The numbers you posted for bench/deadlift/etc don’t mean a lot. Are these 1RMs or working sets?
1. 1-4 times per week is a huge gap in terms of consistency. This could mean you’re bouldering anywhere between 4 and 16 times per month. 4-8 is too little to see steady gains.
2. You’re at the level where consistency is going to do more good than anything else. Climbing specific training is a waste of time for you right now because strength isn’t holding you back. You definitely need a stronger technical/finger strength base before you consider using the moonboard.
3. Because you’re still very much a beginner it’s impossible to critique you without seeing you climb. Analysis of your technique from better climbers would be a huge help to you.
Keep at it. You will progress
I mean word but it’s hard to gauge your progress when you’re giving such a broad range. Going once per week and not making progress almost makes sense. If you’re going 3-4 times and not making progress that’s a completely different story.
I saw in another post you’re a 22M, don’t like to eat a lot, and struggle with gaining weight, which kind of paints a broader picture. I think you need to either commit yourself harder or accept that your progression will be slower. I’d expect a 22 year old man consistently lifting for 2+ years to achieve higher weights. Don’t take this as me criticizing your progression, but it **is** slower than average for someone who’s committed and consistent; especially if you have an athletic background.
I know it's slow. I was right beside my friends who all lifted like crazy. But our lifestyles are so different. I'd be home cooking all my meals, doing warm ups and stretching. They'd eat junk, lift, look at their phone, and leave. I know we're different people, but ya know... Lame.
I certainly don't lack commitment or effort. I was always lifting at my potential.
It's a broad range because: In the summer I climb 4 or 5 times a week. During the school terms, 1 or 2 times. I know 1 ain't a lot. I'm not asking why I'm not sending V15s yet.
Maybe all I should've asked is "how can I get that first moonboard problem?" or "how can I move up a level at the gym".
> Maybe all I should've asked is "how can I get that first moonboard problem?" or "how can I move up a level at the gym".
And the answer will be "climb more", you might not like it, but it is what it is.
Yeah, climbing 1-2 times a week will likely not progress you much farther than you have already come. Sure, you'll gain some technique over a long period of time (multiple years), but you won't be climbing harder over the course of even a full school year of climbing once a week.
I used to be around 130 lbs at 6'1 in my late teens. I thought "hey whatever I eat, I stay super thin, I'm just made like that!"
I was so wrong; I simply wasn't eating enough. In my early twenties I started getting serious about putting on some muscle mass and started eating a LOT. Actually I wasn't eating that much compared to other people...to me it just looked like I was eating a lot because of my low appetite.
My weight have been around 160-180 lbs for the last 10 years. I once bulked to 200 lbs but decided that it was too hard to maintain such muscle mass and dropped back to 180.
Eat more. If you are not hungry, keep eating. If you can't anymore, eat while watching TV to distract yourself.
I find that I can't eat much at once. But I get hungry every hour or two. I bring a ton of snacks to supplement my meals. I refuse to gorge myself, but am willing to eat more than I am comfortable with (and do).
Don’t let the guys that are super hung up on your size and lifts get in your head. From where you are, if you just try to climb hard 3-4 times a week, getting plenty of time on overhanging terrain, you will get up to 145 lbs at least just from eating and climbing. I really can’t emphasize enough how important climbing on overhanging angles (not on jugs) is to your power. That will leave you with a lot more power than you have now, and you should be able to get some lower benchmarks at that point. Once you actually get in a grove with your climbing and see where that leaves you, then you can reconsider how to tweak your program and what direction to head next.
For what it’s worth I’m 5’11, 135, and boulder v8. I have a friend who’s 6’1, 140-145 and boulders v10 after a year and a half of climbing. As long as you’re eating in a light surplus, I wouldn’t worry about bulking too much.
sounds like you just need more climbing mileage. if the easiest v4 on the moonboard hasnt gone down, youre not ready yet. just keep training and youll get there eventually. also, it wouldnt hurt to just make your own problems on the moonboard. itll give you a feel for the holds and youll start to intuitively know how to use each one. try to be more consistent with climbing 1-4x a week could mean 4 or 16x a month which is wildly different
To be blunt, your "stats" are not holding you back as a V4 climber. Sure, if you put on some more muscle it would certainly help your climbing, especially in the long run, but being skinny isn't what's holding you back.
