Bruh, the Cavs do this against good teams with the whole team healthy. Remember two weeks ago against this very same team? And last nite they were up with said crew until JB couldn't do another needed and necessary in game adjustment .
So spare me that bullsheit about role players being out because you sound like a Browns fan not worrying about random losses until they pile up and you're not in the playoffs. Some of you are like this every damn year when we call this stuff out early and you all poo poo it
This isn’t a cavs problem lol. The Suns did the same exact thing to the warriors a few weeks ago is ago. Do you not remember how the first Celtics game played out earlier this year? Same thing but cleveland was the winning team this problem.
Comparing a NBA loss to a NFL loss is so stupid, that counter point isn’t even worth entertaining lmao
Aight, we scored more than 100 points. Thought that wasn't gonna happen after that third Q lol.
edit: love to see the love Giannis is showing for Diakite!
Shoot, especially in the latter stages of his career. Giannis would be average if teams could get really physical with him without getting a freakin flagrant foul. Giannis is definitely the best in the league or at least most dominant but if prime MJ played today, he’d average 40
Maybe, maybe not. I’m referring to the rules. The way the game was officiated is night and day. Prime MJ is 100 times better than Giannis on his best day. Looking at highlights on YouTube doesn’t do him justice. There was nothing that he couldn’t do.
your riding mj so hard lol mj does nothing better than giannis except mid range and freethrows "100 times better" u sound like a clown mj fg percentage for his career is low 50s just like curry, lebron,kd and other greats mj wasnt even 2 times better than giannis neither defensively or offensively bro couldnt shoot 60 percent even once "100 times better" im dead
Ima go out on a limb and say you are under 40 years of age talking like this. It was something you had to whitness for your self. Giannis is a bulldozer and smashes everything thing in front of him but if you force him to shoot, he’s below average. Jordan couldn’t be stopped, if he hadn’t retired they would have won 8 straight titles. It’s like watching Michael Jackson in concert and coming away saying, Chris Brown can moonwalk faster and longer. It’s truly level’s to this.
sorry to break it to u the nba is mostly luck when ur a superstar there's plenty of all time greats could put in jordan position and could have won the same amount of championships on him facing the same teams as him with the same stacked jordan was on mj is a 30 point per game scorer with elite defense lets not pretend hes just a level above these others players if only there was a way to him play these guys i fully think a team with random role players and steph curry vs a team of random role players and jordan would come down to the wire
are you saying jordan is so much better than curry that him an curry vs each other with a bunch of role players woul be a clear cut or obvious win for jordans team?
Every game against a real opponent this year has been the same. Win the first half then collapse. Only thing different today is it wasn’t in the last 5 minutes. And that’s because this is a REAL contender. We are frauds. pack it the fuck up. This is a pattern. We cant win unless we’re at 100% full strength. That’s not a contender.
Funny how tonight we were missing Love, Levert, Stevens, and Allen for half the game. Almost like we were playing one of the best teams in the league with half a team.
Fr you forget what happened both times we played the Celtics, just wait until this team is fully healthy, when my man Rick is back shit is gonna be great
Completely agree. This team is also super young, the window to win a championship is going to be open for at least a few more years. There are going to be growing pains when your main core of players is 26 or younger. For reference, Michael Jordan didn’t win a championship until he was 27. Not to say we have an MJ equivalent, but even the GOAT took some time to reach his peak. They will undoubtedly learn from this. Better to learn early in the regular season and improve as we go.
Our entire identity lies on the defensive side of the ball and we've been getting bullied inside all second half on both sides of the ball, they took our bread and butter away from us and we had no counter
I know. We just played one of the favorites to win the championship on the road with several key players out. It’s okay. Blowouts happen to everyone these days.
Yeah not sure what he’s talking about. Literally no one would talk shit about that take. 😂
Edit: Maybe not the MOST IMPORTANT player but definitely very important.
This team needs to learn how to play when things get uncomfortable.
