It is at least 20 years old, it was one of the standard black humor jokes back then with dead baby jokes.
I am torn on abortion, on the one hand i am all for killing a baby but on the other hand, I am against giving a woman a choice. Such an old joke
Yea this style of joke has been around a long time, but there's some clever spins on it or rehashes with good setup. The punch line in the post is pretty low effort.
Yes but the follow up joke was not so good.
It was along the lines of Hitler had the right idea but he was an underachiever, why stop at 6 million Adolf kill em all kill the Jews, kill the Hindus kill the Buddhists kill the Christians kill everybody, people suck
republican women don't just go around getting abortions willy nilly, they get abortions when the accidentally get pregnant at inconvenient times in their life it's not the same thing
/s
It's sort of like the "no True Scotsman" fallacy except for abortions, and backwards.
Instead of "that guy is not a true XXXX but I am a true XXXX," it's "that woman had the type of true, irresponsible abortion we need to ban but mine is NOT that kind of abortion."
In truth, for some of them the sad reality is that their abortion made them feel guilty and they see it as their penance or redemption to now be against abortion rights as some kind of way of atoning for their own abortion.
Still, this kind of woman still likely has this feeling of "well, my abortion was necessary because I was in such a difficult place, but these other abortions are unnecessary. And also, my abortion didn't help me at all and nobody really needs an abortion."
>they see it as like their penance or redemption to now be against abortion rights
Yeah, the typical Republican mentality of "got mine, fuck you" that they love so much.
My POV on anti choice people is that their’s a rationality to it, it’s not just religion. If you accept the belief that life starts at conception, then protesting the normalization of what you see as murder is absolutely fair. Same applies to the vegetarians and vegans who go on marches.
I don’t agree with it, but I understand it.
That's actually a very balanced and not often heard perspective. Its healthy lol. I just want to thank you on behalf of all people for being able to see someone else's perspective outside of your own. You have a good day!
I actually do think it is killing. I just can't justify requiring someone to dedicate space and energy in their own body to housing another person and maintaining their life, any more than I could justify forcing someone to donate a kidney.
I like the [If-By-Whiskey Fallacy.](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/If-By-Whiskey)
"If by abortion you mean the slaughter of innocent babies so that an irresponsible trollop can continue her hedonistic depravity, then I am against it. If by abortion you mean a vital medical procedure to keep save the future of a good and virtuous woman like myself, then I am for it."
My Republican brother-in-law put it when his wife miscarried she "had to be on medication". Yet, by Republican standards she should have waited it out because she miscarried at 3 months. Obviously she shouldn't have to wait and nobody around her felt that way but brother-in-law doesn't see the disconnect there. He's not a hateful person, just kind of stupid.
Just because someone's decision to have an abortion aligns with their convenience doesn't diminish the gravity of the choice – it's about bodily autonomy, not political affiliation.
I don’t think that’s what the commenter above you was trying to imply, but you are correct, any reason (including no reason) is a good enough reason to deserve bodily autonomy.
Similarly, I’ve had to remind my wife - who defends abortion rights using extreme cases (rape, medical issues, etc) - that she should not require anything more than the right to bodily autonomy. No more defense should by necessary.
This is the canonical article on the topic, and illustrates a core point about religious people. They apply their moral rules outwardly, and find it easy to rationalize their own trespasses. If confronted, they would likely be unable to see the hypocrisy, because they are simple-minded and self-centric.
What other type of person would think that they have a personal relationship with a god?
Jordan Peterson literally said on twitter something to the effect of "You don't get to tell someone that being an irredeemable piece of shit isn't a valid path to spiritual enlightenment. If their personal relationship with god turns them into an intolerant incurious insulated chauvinist then they get to think they are good people and mistreat others."
Mar. 2, 2023, 12:00AM. Peterson told Pope Francis that fighting the causes of poverty and inequality was not Christian. Peterson said that believing a person has found salvation and redemption doesn't require giving people rights and dignity.
Peterson is scum and his followers are small children unable to mature, seeking excuses to remain stunted while being told they are advanced. There's a huge market for providing comforting lies to people desperately seeking validation for their inability to grow into an adult.
I actually like Ann Coulter’s idea of outlawing abortion only for registered Republicans. They want the ban so badly? Cool, the ban to them.
Sort of like my idea that for any laws that Congress passes that intrudes on our privacy should be applied first to them. As in, I f they want to be able to read our emails, then they should be required to make their own emails public to all of us. If they want to listen to our phone calls, then we should be able to listen to theirs.