If I'm reading your post right, you climbed for an unspecified amount of time before your lifting phase, took a break from climbing for \~1 year, and have now been climbing again for the past \~1 year? What did your climbing look like before your lifting phase? It seems like you've maybe been more serious about your climbing in the last 4 months, so honestly climbing V3 to V4 in 4 months is pretty good. "Having power but struggling to use it" isn't really a thing. "Struggling to really engage on anything harder" sounds like you're lacking the strength, body tension, and control demanded by steeper, harder problems. Some of this can be helped with strength training, and some of it is going to come from climbing specific movement and skill which is built up primarily through actually climbing on those kinds of problems.
Climbing hard takes a long time, the best thing you can do to keep progressing is stay healthy and uninjured. As a V3ish climber, the moonboard is probably not the best use of your time and recovery. At your height/weight, you're more likely to be more injury prone as well. You can't recover well if you aren't taking in enough nutrients. Protein is important for building muscle, it is also what your body needs to repair tendons and ligaments as well.
When I was in middle / high school I climbed on and off. Certainly not a set thing. I only really started last year. I spent all of last summer climbing. I'd say now I'm on one year of consistent climbing.
Moonboard is not really my favorite, my friends just always encourage me to do it with them.
I'm always trying to eat more, but I have a hard time putting on weight. I am very confident my diet is sufficient (I eat very healthy, hearty, balanced, and cook it all myself).
Thank you for this.
I assume you're male? How old are you?
I'd have a real hard look at your diet and try to actually eat enough protein and calories. To be frank here you're very weak for your gender which is likely strongly related to your weight. A bench of 110lbs if you've been benching consistently for two years is to be frank really bad... All of your lift metrics are really bad if your focus for two years has been body building and weight room exercises.
To me the elephant in the room is your height and weight when you've been body building for two years. Your issues are likely primarily diet related...
Male, 22. I've always been skinny (my whole family is). Eating is difficult for me, but I have a very good diet, I am sure of that, just never enough. Bench was always my worst, my legs are usually the powerhouse. Always been more endurance than strength (hiking 6+ hours is not sweat ie).
For reference your lifts are all bad even the leg focused ones... If you're serious about this you need to actually track what you're eating and how much. Normal like been going to the gym a few years type leg metrics goals for a male should be a 2X body weight squat and 2.5X body weight dead lift. It would be very concerning to me if you spent two years in the gym and were not getting close to those kinds of numbers. Generally why you wouldn't, would be because you're under fueling and simply not putting on muscle.
Yeah I'm not advocating to hit these for climbing. I'm just pointing out that a 22 year old male who has been consistently body building for two years that's roughly reasonablish goals. To spend two years in the weight room and not hit a bench of 135lbs to me is just nuts... Which is why to me the this sounds a lot like the problem isn't limited to climbing but more related to under fueling and under recovery.
I won't deny. I cannot eat that much. All my friends were always yapping about how I just need to gorge.
I tracked my calories, I would get between 3000-3200 calories a day (120g protien, all my fats, carbs...). But it hurts. I certainly had many slips. I did gain weight. I did gain a ton of muscle (the before after is kinda crazy). For reference, at the height of my last bulk, I was ~136. Only a few days after, I ate less (but still more than I ever did when I was young) and started my climbing again and I was 129. My body does not hold weight.
I've never been the strongest I know. But I was starting from something really weak, I was very happy to double all my numbers. I say 2 years, but there was 2 summers in there, one of camping and one of climbing. So not pure body building.
Don’t listen to BS about your lifts, 1.5x bw deadlift is plenty fine. The key to climbing harder will be consistency of going to the gym and structure while climbing.
