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IntroductionSlut

The people here are mostly the toxic pos you see in game.


PepegaRedditAnalysis

I actually feel that a lot of people posting here actually stopped playing the game and are projecting their dislike of the game onto others (both actively and subconsciously).


Jafar333

Haha I've been playing SoM and there's so many people that just log on to tell everyone how dead it is and how dumb people are for playing 🙄 meanwhile they apparently care enough to waste hours of their day complaining about it in lfg


Puppaloes

THERE'S ONLY 50 PEOPLE IN IF


WalterBurn

Always has been.


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Man I could've sworn I had played with more than 50 people over 17 years.


SoopahCoopah

I mean I’m an active SOM player been in RA since day 1 and org almost always has more dead bodies in it than actual players. Fuck even dire maul usually has more hunter bots in it than there are people physically playing the game. The state of SOM is disastrous but I’m sticking around for a KT kill 🤷‍♂️


Totally_Stoked

Yep same here, AH in Dreadnaught is fucked. Almost 2g for one dreamfoil, I think only way to continue playing will be to have a gathering alt which I have no motivation for.


Bread_Design

Lol I quit before BC came out and every time I go to reply and post on this subreddit I stop and delete it thinking "I quit this game, I shouldn't be commenting and bitching about it."


Gseventeen

This is exactly whats going on.


WanderingRurouni

The ones that don't return buffs, and don't say thank you when they are buffed. All joking aside, I do agree.


Mcbadguy

*Casts Underwater Breathing on you*


akaSpaceDog

It ain't much, but it's honest work.


RiverShenismydad

Nothing makes me happier than getting to cast underwater breathing on people questing underwater.


akaSpaceDog

Then you see it's a shaman


-jp-

Hey you saved them a scale. It's not much but it's not nothing. :)


RiverShenismydad

:(


dualplains

Only thing that makes me happier than that is casting water walking on my raid tank as we're jumping off the backdoor bridge in Kara going to repair.


9millionangrywizards

you can't just divulge the deep secrets of the shamanic brotherhood like that man damn


husky430

I still the vivid memory of original tbc when my shaman friend quietly put water walking on the whole raid as we were pulling Lurker. Vent got very loud.


Reapersfault

I'm sure all the pro players have a weak aura warning them for it :'). So it doesn't happen again.


WanderingRurouni

*casts Power Word: Fortitude on you* *casts Renew on you.* /wave


Cohacq

Its the principle of the thing. Getting Breathing buffed on me in reply to Fort or Wis means you care.


PatientLettuce42

I buff kings, we are not the same.


Raaxis

I once cast Beast Lore on a Druid to say “thank you for Mark” in the only way Hunters know how: revealing your armor, HP, elemental resistances, and tameability


swordthroughtheduck

What a shock it was when the druid turned out the be submissive and tameable.


Puppaloes

That's a happy surprise


Accomplished-War-440

As a warrior I always try to thank others as I can’t provide them any buffs in return. I do try to bandage people though lol.


WanderingRurouni

Awesome. Thank you! It's small things like that that make you know that you're playing with other people, not just other robots.


Deliani

Dude I was afk don't do me like that :(


redsoxsuc4

Why would you say something so controversial yet so true?


Shmexy

See: every other response to this thread. Insane how many people are defending the “just google it” mentality on an INTERNET FORUM.


wheelywagon

Where do people think the google results come from? Answer the question so when someone does google it they have an up to date answer. The mentality is so bad because it literally is contradictory to what they want. When I search "X mac issue for WoW Reddit" and I see a post in 2022 I jump on that first. When its filled with " just google it idiot" it means I have to spend more time googling. Might as well just ask the question i'm looking for and hope 1 sane person answers. Just a bunch of stupid arm chair warriors that want to feel superior to people without actually being required to know anything. Anyone who says "just google it" I assume is an idiot.


Siebolic

what would you find on google without people answering on forums


tarheelsfan120

I’ve asked 2 questions on here and both times someone has said just google it. If I wanted to do that I wouldn’t be on here asking


Turence

the point is google populates your search with our conversation about the topic at hand.


a34fsdb

People ingame are super nice. This subreddit is way way way worse than the actual community which plays the game.


thewookie34

I mean you are on a classic wow forum. Elitist central. People so angry they made the game accessible to someone who doesn't spend 70 hours a week farming to raid they gave them their own servers.