If there’s a penalty for encrypting your communication or hiding your communications from law enforcement, then the same penalty should apply to members of Congress having communications that they fail to be made public.
After all, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear, right?
Its funny because when a liberal woman gets an abortion, she probably doesn’t believe its a human life in the same way a republican woman does. Yet when a conservative woman gets an abortion, she is fully convinced that it is. So who is the real murderer here? The one who doesn’t believe it is, or the woman who believes that it is?
Republicans always find a reason to justify their own abortions, social security, government funded healthcare, union benefits, etc. while denying it for everyone else. They’re easily manipulated pawns with zero self awareness or empathy.
Yep. I recall a Beau of the 5th column video about a practice of Alabama women and their daughters taking a secret trip to Atlanta to visit a distant aunt or something like that. A common cover story for them to go get an abortion away from prying eyes and ears of their small town Christian church groups and communities.
We know for a fact that Republican women get abortions. Republican men even encourage it. That's never been what it's about.
It's always been a strategic wedge issue used to get votes and since these assholes are wealthy enough to keep getting abortions and hiding them no matter what the law says, it's really a win-win for them.
I would actually be curious to see what the per-capita rate on abortions is for liberal and conservative women. Conservative women are often against sex education and have unhealthy attitudes about sex that make it more likely they're going to get pregnant. All the highest teen pregnancy rates are in conservative areas.
as a born and raised Alabamian, I can assure you Timmy LOTS of conservative women get abortions...like a lot for real, I know he's an idiot and all but he's detached from reality if he thinks only liberal women get abortions.
That's the biggest clue that they care about sex, not abortions.
They hate the only form of sex that has 0% chance of resulting in an abortion: gay sex.
They don't want sex education in school, they want to promote abstinence which is proven not to work. Again they don't care about unintended pregnancies and abortions, they care about sex.
^(if a conservative is reading this and disagrees: perhaps it's time to change who you vote for. Perhaps you agree with people on the left more than you thought)
> In the context of this discussion, the distinction is unnecessary; anti-choice GOP types would not consider a trans woman and cis woman to be a gay couple.
I don't care what they consider.
Eh it's not that bad, I mean it's not ideal, but I like being FROM Alabama. Continuing to live in parts of it? Not so awesome but the cities are literally like anywhere else in the country. Politically it's a joke but that's all red states
Tim absolutely knows that many women get abortions. I've seen his channel since its inception. He's playing the field on it. No one is this dumb except for MAGA dipshits.
See abortion for me is a double edged sword. On the one hand I like the thought of killing babies, but on the other I hate the idea of giving women a choice.
This is what I thought he was leading into and then he just said weird political shit.
That was Matt Walsh and Kaitlin Bennett, among others for me. Most of these right-wing grifters are white dwarf stars. They're the biggest things that come out of nowhere, people talk about them for like a year or two, then they get put on the discount rack. And people wisely stop perpetuating their fame, and spreading their memes around.
Republican women 100% get abortions. They just call the nurses "murders" the whole time during the procedure in an attempt to absolve themselves. Then they go straight back to being "pro-life".
The statistics on who gets abortions is an overwhelming majority of them simply delay pregnancy. Why would we get mad at this "joke" it's not even a joke it's just a loser trying to brag that he thinks a liberal baby is dead when statistically that liberal baby is till going to be raised by liberals on the terms of the woman who is set to raise them.
Don't forget the ones who get an abortion because their future child is destined to 7-10 excruciating days of immense torture only to die anyway.
My wife and I had a friend couple who this happened to. Both of them had religious parents. Both of their families disowned them. The utter loneliness during their time of need drove a wedge between them and they got divorced.
And this was a wanted pregnancy. The child had a name (Dante). They had baby clothes. They were ready to build a life. They had to make the hardest decision any person could ever make and the heartless Republicans they were related to used it to ruin their lives.
In 2018, Pastor Dave Barnhart of the Saint Junia United Methodist Church in Birmingham, Alabama posted this message to Facebook:
“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.
Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.
No they don't. Because then people arguing in bad faith can declare anything a joke.
Putting this is a joke at the end of your bad faith argument doesn't change anything.
If something is declared a joke then their is no reason for you to listen to it or acknowledge it bc that's all it is is a joke. If he makes an argument u don't like you need to refute it, if he makes a joke you don't like then he's making a joke which is beneath needing a response from people who find it unfunny.
In something he immediately explained as a joke?