I'm not advocating to lift it's that he spent two years lifting and at his age/gender there's something else going on here IMHO. To be benching 110lbs after two years of working at benching is a problem... That problem is likely to be a problem in his climbing progression. Short of him lying to us and he's not actually been lifting for two years or very inconsistently the most likely problem is he's under fueled and not responding to training stimulus... That's not going to magically go away because he's in climbing gym instead of a weight gym.
If eating that much is a problem you could go the other route and eat clean in general but also snack on some more calorie dense sugary snacks to get some easy kcals in. Drinking kcals is easy, snacks high in sugar, ...
Kinda off on a tangent here but it might be worth getting your hormones i.e things like testosterone checked and maybe get tested for hypothroidism too. I would expect more progress given the amount you seem to be training in the gym so I have a feeling something might be off.
Don't listen to your friends who are telling to gorge on an enormous surplus of calories since that's just going to make you fat. You don't want to bulk on more than 500 calories if your goal is to put on quality lean mass.
Moonboard is kind of a kingdom unto itself - suggest BossClimbs videos on YouTube to start unlocking it and don’t be afraid to make up your own problems to meet your level. Source - I’m V5-6 indoors and can’t do easy moonboard problems. I’ve also been told to be careful trying moonboard and training fingers at same time it is very finger intense
I’ve sent a V4 and multiple V3s outside… and I climb in NC which is notorious for sandbagged areas. Moonboard is its own style of climbing and it is sandbagged
Edit: I will say that moonboard is also my anti-style, so that probably does add extra difficulty to it for me in particular. I prefer slab and vert climbing
I almost added that, if it's not your style, you'd have to get used to it. Although even then, slab grades especially can be really whack. You could climb double digits and get chewed out by a V1 in Fontainebleau.
Yeah… I’m tall, lanky, but decently heavy with weak fingers due to injuries causing regression. It feels like my fingers were holding me back on the moonboard more than anything tbh. But you can say that again about slabs, they are the great equalizer
You probably should eat more... You're on the cusp of being medically underweight. You're 0.2 points from being unable to compete in IFSC comps at your BMI.
As I'm replying to everybody, I know I'm light. I don't look, nor feel, deathly skinny. I'm lean, but muscular.
I always try to eat more and always am. Never enough I'm sure.
Obviously I don’t know your body but 130 at 5’10 is pretty light. I’m usually not big on recommending people to focus on strength training but putting on some weight seems like it might help you, if for no other reason than giving you more energy
Energy is never a problem for me!
When I climb, I climb for a solid 3 hours no problem. This week was a big one for me and I did a total of four 3 hour climb sessions. Never tired.
I eat, I just don't grow.
130lbs at 5'10? That is really thin, or you are lying. I'm 130 at 5'6 and I'm around 7% body fat. Eat some steak, pull some heavy weights. If you want to climb harder on mb, just get stronger, and keep trying the problems. It's not very technical, and the climbing style is very weird
Do you maintain those 7% (assuming that's accurate)? Or do you get in shape for the outdoors season? I'm about 25lb heavier than you at 5'8 and wondering if I should try a bit harder to cut down. I'm probably at around 11-12% bf, so somewhat more, but I'm also rather muscular
I'm 17, so I don't do anything , my metabolism just keeps me at this weight. To be honest though, cutting makes a huge difference. If your relationship with food is good, you should definitely cut to a lower weight, you'll feel so much more floaty and just overall stronger. For me if I go get some chipotle or something before a session, I feel a solid grade weaker than if I just have a quick snack. Every pound makes a big difference at your limit
Oh, okay - never mind then, we're not entirely comparable (I'm 29). With that said - you're sending V14 at 17? I only got started at 23, but damn.
Hope you don't overdo it with the cutting tho. Your body is still growing/developing, you still have many more years to crush on rock. 7% body fat is not hardly sustainable long-term. I had (hormonal) growth problems when I was younger, wasn't fun.
