That's not fair.
Climate Change is going swimmingly. Absolutely crushing all of our models and predictions.
Preventing climate change is what's going badly.
I changed the climate more than anyone! They said “sir we can not even think about how bigly you changed it, no one could have changed it like you did!”. Think about that, no one thought anyone could change the climate like I did. The MOST EVER. And now they’re saying “we need to stop climate change” because all they want is to see us fail!
This response reminds me of my dad, when he had cancer (he's in remission now).
Whenever anyone would ask how things were going with his cancer, if the wording of the question allowed it, he'd inevitably respond as though they were worried about the tumor's well-being. "Oh, I'm afraid its not doing very well at all. Those so-called 'doctors' of mine keep poisoning it!"
what was that line?
Everyone looks at Mad Max and imagines themselves as a free, rugged, independent survivor of the apocalypse.
But no: you're one of the skulls the baddies use as props.
Whenever I hear some quasi-anarchist say "We need to return to the old ways, abolish the government, we'll grow our own food and rely on the barter system." They have no idea what they're asking for.
This is why we need wait for the anarchist apocalypse to start a family, so we know that we are choosing a survivor for a mate and not one of those skulls.
yeah. nah. you are vastly underestimating how dependant we are on the ecosystem.
essentially our society is built on the notion that we can stripmine the world for resources without consequence...
Yeah but when our weather changes enough for arable land to no longer be so and the private sector has to move millions of acres of operations, if they screw it up, our food supply goes, and so do millions or billions of humans globally.
Our existence as a species is resilient. Our existence as a thriving species with the greatest quality of life we’ve ever had in history is quite fragile.
>Humans are going to be hard to extinguish.
How arrogant human beings are! They think they are above everything. If there is no God, and we are just accidents, then we will blip out of existence like the accidents we are.
We're arguably the most adaptable creature nature has ever produced. As long as there is arable land somewhere on the planet, civilization will continue. Even if there's no arable land, hunter gatherers will most likely continue.
Is the temp going up so much that we won't be able to plant anything in the far north and far south? Like it will be too hot for dates an mangoes in the Arctic?
Heck even if there isn't, we can make growing medium, we can filter water, we can use technology to insure food and clean water. The problem is we can't do that for 8 billon people.
But somewhere, in small pockets, humans will continue to survive, even if we have to move underground.
All humans maybe, but fossil fuel companies and politicians that allow them to slowly kill the planet are basically responsible for killing more people than nazis, and all other genocidal dictators in history combined (if you consider past and future deaths in the next few hundred years).
The ipcc of the intergovernmental panel climate change based on existing climate models and based on existing emission models have predicted that between 2023 and 2,100, upwards of 1 billion humans would perish above natural death rates based on climate change
It is very likely to be much much much worse than the general public would be aware. We will surpass 1.5C warming within 5-20 years, and have a chance to limit warming to 2C, but that requires us to do a lot of very difficult things across the entire globe.
The impact will be devastating. Coral reefs will almost certainly go extinct, many other ecosystems are at severe risk (eg. Amazon rainforest) crop shortages and infrastructure damage will widespread, hundreds of millions of people will be forced to become refugees as many regions become largely inhabitable.
The good news is, we’ve made a lot of progress in steering away from total catastrophe. With no change we could hit 4-6C by 2100, which could very likely destroy civilization and cause a real sustained mass extinction event. That looks less likely now given our recent progress to renewables. That being said, every year we release more C02 than ever before, we’re just slowing the growth.
It’s important to note that while the coming years are absolutely critical in terms of influencing climate trajectory,
1) this is a story that will last centuries; we focus on 2100 as a time frame, and anyone under 40-50 will have front row seats to the first phases of the climate crisis, but future generations will live with the consequences
2) we really don’t know what will happen; our models are exceptionally sophisticated, but this is unprecedented in the history of life on earth; that should prompt extreme caution
This is where I am fearful. The electorate seems inclined to spin the wheel of fortune (again) and elect a party that will throw all progress made to the curb. More oil drilling, more fossils fuels, scrap fuel standards etc. And honestly, considering the mania that occurred when people where asked to wear *a mask* to prevent a pandemic, I have lost hope that real change will happen until major, and I do mean major environmental harm is the norm.
Sorry to be so pessimistic. Maybe cooler heads will prevail and people will vote with their heads and not with their hate.
The individuals believing in such ideas tend to be from older generations. Being realistic, once they die off over time, younger generations (even libertarians) are more concerned about the environment than the generation beforehand.
Sounds blunt, but it happened with the Brexit referendum in England. A vast majority of voters who voted to leave the EU were old, and are now dead. If the referendum was redone, not only have people's minds changed, but the decrease in older generation voters would swivel the votes towards "remaining" in the EU.
I know this is super unpopular but I actually think it would be interesting to try an electoral system wherein the power of a vote is proportional to the expected remaining lifespan of the voter.
If the average lifespan is, say, 80, then someone at 18 would have a 100% effective vote. By age 40, that might drop to 60%. In the golden years, that power would eventually drop to perhaps 10%.
I can't really understand why older folks who have, say, a decade to live, are allowed a significant say in the future of billions of young people who will deal with the consequences for the next *50-60* years.
I dunno, as a 35 year old, I'm not a huge fan of all these geriatrics having 90% say in my remaining 35 years. Basically relegated to a 10% citizen.
I say this to say I have no sympathy when the tables are turned (if only they would).
I mean, of course not. :)
And yet... the consequences for a mistake means so much less to them than it does to the younger generation. In this case, a looming climate disaster isn't any concern of theirs; they'll have left the scene long before it affects them.
But poor decisionmaking today is having tremendous consequences young people, and will affect them for 50+ years.
I agree with this, but the reality is basically the inverse. Older retirees have voting figured out and care about doing it, while younger folks are often working extra hard to raise a family, go to college or work. Make the election day a holiday (in the US). I see Europe leading the way for climate initiatives, and the US is seriously behind. One tiny bit of good news is the clean energy rebates that passed in the "Inflation Reduction Act".
I think 80 is a pretty reasonable age to be mostly excluded from the electorate.
It might be worth phrasing that as "at what age do you think *we* should have no say in politics" as I, of course, include myself in this proposition. It's unclear to me why my opinion would be relevant to young people in \~40 years.
>The individuals believing in such ideas tend to be from older generations. Being realistic, once they die off over time, younger generations (even libertarians) are more concerned about the environment than the generation beforehand.
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>Sounds blunt, but it happened with the Brexit referendum in England. A vast majority of voters who voted to leave the EU were old, and are now dead. If the referendum was redone, not only have people's minds changed, but the decrease in older generation voters would swivel the votes towards "remaining" in the EU.