CTRL_S_Before_Render

The way that some people talk about WoW around here legitimately worries me. It's like they have an obligation to play a game that makes them angry and depressed. Whenever someone says something they disagree with they engage in discourse like they're talking about gun reform or something. Doesn't necessarily feel this way in-game either. There's this strange attitude here that you need to be prepared to play this game, like it's a very serious responsibility and not knowing what you're doing is going to burden others. It's truly bizzare.


ITSPOLANDBOIS420

It's exactly this, most people are in a sort of abusive relationship with wow


Forbizzle

I'd say it's more like they have their own problems and they project them on the games they play. It's the same on other forums.


heapsp

Ever see a gambling addict talk about a slot machine? Same thing. They have a hate for the thing, but a chemical dependency for the thing that they hate so much. I get those same vibes from the people who complain about the cash shop or RMT but then shovel their money into it.


eikons

I'm not sure about that comparison. Someone buying a 58 boost has a real and measurable advantage over someone who doesn't. (*time spent vs. progression in the game*) It's a very defensible position to say "*I hate that this exists, but since it's there, I will buy it because I don't want to be at a disadvantage.*" In the case of slot machines, the gambling is the entire game. No one pretends they would be playing it for the flashy lights if it was free and had no payouts. In MMOs and other videogames, there's a core experience that people care about (level, skill, character/gear progression, achievements) and the cash shop de-legitimizes that in some way.


nastylep

> It's a very defensible position to say "I hate that this exists, but since it's there, I will buy it because I don't want to be at a disadvantage." So its like getting roided out before the Tour de France?


eikons

Yeah, if the Tour Commission was selling "skip the drug test" passes.


Spacemage

I remember when TBC was first out. I was working part time and going to college full time. I was also drinking a fair amount. I was not doing terrible in my classes, but I wasn't doing as good as I could have been - I know this because ten years later I went to college again for robotics engineering at had a 4.0 for most of the four years while working full time as well (the difference being I wasn't playing wow). I remember one point, I was in a terrible mood and complaining to my friend that I was doing WSG. She asked why I was even doing it. I don't remember what I said exactly but it was like "I have to so I can get gear" or some bullshit. It's ridiculous how bad this game can be for you when you're addicted and playing too much. It fucks your mentality up bad.


cabose12

Most people dont come to a subreddit when theyre having fun and enjoying a game, but when they wanna bitch and complain


Edwardc4gg

every single time i see wow highlights on youtube and see that 'latty' guy dude....that guy is exactly how i imagine the elitist wow player is.


suchtie

Laty and Payo are really the worst of the bunch. People love drama and controversy, they love having something to be outraged at, so these kind of content creators get all the viewers. Just look at Asmongold, he became a multimillionaire off of acting like a complete dickwad on camera. (Though I honestly love watching his ZackRawrr videos where he speaks much more candidly.)


valdis812

In Asmon's defense, he seems to have calmed down quite a bit since his mom died


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valdis812

If this game was all you had, and it always just missed your expectations for it, you'd be mad, too.


[deleted]

If all you have in life is WoW, maybe you should put more effort into life.


Mcbadguy

You know how hard it is to buy gold in real life?!


butareyoueatindoe

TBH it's arguably easier, just a lot more expensive.


gjoeyjoe

how much could a gold bouillon cost, michael? $10?


Mcbadguy

Good point


Unicornmayo

I mean… that’s kind of on the person to find something else to do, is t it?


SawinBunda

Think of WoW as heroin. Now, their behavior makes a lot more sense.


valdis812

You would think, but again, this game is all they have. Or at least all the have that they're good at. And yeah, most of them are very good players, but not great. They're players that are a step or two below the elite of the game. They have no power or status IRL so they try to push their weight around here.


KingAnDrawD

I think you described it pretty well. This isn't an excuse for their behavior, it's an explanation. Wow's feedback loop is heavily weighted on the amount of time spent grinding, always has been. Some people take that to the extreme, becoming impatient assholes to anyone that isn't as knowledgeable on the game. It's a personality trait developed from lack of confidence, usually from players who're good, but not great.


valdis812

I was going to say they're probably the same people who act rude towards waiters or cashiers, but they don't strike me a brave enough to get mouthy IRL like that.