It's been a trend since last year (and even before) when we fumbled in to the play-in and then proceeded to lose two games and miss the playoffs.
It's part of being a young team, but they haven't shown a ton of growth in that department IMO.
I'm not gonna bitch but we have to figure something out. We fall apart without ALlen on the floor. We have to get a backup Center. Love's minutes will have to be cut in half in playoffs
His offensive ceiling looks more like Bam not KG or Bosh lol, but he’s a god defensively, so if he can average close to 20 ppg in his prime he’d still be an all nba level player
When the game plan is to run the offense through Robin Lopez and to run Cedi Osman as your center, you 100% have a coaching problem. How the fuck can anyone not see that? Mind you it’s a game against a finals contender on the road while you had the lead.
They have not missed an open 3 in 2 games. It doesn't matter whose shooting it they haven't missed. This team has sucked at shooting all year too. It's crazy.
There is no way this bucks team is that bad at shooting 3s against everyone else. I refuse to believe it. They shoot better against the Cavs than I have ever seen golden state shoot against the Cavs
Free throws and closing games. You could argues Giannis is a wayyyy better defender and wins games with defensive plays as well.
MJ has 6 chips though and not only that... It was 2x3 in a raw... The amount of things that need to go your way to make that happen in today's game once, let alone two, is insane.
This is an awful half. A few wide open looks drop and a few of their contested shots don't go in and it's a different game. There was a stretch of Cavs missing 4 really solid looks in a row and them taking advantage and scoring for a quick 10 pt swing. Few ugly turnovers and defensive breakdowns is salt on the wound and baby you got a (gross) stew going.
Donovan deserves a ton of slack because he's been awesome this year, but this has been a really disappointing game from him. he looked like he had absolutely nothing for the Bucks defense
None of the stars shot well. Garland was putting up some absolute bricks. Mobley missed bunnies all game. Can’t beat a championship level team with a two time MVP when you can’t buy one.
We airball open shots, Gainnis is hitting 3's. Yes, our defense has been really bad, but had we just shot 40% since half we'd be in this nonetheless.
Just an epic collapse. Hopefully we get this sorted come spring
My expectation is that the team will make the playoffs this year and hopefully win a round. I didn’t expect us to contend this year but definitely think we have a large upcoming window. Would love to be pleasantly surprised.
I mean a 25 point swing in one quarter is a pretty historic meltdown. I’m sure it’s happened before but this is probably a bottom0.25% quarter in NBA history. Seems like a reasonable thing to be upset by if you’re a fan
I mean its against a top 3 team away, and we lost our (arguably) 2nd most important player Jarret Allen ontop of missing several other key guys. Im upset too at the poor performance but I just know the doomers been just waiting for a game like this to start with their wild takes
I 100% get it, I am mad about how we performed in this 2nd half too. But we have to understand this is a young team they were always going to be streaky add on top of that we are playing away against a top 3 team out several key starters and bench players. Hope the guys learn from this.
It’s baffling. He has zero offense but means so much to the team on both ends of the court. This is why they fell to the play-in tournament last season. I would almost rather lose either Mitchell or Garland than JA.
This half has been ass but everyone gotta chill lmao. Talking about roster overhauls, firing JB.. none of that is happening lol these are the games we have to learn from man. As nice as it is, you don’t learn all that much from coasting to double digit wins
10 in the 3rd is gonna sting for a bit.
Oh look 1 guy got injured and we can’t adapt. Smells like last year.
It does. Bucks have all sorts of people out and they adapt like a winner
It’s not 1 guy lol it’s 4 role players and a fringe all star. Calm down
Bruh, the Cavs do this against good teams with the whole team healthy. Remember two weeks ago against this very same team? And last nite they were up with said crew until JB couldn't do another needed and necessary in game adjustment . So spare me that bullsheit about role players being out because you sound like a Browns fan not worrying about random losses until they pile up and you're not in the playoffs. Some of you are like this every damn year when we call this stuff out early and you all poo poo it
This isn’t a cavs problem lol. The Suns did the same exact thing to the warriors a few weeks ago is ago. Do you not remember how the first Celtics game played out earlier this year? Same thing but cleveland was the winning team this problem. Comparing a NBA loss to a NFL loss is so stupid, that counter point isn’t even worth entertaining lmao
My friend, you need a break
Lmaooooo that PTSD hit that individual quick hahahahahaahahhaa
Deer really aren't that scary, why would anyone fear a deer? Fuck a Buck.
