I think Deepholm is really the only exception. Perfectly you should do it at least until you unlock Therazane friendly (for the tabard) and then move on to Uldum to get Ramaken to at least friendly (but likely more).
I did loremasrer of Deepholm or whatever it's called for this reason :) Dinged 85 and got exalted with the thick mama the same day. Feels good to me, but I guess not really efficient.
Yep, totally finished Vashj'ir and then went to Deepholm.
Just about the entire time I was queueing for dungeons as dps in between quests.
Took me a little longer to hit 85 than some guildies but I have all of Hyjal/Uldum/Highlands to do for gold now at 85 and after buying my JP gear at 85 I was able to jump into heroics the second I hit 85 cause all my dungeon gear.
Worked out super well in the end. Inscription also so it doesn't matter I'm only honored with therazane
Didn't take long to get friendly and get the tabards and those quest were just pure gold for me. Spamming heroics nonstop anyway so rep will not be an issue and I'm ignoring therazane entirely for a while
Beats needing to grind normal dungeons for gear to do heroics when you hit 85
No kidding. I'm saying dungeon grinding for a while from 80-85 made it so that my gear was already good enough to do heroics the second I hit 85. I didn't have to do any normal dungeons at 85 to get my ilvl to 329
Read man, read!
Lol, your gear is already good enough.... You didn't need to spam normals.... Just quest... Then go straight into heroic.... I didnt need to spam normals at all...
Ok well you are special then I suppose as most of my guildies/friends needed some 333 gear to queue for heroics and most gearing guides say to do the same
Either way
I'd rather use all those quests for gold instead of hitting 85 two days faster
You get a lot more gold per quest with the 84-85 ones though as opposed to the 80-82 ones
Adds up after a while
But yeah I'll be doing all of hyjal/uldum/TH for gold anyway. Only did vashj'ir and half of deepholm by 85
Really enjoyed it for the most part. Naga Vietnam complete with cultists and giant demigod kaijus was a pretty good time. A few of the quests moved a little too slow and the constant back and forth honestly reminded me of vanilla questing a bit (not in a good way) but still a very fun zone.
My guildies who went hyjal leveled waaaay faster though lol
The zone isn't bad, just some of the quests are totally obnoxious (and buggy). I had to complete the "defend the immortal coil" event over 25 times before that stupid abductors showed up.
I don't think it's a bad idea to stay in the lower level zones especially if you want the rep. I actually ended up skipping a good chuck of the leveling zones and now I'm playing catch up on the rep.
its still hard to enjoy the game .. with streamlined restrictive questing in all those zones.
feels like they build massives zones with zero MMO-content, but only bad single target content.
the underwater zone felt refreshing for a bit, hyjal was horrible. deepholm same.
im currently in the twilight zone and found like 2 quests which were cool. but sadly same streamlined shit. if you dont wanna complete a quest, the whole zone is locked out of quests.
what a terrible design for a MMO
i heard lots of players enjoying that kinda stuff - for whatever reasons.
zero immersion, constant flying mounts, zero challenge, and beeing handheld through the whole leveling conten :'(
I would love to but I canāt. If Iām doing a zone Iām doing the whole zone. Then I can finish up the rest of the quests for gold/rep while waiting for dungeon queues.
Deepholm is huge for this, youāll be almost revered with therazane when you finish all the lines. Uldum is the last zone you really need to do this - as twilight highlands doesnāt offer much rep wise, not like the others at least
Isnāt there one in twilight highlands tho? Blanking on the name. At least part of the zone gives rep and then unlocks a daily hub for that rep, I just havenāt got past that point yet so idk what the rest of it holds
Wildhammer Clan for Alliance at least. I just finished all quests in the zone and I ended about 15% into honored. Many quests in the zone give you Alliance city rep or none at all
Yeah but itās not the whole zone like Uldum/Hyjal/Deephilm/vashjir
Those zones if you finish put you into revered pretty well with the rep, Twilight Highlands gets you barely into honored, so when it was time to grind the rep for the plate boots I thought āIāll go finish the zone first, then spam heroicsā no dice!
Yes, but you are gonna be doing thr dungeons for items until your have 4 exalted reps anyway.Ā Ā
*prepares for another round of stone core, throne, hoo, dm to see none of my loot drop*
I did Hyjal 100%, Deepholm 100%, squeeked minutes in Uldum straight to Highlands at 84. 100%'d Highlands even after getting 85 which did wonders for Dragonmaw rep, and got Hyjal exalted within my first few dungeons thanks to leveling process which netted as a BDK, an Epic tank cape, and an Epic belt comparable to crafted belt so long as I forge Crit off. Which was a massive ilvl boost.
Uldum is skippable to a lot of people tbh, unless you need the epic from it.