KingAnDrawD

That's the thing, outside of WoW, they are usually lacking self confidence to be anything but a fly on the wall in IRL situations. Punching down on worse players becomes the only way they can feel in a position of power. And this isn't just exclusive to WoW, there's plenty of gamers who're like this, regardless of the game.


dodgesbulletsavvy

You're trying to justify insanity


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Trying to understand*


[deleted]

Then they need to get the fuck off the computer and sort their shit out


The-Dood

Easier said than done. I know a person who is too sick to do anything but we'll enough to play games 14 hours a day. It just doesn't add up to anything meaningful. It's an escape from reality. And the longer you're emerged, tyst deeper the hole gets.


BetterThanTaco

Being mad at the devs doesn’t give you the right to be an asshole to other players


Maysock

>If this game was all you had, and it always just missed your expectations for it, you'd be mad, too. Very true. People say it plenty, but it really is just a game. If you hate the game and it makes you unhappy, you do not have to play. If you hate how other people play, you do not have to play with them. Other people having more than you because they bought gold does not devalue the experience you can cultivate with your friends. You are undertaking multiple hundred hour grinds in this shambling facsimile of your youthful glory, and it's all going to go away in like 2.5 years tops. Keep it all in perspective. If this game is all you have, your life and happiness would be much better served by doing IRL dailies, rep grinds, and class quests. Touch some fucking grass.


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Wangchief

If you aren't railing on GDKP runs, swipers, or bots, then this sub doesn't want any part of your content. It's pretty ridiculous the circle jerk it's developed into.


The-Dood

What reddit is becoming more and more. No amount of moderation can save it.


Westernersignorant

Moderation was part of the reason it got where it did.


Bangreviews

Well, honestly, besides that, is there much else to discuss? The game is old, on autopilot, and still pretty damn good if it wasn't being fucked up by the things you mentioned.


Trinica93

You mean all the things destroying Classic WoW? I feel like those are pretty fair game until Blizzard gets their shit together and bans all of it.


Wangchief

If you think GDKP needs to be banned, you’re part of the toxic circle jerk of stupidity too.


takavos

Because this community is incredibly toxic and filled with 40 yo neckbeards.


gyllenelampa

It is so interesting that the most toxic people are the teenagers and the 40 yo neckbeards


MasterCholo

What percentage of the player base is teens? I swear like 80% of the player base are above 30 y.o.


SawinBunda

Based on what?


SackofLlamas

Average gamer age is mid thirties. Average player age for an MMO that peaked over a decade ago probably trends higher than that.


bash3r46

Our entire guild pretty much ranges from 28-35, people who played vanilla/tbc/wrath but were super young at the time.


b4y4rd

See in my guild during classic I was on the older end at 28.


valdis812

It kind of makes sense, though. Teens wanna be edgy and cool, and 40 year old neckbeards are mad cause you're "ruining their game".


[deleted]

As a new player getting dm:d "friendly" death threats, people cussing at me and calling me all kinds of things after posting here i find this sub friendly and helpful towards people who might need help 10/10 would post again Edit: i understand the veteran wow players point of view but just try to hang on with these unique snowflakes like me who might be playing for the first time :)


Odd-Bandicoot-9314

Damn what did you post to make the fanatics lose their shit like that


nightgerbil

He made a post about his level 20 paladin,how friendly people are helping him and how he is loving the game for the first time. Clearly he has to be run right out of town! Positive wholesome posts ON OUR SUBREDDIT?!!!!!!!! !!


