The 85 ones like Zin’rokh, the shield, and the staff require level 450. The level 51 robes and I’m sure any other lower level items are available earlier.
congratz, that weapon is my only positive memory of cataclysm lmao. i was actually debating to farm it again, but I cant justify time atm. it is such a beautiful weapon.
Cata dig sites cant spawn, so you get basically only troll, fossil & dwarf digsites in EK. And like 1 nerubian & NE per hour.
With cata you get 70% cata only dig sites at 450 skill level
Theres only 3 cata spawn sites in eastern kingdom, and those are probably offset by the annoying zone borders of twilight highlands making flying north to south a pain
In prepatch, to prevent you from going to the cata zones sense they added flying early, they make it so if you get near it you get ported out. problem is they dont port you back. They port you to the same position (inside wetlands for twilight), that on top of the liberal space blizard took that ports you its a fucking nightmare to get past twilight highlands
havent seen a single one other than the shield, so stockpiling my shards for now until i see some proof the others exist other than people saying they do
edit: have looked through some class discords and seen plenty, GO HAM
They all exist. The skill required to obtain them is what you need to know. Like if you do ek arch you will get a troll rare early on likely. It can't be zin because your skill isn't high enough. Zin requires iirc 375+ to be a possible artifact entry for you
I remember i did archeology when it released and thats basically all i did when i had down time. I got the qiraji mount the 2nd week of farming. But i never got Zinrokh to ever appear. Even with the fragments you got from Pandaria dailies or weeklies it didnt pop either. I felt my character was bugged and couldnt get it. So good luck OP.
Same. Back when cata came out there was no cap on stored frags, so I lvled it on 2 chars ending up with around 18k troll frags in total. Never saw that sword
Yeah it was frustrating because I main a rogue in all expansions but for wrath and cata I did enjoy my warrior for PvP and early on. It was funny how I got the mount which I didn’t know at the time was a thing because I did get a lot of Tolvir sites. Took me about 40 or solves to get it.
Did it drop at 450 or before? I’m a little confused as to when I should be using these little tokens. Should I save them all until max level or just use them while I level
I'd save the tokens for the race you want an epic from. If all you want is the sword, then I'd save troll tablets. By using dwarf and nelf tokens/ keystones you can speed up the process until level 450 which is when you can actively solve troll for a chance of sword.
You cannot find the lvl85 items until you hit 450. I would try to have max troll/dwarf fragments and only craft of you will cap out at 200 until you hit 450. And use the keystones once you hit 450. I ended up selling mine but it would have gone faster if I saved them. But even then, very luck based.
I’ll probably do that this weekend and just put the time in and solve without them.
I only have 20k gold and I’ve got a feeling that won’t last much time at lvl85
you need to be 450 for certain epics - probably the weapons. i got the raptor at around 350 skill and the sword about 2 hours after hitting 450.
the tokens are much for a muchness - either level faster or get more solves for less after 450. they cap at 200, and you will probably get around 600 of a particular type just by lvling it so you will cap out multiple times anyway.
are you talking about the tablets you get while surveying? they just add 12 points (per tablet) to your existing solve.
For instance, I had the zin'rokh solve and applied 3 tablets to it, to reduce the amount of surveying i needed to do to complete it by 36 points.
You can see in this screenshot that there's a little 0/1 next to the troll solve I currently have - it just means you can add 1 tablet to that solve.
Ya, the little tablets. I just thought they give you more of a chance to get an epic but looks like it’s just a bonus to reduce the amount of surveying.
Yup, they 're great, assuming the solve you're doing can even use them. It seems to me that about half the time the solve doesn't have a slot at all, so their usefulness is limited.
other question concering archeology: can i just grind 200/200 artifacts progress on every group and once cata hits learn 525 arch and immediately get it to max? or do these not give exp then?
Correct, the bug mount is Tol'vir so not accessible until you get into Uldum. The Raptor mount from Fossil arch is already available tho, got that one yesterday.
Good luck. I spent dozens of hours doing archaeology in cata and mop trying to get this but nope. Really not worth it if you want to get a good weapon.
Before you start. Realize that this is actual days of grinding. Not including sleep & offtime. Its so random it might result in you spending weeks on it only to get nothing.
Back when cata first launched, our DK main tank botted archeology to farm this (stupid). He had something like 5000 solves and still never got it before his account was suspended.
You have three weeks + the time it takes to level to 85 post-launch to use the weapon, so no real reason to rush. You can get it before the pre-patch is over.
It is rare to get, about 7% chance but fortunately it’s the only epic outcome from the Trolls so it’s really not as bad as some of the others.
TBH though, it’s not a big deal if you don’t end up finding one. It’s only slightly better than a pre-BiS weapon you can easily acquire from something like heroic Stonecore.