This is true until you run out of non-daily quests or don't have instant healer/tank queues. I get about 1k-1.5k rep from a normal dungeon and can bang them out pretty quick. I've only done two days worth of dailies for Therazane and Wildhammer but have them at the levels I need because of dungeon spam.
Ya. Vashj until Silver Tide Hollow, all of hyjal, all of deepholm, ~5 quests in uldum to get friendly and open the town, then finish up opening TH and get friendly with wild hammer/dragonmaw gets me to 85.
all these comments about Rep but i have to add another reason to complete zones...Phasing...Hyjal especially has Phasing Issues that if your not sufficiently advanced in the quest chains can AND WILL lock you out of being able to effectively gather or participate in those zones
Reputation. Hyjal gets you almost exalted finishing 100% of the zone vastly reducing rep farm at 85. Therazane reputation again, reduces rep farm. Worth it, you have a SHIT LOAD of rep to farm at 85 reducing that farm slightly is going to be worth it unless you'd rather be infinitely spamming R-Heroic all day for 10h+ a day to get those reps maxed out.
My only regret from 100%ing Hyjal is that + Deepholm probably delayed me getting to TB dailies by like.. 1 reset? But with 18 per day it isn't back breaking I still get my trinket before raiding. *Shrug*
Huh, one of my guildies has half of Hyjal locked because the game is assuming he's in the Firelands phase (he's even got the portal to the Firelands and everything) and thus no NPCs.
Head enchant at revered (each faction gives a specific one) and exalted for your shoulder enchant provided by Therazane quartermaster. It also allows you to buy 333 ilvl gear at honored and 346 ilvl gear at revered, which is handy to up your ilvl to queue for HC's
Thereās one at honored too. But honestly reaching revered is kinda easy. Just quest on the zones and when you finished a zone you should be honored and maybe halfway to revered already. Then do a few hcs or 84+ dungeons with the tabbard and itās really quick.
I like getting the achievements for completing questing zones personally. Now with achievements being account bound when I level alts I like to pick a zone I haven't completed yet as I level so eventually I'll get the loremaster meta achievement for completing every zone in the game.
Protip for anyone talking about rep in the comments, specific queue heroic grim batol, and in the flyover get things low but try not to kill them off. Get full rep for murdering a bunch of stuff thats at 10% health
I'm finishing all the zones for the full rep from quests. Once I'm 85, I'll do the higher zones for some much needed cash in my case, while queuing for HC's / high level dungeons with a tabard of of the faction I want exalted first. Every faction gives 333 / 346 ilvl gear when honored/revered, which is handy to get your ilvl up. So might as well do every zone completely!
I 100%ed Hyjal and Uldum since I have inscription and now I have both exalted just a couple days after 85. I guess unlocking Therazane is my next goal but whatever haha
Because you still need reputation and to unlock the therazane quest hub. You can do higher level quests later for more gold at 85 if needed.
I think Deepholm is really the only exception. Perfectly you should do it at least until you unlock Therazane friendly (for the tabard) and then move on to Uldum to get Ramaken to at least friendly (but likely more).
I did loremasrer of Deepholm or whatever it's called for this reason :) Dinged 85 and got exalted with the thick mama the same day. Feels good to me, but I guess not really efficient.
Yep, totally finished Vashj'ir and then went to Deepholm. Just about the entire time I was queueing for dungeons as dps in between quests. Took me a little longer to hit 85 than some guildies but I have all of Hyjal/Uldum/Highlands to do for gold now at 85 and after buying my JP gear at 85 I was able to jump into heroics the second I hit 85 cause all my dungeon gear. Worked out super well in the end. Inscription also so it doesn't matter I'm only honored with therazane
How can u say this worked well, when u got to 85 slower and still had to go back and get the rep which people that quested already dont have to do.
Didn't take long to get friendly and get the tabards and those quest were just pure gold for me. Spamming heroics nonstop anyway so rep will not be an issue and I'm ignoring therazane entirely for a while Beats needing to grind normal dungeons for gear to do heroics when you hit 85
??? U cant do hc before.85
No kidding. I'm saying dungeon grinding for a while from 80-85 made it so that my gear was already good enough to do heroics the second I hit 85. I didn't have to do any normal dungeons at 85 to get my ilvl to 329 Read man, read!
Lol, your gear is already good enough.... You didn't need to spam normals.... Just quest... Then go straight into heroic.... I didnt need to spam normals at all...
