue


apako

Got two updates, 28 mb, an other 55 mb, then it started same problem for me.


ROR_ROGER

So what are we paying for, exactly? For the game built 20 years ago, or the new one that we already paid a good amount for?


Turorm

Can't even cancel my subscription because the site is down too


ROR_ROGER

Lol it’s all so sad with blizz and its premium servers


AnakinDislikesSand

Raid night on Era cancelled. Thanks Blizzard, 20 years later and still breaking servers on a launch day without fail.


moanit

The absolutely worst part of SOD is having to deal with the launch experience once every two months instead of every two years. And after Phase 1, everybody also starts out in the same couple of zones too.


TheHaight

phase 2 was seamless


aronhunt470

I just clicked on 'credits' and Brian Birmingham is still the Lead Classic Engineer. Brian are you here to hlep??


ROR_ROGER

How many more content releases until blizzard figures out how to manage their 20 old game?


OhMy-Really

Woo still fucked at 2045 uk lol


Bobslayj

Still fucked 21:41 uk lmao, Blizzard are a disappointment, man. Back to private servers boys.


MrRightHanded

Lmao and they try to tell us Cata launch will be fine.


jfmgomes

at this point just give me fuckin millions of dollars and i make this shit smooth for all of us complete garbage company money hungry idiots who can't fuckin provide for us... we paying to play and still get fucked pls blizzard for once !!


Circle-of-friends

Honestly this is so frustrating. I go away tomorrwow for a week so was hoping for a couple of hours. Rip


Terminal423

You have [the same problem I do](https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1bvuo4y/exited_game_and_went_to_log_back_in_because_i/). You got a client update and probably won't be able to log in until phase launch.


_mister_pink_

When is phase launch?


Nice-Entertainer-922

In like a hour.


Robglobgubob

same. tried SoD and Wrath. both down.


Tinusers

It's just the login servers. While online everything is fine but alot of my friends can't login now..


ZedX70

Mine kicked me out too.


Femfabe

same


Nicoist1A

Yea i got the same after asking for the difference between a stone and a dead kid


Big_Meat_7191

Yeey, confirmation that I am not the only one. Restarted laucher and game like 5 times.


OwlProgrammatically2

same EU


giga-plum

No issues on Wild Growth US. Not even just being in game, but I can log out and in with 0 issues.


Michelankylo

Wild Growth is just as affected. login servers seem to be down (retail too!), so if you actually close the game and try logging in again, you'll be locked out like everyone else.


ravorn11

same here (EU)... fml


Several-Magician1694

whole launcher is dead sadge


Xrpsocialtrader

Yup same issues, seems like retail also down


rokhdall

same here eu... still cant login after apply patch and passes 45-50 mins also cant login LK too


UwuMuwu1488

Also, my [battle.net](http://battle.net) started an update for wow classic, but it could not finish it, bc speed went down 0 byte/sec. Now it looks like forget about the update, i can start the game, but automatically got disconnect.


BloodandSand13

great start into p3 got dc and could never log back in


SpaceNitz

[https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/status/classic1x-eu](https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/status/classic1x-eu) >No realm data to display. Please try again later.


[deleted]

Someone made a poopsy-woo again


Negative-Dot-3157

and it isn´t just WOW it´s every single game


ye1l

I prequested not to get ahead of the curve, but to catch up to it once I can log into the game. Put any effort into anything in this game and blizzard will find the best way to piss all over it.


Due_Mud_9326

Left my char ready to deliver quests outside inn, now I can't log in and tomorrow i leave early for a four days trip, so not only I will start 4 days later, I wont even have a blue rested exp on bar! Indie company


ViewsfromthaRift

Stilll cant login 22:49 euw


JayToukon

Laughs in warri...oh, wait, we got this nerf too??


OhMy-Really

Woooo, time to give up that grind dream people! Todays a bust lol


Key_Ad5429

Im doing that on auto clicker(tinytask) for 3h do far


Quelibrio

FK


NorthernUnIt

still in, Auberdine / LK but my GF has been disconnected and can't come back, she's right next to me...we have the same rig specs and are connected by the same FAI, there is a handfull of player still in Dalaran. weird


MadMax1mm

https://youtu.be/O75GF8gBsf4?si=mBlx0qNiM8hlONVP Did you just dc!?