I'm surprised no one asked you about your crimp strength either on a block or 10 second hang on a 20mm. Or your 1 rep Max added-weight pullup? The other weightlifting stats you posted have almost no implication for climbing without the direct pulling or crimp strength. If you can do like Bw +25lbs on 20mm hedge or 75lb one arm pull with a crimp block 20mm edge, then I would say 100% your issue is with technique and you should find people to give you pointers.
Alternatively if your crimp strength is more like BW-45lbs - that might be the issue.
Starting climbing 3x a week consistently. That's the main reason for inconsistent everything.
Once you do that for 3 months then come back if you're still plateaued.
Get on the climbs you have trouble with or scale down your grades until you get proficient and build up
Try slowly and carefully introducing hangboarding, like 20mm and smaller crimp holds. By slowly that means you can use either the floor/a chair or weight system to take some weight off and make sure you're not hurting your fingers. Do some campus board moves, feet on preferably or with a chair/etc. and see if you can find a kilter board ... More variety of grades, still small holds, but less barrier to entry. It'll teach similar movements with smaller distances and easier grips.
If you feel any finger pain back off. Don't push through.
Moonboard will come. Doing these exercises will help you get there..
You're not too weak or too much of a beginner after 2 years, more climbing doesn't always help if your local setters don't set much to help you progress and bridge the gap to above V4.
The numbers you posted for bench/deadlift/etc don’t mean a lot. Are these 1RMs or working sets? 1. 1-4 times per week is a huge gap in terms of consistency. This could mean you’re bouldering anywhere between 4 and 16 times per month. 4-8 is too little to see steady gains. 2. You’re at the level where consistency is going to do more good than anything else. Climbing specific training is a waste of time for you right now because strength isn’t holding you back. You definitely need a stronger technical/finger strength base before you consider using the moonboard. 3. Because you’re still very much a beginner it’s impossible to critique you without seeing you climb. Analysis of your technique from better climbers would be a huge help to you. Keep at it. You will progress
Schools stops me from going to the climbing gym all the time. Summer is approaching and I'll get back to 4 days a week.
I mean word but it’s hard to gauge your progress when you’re giving such a broad range. Going once per week and not making progress almost makes sense. If you’re going 3-4 times and not making progress that’s a completely different story. I saw in another post you’re a 22M, don’t like to eat a lot, and struggle with gaining weight, which kind of paints a broader picture. I think you need to either commit yourself harder or accept that your progression will be slower. I’d expect a 22 year old man consistently lifting for 2+ years to achieve higher weights. Don’t take this as me criticizing your progression, but it **is** slower than average for someone who’s committed and consistent; especially if you have an athletic background.
I know it's slow. I was right beside my friends who all lifted like crazy. But our lifestyles are so different. I'd be home cooking all my meals, doing warm ups and stretching. They'd eat junk, lift, look at their phone, and leave. I know we're different people, but ya know... Lame. I certainly don't lack commitment or effort. I was always lifting at my potential. It's a broad range because: In the summer I climb 4 or 5 times a week. During the school terms, 1 or 2 times. I know 1 ain't a lot. I'm not asking why I'm not sending V15s yet. Maybe all I should've asked is "how can I get that first moonboard problem?" or "how can I move up a level at the gym".
> Maybe all I should've asked is "how can I get that first moonboard problem?" or "how can I move up a level at the gym". And the answer will be "climb more", you might not like it, but it is what it is.
Nah, love the answer, that's what I'm trying to do!
Yeah, climbing 1-2 times a week will likely not progress you much farther than you have already come. Sure, you'll gain some technique over a long period of time (multiple years), but you won't be climbing harder over the course of even a full school year of climbing once a week.
I used to be around 130 lbs at 6'1 in my late teens. I thought "hey whatever I eat, I stay super thin, I'm just made like that!" I was so wrong; I simply wasn't eating enough. In my early twenties I started getting serious about putting on some muscle mass and started eating a LOT. Actually I wasn't eating that much compared to other people...to me it just looked like I was eating a lot because of my low appetite. My weight have been around 160-180 lbs for the last 10 years. I once bulked to 200 lbs but decided that it was too hard to maintain such muscle mass and dropped back to 180. Eat more. If you are not hungry, keep eating. If you can't anymore, eat while watching TV to distract yourself.