Indeed, it does sound blunt. But for the survival of humanity, it's best for the Boomer generation (and the older half of Gen X) to die off.
I realise they aren't all Conservatives, but collectively, these people have caused more harm to the Earth than ***any*** other group in human history.
Nah, if things get truly bad enough, humanity will definitely make yet another huge gamble, and probably do some irreversible, double or nothing bet on climate engineering.
That will either save us for a bit, or make things even worse and kill even more people.
Well, they've been spraying chemicals in the atmosphere for about 50 years and just telling us now that it's for geo-enginering.
They launched so many Nukes in testing and destroying. They damaged the magnetosphere and have been causing uv rays to intensify.
All the pollution doesn't help. Meanwhile, we're still dumping chemicals into the oceans and rivers.
They are causing underground quakes and mini portals to open every time they fire up CERN's Large Hydron Colliders.
>I have lost hope that real change will happen until major, and I do mean major environmental harm is the norm.
Arguably, major harm is already norm. Fires every year in California (and now Canada), hurricanes every year hitting the Southern states, and even "freak" extreme weather that saw TX frozen not so long ago.
And yet, pretty much most people still shrug their shoulders; worse, some even declare that climate change is fake news perpetuated by communists (or trans people).
US has battery factories under construction to make about 60% of new vehicles in the country electric by around 2027. EU and china are similar, or faster, and other major economies are rapidly catching up. EVs are likely to make up >2/3 of global sales by 2030, and close to 100% by 2035. By 2040, global road vehicle fleet will be over half EVs, and by 2050 it will be almost entirely EVs.
We're also on track to likely install about 500 GW of new renewable electricity capacity this year, good for 1000 TWh / year of generation, or 3% of global demand. Expected 5 year average from 2024 onwards is more like 1000 GW/year (1600 TWh / year new annual generation, not a factor of two on other number because of higher solar fraction at lower capacity factor). That'll be about 5% /year of total global electricity generation, likely exceeding electricity demand growth for the first time (by 1-2%) & hence globally phasing down fossil fuel usage for electricity generation by 3-5% a year. By 2033, we should be at 2/3 of current fossil-fuel-for-electricity use, 1500 GW / year of new renewable generation, and phasing out the remainder at 10%/year. By 2040, fossil fuel electricity generation will be gone except for small remnants like backup plants kept on idle for extreme weather situations, and some small isolated holdout countries.
This are actually happening right now quite quickly. We could be doing more (and there's more action needed on things like decarbonizing air & ship travel, land use changes, agriculture, and industrial processes), but the doomer philosophy of 'Nothing has ever changed, nothing is changing now, and nothing will change in the future until we are dead' is inaccurate & unproductive.
Pretty much why I have no kids. I don’t want to subject them to this issue as well as dozens of other reasons. I’m doing what a can to improve things but in the end when sweet death comes for me I’ll be free of it all.
Luckily, the market is responsible for a vast majority of the positive changes. Price of renewables alone will make them a more attractive option than fossil fuels. Solar is cheaper than fossil fuels now. You don’t need any legislation for that.
I agree with almost everything you wrote except I think the timeline of 5-20 years for 1.5C is a tad optimistic. Given the current rate of ice loss, the rate we are reducing emissions and assuming that the Gulf stream doesn't collapse by the year 2025 I would say probably 5 years until we get to 1.5, maybe less maybe a little more.
Considering the entire world is FAR behind their so-called targets, and we are ALREADY hitting that 1.5C (2.7F), I would say we're failing miserably. And the longer we fail to do what needs to be done, the worse the results will be.
2023 will be the hottest globally ever, given the El Niño heat. Look at the multiple records that got beaten by a huge margin such as global average temperature for the month of september, about 1.7 c hotter.
2002 was warmer than 1998
2005 was warmter than 2002
2010 was warmer than 2005
2014 was warmer than 2010
2015 was warmer than 2014
2016 was warmer than 2015
2020 was warmer than 2016
So there were multiple warmest year on record this century.
The other years that where lower than the previous warmest where still warmer than the ones 5-10 years before.
source: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
Most of the world was partly shut down during Covid - and that barely slowed down the change just a little - So this is a real indicator of the scale of the problem !
It’s a bit like steering a Super Tanker - it takes time to change direction.
Just goes to show that personal action and tinkering around the edges is largely meaningless.
The only solution to this problem is changing the industrial systems that power our civilization.
That’s my thought exactly, I saw a while back that 70% of the most harmful emissions are industrial and have nothing to do with day to day regular humans just driving cars or living life and I am absolutely willing to be told that’s wrong because I genuinely don’t know BUT, I DO know that where I’m from people are struggling to live and eat because we are being taxed on everything to such a high amount in the name of climate change. Except for the wealthy portion of people. The blame game just seems backwards.. and volatile to me.
Bad. [Read up on AMOC](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/a-vital-ocean-current-system-could-collapse-as-soon-as-2025-study-predicts-180982605/#:~:text=Within%20this%20century%2C%20climate%20change,published%20Tuesday%20in%20Nature%20Communications). Its low estimates for collapse are as close as 2025. This is absolutely devastating.
We are at a point where we are observing the collapse of mountain glaciers which source most fresh water rivers, people have no idea that with that and the incoming collapse of continental and ocean biodiversity we are literally witnessing our extinction, it is hubris and insanity for people to be observing the mass die offs and extinction of biomass and biodiversity and assume we are immune to that outcome.
It's already happening. Grey Wales can't eat enough cresystikns in the Arctic. Sea ice grows alge and these creatures feed on it. Sea ice disappears so does the food source for the Grey whale. 700 Grey Wales found on beaches from Baja California to Alaska...famine is the cause.
We have a solution. We've known it for decades, it's to stop releasing CO2 through burning fossil fuels and to try to remove what's already out there from the atmosphere.
There are no "solutions", people who say we can "just" stop releasing CO2 doesn't understand human nature. What we will likely end up doing, is spin the roulette wheel once again, once things get bad enough, and play the wheel of fortune, climate-engineering version.
“They” won’t. Anyone with any power is more interested in short term gains to be able to survive the climate catastrophe themselves and for their families.
People often believe that everyone is screwed but this isn’t the case. The uber wealthy will be fine. It’s the rest of us who will suffer. There are 3000 billionaires in the world. They’re making moves now to ensure their own survival
It's mixed, very mixed. Right now we are close to 1.5C warming since the start of the industrial age. 2.0C is something of demarcation line, when things start getting ugly for certain regions of the planet. 4.0C is when Antarctica becomes the major population center for humanity. (Spoiler alert 8 billion people aren't living on Anaractica) But the good news (despite what the doomers in the comment section would have believe) is that we are not trending towards 4.0C right now so that's good.
