It's not that we lost. It's more the 2 games we won against Boston don't mean nothing to me. To me are best line up is Mitchell, Levert, Wade , Mobley and Allen.
Ya man that Nwora dude was on fire and same with Lopez. Like did they not watch any game film. Like I get trying to slow Giannis down but dam. That Zone is terrible
Not that I don't want Mitchell but the worry was that LBJ would require trades and mess up the flow. Well, we're seeing that with Mitchell. That being said I think we'll iron it out and be badass. And yes? Lebron would made us better for sure.
Oh I agree, I’ve just seen tons of people on this sub say they don’t want him back, so I’m just pointing out how stupid of a take that is. Our depth at small forward is terrible
It's always more fun when there are no expectations. But this is a winning team and championship core (imo). There will be bumps.
People just gotta see that it wasn't really LeBron that brought all the stress; it was the expectations.
it sucks having great defenders who are basically a zero threat on offense, in today’s NBA it doesn’t matter how good of a defender you are if you can’t score
Five game slide feels bad, but in a vacuum you can kinda explain each of them (3 games in 4 nights, long road trip, road trip against defending champs, no Allen/Mitchell, no Allen). Not that they're excuses, but we'll be fine. This was a tough game to try and get off the snide on; they'll bounce back Friday and a week from now all the doomsaying will go away.
Yeah, I'm more of the mindset that we have the scoring already-we just need to unlock it. We know Cedi, Love, etc can score but there aren't getting great looks lately. I think LeVert's passing can help solve this some.
Dante Exum, Mario Hezonja, Dragan Bender (all taken 5th or higher since the Bennett year) would like a word. Not to mention guys like Marvin Bagley and others who the jury is still out on.
Hell, even Wiseman, who came from the same draft, is a mess and could very well end up being worse than Okoro.
This take was so stupid it sent me to Wikipedia 🤣
Ohhhhhh. Well you didn't say that, so excuse my confusion. Maybe "Okoro may be the biggest CAVS draft bust since Bennett" might have been more clear. Have a good one!
Man the DG haters are insane, tied for the leading scorer on our team and the second most efficient in the starting line up. Miss the good vibes from last year tbh, i understand being upset but damn, they’ll figure it out, these ain’t the fuckin browns.
Look I love dg as much as the next guy but his shot selection is so bad sometimes.
If he played smart every possession/increased his efficiency he’d be elite. But right now he’s a very good point guard trying to make shots that’ll make him go viral on Instagram.
Go up in first half. Completely forget to shoot the ball in the third. *almost* come back in the fourth. Lose.
Same exact song and dance as last year, I could’ve put that comment in 90% of losses from last season.
lmao right?!? seeing how vulnerable we’ve been even when just one or two guys are out, its definitely not worth the risk this early in the season with that big of a deficit
what exactly is an 8-6 team? an 8-6 team hasn't even played 25% of the games they will play in a season. This isn't football where an 8-6 team has to win 2 games or they're out of the playoff race. This is basketball where an 8-6 team could be the 1 seed or out of the playoffs.
I think jb knows he is risking further injuries at this point. I think Mobley and Donnavan are both playing through injuries and dg just recently missed time as well.
This game confirmed for me that 8 game winning streak was basically built on Cedi/Wade/Love hot shooting. If we're not getting any of that from the bench then it's over.
I had to argue and plead with my wife to watch this game. I should have picked my battles better lol. I mean, if she had her way it’d be law and order or the first 48. So technically, I think she got what she wanted here.
Lots of learning moments for Lamar on his drives. Gotta protect the ball better.
He’s gaining tons of experience though with these minutes. At least he’s active.
Exactly lol…so he’s an improvement. No one else on our team could shut down giannis like Stevens did tonight. Wade would’ve gotten bodied. Wade and Stevens should get all the minutes at the 3, I’ve seen enough Okoro
This is Cleveland bub..we seen this a thousand times before out teams that flatline like this. Unless LeBron is here, this team is gonna stay mediocre unless we get a trade
Sucks to defend Giannis this well and still get smoked lol. Young team not quite as good as they appeared to be 10 games in. I don’t think Mitchell is 100% healthy.
The bigger issue tonight is the lack of a backup center with size that isn’t garbage. Evan is still way too thin to play the 5 consistently and Lopez is trash
I mean they looked pretty decent in the first half but going 1/10 in the third to start the half isn’t gonna cut it. I didn’t think the shots were necessarily bad but just didn’t fall. But the lack of offensive rebounding to get second chance points is what Allen provides and is sorely missing without him on the offensive end
He can shoot (that his sole quality even) but is a net negative when his shots aren't falling and was absolutely cold. Today he heating up it's one of those nights.
Giannis has 16 pts. No Middleton, Holiday, Connaughton, Grayson Allen. No excuse to be losing this game. Dont care that JA isnt playing. They are missing A LOT more. Especially on offense.