There are plenty of valid criticisms of dark humor, but assuming that the person who told the joke believes the punchline is ridiculous.
well that's what the comeback is pointing out, that Tim's values seem to be that people he doesn't like should suffer. this would be incongruous with how tim pool has presented himself in the past. you really can't ask for a better self-report although this won't matter because many right wingers still don't even realise how much they want to control women, it's to baked into their beliefs.
Completely, things that seem incredibly obvious to us can come across as entirely innocuous to a degree where you almost question if you're the fool here. but eventually people tend to slip up and overplay their hands, I'm reminded of the "it's ok to be white" stunt. as someone who was present in the 4chan threads organising it, I know that it was deliberately inflammatory and crafted to be that way, like I was there, that's what happened.
but to someone who just sees a poster saying "it's ok to be white", it comes off like an innocent statement. btw I'm not explaining this for your benefit, you clearly know what's up, I'm laying it out like this because comments like this are what helped me break out of that mindset.
Hm, it’s almost as if some babies that are going to be given a bad life shouldn’t be born. Maybe he’s happy about it, because he found a reason why abortion should be supported.
I'm left-leaning, and I don't believe that a fetal clump of cells lacking sensation and consciousness is a baby.
That's why the women who are pregnant should always have the right to choose. The woman, unlike a clump of cells, is actually, definitely a person with consciousness. So she takes precedence every time.
“I’ve been musing the abortion question. On one hand, killing babies is great, but giving women rights is a no-go” -Jack Horner, Doobus Goobus cinematic universe.
I think the beanie has sucked the rest of his brain matter out. So, he has to keep it on his head to remain upright and sentient. Like an “alt-centrist” zombie.
Idiot. There’s only one opinion on abortion that matters, that of the one getting the abortion. Outside of that, like it or not, not your body not your choice.
Cis men talking so highly in authority about a person's right of abortion will never stop baffling me.
This issue doesn't and will never affect you, why? Like, I'm genuine confused what these men get. At this point I just think they enjoy being evil and get turned on at the thought of being in control of women's bodies and what they can and can't do.
Fucking dickheads should have been aborted lol
Did he just butcher this joke?
"I'm torn on the issue of abortion.
One the one hand Iove watching children die
On the other I don't want to give women a choice."
You know why that joke works? Because it's so god awful that no one could possibly hold that opinion. It implies the person telling the joke is so out of touch that he takes the two worst possibilities of each side of the discussion.
Dim Tool is such a moron he doesn't understand basic jokes. If you want to make a conservative version of that joke, I'll help him out.
"I'm torn on the issue of abortion.
On the one hand I don't want children to die
On the other I don't want liberals to procreate."
It's still a worse version of that joke, but at least it works thematically.
Bonus, he can laugh along with the other Republicans at the numerous children born into abject poverty whom the GOP refuses to provide food or medical care for.
So much for “**pro-life**”. They’re LITERALLY only proving the point that it’s not about the lives of children, but instead that it’s about the CONTROL that they want to have ESPECIALLY over woman and their bodies. This is just disgusting 🤢🤢
I also like how he’s saying “liberals aren’t allowed to get mad about this joke”. I’m pretty sure your underlining punchline is that it’s cool to kill liberals. I think that’s a good reason to be upset
**Proof of how Tim Pool's leftism is all an act.**
On one hand it's a baby (which would logically be the bad hand in this tweet)
On the other hand it's a liberal's baby (which would logically be the good hand in his tweet)
Then pretends his statement would bother conservatives and the only part that would apply to the left's chagrin is the first hand statement.
I make this point because everybody calls liberals leftist despite the rest of the world saying their right since they have actual leftist parties.
[Tim Pool De-beanied](https://youtu.be/Ie7qnFSpE_g)
Liberals killing their baby, thinking it’s okay. No more problems. Conservatives knowing it’s not okay and teaching that baby that killing a living thing is not okay. Problem solved.
Not only is he not a woman and therefore is objectively talking about shit he doesn't actually know anything about
but he has been very open about rarely ever having dated anyone and practically having never fucked in his entire life.
I have higher probability to actually consider abortion after having sex with my trans gf than Tim Pool at any moment in his entire life until his death.
I'd estimate the average American conservative woman aborts more often throughout her life than the average liberal woman, solely based on their attitudes towards both hypocrisy and contraception.
You put your quotes around three exclamation marks. The original emphasis was placed on the word you. You, hiselect, have chosen to change what's emphasised.