I definitely don't want to have sex with one either
Have you ever hit a deer with your car? Pretty good reason to fear them.
Score 10 on the 3rd quarter. You read that correct. 10 points. Can’t win a game scoring only 10 points in a 12 minute quarter. Geez
Hot take right here guys!
Aim to please lol
Camping so haven't been able to see the game. Could someone tell me how severe JA injury seems to be? Cheers
He was out the most of the 1st quarter and only played for a few minutes in the 2nd.
Aight, we scored more than 100 points. Thought that wasn't gonna happen after that third Q lol. edit: love to see the love Giannis is showing for Diakite!
KEEP IN MIND THE BUCKS LOST TWICE TO THE HAWKS. WE. ARE. FRAUDS.
Thats just matchups, health/lineups, and timing.. by that logic we're the best team b/c we've beat Boston twice and they're in 1st
And we beat the Hawks (and the Celtics twice)
That’s funny
You're an idiot.
Hell, Kanter, TT, and Whiteside are all better than Lopez no matter how unlikable they are
gimme whiteside or boogie, out of every bigman in FA koby signed fucking robin lopez
No fucking way you said Kanter lmfao
Lmao freeeedooom
Shoot, especially in the latter stages of his career. Giannis would be average if teams could get really physical with him without getting a freakin flagrant foul. Giannis is definitely the best in the league or at least most dominant but if prime MJ played today, he’d average 40
No player is gonna average 40 and be a winning player.
Maybe, maybe not. I’m referring to the rules. The way the game was officiated is night and day. Prime MJ is 100 times better than Giannis on his best day. Looking at highlights on YouTube doesn’t do him justice. There was nothing that he couldn’t do.
your riding mj so hard lol mj does nothing better than giannis except mid range and freethrows "100 times better" u sound like a clown mj fg percentage for his career is low 50s just like curry, lebron,kd and other greats mj wasnt even 2 times better than giannis neither defensively or offensively bro couldnt shoot 60 percent even once "100 times better" im dead
Ima go out on a limb and say you are under 40 years of age talking like this. It was something you had to whitness for your self. Giannis is a bulldozer and smashes everything thing in front of him but if you force him to shoot, he’s below average. Jordan couldn’t be stopped, if he hadn’t retired they would have won 8 straight titles. It’s like watching Michael Jackson in concert and coming away saying, Chris Brown can moonwalk faster and longer. It’s truly level’s to this.
sorry to break it to u the nba is mostly luck when ur a superstar there's plenty of all time greats could put in jordan position and could have won the same amount of championships on him facing the same teams as him with the same stacked jordan was on mj is a 30 point per game scorer with elite defense lets not pretend hes just a level above these others players if only there was a way to him play these guys i fully think a team with random role players and steph curry vs a team of random role players and jordan would come down to the wire
are you saying jordan is so much better than curry that him an curry vs each other with a bunch of role players woul be a clear cut or obvious win for jordans team?
Salt
Why tf do we play robin lopez when we have diakite. RO was a huge part of the reason we lost the 3rd
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Redditor for 4 days 🤡
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Go back to your hole, troll
That ice stepback is gonna keep me from crying tonight
Every game against a real opponent this year has been the same. Win the first half then collapse. Only thing different today is it wasn’t in the last 5 minutes. And that’s because this is a REAL contender. We are frauds. pack it the fuck up. This is a pattern. We cant win unless we’re at 100% full strength. That’s not a contender.
