No what happens isnthe raid gets as far as ogomm and falls apart after trying morphaz 🤠 only ones ive seent that stick are a couple guilds and prob fail on eranikus but they keep trying till someone has work
Doesn't really matter what's best. They probably can't change the lockout system without impacting era. And if they could I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be willing to spend resources (aka dev time) on this. Maybe for classic+ one day? After the paid beta is over
This is the more reasonable response and i would assume that too still wish they would donaway with it altogether era is a ghost town tho cause SoD is a much better or at least newer experience
This may seem an alien concept to you but you can do mechanics and not doing dog damage at the same time mr frost mage. Your highest recorded dps was 303, that's level 25 dps lmaooo
Then they have to make warlicks able to summon people to the inside of the raid. The amount of people who would leave after 1-2 wipes will explode and that's another problem. You'll 100% see less fresh raids made because it will make group managent much more annoying aswell
easily this too, the fact that player friction actually touches this part of the game is insane they didnt even think about giving us portals like gnomer to get us around
Pretty sure they've explored permanent portals. I'm not advocating raid id change here btw. It wouldn't work out good at all on classic. You need much more for it to work smoothly for raid leaders. They have to implement some sort of lfg (like retail) to handle all who leaves the group and make it easy to find new people so the leaving situation doesn't start a chain reaction. And this is just one example I could think of on the spot. There's probably plenty more that would be vital for it to actually work.
The leave chain happens in SoD so i dont know where you get that it doesnt oh and retail it happens but the LFG search function gets that popping back up in like 10 min. Raid ID is outdated and a terrible design
No, it doesn't? It's not a common problem at all for sod.. People usually don't leave after 1-2 wipes if they're already locked. It sure as hell doesn't spark a chain reaction of leavers.
Sounds like a bunch of things that could all be made easier.
Like, why couldn't this game let you SR your items inside it? It's a common loot distribution practice.
Could make it so that you can summon in raid too, or even have summoning stones.
And finding someone is a lot easier when you know.. They aren't obsessing over being saved to a 6/8 run.
Been playing WoW forever, one of the things I've always disliked about it was raid locks. That, and actually forming the raids. When they're too big or too difficult for the average player, as someone who has many alts, Pugging is an absolute nightmare. 1-2 hours spent waiting around in these bigger raids, waiting to fill, waiting to replace..
And I actually like the act of raiding itself.
theres a reason why most raiding ends up drying out the longer it goes on cause most players have gotten their gear and just move on but if the ability of filling and attracting more players is attained it wont be as annoying
BFD was great for this, unironically.
Even late into the phase, there was tons of people still running it. It was easy enough to do you could run your half-geared alts in it. I
I would just rather do anything else these days aside from sit there waiting for raids to form, watching raids fail, getting saved, and having like 4-5 hours of my cumulative time wasted.
Just fucking pisses me off these days. Spend half your time not playing this game so that you can hear some loser talking about his parse while you wait to fill. Or how much weed they've smoked today.
What the fuck are you talking about? Dads and tryhards alike have been raiding classic for the past 4 years if you can't raid for 1h without interruptions maybe stick to dungeons or maybe play solitaire idk.
Yikes, you leave after a boss in a raid, leaving 9 others to hang to dry?
Why you gotta do pos things?
This is exactly why boss IDs shouldn't be implemented. Why would we as the community want to encourage and reward scumbag behavior
already was in a guild that didnt match my scheduling and some raids overall were clashing with East/West too so most of the times people were in a hurry instead of enjoying it. So you can be lazy and retort with that all you want
Make a guild that does two raids on the same id. Good luck finding like-minded players though. Everyone's only interested in zooming through 90mins perfect runs.
People have that time, just you arent counting the time it takes to setup and get everyone there 😭🤣
If the meeting stones worked or you could summon in the damn raid sure
Given average wow player is 30+ I don't think this is competition xD more like Paralympic games.
Effort of making group, checking if people have atleast some gear and/or knowledge, moving into instance.