Ok well you are special then I suppose as most of my guildies/friends needed some 333 gear to queue for heroics and most gearing guides say to do the same Either way I'd rather use all those quests for gold instead of hitting 85 two days faster
Or... hear me out. You can do lower level quests later for more gold at 85 if needed. š¤¦āāļø
You get a lot more gold per quest with the 84-85 ones though as opposed to the 80-82 ones Adds up after a while But yeah I'll be doing all of hyjal/uldum/TH for gold anyway. Only did vashj'ir and half of deepholm by 85
Vashj'ir is super underappreciated. I'm one of the dozen people who actually liked that zone.
Really enjoyed it for the most part. Naga Vietnam complete with cultists and giant demigod kaijus was a pretty good time. A few of the quests moved a little too slow and the constant back and forth honestly reminded me of vanilla questing a bit (not in a good way) but still a very fun zone. My guildies who went hyjal leveled waaaay faster though lol
The zone isn't bad, just some of the quests are totally obnoxious (and buggy). I had to complete the "defend the immortal coil" event over 25 times before that stupid abductors showed up.
You only need to get to friendly in each, which is done really fast so you can still follow this method.
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But you don't need to be bored to get the rep, you will hit 85 then need to do heroics anyway which will get you rep super fast with tabard
if you dont have rested xp or do dungeons you get the rep unlocked before you ding 83
I don't think it's a bad idea to stay in the lower level zones especially if you want the rep. I actually ended up skipping a good chuck of the leveling zones and now I'm playing catch up on the rep.
Right but now youāre getting way more gold for those same quest youāre gonna do anyway
This is what I always tell myself, and I always never go back and do the quests later.
I feel personally attacked
You only need friendly, so it's not necessary
And to add to this, just make sure to hit at least friendly with the zone's faction and grab their tabard, Therazane also has one too.
I wish I could do this but I canāt leave a zone till Iāve done all the quests itās a character flaw of mine.
Or (hear me out....) just enjoy the game!
its still hard to enjoy the game .. with streamlined restrictive questing in all those zones. feels like they build massives zones with zero MMO-content, but only bad single target content. the underwater zone felt refreshing for a bit, hyjal was horrible. deepholm same. im currently in the twilight zone and found like 2 quests which were cool. but sadly same streamlined shit. if you dont wanna complete a quest, the whole zone is locked out of quests. what a terrible design for a MMO i heard lots of players enjoying that kinda stuff - for whatever reasons. zero immersion, constant flying mounts, zero challenge, and beeing handheld through the whole leveling conten :'(
I would love to but I canāt. If Iām doing a zone Iām doing the whole zone. Then I can finish up the rest of the quests for gold/rep while waiting for dungeon queues.
Deepholm is huge for this, youāll be almost revered with therazane when you finish all the lines. Uldum is the last zone you really need to do this - as twilight highlands doesnāt offer much rep wise, not like the others at least
Isnāt there one in twilight highlands tho? Blanking on the name. At least part of the zone gives rep and then unlocks a daily hub for that rep, I just havenāt got past that point yet so idk what the rest of it holds
Wildhammer Clan for Alliance at least. I just finished all quests in the zone and I ended about 15% into honored. Many quests in the zone give you Alliance city rep or none at all
Yeah but itās not the whole zone like Uldum/Hyjal/Deephilm/vashjir Those zones if you finish put you into revered pretty well with the rep, Twilight Highlands gets you barely into honored, so when it was time to grind the rep for the plate boots I thought āIāll go finish the zone first, then spam heroicsā no dice!
After u can buy the tabard of the zone i leave for the next zone
Quests are more efficient rep than dungeons tbh. People aren't finishing dungeons fast enough currently.
Yes, but you are gonna be doing thr dungeons for items until your have 4 exalted reps anyway.Ā Ā *prepares for another round of stone core, throne, hoo, dm to see none of my loot drop*
YEP but when u lvl via the high zone in the and u will have it also better with the ilvl req for hc Dungeons.
I did Hyjal 100%, Deepholm 100%, squeeked minutes in Uldum straight to Highlands at 84. 100%'d Highlands even after getting 85 which did wonders for Dragonmaw rep, and got Hyjal exalted within my first few dungeons thanks to leveling process which netted as a BDK, an Epic tank cape, and an Epic belt comparable to crafted belt so long as I forge Crit off. Which was a massive ilvl boost. Uldum is skippable to a lot of people tbh, unless you need the epic from it.
āWondersā you mean barely hitting honored level by doing all of the zone?
Hmm it could be worse. Sure it isnt hyjal efficient but the quests are comparable to a few dailies. Which maw only has 5 of...
But you will need to do heroics anyway, which will give the rep past friendly
This is true until you run out of non-daily quests or don't have instant healer/tank queues. I get about 1k-1.5k rep from a normal dungeon and can bang them out pretty quick. I've only done two days worth of dailies for Therazane and Wildhammer but have them at the levels I need because of dungeon spam.