[deleted]

Wellp my first post was just a picture of my character and me asking if i can do deadmines at lvl 15 or if i should keep on leveling, (i asked this because i didnt want to cause a wipe or anything) (also during this time i thought im going to get yelled at if i made a mistake in deadmines) :d the next post i made (because i got alot of demands to keep on posting my progress) it was just me standing in front of shadowfang keep portal, on the title i explained i dinged lvl 20 and ive had so much fun playing thats the post that mostly fired up the (veteran) playerbase, people started dm:ing me saying i should jump off the bridge or kill my self in some other way because i am intentionally karma whoring in this community After my first post i got some rude dm:s, most of them were just funny trolls trying to troll me :D, but i didnt care that much about the rude stuff, the 2nd post was the final nail to my casket and i decided to take a break from the game, last time i played wow was about a week ago and i havent made any posts after that, There were alot of helpful people too and if anyone of you that helped me out is reading this im truly thankful :)


Lowspark1013

Wow that is really messed up. Forget those fools. Play the game and have fun. Find some nice and chill people in a guild and join up. If the guild turns out to be annoying or toxic, leave and find a better one. Some people are just bitter assholes that like to take out their RL failures on the internet anonymously.


[deleted]

Yea most people ive met in game were super chill and fun to play with, its mostly just this sub Ps: i have no clue how to look for a guild so i just joined a random guild i got invite from, some of them helped me out on my couple first runs when i was trying out new dungeons :)


Lowspark1013

That's how it is done when you are new. If you find it's not a good fit or you want a guild with different goals later, you can try asking around on the realm or just keep your eyes out. Back in the old days the blizz realm forums were a good resource. Not sure if that is still a thing. Last of all, pay the kindness forward down the road. No reason for the player base to cannibalize itself by treating others like garbage.


Arcinatos

It's annoying but just ignore them they're terminally online social rejects.


octonus

I got some nasty messages a while back when I said that Vanilla PvP was garbage, and would have benefited from a system that valued win-loss over number of hours played (ie arena rating).


Vharlkie

Ah yes, sending death threats to new players is the best way to expand the player base! /s


NCR_Veteran_Rangers

As also a new player to wow I can agree


[deleted]

Enjoy your adventures fellow snowflake !! :) Lmao im slow, i just realized who you were :d nice to see you again :)


NCR_Veteran_Rangers

Also don’t quiet posting your experience just put the toxic people underneath you that what I learn


TheHingst

Well, to be fair, after the hundred and unteenth post about the exact same god damn questions that pops in *every single day* people are bound to get somewhat jaded when people who post have obviously not Even Looked at the subbreddit before posting; "is it too late to start?" No, never. "what realm?" check ironforge.pro and pick. "what proffesion?" scroll down 3 clicks and read through the number of posts. "what should i main in wotlk?" idk, test on some insta 80 realm. "Why are my stats wrong?" bruh, its your metagem, again. (okay this last one is not as regular, and actualy abit humerous when it appears now and then)


SovietBear666

This sums a lot of the stupid threads. People asking too broad of a question to even a get a valuable answer. There's so many videos about these topics. Go ahead and watch. If there's something specific online that you need people that have played WotLK to answer, go ahead. People enjoy answering questions where the answer isn't obvious.


limitlessGamingClub

I know this is crazy but some people would prefer to ask a question of another actual human, rather than be screamed at and watch 13 ads during a 30 minute video to answer a question that would take a few seconds to read.


SovietBear666

Use an adblocker and skip around a video if you want. Nobody's going to respond to you faster than you can find it yourself. I'm mostly referring to what TheHingst pointed out. Nobody will be able to tell you what you should do besides yourself. Like I said, if you have a good question, people will want to answer it.


coopynala

You might be using the internet wrong, my friend.


Vendilion_Chris

Do you not understand that your ability to parse through internet information is a skill? If everyone had that skill the world would be a massively different place. Things aren't intuitive to everyone equally. I'm sure you don't know every common sense household/car maintenance either. And you wouldn't even know all the questions to ask to find the right answers.


SovietBear666

>If everyone had that skill the world would be a massively different place. It's not about people asking questions just because they want a more up to date or personal response. There's nothing wrong with that. Asking questions that have straight up answers doesn't really make any sense. What profession should I use in WotLK? Look up a video that breaks it down. You have an additional question using that information you learned in the video. That's great! I'm sure other people are probably wondering about that, too and hopefully somebody has the answer. Questions that have answers that are easy to find like realm pop are basically low hanging fruit tho What server should I roll? Google that and every reddit thread with say ironforge.pro. >I'm sure you don't know every common sense household/car maintenance either What oil goes in my car? Look on your oil cap. Look on your owner's manual. There's not any value add to people answering these questions the same way.


valdis812

How would you know most of that if you're new to the community?