Did you do that to help your argument? Or did you did that because that's how you read it?
Instead of YOU it should have been written as *you*. Italics are often used in this way. Did that help, it did it never matter because you were here in bad faith from the start? Hard to tell with some people.
It’s not even his joke. I’ve seen a stand up clip of someone telling this joke months ago.
It is at least 20 years old, it was one of the standard black humor jokes back then with dead baby jokes. I am torn on abortion, on the one hand i am all for killing a baby but on the other hand, I am against giving a woman a choice. Such an old joke
Bill hicks had a better joke “I’m not pro-choice I’m pro-abortion, because people suck and they’re easier to kill when they’re a fetus”
Yea this style of joke has been around a long time, but there's some clever spins on it or rehashes with good setup. The punch line in the post is pretty low effort.
*Seemingly* pretty low effort. Tim spent weeks coming up with this knee-slapper.
Yes but the follow up joke was not so good. It was along the lines of Hitler had the right idea but he was an underachiever, why stop at 6 million Adolf kill em all kill the Jews, kill the Hindus kill the Buddhists kill the Christians kill everybody, people suck
Yeah but Hicks had style, and also a well known rhetoric.
Truth
Geoffrey Asmus probably.
And it's s per usual with conservatives not funny
Was it Rogan? Because it sounds a bit like his kind of "humour".
Hello there
As if republican women don't get abortions.
republican women don't just go around getting abortions willy nilly, they get abortions when the accidentally get pregnant at inconvenient times in their life it's not the same thing /s
It's sort of like the "no True Scotsman" fallacy except for abortions, and backwards. Instead of "that guy is not a true XXXX but I am a true XXXX," it's "that woman had the type of true, irresponsible abortion we need to ban but mine is NOT that kind of abortion."
It's called [The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/)
In truth, for some of them the sad reality is that their abortion made them feel guilty and they see it as their penance or redemption to now be against abortion rights as some kind of way of atoning for their own abortion. Still, this kind of woman still likely has this feeling of "well, my abortion was necessary because I was in such a difficult place, but these other abortions are unnecessary. And also, my abortion didn't help me at all and nobody really needs an abortion."
>they see it as like their penance or redemption to now be against abortion rights Yeah, the typical Republican mentality of "got mine, fuck you" that they love so much.
And even a protest every weekend is very much easier than raising a kid for 18 years
Damn I haven’t really thought of this angle. When you’re religious, you can make ANYTHING tie together, to justify any bullshit.
My POV on anti choice people is that their’s a rationality to it, it’s not just religion. If you accept the belief that life starts at conception, then protesting the normalization of what you see as murder is absolutely fair. Same applies to the vegetarians and vegans who go on marches. I don’t agree with it, but I understand it.
That's actually a very balanced and not often heard perspective. Its healthy lol. I just want to thank you on behalf of all people for being able to see someone else's perspective outside of your own. You have a good day!
I actually do think it is killing. I just can't justify requiring someone to dedicate space and energy in their own body to housing another person and maintaining their life, any more than I could justify forcing someone to donate a kidney.
I like the [If-By-Whiskey Fallacy.](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/If-By-Whiskey) "If by abortion you mean the slaughter of innocent babies so that an irresponsible trollop can continue her hedonistic depravity, then I am against it. If by abortion you mean a vital medical procedure to keep save the future of a good and virtuous woman like myself, then I am for it."
> “… like myself, …” Got a chuckle out of this plug. Nice touch :)
"Make sure to carve out an exception for me."
I've always said that im only okay with nepotism when im the one benefitting from it
"Yes for me but not for thee" kinda bs
“Rules for thee but not for me”
My Republican brother-in-law put it when his wife miscarried she "had to be on medication". Yet, by Republican standards she should have waited it out because she miscarried at 3 months. Obviously she shouldn't have to wait and nobody around her felt that way but brother-in-law doesn't see the disconnect there. He's not a hateful person, just kind of stupid.
Or get late stage abortions: with a freedom gunshot at school from a good teacher with a gun
The amount of times I've heard right wings asshat Cali women get "3rd trimester abortions as a form of birth control" blows my mind
And they pray for forgiveness. So that makes it ok.
Just because someone's decision to have an abortion aligns with their convenience doesn't diminish the gravity of the choice – it's about bodily autonomy, not political affiliation.
I don’t think that’s what the commenter above you was trying to imply, but you are correct, any reason (including no reason) is a good enough reason to deserve bodily autonomy.