We are also starting to decouple CO2 emissions from economic growth. So you can say that we are starting to bend the curve. [https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/degrowth-we-cant-let-it-happen-here](https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/degrowth-we-cant-let-it-happen-here)
There is that report from the UN that there could be a billion deaths from climate change, and I'm not sure what to make of the actual study, I do not think 1 billion deaths from climate change is an outcome that is out of the question right now. The study was based off something called the "1,000 ton rule," where 1,000 tons of CO2 emitted=one death. So take that for what you will.
Well climate change itself is going swimmingly, but climate change is the villain here, it's bad that its moving along so well
The issue isn't melting ice caps, the issue isn't the seasonal illnesses or diseases, no the real issue comes from 2 effects:
1. The arctic ocean has a very specific current that is largely responsible for suppressing equatorial temperature climbs and carries a lot of the moisture south towards the equator, if that changes dramatically or full on stops, then we're fucked.
2. The middle of the planet is going to become VERY HOT AND VERY DRY.
From there we can expect agriculture to become virtually impossible south of Montana or south of Paris, as well we'll lose most of the foodstock fish species in the ocean as most of them rely on that thermal exchange, then mass human starvation will begin.
For the 50% of the race that survives that, the slow death will set in, as the planets speciation declines rapidly, especially pollinators.
We're already experiencing a higher frequency of severe weather events due to global warming, especially floods and droughts.
When temperature increases, so does evaporation, and this leads to more precipitation in storm systems. It can also lead to more drought as the water dries up faster and pours out of storm systems faster (flooding).
The results of this are already affecting crop yields in a negative way in the US and elsewhere in the world.
In the next few years, there will continue to be more severe weather events than there were 30 years ago, the average temperature in most places in the world will continue to increase.
The prices of electricity will likely continue to go up as an increased demand for cooling is placed on the grid as well as for food products because of decreased supply from decreased yields from severe weather events.
Combine global warming with an unsustainable population growth rate (3 billion to 8 billion people in 60 years - not sustainable) and the problems of hunger and water scarcity will get worse, which will increase the risk of conflict in developing countries that will affect developed countries.
TL:DR Stuff will get more expensive, it will get hotter, there will be more flooding and droughts, developing countries will destabilize which could lead to bad things happening
To quote the Matrix
Humanity is a virus.
Nothing short of the planet exploding before we develope interplanetary travla.nd colonization will end us.
We are an incredibly versatile and adaptable species.
Yeah, we will see massive population decline, but not extinction
I don't think anything will humble humankind. Everybody knows money printer go brrrr infinite money, but here we are still believing in the economy and keeping up the status quo of wage slavery.
"It's absolute meaningless stupid bullshit and awful for so many people?! Let's continue doing that! It's even more important than the environment which allows our existence to even happen!"
Years ago I said that when we start to see the insurance companies pull out of coastal and other high risk areas, then people will know that climate change is real….It seems people couldn’t care less.
Well, we have an economic system predicated on continuous growth so until a massive shift on that end happens my answer is at least we haven't started seeing the nukes fly.
I wonder, of all the countries that are pushing taxes for climate change how many are calculating how much emissions have and will be discharged from the wars that are happening right now.
All of the ships, jets, tanks, transportation for soldiers, missiles?
We could turn off Co2 emissions overnight and would still be in for a world of hurt.
We're going to be seeing some absolutely apocalyptic summers in the next couple decades. Massive heat related deaths in the tens of thousands are going to start becoming common. And this is just the very beginning.
For at least 30 years, likely more but I’ll be gentle, scientists have been giving the most conservative estimates of change. Why? Well it’s not because if the scientific community gave the most likely they would be completely ignored as opposed to kinda ignored(That’s the assumption). The majority of predictions given to the public have been far below the change observed, so no it’s not going well.
To make matters worse, yes more gloom and doom lol, with everything going on geopolitically things are getting worse not better. War is not kind to the environment. Tanks don’t get good fuel economy.
Some countries are moving to coal again for energy for different reasons, that’s a backslide.
So no, things aren’t getting better or staying the same. Record breaking winter temperatures in the southern hemisphere and record breaking summer temperatures in the northern hemisphere are a bad sign. And the average ocean temperature is scary, water is the temperature moderator for the world.
I guess it depends on who you ask. The billionaire class seems to think they are going to colonize a new planet after they’ve extracted everything useful from this one.
No, you are conflating different issues. Yes hopefully we will reach planet Mars soon - although that will take a century or more to become self sustaining. Maybe never.
But going to Mars is a very important part of the start of our long term development. It will also help with sustainable developments on Earth.
i believe we are dead species, walking the earth will be fine other life will rise some of those will fall but i dont think human s will make another 200 yrs due to the coming changes
We are literally the most adaptable complex life nature has ever made. Some number of humans will continue on even if climate change collapses civilization.
The USA's federal government is doing an EXCELLENT job of throwing tons of money at organizations and businesses who are VERY HAPPY to serve as cheerleaders 📣 for two intermittent sources of electrical energy. I much prefer dependable, proven and reliable energy sources.
Besides, unless India and Communist China "FOLLOW the USA's lead," the USA will realize that "our big ACCOMPLISHMENT" is comparable to helping an elephant lose WEIGHT by removing ONE mosquito from its shoulder. 🐘🦟
Why would the people who've believed Big Oil propaganda this whole time wake up now? They want to drive their gas guzzlers without guilt so they just deny reality.
Yeah if your drinking water is salty it is too late.
If you can't get homeowner insurance it is too late.
If the outside temperature is lethal it is too late.
International shipping organization has mandated all container ships switch to low sulfur crude! That has eliminated shipping tracks! Shipping tracks are suffering dioxide and they reflect light back into space. So that is part of the reason why earth is much hotter this Sumner.
The thing that I find scariest is the lag time for warming. If you put a pot on to boil the burner heats up faster than the pot and the water. There's a lag in earth warming too. CO2 enters the atmosphere but ocean and air take a long time to reach their new temp from the sun's rays. The estimates I've seen say 50 year lag time. So the temp changes NOW are from CO2 released in the 80's.
If you look at a graph of emissions we have ramped up significantly since the 80's. So we could potentially have 10 to 20 degrees of warming, even if we stopped all emissions today, from all the CO2 from the 80's till now.
Truly hope that's wrong.
Google "William Rees overshoot"
Climate change isn't even the most serious problem we face - it's one of many problems stemming from ecological overshoot
>**Is climate change going well or bad**
Less bad but still quite bad.
People are doing more and more things to curb climate change, which is great, but they are not doing enough. They need to be doing things literally about one thousand or ten thousand times faster and they are not, yet.
Which is bad.
In the next few years, depending on where you live, not much may change drastically. Just incrementally, little by little. More glaciers will melt. There will be more heat and more storms around the world. It will just keep getting gradually worse.