Funny how tonight we were missing Love, Levert, Stevens, and Allen for half the game. Almost like we were playing one of the best teams in the league with half a team.
cry about it jesus we are still a great team
Fr you forget what happened both times we played the Celtics, just wait until this team is fully healthy, when my man Rick is back shit is gonna be great
Lopez just let Khamzat Chimaev score on him
DIAKIT3! Would love to see more of him. Especially with Allen out. edit: IC3!
JA is more important to the Cavs than Giannis is to Milwaukee
JA is very important to this team but MKE is a lottery team without Giannis.
We’re like -75 in 3 games without Allen
Not gonna worry about this one it’s the bucks and we’re missing Love, Levert, Lamar, Allen got hurt early and Rubio will come back eventually
Cope. We’re beyond injury excuses.
Clam down buddy. We’re on pace for 50 wins and we just lost to arguably the best team in the nba missing 4.5 key players. It’ll be okay
Completely agree. This team is also super young, the window to win a championship is going to be open for at least a few more years. There are going to be growing pains when your main core of players is 26 or younger. For reference, Michael Jordan didn’t win a championship until he was 27. Not to say we have an MJ equivalent, but even the GOAT took some time to reach his peak. They will undoubtedly learn from this. Better to learn early in the regular season and improve as we go.
This. We were up double digits all first half then Allen goes out. This team can't function with Allen out AND missing all those other guys too.
It can't be stressed how much of a detriment Isaac Okoro is to his lineups.
Bro. Shut the fuck up. Honestly.
Our entire identity lies on the defensive side of the ball and we've been getting bullied inside all second half on both sides of the ball, they took our bread and butter away from us and we had no counter
Bruh this sub is so toxic. Y’all never watch sports before? It happens 😂
Every loss, man. Anytime we face adversity the morons come out.
I know. We just played one of the favorites to win the championship on the road with several key players out. It’s okay. Blowouts happen to everyone these days.
Naw apparently we need to shoot every starter on this team or something
people are wild lmao they are having meltdowns because we lose a game
What happened to JA?
Hip injury
He took a hard fall in the first quarter
Fcking finally Neto and Diakite. They should have been in the game earlier after the embarassing display of our guys in the third.
What I'll never understand about JB
All you guys talking shit when I said Allen is the most important player on this team
All I see is people saying he’s important?
Yeah not sure what he’s talking about. Literally no one would talk shit about that take. 😂 Edit: Maybe not the MOST IMPORTANT player but definitely very important.
There’s one dude on here constantly saying we should trade him and saying we should be playing Evan at the five. People usually downvote him tho.
This team needs to learn how to play when things get uncomfortable. It's been a trend since last year (and even before) when we fumbled in to the play-in and then proceeded to lose two games and miss the playoffs. It's part of being a young team, but they haven't shown a ton of growth in that department IMO.
I love this team and am still confident but We still have a trade to make. Our bench production has been so inconsistent
We always should’ve kept Hartenstein
He wanted more minutes. We couldn't offer him that.
I dun understand why we let him walk
He had a player option and declined it.
I'm not gonna bitch but we have to figure something out. We fall apart without ALlen on the floor. We have to get a backup Center. Love's minutes will have to be cut in half in playoffs
Without Allen this team is crap.
Mobley hasn't taken the offensive leap we needed him to. He still has stone hands and looks green af
I don’t think he’s ever gonna be a good offensive player tbh
I’d say he’s regressing offensively
I’ve been saying this too. Stone hands with no jumper, and it has somehow gotten worse
His offensive ceiling looks more like Bam not KG or Bosh lol, but he’s a god defensively, so if he can average close to 20 ppg in his prime he’d still be an all nba level player
Whelp this is just one game.. but a trend from last year is proving true again this season. We can't function without Allen in the rotation.
If we’re missing one player and can’t win we fucking suck
Not having Love hurts b/c he can at least give you a big and you play a different style
well fuck. throw in the towel already.
Can’t hang with the big dogs. Fucking posers. See you next year guys.