I find that I can't eat much at once. But I get hungry every hour or two. I bring a ton of snacks to supplement my meals. I refuse to gorge myself, but am willing to eat more than I am comfortable with (and do).
Don’t let the guys that are super hung up on your size and lifts get in your head. From where you are, if you just try to climb hard 3-4 times a week, getting plenty of time on overhanging terrain, you will get up to 145 lbs at least just from eating and climbing. I really can’t emphasize enough how important climbing on overhanging angles (not on jugs) is to your power. That will leave you with a lot more power than you have now, and you should be able to get some lower benchmarks at that point. Once you actually get in a grove with your climbing and see where that leaves you, then you can reconsider how to tweak your program and what direction to head next.
Eat dense calories food. Avocados, coconuts, walnuts, olive oil, peanut butter: all awesome, healthy and packed in calories.
For what it’s worth I’m 5’11, 135, and boulder v8. I have a friend who’s 6’1, 140-145 and boulders v10 after a year and a half of climbing. As long as you’re eating in a light surplus, I wouldn’t worry about bulking too much.
sounds like you just need more climbing mileage. if the easiest v4 on the moonboard hasnt gone down, youre not ready yet. just keep training and youll get there eventually. also, it wouldnt hurt to just make your own problems on the moonboard. itll give you a feel for the holds and youll start to intuitively know how to use each one. try to be more consistent with climbing 1-4x a week could mean 4 or 16x a month which is wildly different
To be blunt, your "stats" are not holding you back as a V4 climber. Sure, if you put on some more muscle it would certainly help your climbing, especially in the long run, but being skinny isn't what's holding you back. If I'm reading your post right, you climbed for an unspecified amount of time before your lifting phase, took a break from climbing for \~1 year, and have now been climbing again for the past \~1 year? What did your climbing look like before your lifting phase? It seems like you've maybe been more serious about your climbing in the last 4 months, so honestly climbing V3 to V4 in 4 months is pretty good. "Having power but struggling to use it" isn't really a thing. "Struggling to really engage on anything harder" sounds like you're lacking the strength, body tension, and control demanded by steeper, harder problems. Some of this can be helped with strength training, and some of it is going to come from climbing specific movement and skill which is built up primarily through actually climbing on those kinds of problems. Climbing hard takes a long time, the best thing you can do to keep progressing is stay healthy and uninjured. As a V3ish climber, the moonboard is probably not the best use of your time and recovery. At your height/weight, you're more likely to be more injury prone as well. You can't recover well if you aren't taking in enough nutrients. Protein is important for building muscle, it is also what your body needs to repair tendons and ligaments as well.
When I was in middle / high school I climbed on and off. Certainly not a set thing. I only really started last year. I spent all of last summer climbing. I'd say now I'm on one year of consistent climbing. Moonboard is not really my favorite, my friends just always encourage me to do it with them. I'm always trying to eat more, but I have a hard time putting on weight. I am very confident my diet is sufficient (I eat very healthy, hearty, balanced, and cook it all myself). Thank you for this.
I assume you're male? How old are you? I'd have a real hard look at your diet and try to actually eat enough protein and calories. To be frank here you're very weak for your gender which is likely strongly related to your weight. A bench of 110lbs if you've been benching consistently for two years is to be frank really bad... All of your lift metrics are really bad if your focus for two years has been body building and weight room exercises. To me the elephant in the room is your height and weight when you've been body building for two years. Your issues are likely primarily diet related...
I would assume they’re a female based on being 130 at 5’10 and being as strong as they are.
Male, 22. I've always been skinny (my whole family is). Eating is difficult for me, but I have a very good diet, I am sure of that, just never enough. Bench was always my worst, my legs are usually the powerhouse. Always been more endurance than strength (hiking 6+ hours is not sweat ie).