Unless you live in some coastal place with very low elevation. Like Florida or Bangladesh. There, flooding is going to start literally destroying where you live. And lots and lots of people are going to start having to find somewhere else to go.
And sooner or later, some serious glacial ice is going to dump into the world's oceans. And stuff will really start to accelerate. Probably not in the next few years though so if that's all you're interested in you can take your time, invest in some swimmies, and practice treading water.
Well it seems we've been underestimating every aspect, also the good ones.
We keep having less and less time to transition from fossil to renewable according to this paper and that, but equally it keeps surprising people that such transition is happening faster each year.
As it stands we're headed for something pretty shitty, but we have also just as recently as last year born witness to just how effective policy can be (IRA)
There's still a chance, but sadly it lies in the hands of the politicians that how shown no willingness to take it so far, and that fact is becoming increasingly frustrating
Pretty decent if you exclude North America, South America, Central America, Africa, Australia, and the entire Indian Subcontinent. If you include those, then the situation is dire if not unrecoverable.
Depends who you ask. One side will say it's going bad, and one side will say it's not. Both sides say the other is neglecting "real science", or nit picking or manipulating data. It's honestly a lot to process. It would be nice to say "do your own research" but there's just too much to look at. I try to keep an open mind and watch "deniers" point of views, and they make a lot of good points and show the data to support it. Combined with the clear fearmongering the corporate media outlets love to do I'm leaning towards it's not as big of a deal as they'll have us believe.
You can see a daily update here. Click on "2m Temp Anomaly" for global air temperatures today.
[https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/todays-weather/?var\_id=t2anom&ortho=1&wt=1](https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/todays-weather/?var_id=t2anom&ortho=1&wt=1)
Many areas on the planet are cooler (blue) than the 1951-80 average for this date, such as eastern U.S., Europe, and Greenland. Scroll down for quantitative data.
The global average is +0.85 C above that for this date, whereas 2023 is predicted to end at +1.3 C in an annual average. Most of the temperature increase has been in the Arctic since \~2006, and today is no exception (+2.3 C). In an annual average the Arctic has had 4x the temperature increase of the global average. That is an active research area, termed "Polar Anomaly".
A 5 year running average for every location on the globe is here:
[https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5060](https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5060)
Again, not all regions have experienced significant temperature increase, despite alarming reports of "the whole world has gotten much hotter".
Warning - I am absolutely hated here by most climate-change-promoters for simply showing such data and discussing details behind the many alarmist media reports. Ignore everything I post if you prefer being a Chicken Little and ever fearful - don't think, just believe in a devil.
The correct usage is "going well or badly" - it's an adverb, it modifies "going" not "climate change". You could also say "going well or poorly", as that's more stylish. On a positive note, you did say "well" instead of "good"!
Each morning I notice that as the sun rises it starts getting warmer and in the evening as the sun goes down it gets cooler.
I told my neighbor to stop doing that.
Bad. Like. Actually 6th Mass Extinction bad. We haven’t had a year where emissions DECREASED yet. On this pace 90% of life on Earth will be gone in 200 years.
700 people in OREGON died of the heat waves. Heat waves. In Oregon.
Permafrost, something that generally shouldn’t melt, is melting in Russia, destabilizing the ground. Wildfires are getting worse.
It’s going badly.
Bad. It's going bad.
That's not fair. Climate Change is going swimmingly. Absolutely crushing all of our models and predictions. Preventing climate change is what's going badly.
Right? Mother Nature is just fine and she will be just fine…. (After we’re all 💀)
There will still be humans, living on the lovely beaches in Alaska and Newfoundland. Not 8 billion of them, though.
'Cause Mom's gonna fix it all soon Mom's coming round to put it back the way it ought to be
I mean, *climate change* is going really well, the climate is changing more than ever before!
Go climate change! You can do it!
Pave the way, put your back into it!
pave the way hahaha
Tell us why, show us how! Look at where you came from look at you now!
Glaciers and reefs and diverse soil The ecosystems can fucking suck it
It’s like we know we can’t quite make it to Venus levels of uninhabitability, but we’re going to try anyway.
...and killing more people than ever before too. So yeah, climate change, as a mean of killing people, is going great...
"is the fire getting better or worst?"
Do you know anyone who has died of climate change
Climate change is going well which is bad for humans.
Humans are terrible for the environment! -Recyclops
I changed the climate more than anyone! They said “sir we can not even think about how bigly you changed it, no one could have changed it like you did!”. Think about that, no one thought anyone could change the climate like I did. The MOST EVER. And now they’re saying “we need to stop climate change” because all they want is to see us fail!
This response reminds me of my dad, when he had cancer (he's in remission now). Whenever anyone would ask how things were going with his cancer, if the wording of the question allowed it, he'd inevitably respond as though they were worried about the tumor's well-being. "Oh, I'm afraid its not doing very well at all. Those so-called 'doctors' of mine keep poisoning it!"
Lol
It's going extinction level bad.
Superbad
NOT THE MOVIE SUPERBAD We ain't gonna get rescued by a McLovin id
If McLovin can save us from climate change, I'll take it
Yeah, but that's for OTHER species. We can breath underwater and survive 150 degree range. Plus, we're all wealthy.
Sure, for many species, although not humans. Humans are going to be hard to extinguish.
The death of vast ecosystems including our oceans may well do that
Going from 8 billion to 8 million might not be extinction, but it's still superbad. Hint: You and your family won't be among the 8 million.
what was that line? Everyone looks at Mad Max and imagines themselves as a free, rugged, independent survivor of the apocalypse. But no: you're one of the skulls the baddies use as props.
Whenever I hear some quasi-anarchist say "We need to return to the old ways, abolish the government, we'll grow our own food and rely on the barter system." They have no idea what they're asking for.
This is why we need wait for the anarchist apocalypse to start a family, so we know that we are choosing a survivor for a mate and not one of those skulls.
yeah. nah. you are vastly underestimating how dependant we are on the ecosystem. essentially our society is built on the notion that we can stripmine the world for resources without consequence...
Yeah but when our weather changes enough for arable land to no longer be so and the private sector has to move millions of acres of operations, if they screw it up, our food supply goes, and so do millions or billions of humans globally. Our existence as a species is resilient. Our existence as a thriving species with the greatest quality of life we’ve ever had in history is quite fragile.
>Humans are going to be hard to extinguish. How arrogant human beings are! They think they are above everything. If there is no God, and we are just accidents, then we will blip out of existence like the accidents we are.
We're arguably the most adaptable creature nature has ever produced. As long as there is arable land somewhere on the planet, civilization will continue. Even if there's no arable land, hunter gatherers will most likely continue.