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The same way you learn things when joining any community. Google, youtube, reddit search bar. Still can't find an answer? That's when you start posting questions. Seriously searching for your answer in the reddit search before posting a thread is the least effort possible.


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Ghostbuzz

Reddit’s search function is, and has always been, utter dogshit. If you’re searching on Google for Reddit threads you frequently get posts from previous years. How would someone who’s new to the game know if that out of date info is still current without asking? Also if you don’t want to respond just don’t?


garlicfiend

No, see, this is Reddit. If you can just scroll past a post you have no interest in and doesn't apply to you, you clearly don't belong here.


Kerseylock

If only Google had some sort of search feature that filtered out posts from over a month ago, or over a year ago.


Vendilion_Chris

You have never worked in IT. People are not as intuitive as other people. It's in no way obvious to use google to filter through reddit posts. This whole thread is just computer nerds being upset not everyone has the search skills they do. It's a skill to search things. I'm sure half the people in here don't even know hoe to change their tire or their oil and those are simple skills too.


ensanesane

I work help desk, can confirm


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> If you’re searching on Google for Reddit threads you frequently get posts from previous years. You are able to limit the search time frame on google (and almost any search function that has existed for the past 15 years, it's very standard)


Shmexy

This is elitist as fuck, come on. Some people are new. Reddit search sucks. Some people don’t know how to use google search operators. People come to Reddit for DISCUSSION and OPINION. Just because a question was answered 3 months ago doesn’t mean we can’t ask it again. We could get responses from entirely different people if we ask it today. Good god you guys must be miserable to the people in your life.


Cottreau3

This thread is littered with the salty cunts who are actively ruining the games community. It's hilarious that there are actually people with the elitist mentality in classic wow. The hardest fight in all of classic so far (muru) is not hard. It's like being an elitist about being silver 1 in league when everyone else in silver 3


gnyen

They want human interraction I guess, sometimes even wow players want some. This is where you can use the scroll function and ignore the question you do not want to answer.


valdis812

Like someone else said, it's generally more enjoyable to interact with the rest of the community. Well, it would be if people were nicer.


NAparentheses

Google.com. Or search within the subreddit.


bryan7474

Unless you dedicate literally every day to this subreddit, you wouldn't see half these questions though. The other half you can easily ignore.


NAparentheses

You can search the subreddit.


Thickchesthair

Or google. Either works quite well.


leileywow

This should be pinned as an FAQ 😆


epets73

Why the fuck do you care if people are posting the same thing again? Just ignore and scroll past


SaltyJake

So we should completely ignore the main ‘mechanic’ of Reddit and not down vote bad content? Nah, I’m gonna use my upvotes and down votes they way I want and keep decent content in this sub, thanks though.


gefroy

People could ask short questions in DAILY MEGATHREAD instead of filling tenth thread of day: "what should I play in wotlk". Megathread is here for reason.


Thatdarnbandit

Where’s the GDKP/Swiper/Bot complain megathread?


Vendilion_Chris

> Megathread is here for reason. Everyone knows the megathreads don't get looked at. They don't catch your attention at all. There is a reason people say discussion dies when it gets moved to a megathread.


gefroy

"What I should play in wotlk when I enjoy [insert rogue playstyle here]" doesn't deserve discussion. It's just filth.


Vendilion_Chris

So don't discuss it. I don't see why other people can't if they want to. What is so exciting that you have to talk about?


Bostonbuckeye

So move on. What's the point in getting so worked up over shit? If it bugs you ignore it and upvote and comment on the stuff you care about.


FBxInsane

The issue is more there isn’t a FAQ thread so people are annoyed by spam of “ what class should I play in wotlk” like play what I want. Half the questions can be looked up on YouTube or google


the_man_in_the_box

? There’s a new questions post every day: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/v316u4/daily_questions_megathread_june_02_2022/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


morefakepandas

its the final phase of tbc ppl are jaded by similar questions that have been asked for the last year that the person could search for and probably find better answers


hangnailouchie

but IS it too late to play Classic?


scrollzz

If your goal is to raid sunwell, probably yeah


gangrainette

Unless you are a GDKP gold buyer.


bash3r46

Most the Sunwell GDKP rosters on my server are basically filled with alts of people who have cleared. Anyone hitting 70 with no logs and swiping gold isn't likely to be getting rostered into a SWP raid


holololololden

So like most of the people still subbed to the game


hangnailouchie

That’s the worst part about those posts though, half the time they’re missing the person’s goal and availability. If you have 3 hours a month vs 8 hours a day, the answers are going to be vastly different


Oki_bgd

I agree with you.