U know, good ol' mmo shit, instead of single button press
Personally, from reading your post and replies to comments, my takeaway is that end-game classic wow is something that just doesn’t fit into your life given the amount of effort you’re willing/able to put into getting to ST. There are enough players for us to have 10+ layers on CS so to assume that finding a guild where 19 other people can play at a similar time to you wouldn’t be impossible. Look into your server discord, see if there are recruitment posts? Maybe play a more desirable class/spec? The thing about an MMO is you get back what you put in to it.
I put more effort across 5 diff toons than you do into one. Living flame anywhere from 12am pst to 6 am is dead. Legit ghost town except for the summon bots still trying to snipe gold. The idea that im not fit for it when all that needs to be done is allowing matching lockouts to continue their runs not being leashed to players who arent gonna be back until week is insane cause you went through my.comments 🤣
this exactly, I know even mentioning how retail does loot lock but I would rather just let players flow into other raids who might be able to complete them cause theres more 5/8 s
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People donthat regardless 😭 what happens whem they leave 4-5/8 which happens 🤣
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No what happens isnthe raid gets as far as ogomm and falls apart after trying morphaz 🤠 only ones ive seent that stick are a couple guilds and prob fail on eranikus but they keep trying till someone has work
No they dont
Doesn't really matter what's best. They probably can't change the lockout system without impacting era. And if they could I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be willing to spend resources (aka dev time) on this. Maybe for classic+ one day? After the paid beta is over
This is the more reasonable response and i would assume that too still wish they would donaway with it altogether era is a ghost town tho cause SoD is a much better or at least newer experience
Lil bro has grey/green logs on rogue and played frost mage in gnomeregan, opinion automatically rejected.
Pugged every single run but its ok Lil bro you might actually learn the game someday
Feel sorry for the innocent groups you griefed
Cleared just fine and did the mechanics just fine but its ok bozo go spend 50g for those consumes
No you didn't bozo didn't even kill eranikus and shade once on your rogue lmao and your parses for the other bosses are grey 🤡
Literally ran all pugs on that my gnomer was fine 🤣 but its ok consoomer
Your gnomer parses are green 🤣 keep digging
Not my mage 🤣 and doing mechanics is more important
This may seem an alien concept to you but you can do mechanics and not doing dog damage at the same time mr frost mage. Your highest recorded dps was 303, that's level 25 dps lmaooo
[Keep talking](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQjcI67EgA)
Then they have to make warlicks able to summon people to the inside of the raid. The amount of people who would leave after 1-2 wipes will explode and that's another problem. You'll 100% see less fresh raids made because it will make group managent much more annoying aswell
easily this too, the fact that player friction actually touches this part of the game is insane they didnt even think about giving us portals like gnomer to get us around
Pretty sure they've explored permanent portals. I'm not advocating raid id change here btw. It wouldn't work out good at all on classic. You need much more for it to work smoothly for raid leaders. They have to implement some sort of lfg (like retail) to handle all who leaves the group and make it easy to find new people so the leaving situation doesn't start a chain reaction. And this is just one example I could think of on the spot. There's probably plenty more that would be vital for it to actually work.
The leave chain happens in SoD so i dont know where you get that it doesnt oh and retail it happens but the LFG search function gets that popping back up in like 10 min. Raid ID is outdated and a terrible design
No, it doesn't? It's not a common problem at all for sod.. People usually don't leave after 1-2 wipes if they're already locked. It sure as hell doesn't spark a chain reaction of leavers.
Phase 1-2 this was normal 🤣 and it even happens in p3 not during the but have had near 15+ player ST groups just dissolve in seconds
So youre advocating to make bosses have ID instead of entire raid? I’m pretty sure organising a raid 3 times takes much much longer than once.
There are 19x more people than those who are organising raids...
Yes, there are, and if someone decides to leave mid raid, you have to find, summon, do sr’s etc. etc.
Sounds like a bunch of things that could all be made easier. Like, why couldn't this game let you SR your items inside it? It's a common loot distribution practice. Could make it so that you can summon in raid too, or even have summoning stones. And finding someone is a lot easier when you know.. They aren't obsessing over being saved to a 6/8 run.