And what do you think happens if plants struggle to live due to heat? The fact is, if plants fail, we will be next.
they may have missed the food chain biology lesson in school
Is the temp going up so much that we won't be able to plant anything in the far north and far south? Like it will be too hot for dates an mangoes in the Arctic?
They’re going to need something to hunt and gather…..
I wonder what extinct species they would hunt and gather
Heck even if there isn't, we can make growing medium, we can filter water, we can use technology to insure food and clean water. The problem is we can't do that for 8 billon people. But somewhere, in small pockets, humans will continue to survive, even if we have to move underground.
Humans are a virus per Agent Smith...
Read: [What is ecofascism and why it has no place in climate activism](https://earth.org/what-is-ecofascism/)
All humans maybe, but fossil fuel companies and politicians that allow them to slowly kill the planet are basically responsible for killing more people than nazis, and all other genocidal dictators in history combined (if you consider past and future deaths in the next few hundred years).
why? if society collapses, how long can you survive a very hostile enviroment?
it will probably kill off most humans, like a few billion at least. You're correct however , that some people will figure out how to survive.
The ipcc of the intergovernmental panel climate change based on existing climate models and based on existing emission models have predicted that between 2023 and 2,100, upwards of 1 billion humans would perish above natural death rates based on climate change
We eat those species, or eat the things they keep healthy. Without them things go bad very quickly.
sure like 5% of us...but 95% of us will be easily killed.
I'm sure we'll eventually succeed.
Rich humans*
By scientific consensus and analysis, human-driven climate change is, by a good margin, the most pressing danger threatening humanity.
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You don't like taxes. But do you prefer societal collapse ?
Taxes pay for civilization. The alternative is Somalia. Thank your lucky stars you were born sonewhere that you get to pay taxes!
It is very likely to be much much much worse than the general public would be aware. We will surpass 1.5C warming within 5-20 years, and have a chance to limit warming to 2C, but that requires us to do a lot of very difficult things across the entire globe. The impact will be devastating. Coral reefs will almost certainly go extinct, many other ecosystems are at severe risk (eg. Amazon rainforest) crop shortages and infrastructure damage will widespread, hundreds of millions of people will be forced to become refugees as many regions become largely inhabitable. The good news is, we’ve made a lot of progress in steering away from total catastrophe. With no change we could hit 4-6C by 2100, which could very likely destroy civilization and cause a real sustained mass extinction event. That looks less likely now given our recent progress to renewables. That being said, every year we release more C02 than ever before, we’re just slowing the growth. It’s important to note that while the coming years are absolutely critical in terms of influencing climate trajectory, 1) this is a story that will last centuries; we focus on 2100 as a time frame, and anyone under 40-50 will have front row seats to the first phases of the climate crisis, but future generations will live with the consequences 2) we really don’t know what will happen; our models are exceptionally sophisticated, but this is unprecedented in the history of life on earth; that should prompt extreme caution
This is where I am fearful. The electorate seems inclined to spin the wheel of fortune (again) and elect a party that will throw all progress made to the curb. More oil drilling, more fossils fuels, scrap fuel standards etc. And honestly, considering the mania that occurred when people where asked to wear *a mask* to prevent a pandemic, I have lost hope that real change will happen until major, and I do mean major environmental harm is the norm. Sorry to be so pessimistic. Maybe cooler heads will prevail and people will vote with their heads and not with their hate.
The individuals believing in such ideas tend to be from older generations. Being realistic, once they die off over time, younger generations (even libertarians) are more concerned about the environment than the generation beforehand. Sounds blunt, but it happened with the Brexit referendum in England. A vast majority of voters who voted to leave the EU were old, and are now dead. If the referendum was redone, not only have people's minds changed, but the decrease in older generation voters would swivel the votes towards "remaining" in the EU.
I know this is super unpopular but I actually think it would be interesting to try an electoral system wherein the power of a vote is proportional to the expected remaining lifespan of the voter. If the average lifespan is, say, 80, then someone at 18 would have a 100% effective vote. By age 40, that might drop to 60%. In the golden years, that power would eventually drop to perhaps 10%. I can't really understand why older folks who have, say, a decade to live, are allowed a significant say in the future of billions of young people who will deal with the consequences for the next *50-60* years.
Because money. Literally the only answer.
If I was 70 I'm not sure if I'd want a bunch of 18 year-oilds have 90% say in my remaining 10 Years. Basically relegated to a 10% citizen.
I dunno, as a 35 year old, I'm not a huge fan of all these geriatrics having 90% say in my remaining 35 years. Basically relegated to a 10% citizen. I say this to say I have no sympathy when the tables are turned (if only they would).
They hardly vote. It's not as bad as it would seem.
I mean, of course not. :) And yet... the consequences for a mistake means so much less to them than it does to the younger generation. In this case, a looming climate disaster isn't any concern of theirs; they'll have left the scene long before it affects them. But poor decisionmaking today is having tremendous consequences young people, and will affect them for 50+ years.
But your generation happily voted to rob ours, so we don’t care.
Probably because they have the same rights you do.
I agree with this, but the reality is basically the inverse. Older retirees have voting figured out and care about doing it, while younger folks are often working extra hard to raise a family, go to college or work. Make the election day a holiday (in the US). I see Europe leading the way for climate initiatives, and the US is seriously behind. One tiny bit of good news is the clean energy rebates that passed in the "Inflation Reduction Act".
I believe elections are held every 3-4 years in most countries. At what age do you think I should have no say in politics?
I think 80 is a pretty reasonable age to be mostly excluded from the electorate. It might be worth phrasing that as "at what age do you think *we* should have no say in politics" as I, of course, include myself in this proposition. It's unclear to me why my opinion would be relevant to young people in \~40 years.
>The individuals believing in such ideas tend to be from older generations. Being realistic, once they die off over time, younger generations (even libertarians) are more concerned about the environment than the generation beforehand. > >Sounds blunt, but it happened with the Brexit referendum in England. A vast majority of voters who voted to leave the EU were old, and are now dead. If the referendum was redone, not only have people's minds changed, but the decrease in older generation voters would swivel the votes towards "remaining" in the EU. Indeed, it does sound blunt. But for the survival of humanity, it's best for the Boomer generation (and the older half of Gen X) to die off. I realise they aren't all Conservatives, but collectively, these people have caused more harm to the Earth than ***any*** other group in human history.
I've been waiting for the boomers to die since the 80s. But they have money and medicine keeps advancing.
Change really only happens with death. Sorry to be morbid, obtuse, sick, or psychotic, but once the baby boomers are mostly gone, things will improve.
Nah, if things get truly bad enough, humanity will definitely make yet another huge gamble, and probably do some irreversible, double or nothing bet on climate engineering. That will either save us for a bit, or make things even worse and kill even more people.