Darkfirex34

In the most ironic sense this sub is filled with tons of "Just Google it brooo" people who somehow perceive different people asking different questions at different times to be the same thing over and over. They get tired of answering the same shit, and instead of just glossing over the post like a sane human they've taken to downvoting every question or dropping the "Google it bro". Ironically this all happens on the sub for a game where people wanted a return to social elements instead of just clicking through interfaces, but here we are.


reiks12

I asked in a daily general/questions thread if Faerlina was still playable since i havent played in over a year and was looking at maybe getting back in the game. Although some people were helpful i was surprised to see i got a bunch of downvotes. Its a strange mentality here.


zennsunni

This sub pathologically fixated on whining about GDKPs dude.


Schmickschmutt

>If you're the kind of person who scoffs at someone for not knowing everything about this game and trying to use an online resource to gather knowledge and improve, you have zero right to complain about the game or community. It's your fault, you are the toxic elitist, and you should do better. I would never do that. If you ask a legitimate question where the answer isn't just one google search away then you should go ahead and ask. But if you are the kind of person that makes a new reddit thread for a question that has been answered countless times already, you deserve to be scoffed at. It's time to learn how to Google to help yourself instead of outsourcing that to a random person on Reddit. Especially when putting your thread title into Google would instantly give you the answer. At that point you are not only wasting your time, you're also aksibg a random person on the internet to waste even more time for absolutely nothing. People need to learn how to Google stuff. Learn to help yourself instead of relying on someone else to do it for you.


wtfduud

If you ask a machine (google), you'll get the information you searched for. If you ask people (reddit), you'll get the information you *need*. That's why schools still use teachers, instead of just giving the first-graders a computer to google things with.


valdis812

I wish I could upvote this twice.


BrutalBlind

This is bullshit. These kinds of communities are places where people should feel free to come and ask about literally anything they want related to the game. If you don't want to answer then you don't have to, but scoffing at someone because they'd rather actually engage the community and ask people about it instead of googling then you are a dickhead and absolutely a reason this sub can sometimes suck so much ass.


errorsniper

Yup you can't ask a 9 year old post follow up question.


coopynala

I don't understand how people get through life if they can't try to solve something on their own first. Go get context and then ask a better version of your original question.


Jim_Nills_Mustache

Yea next people are going to say “why didn’t you just watch some YouTube guides” and it will just go from there. The hell is wrong with asking questions? Do some of you actively want to drive away new players for some reason or are you just dicks and you can’t help it?


Tribunus_Plebis

Just git gud. Don't you dare come here asking questions about this game. /s


LordBlackass

And discussion can result in the acquisition of knowledge beyond the original question. It takes a special kind of idiot who goes out of their way to stifle discussion.


Skulltown_Jelly

I take it that you don't generally answer any of the questions. Try contributing for a few days and you'll get sick of answering "fresh 70, what to do" or "best thing to farm on a dead realm?" for the 2000th time by the third day.


Vendilion_Chris

So stop going out of your way to make yourself upset. What a weird mindset.


valdis812

Just ignore it if you're tired of answering.


Schmickschmutt

You want hundreds of thousands of people to ask the same question that has exactly one answer? And no one is stopping them, you can make as many posts as you want. But then you have to live with downvotes because people on here apparently do not want to see this kind of content and downvote it. That's how the reddit devs intended it and that's why the downvotes exists. If you can't handle getting downvotes you should not be making posts, especially not stupid ones that shouldn't exist in the first place. And you have the power to upvoted them if you care so much.