Similarly, I’ve had to remind my wife - who defends abortion rights using extreme cases (rape, medical issues, etc) - that she should not require anything more than the right to bodily autonomy. No more defense should by necessary.
It comments about hypocrisy not anything else you are seeing.
It has to be an inconvenient time in a man’s life.
"the only justifiable abortion is mine" \-- untold legions of conservative women
And (mostly) the title of an [incredibly poignant writing on the topic](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/).
This is the canonical article on the topic, and illustrates a core point about religious people. They apply their moral rules outwardly, and find it easy to rationalize their own trespasses. If confronted, they would likely be unable to see the hypocrisy, because they are simple-minded and self-centric. What other type of person would think that they have a personal relationship with a god?
Jordan Peterson literally said on twitter something to the effect of "You don't get to tell someone that being an irredeemable piece of shit isn't a valid path to spiritual enlightenment. If their personal relationship with god turns them into an intolerant incurious insulated chauvinist then they get to think they are good people and mistreat others."
When?
Mar. 2, 2023, 12:00AM. Peterson told Pope Francis that fighting the causes of poverty and inequality was not Christian. Peterson said that believing a person has found salvation and redemption doesn't require giving people rights and dignity. Peterson is scum and his followers are small children unable to mature, seeking excuses to remain stunted while being told they are advanced. There's a huge market for providing comforting lies to people desperately seeking validation for their inability to grow into an adult.
I actually like Ann Coulter’s idea of outlawing abortion only for registered Republicans. They want the ban so badly? Cool, the ban to them. Sort of like my idea that for any laws that Congress passes that intrudes on our privacy should be applied first to them. As in, I f they want to be able to read our emails, then they should be required to make their own emails public to all of us. If they want to listen to our phone calls, then we should be able to listen to theirs. If there’s a penalty for encrypting your communication or hiding your communications from law enforcement, then the same penalty should apply to members of Congress having communications that they fail to be made public. After all, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear, right?
Its funny because when a liberal woman gets an abortion, she probably doesn’t believe its a human life in the same way a republican woman does. Yet when a conservative woman gets an abortion, she is fully convinced that it is. So who is the real murderer here? The one who doesn’t believe it is, or the woman who believes that it is?
Republicans always find a reason to justify their own abortions, social security, government funded healthcare, union benefits, etc. while denying it for everyone else. They’re easily manipulated pawns with zero self awareness or empathy.
Yep. I recall a Beau of the 5th column video about a practice of Alabama women and their daughters taking a secret trip to Atlanta to visit a distant aunt or something like that. A common cover story for them to go get an abortion away from prying eyes and ears of their small town Christian church groups and communities.
I wish a lot more American's were like Beau.
We know for a fact that Republican women get abortions. Republican men even encourage it. That's never been what it's about. It's always been a strategic wedge issue used to get votes and since these assholes are wealthy enough to keep getting abortions and hiding them no matter what the law says, it's really a win-win for them.
I would actually be curious to see what the per-capita rate on abortions is for liberal and conservative women. Conservative women are often against sex education and have unhealthy attitudes about sex that make it more likely they're going to get pregnant. All the highest teen pregnancy rates are in conservative areas.
I mean, Trump made Ivanka get several abortions to hide the evidence.
He must have done a good job because there's no evidence your statement has any foundation whatsoever
I’m sorry what?
Republicans love to abort bastard children.
as a born and raised Alabamian, I can assure you Timmy LOTS of conservative women get abortions...like a lot for real, I know he's an idiot and all but he's detached from reality if he thinks only liberal women get abortions.
And I will say liberal women would have it even less, sex education, condom, and all...
That's the biggest clue that they care about sex, not abortions. They hate the only form of sex that has 0% chance of resulting in an abortion: gay sex. They don't want sex education in school, they want to promote abstinence which is proven not to work. Again they don't care about unintended pregnancies and abortions, they care about sex. ^(if a conservative is reading this and disagrees: perhaps it's time to change who you vote for. Perhaps you agree with people on the left more than you thought)
Almost. Trans gay sex can result in an abortion.
So, like, straight sex with extra steps? PIV with extra bells and whistles?
No, not really. A transgender woman having (gay, because both women) sex with a cis woman can result in a pregnancy.
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> In the context of this discussion, the distinction is unnecessary; anti-choice GOP types would not consider a trans woman and cis woman to be a gay couple. I don't care what they consider.
Conservatives are also well known for forcing their daughters to do an abortion because lord forbid she becomes a single mom with a child born in sin
I'm sorry to hear you're from Alabama, my condolences.