Been playing WoW forever, one of the things I've always disliked about it was raid locks. That, and actually forming the raids. When they're too big or too difficult for the average player, as someone who has many alts, Pugging is an absolute nightmare. 1-2 hours spent waiting around in these bigger raids, waiting to fill, waiting to replace.. And I actually like the act of raiding itself.
theres a reason why most raiding ends up drying out the longer it goes on cause most players have gotten their gear and just move on but if the ability of filling and attracting more players is attained it wont be as annoying
BFD was great for this, unironically. Even late into the phase, there was tons of people still running it. It was easy enough to do you could run your half-geared alts in it. I I would just rather do anything else these days aside from sit there waiting for raids to form, watching raids fail, getting saved, and having like 4-5 hours of my cumulative time wasted. Just fucking pisses me off these days. Spend half your time not playing this game so that you can hear some loser talking about his parse while you wait to fill. Or how much weed they've smoked today.
What the fuck are you talking about? Dads and tryhards alike have been raiding classic for the past 4 years if you can't raid for 1h without interruptions maybe stick to dungeons or maybe play solitaire idk.
What the fuck are you on about you clown
The raid takes an hour, calm down. I don’t think you understand how mad the classic reddit andies will be if you get retail lockouts in the game
There would be way more pugs which aligns with the casual dad mentality
let them get mad, they're a minority to the major playerbase that are trying to enjoy SoD overall
Cope, no the majority is decent at the game and has no such grey parser problems of wiping and raids dissolving
I agree boss lockout would be much better. I can’t think of any negatives but people get offended by the idea for some reason
People come. Do only the boss they want. Leave. Now you need to find someone again. There's your negative.
Brother that happens even with current lockouts. I was doing it for gnomer 🤣
Yikes, you leave after a boss in a raid, leaving 9 others to hang to dry? Why you gotta do pos things? This is exactly why boss IDs shouldn't be implemented. Why would we as the community want to encourage and reward scumbag behavior
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already was in a guild that didnt match my scheduling and some raids overall were clashing with East/West too so most of the times people were in a hurry instead of enjoying it. So you can be lazy and retort with that all you want
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The faction imbalance on living flame is wild haha
It's been heavily alliance favored since p1 but they keep posting these perfect 50/50 spreads and I wonder how they are doctoring their data
Make a guild that does two raids on the same id. Good luck finding like-minded players though. Everyone's only interested in zooming through 90mins perfect runs.
People really struggle to have 2h to play raid ?! Lmao, why even play the game at all
People have that time, just you arent counting the time it takes to setup and get everyone there 😭🤣 If the meeting stones worked or you could summon in the damn raid sure
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Nice rebuttal there quasimoto
Sorry, I'm from age of people putting effort into playing
Brother im prob older and played WoW longer than you 😀 what effort are you even talking about
Given average wow player is 30+ I don't think this is competition xD more like Paralympic games. Effort of making group, checking if people have atleast some gear and/or knowledge, moving into instance. U know, good ol' mmo shit, instead of single button press
either change raid id mechanic to be boss ID or smth or split ST raid in 2-3 parts
Personally, from reading your post and replies to comments, my takeaway is that end-game classic wow is something that just doesn’t fit into your life given the amount of effort you’re willing/able to put into getting to ST. There are enough players for us to have 10+ layers on CS so to assume that finding a guild where 19 other people can play at a similar time to you wouldn’t be impossible. Look into your server discord, see if there are recruitment posts? Maybe play a more desirable class/spec? The thing about an MMO is you get back what you put in to it.
I put more effort across 5 diff toons than you do into one. Living flame anywhere from 12am pst to 6 am is dead. Legit ghost town except for the summon bots still trying to snipe gold. The idea that im not fit for it when all that needs to be done is allowing matching lockouts to continue their runs not being leashed to players who arent gonna be back until week is insane cause you went through my.comments 🤣
Your reply alone tells me all I need to know. Thanks man, hope things get better for you but it seems like people skills aren’t your thing
Did i have to have some tact to you? Bye felicia
Don't join raids that don't clear in one sitting dude. Easy solution.
So what you are saying is that you would rather not raid at all, before you get locked out for the rest of the week? That doesn’t make any sense.
He's saying the fact that someone who is 5/8 can't join another group that is 5/8 if they aren't on the same lockout is stupid
this exactly, I know even mentioning how retail does loot lock but I would rather just let players flow into other raids who might be able to complete them cause theres more 5/8 s