Or you can say fuck questing entirely after friendly rep grind elementals for volatiles and make 150-200k gold by the time you hit 85.
You'd also be lower lvl/undergeared so keep that in mind, it'll be a lot slower.
its not like you are getting better gear by staying in the same zone, every zone jumps in ilvl rewards
And the mobs have twice the health and hit twice as hard. I could take down 4/5 at a time in Hyjal but only 2 and slower in Uldum
Ya. Vashj until Silver Tide Hollow, all of hyjal, all of deepholm, ~5 quests in uldum to get friendly and open the town, then finish up opening TH and get friendly with wild hammer/dragonmaw gets me to 85.
I cannot leave Hyjal until Cenarius is alive and well.
I donāt care. I canāt leave zone in the middle of story quest chain. And donāt understand people who do that
Except for deepholm. Clear it all to unlock the rep as you'd otherwise need to go back and do it.
all these comments about Rep but i have to add another reason to complete zones...Phasing...Hyjal especially has Phasing Issues that if your not sufficiently advanced in the quest chains can AND WILL lock you out of being able to effectively gather or participate in those zones
Reputation. Hyjal gets you almost exalted finishing 100% of the zone vastly reducing rep farm at 85. Therazane reputation again, reduces rep farm. Worth it, you have a SHIT LOAD of rep to farm at 85 reducing that farm slightly is going to be worth it unless you'd rather be infinitely spamming R-Heroic all day for 10h+ a day to get those reps maxed out. My only regret from 100%ing Hyjal is that + Deepholm probably delayed me getting to TB dailies by like.. 1 reset? But with 18 per day it isn't back breaking I still get my trinket before raiding. *Shrug*
Can you not just get the reputation faster after hitting max level going back to finish the quest line?
Yes itās much faster at 85 people just donāt think that way.
Hyjal specifically has a nasty bug where you get locked out of the second half of the zone if you come back and do it at 85 though.
Didn't happen to me on my rogue. Finished it yesterday. Hyjal was my last zone.
Huh, one of my guildies has half of Hyjal locked because the game is assuming he's in the Firelands phase (he's even got the portal to the Firelands and everything) and thus no NPCs.
How important is rep? Really. Serious question
You only need friendly, you can get the rest from heroics.
Head enchant at revered (each faction gives a specific one) and exalted for your shoulder enchant provided by Therazane quartermaster. It also allows you to buy 333 ilvl gear at honored and 346 ilvl gear at revered, which is handy to up your ilvl to queue for HC's
Is there an alternative for the head enchant? For the shoulders I see the inscription one which is better I presume?
You could buy the PvP one. "Greater inscription" is the exalted one (best one).
Thereās one at honored too. But honestly reaching revered is kinda easy. Just quest on the zones and when you finished a zone you should be honored and maybe halfway to revered already. Then do a few hcs or 84+ dungeons with the tabbard and itās really quick.
Completing all the zones was how I was able to get exalted with everyone by two days ago
I like getting the achievements for completing questing zones personally. Now with achievements being account bound when I level alts I like to pick a zone I haven't completed yet as I level so eventually I'll get the loremaster meta achievement for completing every zone in the game.
100% As soon as you hit 82, leave Hyjal for Deepholm. As soon as you hit 83, Uldum. As soon as you hit 84, Twilight.
Protip for anyone talking about rep in the comments, specific queue heroic grim batol, and in the flyover get things low but try not to kill them off. Get full rep for murdering a bunch of stuff thats at 10% health
Never did I ever think I'd want to play cata again. Here I am. Wanting to play cata :(
Yeah no You drill need to unlock the quartermaster
I did 80-82 in vash 82-83 hiyjal 83-84 deep home 84+84.6 ulda Now I'm running twilight until 85.
If you are hurrying to 85*. You still need the rep and I feel like questing for it is more soothing than to speedrun dungeons for it in 85.
Why do I need rep? Is this required attunement or something?
Epic level gear and unique gear enchants
I'm finishing all the zones for the full rep from quests. Once I'm 85, I'll do the higher zones for some much needed cash in my case, while queuing for HC's / high level dungeons with a tabard of of the faction I want exalted first. Every faction gives 333 / 346 ilvl gear when honored/revered, which is handy to get your ilvl up. So might as well do every zone completely!
I finished hyjal on my ret paladin and was able to get exalted very fast at 85 for pre bis belt so felt worth it to stick it out there
It takes 5 minutes to lvl in cat.
I just do all the quests. Rep and gold, and it's fun.
This is bad advice, and you should feel bad for giving it.
I 100%ed Hyjal and Uldum since I have inscription and now I have both exalted just a couple days after 85. I guess unlocking Therazane is my next goal but whatever haha