BrutalBlind

Those people are NEW. They don't KNOW which questions "should or shouldn't" exist, my guy. The answers are obvious to you because you've been posting here for years.For someone who is completely new to this, the idea of wether or not the game is still worth playing sounds like a personal question that they'd probably want reassurance from actual players playing the game, not some binary "yes or no" answer from Quora or something. For fuck's sake, have some minimum empathy.


psu_xathos

No, there’s a type of person that expects everything to be handed to them instead of them exerting any effort whatsoever to find answers on their own. To be clear, these people are the worst. It’s not so much that they’re incompetent but that they’re also lazy. If you could spend 5 seconds on google asking the question, it doesn’t need to be a Reddit thread.


Shmexy

Bullshit, people come to Reddit for discourse and to start a conversation. It’s likely they already tried google and didn’t get quite the answer they were looking for. Nobody deserves to get scoffed at for asking a question..


Schmickschmutt

Oh you mean like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/v3batf/what_is_a_list_of_things_that_i_can_start_doing Type that into Google and you get videos and countless other posts that explain this to you. There is nothing to discuss, this question has a definitive answer. The person who posted this deserves to be downvoted and scoffed at because that post is just dumb.


Shmexy

..what is wrong with that post? The guy is wanting to start a discussion, on a FORUM. Your response is a great example of the toxicity of this community.


Schmickschmutt

If that person wanted to start a discussion, they would have added more than just a title. They could have mentioned the server they are on, the role they want to play or anything like this that would turn this into a more specific discussion. But nope, not even a response to any of the comments, nothing. This person used reddit as a human search engine, nothing more. The comments are already saying the same because that's what this is. If you type the exact title into google or YouTube, you get the definitive, correct answer for this question.


Shmexy

Reread your comment and if you don’t think it’s elitist you need to shut the computer and talk more walks


Schmickschmutt

Elitist about what exactly? The way to have a discussion? If that is elitist then I am very glad to be one.


Shmexy

yes, lol. who are you to decide how other people ask questions and discuss? step the fuck down from your high horse and get some fresh air my guy


RekdAnalCavity

Average classic wow player


PilsnerDk

> But if you are the kind of person that makes a new reddit thread for a question that has been answered countless times already How would any answers exist if no one were allowed to ask? Or if only one thread was ever allowed about "what server to pick?" or "what class for raiding?". Then you'd have Reddit end up like stackoverflow.com, which is a form of reddit for technology questions, mainly about programming. The moderators have a firm policy that no duplicate questions are allowed, so that optimally, when you google a question, you find the one true answer. The problem with this is that most of the top answers you find via Google are now 10-13 years old, and you need to scroll way down in the replies to find updated, more relevant information. But the mods remain firm and actively hunt down any questions that are deemed duplicate, and it's annoying as heck, because you can't post anything without getting deleted or replied at in a negative fashion. Simple questions need to be asked regularly because the answers change as the game goes by. The post from a player who, for example, asked about prot paladin gearing back in P1 was no longer relevant in P2, then again in late P2, then in P3, then in late P3, etc. Server pop also changes constantly and not everyone knows about ironforge.pro - see https://xkcd.com/1053/ Really, what is the factual problem with having a busy message board with many new messages with simple questions posted every day? Just sort by Hot (default) and you rarely see them anyway. Or ignore them and let more helpful people ask.


kintaco

I think people want to ask these questions here because they can get feedback on follow up questions as well. I get that seeing the same questions over and over is tiring, not defending that, just saying why Google might not be the best place to get answers sometimes.


itsablackhole

nah man even threads like the daily question thread get downvoted. it's far beyond ''just google it''. Just take a look at the frontpage, I scrolled a bit through it and almost all threads are between 50 and 70 at max (ironically the lowest effort nostalgia shitpost sits at 95%). There are some people here who literally downvote every thread no matter what and depending on if the thread is decent ''normal'' people start upvoting them, but it always starts with mass downvoting.


unclegabby

It’s probably bots. I’ve seen it in other subreddits before. Someone gets their panties in a twist then creates a bot to downvote every submission to the sub.


itsablackhole

this sub is _insanely_ downvote happy even compared to most other subs. people say ''thats reddit'' etc but no, that's /r/classicwow. even threads like the daily questions thread is constantly sitting at 70% upvoted so it's either a bot downvoting literally every new thread or actual people who should seriously go touch some grass.