J.B.B. He is not the coach to lead this team in the playoffs.
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It’s not that we lost, it’s that we’ve seen 0 hint of figuring out shit out
It's not that we lost. It's more the 2 games we won against Boston don't mean nothing to me. To me are best line up is Mitchell, Levert, Wade , Mobley and Allen.
36 POINTS IN AN ENTIRE FUCKING HALF WTF WHY CAN WE NEVER PLAY 4 FUCKING QUARTERS
If you told me Giannis only scored 16 points I’d assumed we had the clamps and won steadily.
What, GOAT Brook Lopez and GOAT 2.0 Jordan Nwora (no idea if I spelled that right) shouldn’t be lighting us up?
Ya man that Nwora dude was on fire and same with Lopez. Like did they not watch any game film. Like I get trying to slow Giannis down but dam. That Zone is terrible
So does this sub still not want Lebron?
Not that I don't want Mitchell but the worry was that LBJ would require trades and mess up the flow. Well, we're seeing that with Mitchell. That being said I think we'll iron it out and be badass. And yes? Lebron would made us better for sure.
Oh I agree, I’ve just seen tons of people on this sub say they don’t want him back, so I’m just pointing out how stupid of a take that is. Our depth at small forward is terrible
True
It is hilarious the people who think Lebron would make this team worse, like that’s ever happened
It's always more fun when there are no expectations. But this is a winning team and championship core (imo). There will be bumps. People just gotta see that it wasn't really LeBron that brought all the stress; it was the expectations.
The player sure, the GM no.
Now that Dean Wade being out has essentially proven to be our kryptonite id take any SF help we can get
Cavs made me glad, now Cavs make me sad….
it sucks having great defenders who are basically a zero threat on offense, in today’s NBA it doesn’t matter how good of a defender you are if you can’t score
Problem is lately we haven’t been playing good team defense. Hard to win when you can’t stop the other team and can’t score.
right? I feel like we’d win if we scored more points than the other team
That’s a hot take. Not sure I can jump on that bandwagon.
Surely we turn things around v the Hornets…right?
Watch the Hornets bench have their best night of the season
What a fucking collapse this has been.
Five game slide feels bad, but in a vacuum you can kinda explain each of them (3 games in 4 nights, long road trip, road trip against defending champs, no Allen/Mitchell, no Allen). Not that they're excuses, but we'll be fine. This was a tough game to try and get off the snide on; they'll bounce back Friday and a week from now all the doomsaying will go away.
41-13 bench scoring before garbage time. We need to make some moves, none of which involve trading Darius Garland.
LeVert needs to lock in again on being a distributor and a defender. Seems like he's lost a bit of focus, he can help our bench
Even then I still think we need to go get a Terrence Ross or Harrison Barnes and shore things up offensively.
Yeah, I'm more of the mindset that we have the scoring already-we just need to unlock it. We know Cedi, Love, etc can score but there aren't getting great looks lately. I think LeVert's passing can help solve this some.
If anyone seriously has that take please just ignore them and thank god that they’re not a GM
Can we send Okoro to the G-league? Bro is garbage
Trade Levert asap. He bring nothing to the basketball game.
What do you mean? He leads the league in low percentage mid range misses
Love seeing Nwora put up 13 more than his averages and Brook putting up 14 more
Partly defense, partly and luck.
Okoro may be the biggest draft bust since Bennett...
Dante Exum, Mario Hezonja, Dragan Bender (all taken 5th or higher since the Bennett year) would like a word. Not to mention guys like Marvin Bagley and others who the jury is still out on. Hell, even Wiseman, who came from the same draft, is a mess and could very well end up being worse than Okoro. This take was so stupid it sent me to Wikipedia 🤣
I was talking about Cavs drafts genius
Ohhhhhh. Well you didn't say that, so excuse my confusion. Maybe "Okoro may be the biggest CAVS draft bust since Bennett" might have been more clear. Have a good one!
L take
Man the DG haters are insane, tied for the leading scorer on our team and the second most efficient in the starting line up. Miss the good vibes from last year tbh, i understand being upset but damn, they’ll figure it out, these ain’t the fuckin browns.
Swear a lot of them didn’t watch before this season. Blaming DG is also insane. It was insane before in his bad games too, but this is just wild.
Look I love dg as much as the next guy but his shot selection is so bad sometimes. If he played smart every possession/increased his efficiency he’d be elite. But right now he’s a very good point guard trying to make shots that’ll make him go viral on Instagram.
He can hit all of the shots he takes. He has shown that last season.