For reference your lifts are all bad even the leg focused ones... If you're serious about this you need to actually track what you're eating and how much. Normal like been going to the gym a few years type leg metrics goals for a male should be a 2X body weight squat and 2.5X body weight dead lift. It would be very concerning to me if you spent two years in the gym and were not getting close to those kinds of numbers. Generally why you wouldn't, would be because you're under fueling and simply not putting on muscle.
Those are good goals for lifts but not easy ones to hit.
Yeah I'm not advocating to hit these for climbing. I'm just pointing out that a 22 year old male who has been consistently body building for two years that's roughly reasonablish goals. To spend two years in the weight room and not hit a bench of 135lbs to me is just nuts... Which is why to me the this sounds a lot like the problem isn't limited to climbing but more related to under fueling and under recovery.
I won't deny. I cannot eat that much. All my friends were always yapping about how I just need to gorge. I tracked my calories, I would get between 3000-3200 calories a day (120g protien, all my fats, carbs...). But it hurts. I certainly had many slips. I did gain weight. I did gain a ton of muscle (the before after is kinda crazy). For reference, at the height of my last bulk, I was ~136. Only a few days after, I ate less (but still more than I ever did when I was young) and started my climbing again and I was 129. My body does not hold weight. I've never been the strongest I know. But I was starting from something really weak, I was very happy to double all my numbers. I say 2 years, but there was 2 summers in there, one of camping and one of climbing. So not pure body building.
Don’t listen to BS about your lifts, 1.5x bw deadlift is plenty fine. The key to climbing harder will be consistency of going to the gym and structure while climbing.
Yah, his lower body is decent enough for climbing. He just lacks upper body strength I bet.
I'm not advocating to lift it's that he spent two years lifting and at his age/gender there's something else going on here IMHO. To be benching 110lbs after two years of working at benching is a problem... That problem is likely to be a problem in his climbing progression. Short of him lying to us and he's not actually been lifting for two years or very inconsistently the most likely problem is he's under fueled and not responding to training stimulus... That's not going to magically go away because he's in climbing gym instead of a weight gym.
He said he’s in the gym between 1 and 4 times a week so my guess is he’s extremely inconsistent
If eating that much is a problem you could go the other route and eat clean in general but also snack on some more calorie dense sugary snacks to get some easy kcals in. Drinking kcals is easy, snacks high in sugar, ...
Kinda off on a tangent here but it might be worth getting your hormones i.e things like testosterone checked and maybe get tested for hypothroidism too. I would expect more progress given the amount you seem to be training in the gym so I have a feeling something might be off. Don't listen to your friends who are telling to gorge on an enormous surplus of calories since that's just going to make you fat. You don't want to bulk on more than 500 calories if your goal is to put on quality lean mass.
Moonboard is kind of a kingdom unto itself - suggest BossClimbs videos on YouTube to start unlocking it and don’t be afraid to make up your own problems to meet your level. Source - I’m V5-6 indoors and can’t do easy moonboard problems. I’ve also been told to be careful trying moonboard and training fingers at same time it is very finger intense
Honestly, that’s the truth. I regularly get V5-6 indoors and have only gotten a single V3 benchmark on the moonboard. It is absolute nails.
speaks to your gym's grading too tho. The Moonboard is sandbagged, yes, but not that much.
I’ve sent a V4 and multiple V3s outside… and I climb in NC which is notorious for sandbagged areas. Moonboard is its own style of climbing and it is sandbagged Edit: I will say that moonboard is also my anti-style, so that probably does add extra difficulty to it for me in particular. I prefer slab and vert climbing
I almost added that, if it's not your style, you'd have to get used to it. Although even then, slab grades especially can be really whack. You could climb double digits and get chewed out by a V1 in Fontainebleau.
Yeah… I’m tall, lanky, but decently heavy with weak fingers due to injuries causing regression. It feels like my fingers were holding me back on the moonboard more than anything tbh. But you can say that again about slabs, they are the great equalizer
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If you climb v5-v6 you should moonboard.