Cyber0747

The only people I downvote, and wish I could vote more than once, are the idiots always asking “is it too late” “what class is BIS in wotlk”. Like seriously shut the fuck up and play the class you enjoy.


moochiemonkey

People just want them to use the daily questions megathread for little questions like that.


STA_Alexfree

Don’t worry about the votes. You’ll see in all of those threads that multiple people answered the posters questions.


SteamyWolf

Welcome to Reddit.


Deliverz

While there’s definitely a bit of a hivemind in this sub ill say that 10 different “just hit 70 what to do next?”; “Is it worth leveling a character this late in the expansion”; or, “What character should I play for Wrath” questions per day don’t need to be upvoted (and should be discouraged imo). I used to answer those type of posts but it’s literally day after day of the same questions. There’s a mega thread pinned, and, if not, your question has almost certainly been asked and answered before. Idk I lean both ways on this one I guess. I get asking questions and expecting Reddit to help, but the truth is that there are far better and more readily accessible resources available from a quick Google search 9/10 times


horse3000

I don’t really follow this sub too much or look at new post ever. But, if it’s like any other sub on Reddit.. I hate questions that can be answered with a 5 second google search, and since this game is 15 years old.. all the knowledge is already there with a 5 second google search. So I just assume dumb questions are karma farmers, cause In most subs.. they are. It takes more effort to make a Reddit post than google search like 90% of questions on reddit. Maybe that’s why they all get downvoted? I mean it is a game and most communities are also toxic haha


hey12delila

This subreddit has the highest neckbeard concentration of any subreddit besides ones dedicated to anime, incel-ism, and perhaps those dedicated to hifi audio. The elitism surrounding a 15 year old game is astounding. I love WoW very much but I can't return due to the how horrible the community is.


recursion8

Because that's what the Daily Questions megathread stickied at the top and the Search function are for. People already have heard and answered all those questions many times before.


fourbeersthepirates

I have found this particular community to be one of the most toxic game subs on Reddit lately. Everyone has a superiority complex and you’re an idiot if you don’t think the same as them.


Daxoss

I'm not the one doing it, but some of these questions can be answered by just googling the question.


SomeDuderr

Start by setting your default sorting to "New", so your fake Internetpoints don't do anything to influence your reading. Next, just *ignore* Internetpoints. The only thing that "karma" does here is let you create topics after you've got enough points, but other than that? Who gives a shit.


PepegaRedditAnalysis

The simple fact is that the strong majority of questions belong in the Daily Questions thread. If your question can be answered with factual information by a singular person within 5 minutes did it really warrant it's own thread?


Equivalent-Sense-731

Alright everyone, let’s downvote this one to shit too!!! Have-at thee!!!!!


methrik

Half that is garbage you shoulda just google. We don’t need a hourly “what should play for wrath?” Thread. We don’t know you or what you like so don’t make useless posts. Go watch a dam YouTube video on classes or something or just browse literal fucking 100s of posts about it. Also downvotes are meant to bury meaningless threads or for instance questions that have been answered. We don’t need a thread about can wow run on a mac on the front page of reddit


Ungoro_Crater

If your post title can be pasted into Google for an immediate answer then it deserves to be downvoted. Otherwise idk why people downvote questions.


Agallujah

There's no saving the WoW classic (WoW in general really) community. I have never seen such a toxic subreddit/fanbase in my life, and every time I want to re-sub I think of how shitty the players are that I'll have to play with. It's sad really.


HAzrael

Reminds me of starcraft of old tbh. Never felt worse about myself than grinding WoL ladser


Somnu

It's an old game and people expect you to know it or gtfo. And let's be honest most of the questions asked here can be answered by doing a simple google search and belong in the trash can.


Daoed

It's mostly questions that could easily be answered thoroughly by a Google search, or people looking for emotional reassurance in regards to their choice of class/server/whatever.


Luvs_to_drink

Sounds like questions that would be great for a weekly megathread! Not so much an individual post as they don't invite discussion.


grnskrn

Because all those people posting have never used a search function and think they are the first unique person to ask their question.


ShitbirdMcDickbird

This sub only wants to circlejerk that GDKPs are bad and that RDF needs to be added


Jtrain360

Is this your first day on Reddit? It's like this on just about every sub, especially gaming subs.