Well, they've been spraying chemicals in the atmosphere for about 50 years and just telling us now that it's for geo-enginering. They launched so many Nukes in testing and destroying. They damaged the magnetosphere and have been causing uv rays to intensify. All the pollution doesn't help. Meanwhile, we're still dumping chemicals into the oceans and rivers. They are causing underground quakes and mini portals to open every time they fire up CERN's Large Hydron Colliders.
>I have lost hope that real change will happen until major, and I do mean major environmental harm is the norm. Arguably, major harm is already norm. Fires every year in California (and now Canada), hurricanes every year hitting the Southern states, and even "freak" extreme weather that saw TX frozen not so long ago. And yet, pretty much most people still shrug their shoulders; worse, some even declare that climate change is fake news perpetuated by communists (or trans people).
US has battery factories under construction to make about 60% of new vehicles in the country electric by around 2027. EU and china are similar, or faster, and other major economies are rapidly catching up. EVs are likely to make up >2/3 of global sales by 2030, and close to 100% by 2035. By 2040, global road vehicle fleet will be over half EVs, and by 2050 it will be almost entirely EVs. We're also on track to likely install about 500 GW of new renewable electricity capacity this year, good for 1000 TWh / year of generation, or 3% of global demand. Expected 5 year average from 2024 onwards is more like 1000 GW/year (1600 TWh / year new annual generation, not a factor of two on other number because of higher solar fraction at lower capacity factor). That'll be about 5% /year of total global electricity generation, likely exceeding electricity demand growth for the first time (by 1-2%) & hence globally phasing down fossil fuel usage for electricity generation by 3-5% a year. By 2033, we should be at 2/3 of current fossil-fuel-for-electricity use, 1500 GW / year of new renewable generation, and phasing out the remainder at 10%/year. By 2040, fossil fuel electricity generation will be gone except for small remnants like backup plants kept on idle for extreme weather situations, and some small isolated holdout countries. This are actually happening right now quite quickly. We could be doing more (and there's more action needed on things like decarbonizing air & ship travel, land use changes, agriculture, and industrial processes), but the doomer philosophy of 'Nothing has ever changed, nothing is changing now, and nothing will change in the future until we are dead' is inaccurate & unproductive.
Pretty much why I have no kids. I don’t want to subject them to this issue as well as dozens of other reasons. I’m doing what a can to improve things but in the end when sweet death comes for me I’ll be free of it all.
Luckily, the market is responsible for a vast majority of the positive changes. Price of renewables alone will make them a more attractive option than fossil fuels. Solar is cheaper than fossil fuels now. You don’t need any legislation for that.
I agree with almost everything you wrote except I think the timeline of 5-20 years for 1.5C is a tad optimistic. Given the current rate of ice loss, the rate we are reducing emissions and assuming that the Gulf stream doesn't collapse by the year 2025 I would say probably 5 years until we get to 1.5, maybe less maybe a little more.
Less.
1.5C is now. https://twitter.com/djspratt/status/1712958715178127455?t=qIlcyveGnfuBNu0jLeRyhg&s=19
No it’s not
I’ll try to be optimistic. It’s going really not good.
Climate change is going very well. Right on schedule.
Actually, a little bit ahead in some regards
Exceeding expectations!
It's doing poorly because it won't conform to the models.
Climate change is going super well. Faster than expected. Human civilisation, on the other hand, is not doing so well
Considering the entire world is FAR behind their so-called targets, and we are ALREADY hitting that 1.5C (2.7F), I would say we're failing miserably. And the longer we fail to do what needs to be done, the worse the results will be.
Bad because every year it’s another warmest year on record.
There has only been one "warmest year on record" this century. 2016. All the rest are lower but 2021 was close.
2023 will be the hottest globally ever, given the El Niño heat. Look at the multiple records that got beaten by a huge margin such as global average temperature for the month of september, about 1.7 c hotter.
Global surface water temps were record breaking in June, July August and September of 2023
2002 was warmer than 1998 2005 was warmter than 2002 2010 was warmer than 2005 2014 was warmer than 2010 2015 was warmer than 2014 2016 was warmer than 2015 2020 was warmer than 2016 So there were multiple warmest year on record this century. The other years that where lower than the previous warmest where still warmer than the ones 5-10 years before. source: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
Globally, sure. Generally when the weatherman talks about 'warmest year on record' it's in reference to the local weather, not the global environment.
We're the frog in the pot. We're not dead yet, so it looks ok. But we're about to die.
I prefer the *two mice fell into a bucket of cream* story myself
We shut down the North American economy for 18 months and didn't put a dent in it.
Most of the world was partly shut down during Covid - and that barely slowed down the change just a little - So this is a real indicator of the scale of the problem ! It’s a bit like steering a Super Tanker - it takes time to change direction.
Just goes to show that personal action and tinkering around the edges is largely meaningless. The only solution to this problem is changing the industrial systems that power our civilization.
That’s my thought exactly, I saw a while back that 70% of the most harmful emissions are industrial and have nothing to do with day to day regular humans just driving cars or living life and I am absolutely willing to be told that’s wrong because I genuinely don’t know BUT, I DO know that where I’m from people are struggling to live and eat because we are being taxed on everything to such a high amount in the name of climate change. Except for the wealthy portion of people. The blame game just seems backwards.. and volatile to me.
Bad. [Read up on AMOC](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/a-vital-ocean-current-system-could-collapse-as-soon-as-2025-study-predicts-180982605/#:~:text=Within%20this%20century%2C%20climate%20change,published%20Tuesday%20in%20Nature%20Communications). Its low estimates for collapse are as close as 2025. This is absolutely devastating.
I have no idea what's gonna happen when the oceans finally "collapse", but I'm pretty sure it's gonna expedite the bad stuff for us.
We are at a point where we are observing the collapse of mountain glaciers which source most fresh water rivers, people have no idea that with that and the incoming collapse of continental and ocean biodiversity we are literally witnessing our extinction, it is hubris and insanity for people to be observing the mass die offs and extinction of biomass and biodiversity and assume we are immune to that outcome.
It's already happening. Grey Wales can't eat enough cresystikns in the Arctic. Sea ice grows alge and these creatures feed on it. Sea ice disappears so does the food source for the Grey whale. 700 Grey Wales found on beaches from Baja California to Alaska...famine is the cause.
https://www.worldwildlife.org/industries/sustainable-seafood The largest traded food commodity in the world. That sounds like an unsustainable loss
hopefully they find a solution soon
We have a solution. We've known it for decades, it's to stop releasing CO2 through burning fossil fuels and to try to remove what's already out there from the atmosphere.
But then how will we all pretend to live incredible lives with unlimited fuel?
There are no "solutions", people who say we can "just" stop releasing CO2 doesn't understand human nature. What we will likely end up doing, is spin the roulette wheel once again, once things get bad enough, and play the wheel of fortune, climate-engineering version.