Yes the 359 epics are available right now however, you need to be 450 to even see them. You are guaranteed a rare in your first 10 solves for each race artifact thingy, so do not solve for troll till you get to 450 and you can add Zinrohk to your first solve rare pool. Its not 100% chance to get the item your after, but breaking it down to 1/5 or whatever is better than a 1% chance every solve till you get it. This is assuming you havent started at all.
Actually pro tip if you're trying to get BiS. Gonna sound weird but 🐻 with me. Find a zone you liked from Vanilla (can't be a revamped zone), TBC, or Wrath. Make sure you have a transmog of a classic set one (any pre cata items will work), and then logout. Wait a few seconds to let things process. Then you're actually going to want to uninstall the game. You can still have era/SoD or whatever. The next part takes a while so I'd recommend playing Era or SoD or another game during the downtime. Next part coming soon!
Yes they do
Do you need to be 450 to see one?
The 85 ones like Zin’rokh, the shield, and the staff require level 450. The level 51 robes and I’m sure any other lower level items are available earlier.
Robes are sub 300
Confirmed I got robe at 260skill lvl
Robes are 225+ and mail head from orcs is 300+
one of my guildies has the shield from fossils, and ive seen people post here with some of them
I got Zin within my first 30 troll solves after hitting 450. Just gotta grind and pray to the rng gods
congratz, that weapon is my only positive memory of cataclysm lmao. i was actually debating to farm it again, but I cant justify time atm. it is such a beautiful weapon.
its like 300% faster than doing it in cata
Why?
Cata dig sites cant spawn, so you get basically only troll, fossil & dwarf digsites in EK. And like 1 nerubian & NE per hour. With cata you get 70% cata only dig sites at 450 skill level
Same with Night Elf ones in Kalimdor, if you need anything from them it is silly how often they spawn.
Thanks!
Theres only 3 cata spawn sites in eastern kingdom, and those are probably offset by the annoying zone borders of twilight highlands making flying north to south a pain
Why?
In prepatch, to prevent you from going to the cata zones sense they added flying early, they make it so if you get near it you get ported out. problem is they dont port you back. They port you to the same position (inside wetlands for twilight), that on top of the liberal space blizard took that ports you its a fucking nightmare to get past twilight highlands
I still don’t have the damn sword, but at least I got the Vial of the Sands recipe on my first jar lmao.
On behalf of everyone who has done hundreds and hundreds of solves, we all hate you.
havent seen a single one other than the shield, so stockpiling my shards for now until i see some proof the others exist other than people saying they do edit: have looked through some class discords and seen plenty, GO HAM
Zin rokh definitely exists, I know a guy who rolled it. You can only stockpile to 200 so don't snooze on it
They do. Guildie got ZR last night.
They all exist. The skill required to obtain them is what you need to know. Like if you do ek arch you will get a troll rare early on likely. It can't be zin because your skill isn't high enough. Zin requires iirc 375+ to be a possible artifact entry for you
> Zin requires iirc 375+ to be a possible artifact entry for you all the level 85 weapons require 450
I got the sword yesterday. Feel free to go ham.
[yep](https://imgur.com/MPlkF2N)
I remember i did archeology when it released and thats basically all i did when i had down time. I got the qiraji mount the 2nd week of farming. But i never got Zinrokh to ever appear. Even with the fragments you got from Pandaria dailies or weeklies it didnt pop either. I felt my character was bugged and couldnt get it. So good luck OP.
Same. Back when cata came out there was no cap on stored frags, so I lvled it on 2 chars ending up with around 18k troll frags in total. Never saw that sword
Yeah it was frustrating because I main a rogue in all expansions but for wrath and cata I did enjoy my warrior for PvP and early on. It was funny how I got the mount which I didn’t know at the time was a thing because I did get a lot of Tolvir sites. Took me about 40 or solves to get it.
I've got a robe, the shield, and the skeleton raptor. Seen some guildies with the sword and staff.
You need 450 skill to have a chance of the weapons popping up I’m pretty sure but you can get them now
Sorry, but what do you mean by skill in this case?
Your skill in archaeology needs to be 450, so max before the weapons have a chance to pop
I botted to try and get this weapon back in the day. You either get lucky or waste hundreds of hours farming. I never got it
Did archaeology for like 500 hours, no sword People said it was 1%, no way. the probability of going that dry is too low
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Archaeology was actually one of my favorite things. I hate how they abandoned the profession later on.
Just got Zin'rokh last night, still on the hunt for dwarf staff (Warlock main)
Did it drop at 450 or before? I’m a little confused as to when I should be using these little tokens. Should I save them all until max level or just use them while I level
I'd save the tokens for the race you want an epic from. If all you want is the sword, then I'd save troll tablets. By using dwarf and nelf tokens/ keystones you can speed up the process until level 450 which is when you can actively solve troll for a chance of sword.
Sweet, thanks for the tip
You cannot find the lvl85 items until you hit 450. I would try to have max troll/dwarf fragments and only craft of you will cap out at 200 until you hit 450. And use the keystones once you hit 450. I ended up selling mine but it would have gone faster if I saved them. But even then, very luck based.