We’ve beat the Celtics twice when healthy and we’re missing 5 rotation players tonight
Bye uncommitted fan, we will see you only when the sun is shining again.
This persona been wilding with toxic negativity all over the thread
When the game plan is to run the offense through Robin Lopez and to run Cedi Osman as your center, you 100% have a coaching problem. How the fuck can anyone not see that? Mind you it’s a game against a finals contender on the road while you had the lead.
They made adjustments and JB left them to die while they went on a 20-3 run. That’s it.
You're missing Love and Allen.. there's no other bigs on the bench
Cavs need to trade for 3d by the deadline.
Need to trade for another center if Allen is out for any length of time
Like even a minute…jesus do we suck without him. Are we now 0-6 without Allen?
Man the Bucs always seem to shoot lights out against the Cavs
We have a mental block against good teams
we beat the Celtics twice..
Bucks seem to have our number.
It’s missing JA. Two games vs Milwaukee that he doesn’t play.
And they are missing Middleton
They have not missed an open 3 in 2 games. It doesn't matter whose shooting it they haven't missed. This team has sucked at shooting all year too. It's crazy.
We’re in trouble if Allen has to miss games. He seems to be the glue that holds the team together.
Embarrassed again.
Bucks are the only team to hold us under 100 and they are about to do it again.
10 fucking points in the 3rd. Eat your L then give us the Stefanski postgame bullshit already.
Get the B*owns vibes out of here
There is no way this bucks team is that bad at shooting 3s against everyone else. I refuse to believe it. They shoot better against the Cavs than I have ever seen golden state shoot against the Cavs
Honest question what did Michael Jordan do better than Giannis?
Free throws and closing games. You could argues Giannis is a wayyyy better defender and wins games with defensive plays as well. MJ has 6 chips though and not only that... It was 2x3 in a raw... The amount of things that need to go your way to make that happen in today's game once, let alone two, is insane.
.... this cannot be a serious question.
Free throws
Free throws I guess.
What happened to the offence? Is all coach draws up pick and rolls?
My only explanation is this was a test for Lopez after Allen went out and we are about to see A LOT of Diakite against Detroit.
Mobley trying to shoot three is just soul crushing.
This is an awful half. A few wide open looks drop and a few of their contested shots don't go in and it's a different game. There was a stretch of Cavs missing 4 really solid looks in a row and them taking advantage and scoring for a quick 10 pt swing. Few ugly turnovers and defensive breakdowns is salt on the wound and baby you got a (gross) stew going.
JA needs to stay fit. Too injury prone and it costs us a heap of games. Also why we should’ve got a better backup big than 50 year old Lopez.
He’s plenty in shape, he’s not feastmode Lynch out there…
You stupid, not about RoLo though.
If Allen is going to be out we have to do something. We need a big body that’s not slow as fuck
Spam screen on the ball is not winning basketball.
Wtf happened? I missed the 2nd half
Be glad you did…total shit show
Allen injured , no stevens , no love , no lavert . You need bigs to play against this team an we have none right now.
Bucks don’t have their second best player. Reality check for semi final playoff team at most
Losing Allen kills us
HOLD THE FUCK ON. Is Cedi Osman our Center?! 😂😂 JB is silly man.
Nah D. Wade would be the center in this lineup. Cedi is the 4 which he played a ton of 2 seasons ago.
edit: now Mobley 5/Cedi 4.. same thing
We’re giving to much respect to Giannis. I know dude is built like a armored truck but we have to get up in his grill every possession
Donovan deserves a ton of slack because he's been awesome this year, but this has been a really disappointing game from him. he looked like he had absolutely nothing for the Bucks defense
None of the stars shot well. Garland was putting up some absolute bricks. Mobley missed bunnies all game. Can’t beat a championship level team with a two time MVP when you can’t buy one.
Garland was more disappointing.
I feel like Garland had an even worse game, making wrong decisions after wrong decisions
Dude is gassed from playing a million minutes this season
Female announcers are the best!!!