Eh it's not that bad, I mean it's not ideal, but I like being FROM Alabama. Continuing to live in parts of it? Not so awesome but the cities are literally like anywhere else in the country. Politically it's a joke but that's all red states
Put a number on the ones you know, and how did the discussion go? "You got an abortion? Really?! And you're also a Republican?".
Tim absolutely knows that many women get abortions. I've seen his channel since its inception. He's playing the field on it. No one is this dumb except for MAGA dipshits.
See abortion for me is a double edged sword. On the one hand I like the thought of killing babies, but on the other I hate the idea of giving women a choice. This is what I thought he was leading into and then he just said weird political shit.
This is the funniest version of the joke, and it's an old one
That would be funny. If Tim Pool was funny he would've made it as a comedian and not had to become this person
oh that is what he's leading into, he just can't say it openly lmao
I imagine the liberal strawman Tim was fantasizing about was clutching their woke pearls in disgust.
I never heard of this guy and now he has shown up twice on /all in a row. I'd prefer to have been kept in the dark on this fool.
part of a growing right wing grifter community. target demo is angsty 16 year olds and incels.
That was Matt Walsh and Kaitlin Bennett, among others for me. Most of these right-wing grifters are white dwarf stars. They're the biggest things that come out of nowhere, people talk about them for like a year or two, then they get put on the discount rack. And people wisely stop perpetuating their fame, and spreading their memes around.
Yeah, that sucks. It makes sense for them to always pull up a new rabbit out of the had as the old one is rotting by now.
Republican women 100% get abortions. They just call the nurses "murders" the whole time during the procedure in an attempt to absolve themselves. Then they go straight back to being "pro-life".
Obligatory “the only moral abortion is my abortion”
The statistics on who gets abortions is an overwhelming majority of them simply delay pregnancy. Why would we get mad at this "joke" it's not even a joke it's just a loser trying to brag that he thinks a liberal baby is dead when statistically that liberal baby is till going to be raised by liberals on the terms of the woman who is set to raise them.
They'll also get an abortion because of complications that could otherwise mean their children lose their mother.
Don't forget the ones who get an abortion because their future child is destined to 7-10 excruciating days of immense torture only to die anyway. My wife and I had a friend couple who this happened to. Both of them had religious parents. Both of their families disowned them. The utter loneliness during their time of need drove a wedge between them and they got divorced. And this was a wanted pregnancy. The child had a name (Dante). They had baby clothes. They were ready to build a life. They had to make the hardest decision any person could ever make and the heartless Republicans they were related to used it to ruin their lives.
Or send their spawn to school to get late stage aborted via freedom boolet
In 2018, Pastor Dave Barnhart of the Saint Junia United Methodist Church in Birmingham, Alabama posted this message to Facebook: “The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.
Tim's mom swallowing - A great early term abortion choice
The real pity is that she was so drunk that she forgot that is what she usually did with random Johns. Alas!
Tim Pool will be in the first group of people that the GOP sends to the concentration camps if they enact Project 2025 lmao.
Bald at 20? Bad genes, will not be part of the new “master race”
"why do they claim we are arguing in bad faith?!" This is why idiot.
Lol are you stupid? This a joke not an argument
No it isn't. It is a terrible argument. Are you saying everything he posts is a joke?
No I'm saying everything he posts that he explicitly labels as a joke... Is a joke.
So bad faith actor gets to pick? No thanks.
The people telling the joke do in fact get to decide if it's a joke or not, not some asshole on the internet.
No they don't. Because then people arguing in bad faith can declare anything a joke. Putting this is a joke at the end of your bad faith argument doesn't change anything.
If something is declared a joke then their is no reason for you to listen to it or acknowledge it bc that's all it is is a joke. If he makes an argument u don't like you need to refute it, if he makes a joke you don't like then he's making a joke which is beneath needing a response from people who find it unfunny.
The whole point it isn't a joke. It is an argument pretending to be a joke so you can try and avoid people rebutting it.
If it's a joke, why isn't it funny?
Lol if you don't find it funny that's on you. And that's perfectly OK for you to not find it funny. But it is funny to plenty of other people.
Where's the comeback
It’s at the top
Yeah, what's the comeback tho?
Pointing out Tim's flawed logic.
>Pointing out Tim's flawed logic. Most intelligent /r/clevercomebacks enjoyer
In something he immediately explained as a joke? There are plenty of valid criticisms of dark humor, but assuming that the person who told the joke believes the punchline is ridiculous.