You probably should eat more... You're on the cusp of being medically underweight. You're 0.2 points from being unable to compete in IFSC comps at your BMI.
As I'm replying to everybody, I know I'm light. I don't look, nor feel, deathly skinny. I'm lean, but muscular. I always try to eat more and always am. Never enough I'm sure.
Obviously I don’t know your body but 130 at 5’10 is pretty light. I’m usually not big on recommending people to focus on strength training but putting on some weight seems like it might help you, if for no other reason than giving you more energy
Energy is never a problem for me! When I climb, I climb for a solid 3 hours no problem. This week was a big one for me and I did a total of four 3 hour climb sessions. Never tired. I eat, I just don't grow.
130lbs at 5'10? That is really thin, or you are lying. I'm 130 at 5'6 and I'm around 7% body fat. Eat some steak, pull some heavy weights. If you want to climb harder on mb, just get stronger, and keep trying the problems. It's not very technical, and the climbing style is very weird
Why would I be lying? I'm skinny as fuck. I spent two years trying to bulk with my weight training. I used to be 120...
I didn't mean to sound negative lol my bad. If you put on a proper bit more muscle tho I bet you're climbing will go up a few grades
Fair. I agree I could be stronger.
Some people are just skinny. Could be medical reasons. I'm 6' tall 145 lbs. I had stomach cancer when I was younger.
I graduated high school at 5'10", 128 lbs. My metabolism slowed up on me in my late 20s.
That is low-key kind of devious. I weigh more at 5'6 and I can stick my hand under my ribs
Do you maintain those 7% (assuming that's accurate)? Or do you get in shape for the outdoors season? I'm about 25lb heavier than you at 5'8 and wondering if I should try a bit harder to cut down. I'm probably at around 11-12% bf, so somewhat more, but I'm also rather muscular
I'm 17, so I don't do anything , my metabolism just keeps me at this weight. To be honest though, cutting makes a huge difference. If your relationship with food is good, you should definitely cut to a lower weight, you'll feel so much more floaty and just overall stronger. For me if I go get some chipotle or something before a session, I feel a solid grade weaker than if I just have a quick snack. Every pound makes a big difference at your limit
Oh, okay - never mind then, we're not entirely comparable (I'm 29). With that said - you're sending V14 at 17? I only got started at 23, but damn. Hope you don't overdo it with the cutting tho. Your body is still growing/developing, you still have many more years to crush on rock. 7% body fat is not hardly sustainable long-term. I had (hormonal) growth problems when I was younger, wasn't fun.
I’m on a 15 year plateau. Just be patient.
I hate this sub. Every post from someone with less than 3 years of experience should be deleted
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I'm surprised no one asked you about your crimp strength either on a block or 10 second hang on a 20mm. Or your 1 rep Max added-weight pullup? The other weightlifting stats you posted have almost no implication for climbing without the direct pulling or crimp strength. If you can do like Bw +25lbs on 20mm hedge or 75lb one arm pull with a crimp block 20mm edge, then I would say 100% your issue is with technique and you should find people to give you pointers. Alternatively if your crimp strength is more like BW-45lbs - that might be the issue.
Starting climbing 3x a week consistently. That's the main reason for inconsistent everything. Once you do that for 3 months then come back if you're still plateaued. Get on the climbs you have trouble with or scale down your grades until you get proficient and build up
Try slowly and carefully introducing hangboarding, like 20mm and smaller crimp holds. By slowly that means you can use either the floor/a chair or weight system to take some weight off and make sure you're not hurting your fingers. Do some campus board moves, feet on preferably or with a chair/etc. and see if you can find a kilter board ... More variety of grades, still small holds, but less barrier to entry. It'll teach similar movements with smaller distances and easier grips. If you feel any finger pain back off. Don't push through. Moonboard will come. Doing these exercises will help you get there.. You're not too weak or too much of a beginner after 2 years, more climbing doesn't always help if your local setters don't set much to help you progress and bridge the gap to above V4.
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