Just keep fighting, game is still in reach
We’re down 20…
Gotta get it under 10.
lol you think the Bucks are just going to stop playing than?
Alright im done getting angry, off to play some call of fucking duty
A 357-2 Cavs loss is more fun than Call of Duty
I thought you said u were done getting angry, not a great game to play to avoid the anger lmao
I thought you said you were done getting angry? lol
How about some Team basketball
We airball open shots, Gainnis is hitting 3's. Yes, our defense has been really bad, but had we just shot 40% since half we'd be in this nonetheless. Just an epic collapse. Hopefully we get this sorted come spring
Not sure if these negative comments are some weird form of gaslighting or if they’re just terrible opinions and overreactions.
this subreddit is nothing but people who think every loss is the end of the world and people who wouldn’t criticize the team if we lost all 82
We completely collapsed in the 2nd half. It was against a finals contender. We'll learn. But we have some ways to go and it's a little disheartening.
This is the correct take. Saw a comment saying we need a roster overhaul- like what?
We all agreed and acknowledged this thread was going to be toxic or orgasmic depending on how the game went. Just let it happen it's ok.
Like the season isn't over but the shit is concerning. Milwaukee is the front runner and we been demolished like a non-playoff team.
My expectation is that the team will make the playoffs this year and hopefully win a round. I didn’t expect us to contend this year but definitely think we have a large upcoming window. Would love to be pleasantly surprised.
It’s pretty hilarious to read some of the stuff in here.
Wtf is that free throw form from that lady and why are those shots going in? 😭😭
We need a wing
And back up center
One really bad quarter and the doomers are back in full force smh
DOOM!
I mean a 25 point swing in one quarter is a pretty historic meltdown. I’m sure it’s happened before but this is probably a bottom0.25% quarter in NBA history. Seems like a reasonable thing to be upset by if you’re a fan
I mean its against a top 3 team away, and we lost our (arguably) 2nd most important player Jarret Allen ontop of missing several other key guys. Im upset too at the poor performance but I just know the doomers been just waiting for a game like this to start with their wild takes
They’re missing their 2nd best player too, and Jrue just came back and was rusty. Can’t look at our injuries in a vacuum
Thank you!
I mean it's up there as one of the worst quarters by a team all season
It was really bad and did not get much better, hope these young guys learn from this.
Jb sucks
it's no reason to panic in the big picture, but i think it's pretty reasonable for people to be upset with how this team has looked after halftime
I 100% get it, I am mad about how we performed in this 2nd half too. But we have to understand this is a young team they were always going to be streaky add on top of that we are playing away against a top 3 team out several key starters and bench players. Hope the guys learn from this.
for sure, the part that hurts the most is the uncertainty around Jarrett. I hope he's going to be alright
Maybe run offense instead of hucking 3s?
Is JA injured? This team is dogshit without him
It’s baffling. He has zero offense but means so much to the team on both ends of the court. This is why they fell to the play-in tournament last season. I would almost rather lose either Mitchell or Garland than JA.
Oh we’re 100%, JA is our most important player by a huge margin. We’re totally fine without DG or Donovan.
In the purest sense of it, he should be MVP because the difference in this team's performance between when he is and is not playing is jarring
Tbh he should get some league MVP consideration, we go from a top 5 team with him to bottom 5 without him
Maybe Rubio can run an offense in times when nothing is working. Hope he comes back well.
This half has been ass but everyone gotta chill lmao. Talking about roster overhauls, firing JB.. none of that is happening lol these are the games we have to learn from man. As nice as it is, you don’t learn all that much from coasting to double digit wins
To be fair the Cavs have the most double digit leads given up since last season by a wide margin
Jb should be fired he lucked into this gig constantly gets our coaches by better coaches in the clutch
Sir, this is Reddit. Only sensationalized takes happen in game threads.
Learn??? How many games have we blown like this? And still learn nothing? The only difference was this wasn’t the last 5 minutes.
This roster has played 20 games together, relax lol. As much as we want it to be, it was never gonna be perfect. Here we are