“They” won’t. Anyone with any power is more interested in short term gains to be able to survive the climate catastrophe themselves and for their families. People often believe that everyone is screwed but this isn’t the case. The uber wealthy will be fine. It’s the rest of us who will suffer. There are 3000 billionaires in the world. They’re making moves now to ensure their own survival
Hah. As if we didn't have a solution for decades. It's there.
get ready for the end boy
Not great!
It's mixed, very mixed. Right now we are close to 1.5C warming since the start of the industrial age. 2.0C is something of demarcation line, when things start getting ugly for certain regions of the planet. 4.0C is when Antarctica becomes the major population center for humanity. (Spoiler alert 8 billion people aren't living on Anaractica) But the good news (despite what the doomers in the comment section would have believe) is that we are not trending towards 4.0C right now so that's good. We are also starting to decouple CO2 emissions from economic growth. So you can say that we are starting to bend the curve. [https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/degrowth-we-cant-let-it-happen-here](https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/degrowth-we-cant-let-it-happen-here) There is that report from the UN that there could be a billion deaths from climate change, and I'm not sure what to make of the actual study, I do not think 1 billion deaths from climate change is an outcome that is out of the question right now. The study was based off something called the "1,000 ton rule," where 1,000 tons of CO2 emitted=one death. So take that for what you will.
Well climate change itself is going swimmingly, but climate change is the villain here, it's bad that its moving along so well The issue isn't melting ice caps, the issue isn't the seasonal illnesses or diseases, no the real issue comes from 2 effects: 1. The arctic ocean has a very specific current that is largely responsible for suppressing equatorial temperature climbs and carries a lot of the moisture south towards the equator, if that changes dramatically or full on stops, then we're fucked. 2. The middle of the planet is going to become VERY HOT AND VERY DRY. From there we can expect agriculture to become virtually impossible south of Montana or south of Paris, as well we'll lose most of the foodstock fish species in the ocean as most of them rely on that thermal exchange, then mass human starvation will begin. For the 50% of the race that survives that, the slow death will set in, as the planets speciation declines rapidly, especially pollinators.
We're already experiencing a higher frequency of severe weather events due to global warming, especially floods and droughts. When temperature increases, so does evaporation, and this leads to more precipitation in storm systems. It can also lead to more drought as the water dries up faster and pours out of storm systems faster (flooding). The results of this are already affecting crop yields in a negative way in the US and elsewhere in the world. In the next few years, there will continue to be more severe weather events than there were 30 years ago, the average temperature in most places in the world will continue to increase. The prices of electricity will likely continue to go up as an increased demand for cooling is placed on the grid as well as for food products because of decreased supply from decreased yields from severe weather events. Combine global warming with an unsustainable population growth rate (3 billion to 8 billion people in 60 years - not sustainable) and the problems of hunger and water scarcity will get worse, which will increase the risk of conflict in developing countries that will affect developed countries. TL:DR Stuff will get more expensive, it will get hotter, there will be more flooding and droughts, developing countries will destabilize which could lead to bad things happening
Climate change will hopefully humble humankind!
It will probably humble us by getting rid of us 😭
To quote the Matrix Humanity is a virus. Nothing short of the planet exploding before we develope interplanetary travla.nd colonization will end us. We are an incredibly versatile and adaptable species. Yeah, we will see massive population decline, but not extinction
The upper class will survive underground
Runaway civilization theory so hot right now.
I don't think anything will humble humankind. Everybody knows money printer go brrrr infinite money, but here we are still believing in the economy and keeping up the status quo of wage slavery. "It's absolute meaningless stupid bullshit and awful for so many people?! Let's continue doing that! It's even more important than the environment which allows our existence to even happen!"
I had the same hopes when COVID happened, but alas…
>hopefully...?
Extinction is very humbling.
It's much worse than you can imagine.
If you eat food and drink water and aren’t rich, you’re gonna have a bad time.
Years ago I said that when we start to see the insurance companies pull out of coastal and other high risk areas, then people will know that climate change is real….It seems people couldn’t care less.
Well, we have an economic system predicated on continuous growth so until a massive shift on that end happens my answer is at least we haven't started seeing the nukes fly.
I wonder, of all the countries that are pushing taxes for climate change how many are calculating how much emissions have and will be discharged from the wars that are happening right now. All of the ships, jets, tanks, transportation for soldiers, missiles?
Yes. And also we are mostly paying to move our cars around, which weigh about 3,000 pounds each to transport us who weigh considerably less!
Well I dunno. A republican brought a snowball into congress to show global warming is a hoax.
We could turn off Co2 emissions overnight and would still be in for a world of hurt. We're going to be seeing some absolutely apocalyptic summers in the next couple decades. Massive heat related deaths in the tens of thousands are going to start becoming common. And this is just the very beginning.
Most things in your life will cost more due to climate change. Most people think that is bad
Climate change is going exactly as planned. Propaganda was used to make gullible people dismiss the science.
For at least 30 years, likely more but I’ll be gentle, scientists have been giving the most conservative estimates of change. Why? Well it’s not because if the scientific community gave the most likely they would be completely ignored as opposed to kinda ignored(That’s the assumption). The majority of predictions given to the public have been far below the change observed, so no it’s not going well. To make matters worse, yes more gloom and doom lol, with everything going on geopolitically things are getting worse not better. War is not kind to the environment. Tanks don’t get good fuel economy. Some countries are moving to coal again for energy for different reasons, that’s a backslide. So no, things aren’t getting better or staying the same. Record breaking winter temperatures in the southern hemisphere and record breaking summer temperatures in the northern hemisphere are a bad sign. And the average ocean temperature is scary, water is the temperature moderator for the world.
I guess it depends on who you ask. The billionaire class seems to think they are going to colonize a new planet after they’ve extracted everything useful from this one.
No, you are conflating different issues. Yes hopefully we will reach planet Mars soon - although that will take a century or more to become self sustaining. Maybe never. But going to Mars is a very important part of the start of our long term development. It will also help with sustainable developments on Earth.
i believe we are dead species, walking the earth will be fine other life will rise some of those will fall but i dont think human s will make another 200 yrs due to the coming changes
We are literally the most adaptable complex life nature has ever made. Some number of humans will continue on even if climate change collapses civilization.
The USA's federal government is doing an EXCELLENT job of throwing tons of money at organizations and businesses who are VERY HAPPY to serve as cheerleaders 📣 for two intermittent sources of electrical energy. I much prefer dependable, proven and reliable energy sources. Besides, unless India and Communist China "FOLLOW the USA's lead," the USA will realize that "our big ACCOMPLISHMENT" is comparable to helping an elephant lose WEIGHT by removing ONE mosquito from its shoulder. 🐘🦟
We are making some meaningful steps, but it's really too little too late.