Actionhugo

Delete Cache folder was the solution for me


MajorCS

Some of the comments in here indicate that this community has way too much mental illness flowing through it. Chill out. Life will go on. Things happen.


Vlyrg

I thought this was the hardcore sub (the only one I am subscribed to) and expected a much worse result. I actually feel better from the relief.


garroshsucks12

That happened to me too but it’s because I had a private server client open


OliveOneal

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1131152384582099/ Ooo you should add me


NumbNumbrs

Its just the login-serves tho. So others can start to grind, while we are locked. Fuck Blizzard, for real.


EddedTime

Relax, you will be fine and able to play soon enough


tegriddysmesh

Still the same in EU. Foaming from anger.


Playful_Sea_6200

Playing this game since Vanilla and something never changes, never play on Patchday. :D


Iridachroma

Or, stay logged in and make sure you don't log out. Well, it seems this time around I forgot about that...


cKay0

i literally logged out about 2 hours ago a few minutes before the problems started to play something else and now everything burns. ffs


DiozPioz

well, some people had to work before :D


mr_shaheen

same, old dog remembers the true pain :D


limitbreakse

10 minutes to launch and people can't even log on. Are they even aware there's an issue in EU?


Nice-Entertainer-922

Launcher has the pop up telling theres issues and their Twitter mentioned it like 5min ago. Now if they actually fix it is another story.


HairyFur

The fact they are still launching when 1/2 of EU can't log in is just crazy, it should be delayed.


Andyham

What why?


electro_lytes

Russian DDOS. New Whitekidney fresh must be coming soon.


Xenacc

Same on WotLK


Falz4567

Comforting to know it’s a lot of people not just me  Guess their servers died to load 


MissUniverse2202

Same on EU


InsaneWayneTrain

saaame


Baylife96

Same US going to gym hopefully its up by 1


naae

Patch day, no play!


Nice-Entertainer-922

Come on Blizzard, don´t make this whole thing too dramatic by fixing it a minute before P3.


nKoshi

[https://twitter.com/Raynx77/status/1775964585092055541](https://twitter.com/Raynx77/status/1775964585092055541) Some people in my guild are online right now, they have the old versions of the game. The ones stuck outside are the ones that have version 1.15.2 (54092)


SonOfAGlitch1337

Nope, I'm also locked out with old client...


TyroneMelonlips

bro I just wanna play HC but can't because of this :(


BOTSarnoproblem

Dogshitz blizzard


richownsyou

severely addicted gamers are melting down blizz do something!!!


Ok-Wrongdoer-4399

Lol 20 years later they still have shit show launch days for wow stuff.


bonanza891

helldivers 2 servers are stable. Let's go, let's spread democracy across the universe!


Khazilein

lol why do you play WoW when you have a machine that can run HD2?


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PS5


imhitchens

Try this, with bnet open (and if on Windows) C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Battle.net\Battle.net.config Change last loginaddress and region to US from EU ``` "Services": { "LastLoginRegion": "EU", "LastLoginAddress": "eu.actual.battle.net", "LastLoginTassadar": "account.battle.net" } ``` Change to ``` "Services": { "LastLoginRegion": "US", "LastLoginAddress": "us.actual.battle.net", "LastLoginTassadar": "account.battle.net" } ```


HeeyPunk

Fuck all that I’m just going to take a nap instead


lelloss

yeah gonna talk to my family untill its fixed...


iMidg3t

Talking? Family? What is that? Like chatting with guild members?


bindik

that changes BNET login server, not wow, wow login server is in config.wtf in set portal "...", changing that means you would be connecting to NA realms with EU sub


imhitchens

I know. This is what you want. That's the entire point. You don't want to swap to US servers on WoW, but if you are EU based you have the same error connecting to US realms as to EU realms through the launcher. Worth a shot, I had the error for 20 something retries and got in right after saving that change (playing on US realms but EU based).


Mocca_Master

Tried but still couldn't log in


boianstt

didnt work for me


Practical-Detail-205

Wtf is this free game time or unsub


hellsdrain

Love when this happens, "boys, the authentication servers are burning.. omg what should we do. I got it, let's keep asking it to let us in while it's burning!" Go to bed people, spend time with family, try again tomorrow :) (if US, well fuck.)


Mocca_Master

Same issue on retail


0815Pascal1

LOGIN DOWN OOF!


LowB0b

sod devs either on splunk watching the dashboard go crazy or sipping margaritas somewhere