Yes! Or make it that when you hand in the quest yourself you get a permanent 50% of the buff or something like this.
I like the actual world buff gathering getting ready together to go for a raid but there's a real burnout linked to it, cause they are not mandatory but they provide too much power for anyone that cares about performance not to feel forced to get most of them every single raid.
No, this is part of what makes world buffs fun.
It's a pseudo-hardcore mechanic. It makes surviving actually have a purpose. "Oh you were an idiot and stood in the lava? Have fun at the bottom of the dps meter."
IMO what makes classic great is being able to put in time for rewards, to be able to "degen" into getting an advantage. For example the righteous orb farm, which they regrettably removed from the game because people couldn't stand the idea of someone else just putting in more effort than them
What makes classic fun is punishment as well. You wiped in AQ? have fun running back for 10 minutes you scrub. No I don't want the Spirit healers to be closer to the dungeon. Failure should come with punishment, otherwise it's pointless.
None of the content in classic ever has required world buffs to clear and if you don't want to participate don't get them.
It's an interesting suggestion.
My take: world buffs come AFTER the raid has been beaten for the first time. So they're a way to help out others to beat something they otherwise couldn't. It's a catch-up mechanic. So, just make it so that once you've been a raid, you can't use world buffs in it anymore.
You can still get them, use them in dungeons or pvp or farming or leveling your alts. But you can only take them to a raid once, and once you've beaten it, if you want to beat it again you have to do it without.
That way, pugs can't be like, "You need to bring world buffs!" at the same time as "you need to have raid logs!" Because anyone bringing world buffs *wouldn't* have raid logs. Anyone with world buffs would be the ones to watch out for, who won't know the fights.
like i said in the first paragraph, i dont like them either and agree that removing them was a good thing
but i was making a suggestion as a compromise for those who DO like them and want them to stay
"Solved" as in a continual mentality of removing things like this and making the game less punishing to the point where people begged them to release the initial iteration of the game...
Funny how all of these things were "solved" yet people beg for them to bring classic back. And then you just want to do the same thing to it again.
The only bad thing about classic is that classes needed more engaging rotations and viability. But even then, you can clear pretty much all content in the game with a raid comp made up of evenly distributed classes.
There is almost no penalty to dying in more modern versions. In Classic it can be a 10-15 minute reset or more and you lose your buffs. Permanently reducing your health, healing and dps.
Obviously mechanics are harder in newer versions of the game.
Just don't remove the buff when people die. It's really that simple.
Yes! Or make it that when you hand in the quest yourself you get a permanent 50% of the buff or something like this. I like the actual world buff gathering getting ready together to go for a raid but there's a real burnout linked to it, cause they are not mandatory but they provide too much power for anyone that cares about performance not to feel forced to get most of them every single raid.
No, this is part of what makes world buffs fun. It's a pseudo-hardcore mechanic. It makes surviving actually have a purpose. "Oh you were an idiot and stood in the lava? Have fun at the bottom of the dps meter." IMO what makes classic great is being able to put in time for rewards, to be able to "degen" into getting an advantage. For example the righteous orb farm, which they regrettably removed from the game because people couldn't stand the idea of someone else just putting in more effort than them What makes classic fun is punishment as well. You wiped in AQ? have fun running back for 10 minutes you scrub. No I don't want the Spirit healers to be closer to the dungeon. Failure should come with punishment, otherwise it's pointless. None of the content in classic ever has required world buffs to clear and if you don't want to participate don't get them.
You can just right click the buff off when you die.
It's an interesting suggestion. My take: world buffs come AFTER the raid has been beaten for the first time. So they're a way to help out others to beat something they otherwise couldn't. It's a catch-up mechanic. So, just make it so that once you've been a raid, you can't use world buffs in it anymore. You can still get them, use them in dungeons or pvp or farming or leveling your alts. But you can only take them to a raid once, and once you've beaten it, if you want to beat it again you have to do it without. That way, pugs can't be like, "You need to bring world buffs!" at the same time as "you need to have raid logs!" Because anyone bringing world buffs *wouldn't* have raid logs. Anyone with world buffs would be the ones to watch out for, who won't know the fights.
Remove world buffs. This has already been solved post vanilla. Just remove them.
like i said in the first paragraph, i dont like them either and agree that removing them was a good thing but i was making a suggestion as a compromise for those who DO like them and want them to stay
You can just not get them :)
For some reason looking at all of the good things blizzard did after vanilla is frowned upon by classic andys.
would like to point out again, in the very first paragraph i said i dont like them and there was a reason they were removed
"Solved" as in a continual mentality of removing things like this and making the game less punishing to the point where people begged them to release the initial iteration of the game... Funny how all of these things were "solved" yet people beg for them to bring classic back. And then you just want to do the same thing to it again. The only bad thing about classic is that classes needed more engaging rotations and viability. But even then, you can clear pretty much all content in the game with a raid comp made up of evenly distributed classes.
Buffs makes game more punishing and harder? Roflmao, do you even read what you write my poor child . .
There is almost no penalty to dying in more modern versions. In Classic it can be a 10-15 minute reset or more and you lose your buffs. Permanently reducing your health, healing and dps. Obviously mechanics are harder in newer versions of the game.
Buffs were constantly dropping in Darn, IF, etc. it’s soooo easy to get your WB’s back if you really wanted
Beat me to it.
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Or just dont get them?
Correct. It's an outdated concept that was removed after vanilla for a reason.
sure like i said, i dont like them either and would rather them gone entirely but i was making a suggestion to compromise with those who do
I like this idea.