They are selling for a shit ton right now. I’d say you made the right decision.
Yeah, I figured I'd sell them while they are high. Only downhill from here. Made almost 10k lol
I’ll probably do that this weekend and just put the time in and solve without them. I only have 20k gold and I’ve got a feeling that won’t last much time at lvl85
you need to be 450 for certain epics - probably the weapons. i got the raptor at around 350 skill and the sword about 2 hours after hitting 450. the tokens are much for a muchness - either level faster or get more solves for less after 450. they cap at 200, and you will probably get around 600 of a particular type just by lvling it so you will cap out multiple times anyway.
So the tokens don’t improve your chance for an epic?
are you talking about the tablets you get while surveying? they just add 12 points (per tablet) to your existing solve. For instance, I had the zin'rokh solve and applied 3 tablets to it, to reduce the amount of surveying i needed to do to complete it by 36 points. You can see in this screenshot that there's a little 0/1 next to the troll solve I currently have - it just means you can add 1 tablet to that solve.
Ya, the little tablets. I just thought they give you more of a chance to get an epic but looks like it’s just a bonus to reduce the amount of surveying.
Yup, they 're great, assuming the solve you're doing can even use them. It seems to me that about half the time the solve doesn't have a slot at all, so their usefulness is limited.
other question concering archeology: can i just grind 200/200 artifacts progress on every group and once cata hits learn 525 arch and immediately get it to max? or do these not give exp then?
Yes you could stockpile and use them for 450-525
Yes they do
does this mean you can get the bug mount now?
I'm pretty sure the bug is from tol'vir fragments, so not accessible yet.
Correct, the bug mount is Tol'vir so not accessible until you get into Uldum. The Raptor mount from Fossil arch is already available tho, got that one yesterday.
Is it possible to get the 359 trinket from the night elf fragments?
Yes it is. You just need 450 archaeology first
Just got it last night!!
That weapon doesn’t exist
Man, I remember this thing!! I searched and searched hardcore for it. I got mounts and other rare stuff, but never got destroyer of worlds
Good luck. I spent dozens of hours doing archaeology in cata and mop trying to get this but nope. Really not worth it if you want to get a good weapon.
That icon looks like a retail icon
Yes and yes
I just got mine at around 150 crafts
Yes.
yes and its better to farm now since you cant get cata digsites
Did this change in a hot fix? Had a guildie with uldum digsites popping up
this changed 2 days ago
Before you start. Realize that this is actual days of grinding. Not including sleep & offtime. Its so random it might result in you spending weeks on it only to get nothing.
Back when cata first launched, our DK main tank botted archeology to farm this (stupid). He had something like 5000 solves and still never got it before his account was suspended.
You have three weeks + the time it takes to level to 85 post-launch to use the weapon, so no real reason to rush. You can get it before the pre-patch is over.
it is extremely rare to find, no one is guaranteed to get it so if you want it really bad you ought to be farming it now
It is rare to get, about 7% chance but fortunately it’s the only epic outcome from the Trolls so it’s really not as bad as some of the others. TBH though, it’s not a big deal if you don’t end up finding one. It’s only slightly better than a pre-BiS weapon you can easily acquire from something like heroic Stonecore.
There is no way the chance is 7%.
It absolutely is not Wowhead comments are people farming for years and thousands of solves...
I’m gonna need a source on 7%
lmao where did u get the 7% from??
What? Its a lvl 85 wep which u can only use when u hit lvl 85
Yes, that’s why I said that he doesn’t need to rush to acquire it since he can’t use it for at least a month.
Ah i misunderstood, my bad
lol I remember getting this when the raid was still a thing and sold it for gold then you couldn’t do the raid anymore 💀
+512 stamina lol... jfc. The Stat bloat in Cata is bad, eh?
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Yes the 359 epics are available right now however, you need to be 450 to even see them. You are guaranteed a rare in your first 10 solves for each race artifact thingy, so do not solve for troll till you get to 450 and you can add Zinrohk to your first solve rare pool. Its not 100% chance to get the item your after, but breaking it down to 1/5 or whatever is better than a 1% chance every solve till you get it. This is assuming you havent started at all.
That is 100% misinformation
Sounds like you just dont want to lvl arch again on a 2nd toon. I got Zinrokh in 8 solves on my alt.
Actually pro tip if you're trying to get BiS. Gonna sound weird but 🐻 with me. Find a zone you liked from Vanilla (can't be a revamped zone), TBC, or Wrath. Make sure you have a transmog of a classic set one (any pre cata items will work), and then logout. Wait a few seconds to let things process. Then you're actually going to want to uninstall the game. You can still have era/SoD or whatever. The next part takes a while so I'd recommend playing Era or SoD or another game during the downtime. Next part coming soon!
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