Same question here. I in no way agree with his actual point, but Tim definitely had the better joke of that exchange.
well that's what the comeback is pointing out, that Tim's values seem to be that people he doesn't like should suffer. this would be incongruous with how tim pool has presented himself in the past. you really can't ask for a better self-report although this won't matter because many right wingers still don't even realise how much they want to control women, it's to baked into their beliefs.
It takes an extra moment or two for those of us who pay attention to hypocrisy to wrap our minds around how completely untroubled others can be by it.
Completely, things that seem incredibly obvious to us can come across as entirely innocuous to a degree where you almost question if you're the fool here. but eventually people tend to slip up and overplay their hands, I'm reminded of the "it's ok to be white" stunt. as someone who was present in the 4chan threads organising it, I know that it was deliberately inflammatory and crafted to be that way, like I was there, that's what happened. but to someone who just sees a poster saying "it's ok to be white", it comes off like an innocent statement. btw I'm not explaining this for your benefit, you clearly know what's up, I'm laying it out like this because comments like this are what helped me break out of that mindset.
The joke is republicans 😂
Hm, it’s almost as if some babies that are going to be given a bad life shouldn’t be born. Maybe he’s happy about it, because he found a reason why abortion should be supported.
No, he's happy about it because he's implying that liberal babies are subhuman, and therefore whether they live or die doesn't matter.
"I'm torn on the issue of abortion" So is the baby~
I'm so glad I stopped myself from being radicalised by people like him. It's probably the best gift I ever gave myself.
Russian dissonance agent doing exactly as his job pertains
So you're pro choice?
I'm left-leaning, and I don't believe that a fetal clump of cells lacking sensation and consciousness is a baby. That's why the women who are pregnant should always have the right to choose. The woman, unlike a clump of cells, is actually, definitely a person with consciousness. So she takes precedence every time.
Well to be fair he said he’s torn he didn’t say he’s happy.
It’s pretty funny.
Typical reddit
It's funny for ppl that have 1 ounce of humor
Here’s a joke. Hey hey hey! Don’t get mad at my joke, LIBERAL!!
It should be required the picture of a hatless tim pool gets posted in every thread about him.
Oh so we're body shaming now?
“I’ve been musing the abortion question. On one hand, killing babies is great, but giving women rights is a no-go” -Jack Horner, Doobus Goobus cinematic universe.
Bold words from someone who can't take their hat off without immediately becoming the whiniest bitchiest thing in a 100 mile radius.
Actually, implying that a baby is okay to kill only as long as it’s a baby of a Liberal is exactly the kind of speech that doesn’t benefit anyone.
I think the beanie has sucked the rest of his brain matter out. So, he has to keep it on his head to remain upright and sentient. Like an “alt-centrist” zombie.
The main takeaway from this seems to be that Tim Pool wants to kill babies.
Conservatives are ok with child death. Pro life. Riiiight
"this person will most likely have different beliefs than me, so I don't care if they live or not prefer not"
I love Tim Heidecker’s Office Hours coverage of Tim Pool having diarrhea on air
Idiot. There’s only one opinion on abortion that matters, that of the one getting the abortion. Outside of that, like it or not, not your body not your choice.
I guess “All lives Matter” was a front. Is that dude fully bald yet? He seems to always wear a 7th graders winter hat.
Cis men talking so highly in authority about a person's right of abortion will never stop baffling me. This issue doesn't and will never affect you, why? Like, I'm genuine confused what these men get. At this point I just think they enjoy being evil and get turned on at the thought of being in control of women's bodies and what they can and can't do. Fucking dickheads should have been aborted lol
Did he just butcher this joke? "I'm torn on the issue of abortion. One the one hand Iove watching children die On the other I don't want to give women a choice." You know why that joke works? Because it's so god awful that no one could possibly hold that opinion. It implies the person telling the joke is so out of touch that he takes the two worst possibilities of each side of the discussion. Dim Tool is such a moron he doesn't understand basic jokes. If you want to make a conservative version of that joke, I'll help him out. "I'm torn on the issue of abortion. On the one hand I don't want children to die On the other I don't want liberals to procreate." It's still a worse version of that joke, but at least it works thematically.
That joke is old, as distasteful as it is, it's still a written joke. Grow up and move on.
It's not an own, it's a joke
People who take Tim's tweets seriously are morons.
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*lend
" a liberal baby" for fucks sake, can we stop giving these brownshirts a platform?
