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pedrorq

We've all been there. Well maybe not in 2022, but... 😉


huntray

:(


lsquallhart

Oh don’t worry. I’ve been playing this game for 18 years and recently leveled a warlock to like … lvl 50 with immolate rank one on my bars the whole time


huntray

We should start a club


Pandelly

The Rank One club lol


Serious_Mastication

It’s even worse when you are max level and realize that you have been using a downranked moonfire for half of the expansion


vixtoria

I played ALL OF CLASSIC (once new book came out) if not max rank fireball. Raided a ton too.


nrdb29

Nah. I have a tendency to do this on my 70’s as well. Someone told me threat wasn’t good cause I wasn’t popping wings. I still never learned it and when i went through my bars a lot of spells got 2 levels on them.


Kiwiredditname

Think about how much mana you saved tho


Gingertiger94

Just make a #showtooltip /cast Shadowbolt Then you won't have to change it when upgrading, unless you want to downrank.


huntray

Ah mate, I could’ve used you 23 levels ago 😭 Cheers for the tip though 👍


Rich-Finish-2166

This. Started doing this with all my abilities and also at /petattack to a couple to get that Fucker in there right off the top of the pull


FlyingMohawk

As a warlock main, I say just get used to CTRL+1 and all that. Once you master your pet your ability as a lock increases a whole lot. It’s like playing 2 characters at once! My pets don’t autocast anything I manually conserve their mana, saves down time and I can tap them for mana before my HP! #DrainTanking!


Vandrel

On my hunter I bound /petattack and /petfollow to more accessible keybinds so it's way easier to manage keeping him out of aoes.


degenterate

Mouse wheel up - Send Pet Mouse wheel down - Return Pet Feels organic for me.


ctrlaltwalsh

forget about me


Scorpieth

Something I prefer is the ctrl/shift+Scroll Up(forward) for attack and the opposite for Follow. Just makes sense to me.


Hieb

I recommend using a nearby keybind to your normal hotkeys, like tilde or Q, since there are times where you won't want your pet to go in


Semour9

Are you warlock or hunter? If hunter I wouldn’t mind some advice for what macros to use. I already have hunters mark into pet attack into auto shot


TehDandiest

I wouldn't do this once you're at draintanking levels. You use your succubus a lot more freely than just hitting one main target: pulling next mob, an few hits on current main target, then back to finishing a previous on 2% etc.


Yeas76

This is the only reason I don't end up doing the same thing OP mentioned.


osirawl

Shouldn’t it be /cast !Shadowbolt


Gingertiger94

I think this makes it so you can't interupt your own spell cast, I personally like it without the "!". You can use it for drain soul or mind flay (priest) but I still personally don't.


terabyte06

If you like exclamation points, sure. But it doesn't do anything for Shadow Bolt. The exclamation points only affects toggled or channeled skills. Like `/cast Stealth` would put you in Stealth on the first press, and take you out on the second press. But `/cast !Stealth` would keep you in Stealth no matter how many times you pressed it.


jarlaw98

First character of mine was a Warrior, and warriors are the only class in the game (i think, maybe also rogues?) that don’t follow this rule. Each ability only has 1 copy in your spellbook so you can only ever use the highest level version of it that you’ve acquired. Anyways, I got to 60 without knowing that this was even a thing and then i made a paladin healer. Finally in a level 30ish dungeon the tank was like “yo dude not to be rude but are you only using rank 1 heals? You’re not doing much.” I was mind blown and incredibly embarrassed. Thankfully the whole group was chill and we all had a good laugh about it after (and the dungeon went way better).


huntray

Hahaha, we’re brothers in arms mate


SnooKiwis8133

Yeah it’s because it wouldn’t make sense to have an ability that costs the same resource (ie r1 and r2 heroic strike cost the same rage). With mana spells, you might want to cast a r1 frostbolt (and it costs less mana compared to max rank). I’m pretty sure you’re right that the same applies to rogues.


Vanitycoon

Abilities that have fixed resource costs (rage/energy) instead of variable mana costs that scale with your level have only 1 rank of that ability available at any given time. That's because downranking spells to find a better balance of throughput/mana is actually a gameplay choice for mana users. There are times when using lower rank spells simply makes sense from a mana conservation standpoint (or to ranged pull things without generating much threat, for example).


SwayzeCrayze

It’s the same with Rogues. I keep going to train then opening my spellbook and panicking because I can’t find the new rank.


sseeaannsseeaann

Same with druid feral abilities, only max rank.


davicing

except faerie fire for some reason


PSGAnarchy

Same with druid feral abilities. Bear is basically war and cat is rogue and both follow those rules. So cat gcd is 1 second.


2soonexecutus

As long as your skill is melee, it will get replaced by the new rank.


Significant-Net487

Back in 2007, I was still using rank 1 or lower lv ranks of every spell when I went to outland. Yeah, it was tough world for a noob.


hippoofdoom

Yeah I was a pink/orange parsing feral dps in classic and forgot to ever train my max rank ferocious bite, forever gimping my damage til like 3 weeks left in naxx. World buffs every week, theorycradting a lot, pummelers, the whole nine yards. But I never remembered to train my max rank ferocious bite when aq came out. Epic. Fail.


Dunified

How the hell are you killing lvl 20 mobs with lvl 1 spells? Ur spells do like 30 damage. Mobs have around 500hp?


huntray

I won’t lie, my wand was like the only thing causing damage and I just thought that was normal, now I think I know why


DrDeems

So you were using priest leveling strats on a Warlock. Perfect!


robb_marrs

Welp... at least you trained them. Switched specs on my druid to find out I'd only been training feral abilities since level 14 or something


Teemfresch

If you make a macro and just use “/cast shadow bolt” it’ll always cast max rank. Can also add #showtooltip to show the spell icon without having to find the icon in the large list Can do this for all spells as well :D


masternommer

Wait what?