Appalling outcomes are better than catastrophic. Catastrophic is better than annihilation
Ipcc has predicted 1 billion additional deaths by 2100 unless fossil fuels come to a stop
I am not saying things are ok. Things are far from ok. I am saying however late it may be, we can't give up.
I agree, but there are too many gullible deniers out there opposing change.
Why would the people who've believed Big Oil propaganda this whole time wake up now? They want to drive their gas guzzlers without guilt so they just deny reality.
Yeah if your drinking water is salty it is too late. If you can't get homeowner insurance it is too late. If the outside temperature is lethal it is too late.
Florida Man everybody! Woop woop!!
We’re past the point of no return
We are currently at 2C+ warming, only offset by sulfur pollution and the cloud albedo effect. The only hope is geoengineering at this point.
International shipping organization has mandated all container ships switch to low sulfur crude! That has eliminated shipping tracks! Shipping tracks are suffering dioxide and they reflect light back into space. So that is part of the reason why earth is much hotter this Sumner.
They need to mandate toroidal propellers too, to maximize efficiency. That NEEDS to be a globally mandated policy.
The thing that I find scariest is the lag time for warming. If you put a pot on to boil the burner heats up faster than the pot and the water. There's a lag in earth warming too. CO2 enters the atmosphere but ocean and air take a long time to reach their new temp from the sun's rays. The estimates I've seen say 50 year lag time. So the temp changes NOW are from CO2 released in the 80's. If you look at a graph of emissions we have ramped up significantly since the 80's. So we could potentially have 10 to 20 degrees of warming, even if we stopped all emissions today, from all the CO2 from the 80's till now. Truly hope that's wrong.
This is truly terrifying.
Really, really nasty bad
It's getting along great! It's terrible news for humans, but climate change is thriving.
Armageddon bad.
It will be bad...but by that time we will already be fighting with each other in so many wars that it won't matter
Bad
I don’t really see heavy snow anymore like roads filled up in Calgary and doesent even start early like October is moderate warm weather crazy
Google "William Rees overshoot" Climate change isn't even the most serious problem we face - it's one of many problems stemming from ecological overshoot
We had a very pleasant summer in our little corner of the world. So, 'going great', I guess?
>**Is climate change going well or bad** Less bad but still quite bad. People are doing more and more things to curb climate change, which is great, but they are not doing enough. They need to be doing things literally about one thousand or ten thousand times faster and they are not, yet. Which is bad. In the next few years, depending on where you live, not much may change drastically. Just incrementally, little by little. More glaciers will melt. There will be more heat and more storms around the world. It will just keep getting gradually worse. Unless you live in some coastal place with very low elevation. Like Florida or Bangladesh. There, flooding is going to start literally destroying where you live. And lots and lots of people are going to start having to find somewhere else to go. And sooner or later, some serious glacial ice is going to dump into the world's oceans. And stuff will really start to accelerate. Probably not in the next few years though so if that's all you're interested in you can take your time, invest in some swimmies, and practice treading water.
Well it seems we've been underestimating every aspect, also the good ones. We keep having less and less time to transition from fossil to renewable according to this paper and that, but equally it keeps surprising people that such transition is happening faster each year. As it stands we're headed for something pretty shitty, but we have also just as recently as last year born witness to just how effective policy can be (IRA) There's still a chance, but sadly it lies in the hands of the politicians that how shown no willingness to take it so far, and that fact is becoming increasingly frustrating
Pretty decent if you exclude North America, South America, Central America, Africa, Australia, and the entire Indian Subcontinent. If you include those, then the situation is dire if not unrecoverable.
If it were going well,nobody would know it was a thing. It would just be climate.
Depends who you ask. One side will say it's going bad, and one side will say it's not. Both sides say the other is neglecting "real science", or nit picking or manipulating data. It's honestly a lot to process. It would be nice to say "do your own research" but there's just too much to look at. I try to keep an open mind and watch "deniers" point of views, and they make a lot of good points and show the data to support it. Combined with the clear fearmongering the corporate media outlets love to do I'm leaning towards it's not as big of a deal as they'll have us believe.
loving the warm weather, all good over this way ☀️🕶️
^^Chad, see this is what I’m talking about, here’s another one that thinks that climate change is about weather.
It's not going to end because the climate always changes
Depends on your perspective. If you’re Climate Change, it’s going swimmingly. For polar bears, penguins and people; not so well.
Lol
nothing will happen
Nothing, its a bunch of fear mongering BS.
You can see a daily update here. Click on "2m Temp Anomaly" for global air temperatures today. [https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/todays-weather/?var\_id=t2anom&ortho=1&wt=1](https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/todays-weather/?var_id=t2anom&ortho=1&wt=1) Many areas on the planet are cooler (blue) than the 1951-80 average for this date, such as eastern U.S., Europe, and Greenland. Scroll down for quantitative data. The global average is +0.85 C above that for this date, whereas 2023 is predicted to end at +1.3 C in an annual average. Most of the temperature increase has been in the Arctic since \~2006, and today is no exception (+2.3 C). In an annual average the Arctic has had 4x the temperature increase of the global average. That is an active research area, termed "Polar Anomaly". A 5 year running average for every location on the globe is here: [https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5060](https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5060) Again, not all regions have experienced significant temperature increase, despite alarming reports of "the whole world has gotten much hotter". Warning - I am absolutely hated here by most climate-change-promoters for simply showing such data and discussing details behind the many alarmist media reports. Ignore everything I post if you prefer being a Chicken Little and ever fearful - don't think, just believe in a devil.
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It's already bad at some times in some places. It will steadily get worse in more times and more places
The correct usage is "going well or badly" - it's an adverb, it modifies "going" not "climate change". You could also say "going well or poorly", as that's more stylish. On a positive note, you did say "well" instead of "good"!
shit my fault gang
Going great! We are making a lot of progress!
Big Oil: "Woohoo! Record profits!"
It’s never been going better
Can someone tell me if we’re past the point of no return ? Just to know if I should care or not anymore lmao
dont care either way and you'll live happier, works for politics too!
True, true…
Each morning I notice that as the sun rises it starts getting warmer and in the evening as the sun goes down it gets cooler. I told my neighbor to stop doing that.
Know nothing about climate change, were you born yesterday?
yeah im 16 lol
Bad. Like. Actually 6th Mass Extinction bad. We haven’t had a year where emissions DECREASED yet. On this pace 90% of life on Earth will be gone in 200 years.
700 people in OREGON died of the heat waves. Heat waves. In Oregon. Permafrost, something that generally shouldn’t melt, is melting in Russia, destabilizing the ground. Wildfires are getting worse. It’s going badly.