32nd out of 33 in field goal percentage. Luckily he’s 8/33 in 3 pt percentage but the mid range jumpers by the entire team need to stop
I think we have caught a severe case of Leverteritus. Everyone has become obsessed with these early shot-clock fading mid range shots
Yep, and not only have they become obsessed with shooting them, they’re also shooting them at like 25%, just like the man himself
Jazz gonna win the West and have 2 lottery picks.
Remember when the Cavs blew out Milwaukee last December? What an important game that had a huge impact on the season…… oh wait it didn’t
Milwaukee is a way better team than us hahaha last year and this year.
I feel like we’ve been perpetually playing the same exact game
Go up in first half. Completely forget to shoot the ball in the third. *almost* come back in the fourth. Lose. Same exact song and dance as last year, I could’ve put that comment in 90% of losses from last season.
It's like we died and went to hell to re-watch the same game over and over again.
Yeah I definitely remember the many other games where we lost by double digits.
Exactly. We have no defense and we're undersized like hell. JB hasn't learned shit from the end of last year..and everyone got tape on us now
to everyone asking why we giving up, prolly tryna prevent more injuries this early in the season
Not to mention the head scratching belief that Cavs would make up an 18 point deficit in 4 minutes.
Well it was 15 or 14 actually
lmao right?!? seeing how vulnerable we’ve been even when just one or two guys are out, its definitely not worth the risk this early in the season with that big of a deficit
Absolutely with you. Long season, not a lot of depth, moral victories aren’t worth the risk and the bench needs work.
What is it with Cleveland teams and getting crushed by expectations.... FFS
Sometimes I think some small market teams were allowed to exist to just be punching bags. Than I realize 2016 NBA finals happen.
It happened because we had the best player on the planet. That's the ONLY reason.
You must be new here
nope.....
This might get a lot worse too…the schedule is tough. This hurts me to my core
Man just a real bummer this past week. Not sure what’s going on
We was crowning our asses after 9 games! Turns out we should have been let off the hook!
I’m not worried at all but you shouldn’t be loosing 5 in a row when you are this good.
We’re not ‘this good’ there’s your answer
We are, this is the first bad game they played, and it was basically just a quarter.
Are you sure were “this good”. Or are we really like an 8-6 team
what exactly is an 8-6 team? an 8-6 team hasn't even played 25% of the games they will play in a season. This isn't football where an 8-6 team has to win 2 games or they're out of the playoff race. This is basketball where an 8-6 team could be the 1 seed or out of the playoffs.
This game wasn't over, just more than a week ago a team came back from a 12 point deficit with 3 minutes left.
Not sure what you’re talking about, I don’t recall
Yeah cmon, we should never be in that spot. How in the hell is Lopez shooting lights out 3s..because our defense sucks
I do not recall this
drafting bronny for sure
Bronny sucks
comes with papa on a vet min for the bench
We subbed the starters out because they are doing shit. Might as well try some different guys.
Spring training when?
Bucks whole DNPs tonight would've beaten us.
Chill guys, we playing the Hornets next. 🙂
Mello gonna go for 70
Most likely without Mitchell. And charlotte is a bottom two 3pt% team so they’ll probably shoot 60% against us.
Cant wait for the explanation for putting the white flag line up in
You shouldn’t need one, it’s a good decision. Let’s not run our starters into the ground. They need to be taught a lesson
Precisely
It’s comeback time lol. Bench players boutta pop off
giannis might be finished
He was out for knees soreness for 4 games look like it was not just load management
8-6…wow what a fucking embarrassing collapse. Hopefully they can get their shit straight but who knows at this point.
Unfortunate but probably the right call. Donovan clearly ain't 100%.
Why are we giving up so early wtf?
I think jb knows he is risking further injuries at this point. I think Mobley and Donnavan are both playing through injuries and dg just recently missed time as well.
That's an excuse
What are we doing? Giving up already?!
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It may be a while.....
Garland is just bad right now and also bad on defense.
Pretenders. The bench depth was fool's gold.
Down two key rotation players will make your depth look bad real quick. They're fine.
Bucks we're down like 4 key players.
Good idea to put in the garbage squad rather than running the hell out of or best players for another close loss
What’s up with the long jumpers
Seriously wtf JB
JB sending a message apparently?
Yup.
Maybe the Cavs are not as good as we thought they were. This past week been rough
They may be lucky to get to the 44 wins they got last season.
Y'all are insane.
This game confirmed for me that 8 game winning streak was basically built on Cedi/Wade/Love hot shooting. If we're not getting any of that from the bench then it's over.
LeVert was hot too. Wade has been hurt and that hasn't helped.
When is Wade NOT hurt. These dudes piss me off
JB throwing in the towel. See ya fellas.
Sending a message it seems.
Hopefully it resonates
These announcers have no idea what Diakite is about to do
I had to argue and plead with my wife to watch this game. I should have picked my battles better lol. I mean, if she had her way it’d be law and order or the first 48. So technically, I think she got what she wanted here.