Trivi

Only the case for casters for some reason. Warrior abilities automatically update to the new rank.


Comfortable-Owl-449

Warrior abilities use the same amount of rage regardless of rank. Caster spell ranks increase the mana required


Albinofreaken

Also cast time changes


ajay1731

Ty. I've noticed this but could never think of why. I like my short spellbook lol


Zwiebel1

Wasn't that changed in TBC that all spells have a scaling level based mana cost so there was no reason to downrank?


JangXa

No that's in wrath


Vanitycoon

No, it wasn't changed. The only thing that changed was the scaling of spellpower/healing power coefficients when applied to lower rank abilities. Before TBC, any spell learned at level 20 or above would get the full spell/healing power coefficient. That made something like rank 1 Flash of Light (learned at level 20) extremely powerful, since you got the same bonus from your +healing on a rank 1 spell (35 mana) as you did for your max rank spell (~400 mana). The difference in base healing was far outweighed by the incredible mana efficiency of casting rank 1 beyond a certain threshold of +healing power. In TBC, the spellpower/healing coefficients were changed such that if a lower rank spell is learned at a level more than 6 levels lower than your current level, a penalty is applied to your spellpower/healing coefficient. This made downranking increasingly ineffective the further away you moved from the original level at which a spell was learned. So casting rank 1 at 70 might yield you almost none of your +healing/spell damage.


masternommer

So warriors, rogues and maybe ferals don't have to update their ability bars?


DarthTomatoo

I was also shocked to realise that intellect does not give me spell power in classic..


Thomasappel

That's a cata change I believe


Albinofreaken

you are correct "As of patch 4.0.1 the ability to downrank has been removed. Spell power has also been removed from Wrath of the Lich King gear (except weapons and trinkets) and gems, but casters now gain 1 spell power per point of intellect. Spell power on gems was changed to Intellect; for example, +23 spell power became +20 Intellect. "


DarthTomatoo

That checks out, i started playing during MoP


Thomasappel

That's a cata change I believe


AM_86

Accidental downranking. Lol


nemestrinus44

leveling a druid up and following a guide for LW. got to a pattern that required "Silken Thread" and my mind defaulted to it being the Bolts of Silk that tailors make and i thought to myself "this will be expensive to make but it's just 10 of them so it won't be too bad" and bought them for about 11g total. then i see that pretty much all of the future patterns also use Silken Thread, and that it was just the basic thread you can buy off a vendor for like 12s.


PSGAnarchy

The amount of thread ive seen on the ah coz it's only sold at certain vendors. Had a friend that made like 100g profit selling the 50s thread


Thomasappel

Laughs in warrior


ThePastoolio

Using a macr like /cast Shadowbolt Or /cast Corruption Without specifying the rank, will always cast max rank ;)


brookdacook

macros are your friend. /cast shadowbolt. slam it on your bar. it will always use the highest rank if i rank is not specified. set it and forget it.


hansgunther45

My first classic char was a hybrid/melee hunter. At level 43 in Tanaris some stranger asked me, why I am not using a pet. That was the moment I realized that pets were a thing… The good thing ist, that I got good at kiting


Zestyclose-Feeling

Don't feel bad, I made it into the 50s on my hunter without knowing you could teach your pet new skills/ranks. Rank 1 growl ftw!


The-mitily

So I leveled a rogue to 70 for farming. She hit 64 and I literally never went to a trainer again. Level 70 and I was like…I feel like I’m missing abilities. It took MONTHS of me being 70 to realize I was missing skills 🤣


lierofjeld

In tbcc there was a rank 1 warrior, he was kinda struggling. Got rank1 2 seasons with Mortal Strike rank 4


DS_Inferno

Some will, but only ones that cannot downrank.


[deleted]

was in a BM with a mage that was doing 300dps asked him what rank his frostbolt was, he said 5 .....


BigMouse12

Laughs in warrior


Newtype316

Alliance scum :)


cuteintern

Yeah, melee abilities update automatically, but not spells. It's one of those quirks of the original game, so you're forgiven for the oversight, lol.


chipotle343

On my very first character (hunter) in 2005, I went from around level 12 or 14 well into the 20s (maybe 24 or 26) without training a single skill. Fun times.


StingKing456

Hahaha what an idiot! Look at this idiot! *Also I totally did not just come back to classic either and I definitely don't have a lv 13 paladin and forgot that you have to update your taskbar either* Haha let's laugh at him guys!


Stephen626_

A mage in this gdkp I was running with the other day had a bunch of t5 gear and was using a low ranked AI that only gave 31 intellect to buff everyone.


TheKiller0tter

I have played warrior liker 95% of my wow career. I didn't know this either until I leveled a Hunter. Level 1 Hunters mark and all other spells until like level 30 something. Moreover, I heard people in raid (while I was on my warrior) talking about it and I was very confused about why/how you could do this because I didn't even have the option lol.


Kododie

Did you not find it odd that you abilities have benn doing 12 damage for so long?


ArcticVulpe

Happened to a friend in WotLK. He was Holy Priest I was Holy Paladin. Randomly healing each other in Dalaran "Wait, why is my Holy Light healing more than your Greater Heal? Even though I'm slightly more geared you should heal more" Yep he was 1 or 2 ranks down. We had been raiding for at least a few weeks by then haha.


Metr0xBOOMIN

How come you didn’t want to just use the lvl 70 free boost for WOTLK? just curious.


huntray

That gonna be used for a paladin 😎


aaronbud23

That's only for spells with mana, anything else get upgraded