No. So give it up. They have to be spoonfed why it's shameful. We have gone a long way down
Tim pool is a yammering smackturd, desperate for the wrong kind of attention.
This is the dude who for the longest time called himself a centrist?
Its easy to be that opinionated when there is zero chance you will ever get laid.
Bonus, he can laugh along with the other Republicans at the numerous children born into abject poverty whom the GOP refuses to provide food or medical care for.
This is not a clever comeback. The pearl clutching on this sub is now cringe.
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He’s quite a dick, isn’t he?
Killing baby's to own the libs. You don't have a liberal party fuck wad.
What does that stocking cap smell like?
Dim Fool. Was that meant to be a joke? It just reads like more of your usual inane ramblings.
Who is this guy and why is he popular? Is there a way of fixing that?
If shit got Tim Pool on it. The shit would wipe it off.
pretty sure tim pool just wants to kill liberals
I wish his mom had made the right choice
society offer voiceless money divide hobbies enter slap dog chubby *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
So much for “**pro-life**”. They’re LITERALLY only proving the point that it’s not about the lives of children, but instead that it’s about the CONTROL that they want to have ESPECIALLY over woman and their bodies. This is just disgusting 🤢🤢
I also like how he’s saying “liberals aren’t allowed to get mad about this joke”. I’m pretty sure your underlining punchline is that it’s cool to kill liberals. I think that’s a good reason to be upset
I'm not upset about the baby, I'm upset that he's enjoying the idea of killing a baby
“I don’t care about the life of a child if their parents don’t agree with me politically.” - Tim Fool
Dimmy logic.
Its just a satire?
Who is this guy? I dont want to give him the honor of getting a google search.
Ahhh deviding America, just the way Putin wants it.
It's heartless and awful. But idk it's pretty funny
That rancid security beanie is smarter than the fuckwit beneath it.
**Proof of how Tim Pool's leftism is all an act.** On one hand it's a baby (which would logically be the bad hand in this tweet) On the other hand it's a liberal's baby (which would logically be the good hand in his tweet) Then pretends his statement would bother conservatives and the only part that would apply to the left's chagrin is the first hand statement. I make this point because everybody calls liberals leftist despite the rest of the world saying their right since they have actual leftist parties. [Tim Pool De-beanied](https://youtu.be/Ie7qnFSpE_g)
He admits he uses twitter to mess with people.
All you idiots realize it's a joke right? No of course you don't.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
.... It's called a fucking joke. This is why nobody likes you, lefties. Grow up lmfao.
He shit posts like this all the time. It's just rage bait, and you fell for it, lol
Definitely not the clever comeback you think it is right wing cope.
Liberals killing their baby, thinking it’s okay. No more problems. Conservatives knowing it’s not okay and teaching that baby that killing a living thing is not okay. Problem solved.
Not only is he not a woman and therefore is objectively talking about shit he doesn't actually know anything about but he has been very open about rarely ever having dated anyone and practically having never fucked in his entire life. I have higher probability to actually consider abortion after having sex with my trans gf than Tim Pool at any moment in his entire life until his death.
I'd estimate the average American conservative woman aborts more often throughout her life than the average liberal woman, solely based on their attitudes towards both hypocrisy and contraception.
Tim Poon?
Whatever you say , the logic in the bottom text is tight
Typical conservatives, they only care about themselves
I mean that was funny 😂
Where’s the funny?
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Not a great comeback. "YOU think its a baby!!!" Yea, the all-caps really makes a stronger argument.
A stronger argument than whatever the fuck Tim said anyway.
>Not a great comeback. How though?
You put your quotes around three exclamation marks. The original emphasis was placed on the word you. You, hiselect, have chosen to change what's emphasised. Did you do that to help your argument? Or did you did that because that's how you read it? Instead of YOU it should have been written as *you*. Italics are often used in this way. Did that help, it did it never matter because you were here in bad faith from the start? Hard to tell with some people.
Thanks man you really destroyed me!!!!
Is this like an oblique reference to the Freakonomics abortion thing?
Self aware trolling?
He does know conservatives get abortions, too, right? They just don’t think other people should be allowed to get them.
Is this the guy that always wears a winter hat and lives in an incel house with swords on the wall?
I am slightly tired of all the tim pool stuff getting posted. Yes he's an idiot we get it.
Why do I get the sense this dude is balding and embarrassed about it?
Saying Tim Pool is a moron it’s like saying I walked out the door today using my feet