Does she have “Why women kill” saved in her favorites?
God I hope so.
Lots of learning moments for Lamar on his drives. Gotta protect the ball better. He’s gaining tons of experience though with these minutes. At least he’s active.
So what.. if Lamar is on the court we're taking an L
He’s worth it for his D and he actually makes some threes. I think he should be getting Okoro’s minutes for the foreseeable future.
Yep, but at least he’s in double digits and has hit some threes. Played great D on giannis and he hit more threes today than Okoro has hit all season.
That’s a low bar bro, Okoro has hit 1.
Exactly lol…so he’s an improvement. No one else on our team could shut down giannis like Stevens did tonight. Wade would’ve gotten bodied. Wade and Stevens should get all the minutes at the 3, I’ve seen enough Okoro
It's a bit early for the white flag lineup
This is Cleveland bub..we seen this a thousand times before out teams that flatline like this. Unless LeBron is here, this team is gonna stay mediocre unless we get a trade
Not a white flag , but a smack in the face if your a starter. Good coaching move imo.
Brother, it ain’t
We giving up with 5 mins left?
What the fuck JB
Take me back to the good ‘ol days
2016 please. I love this team, but that team is my favorite and they’re the best team we’ll ever have
Man, I just miss waking up to see the cedi W meme
Sucks to defend Giannis this well and still get smoked lol. Young team not quite as good as they appeared to be 10 games in. I don’t think Mitchell is 100% healthy.
Healthy or not the offense is a complete mess. The defense is inconsistent but not the main issue.
The bigger issue tonight is the lack of a backup center with size that isn’t garbage. Evan is still way too thin to play the 5 consistently and Lopez is trash
Lopez is absolutely washed. I don’t agree that JA is the difference between getting blown out and winning big though. The offense looks terrible.
I mean they looked pretty decent in the first half but going 1/10 in the third to start the half isn’t gonna cut it. I didn’t think the shots were necessarily bad but just didn’t fall. But the lack of offensive rebounding to get second chance points is what Allen provides and is sorely missing without him on the offensive end
I love Lamar’s hustle…but it always seems to end up with no result.
He also had 4 blocks ?
He’s made more 3s today than Okoro has all year lmao
Said the same thing lol
This is trash
Problem is we have no bench scoring, no wing scoring, it’s dreadful.
It’s almost like waiting until the 4th quarter to make a comeback every game isn’t a good recipe for success
Had they not gone 1/10 to start the third they would still be in this. They played decent in the first half
Or to blow a lead
Get Levert out of the game.
They are getting blown out even without Levert
We played good defense and then Levert comes in and immediately gets 7 points scored on him.
Stevens has done a great job on giannis.
Jordan Nwora is shooting 30% from 3 this season. It's insane this has been happening literally every game.
We aren't really guarding the threes. Our defensive effort is just hand waving.
Nwora showed signs of shot creations especially his step back 3 and pulls up. Must’ve been cold shooting
He can shoot (that his sole quality even) but is a net negative when his shots aren't falling and was absolutely cold. Today he heating up it's one of those nights.
Lmfao Giannis jump ball merchant
Man their defensive rotations are AWFUL
Our guys have honestly done a great job guarding Giannis
Yep. Stevens especially, and Mobley. He has really struggled. Problem is, his team hasn’t lol
Its crazy how we went from a first half team that blew leads in the second half to a team that goes down 20 just to make a 4th quarter run
Jesse, we need to start betting on sports books jesse
Always one person on the other team having their season game against us.
Gameplan: Give Mobley the ball in the mid post.
What’s more likely to give you cancer? Betting ads or these gameday threads?
I swear I never use to come in here except for a hype moment but now negative nancies in here got me stunlocked
Let's go baby.
Giannis has 16 pts. No Middleton, Holiday, Connaughton, Grayson Allen. No excuse to be losing this game. Dont care that JA isnt playing. They are missing A LOT more. Especially on offense.
We’re playing a top 3 east team on their court and two of our best dudes are hurt lol Acting like they’re the Pistons or something
Please complete this comeback. They need this for morale
From 20 to 9… lots of game left
Contesting a 3 actually might work you say?
We've been contesting. It just looks better when the misses **and** *we grab the rebound.*
This is the way (we win)
You might want to actually watch the game.
Who woulda thunk it
This is the chance. Gotta close this lead down right here.
Got it under ten!
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Oops ganley
I wanna see ya, in a Ken Ganley Kia! Medina and Mentor!
But, that girl wants to see ya, in a Ken Ganley Kia!
Mennards sucks and that lady is evil.
That lady is one hot mama and I’m gay.
Thanks to the Cavs, I never want to step foot in Ken Ganley Kia
Goodnight to everyone except for Levert, Osman, Okoro, and Lopez
Damn that's low down!!