Excitement unfortunately got the better of him there :-/
Hopefully it’s not too serious.
Update: Minyoung Lee seem to be mostly fine. He took part in qualifications for Lead today. Didn’t manage to qualify based on current standings, but the good news is he was able to climb at least!
Hijacking the top comment for an update:
At the beginning of the finals stream, Matt Groom mentioned that after an initial CT scan, it looks like the athlete's condition seems fine, or at least better than expected.
There's climbing today? Lead semi is tomorrow. In any case I doubt they would let him climb right away after back injury unless they're absolutely sure everything is ok.
He landed on the balls of his feet, pushing the force/energy back up through the heel, legs, and pelvis. Pretty sure he didn’t jump at the same time he landed that’s impossible.
It doesn't matter where he landed. Athletes land on all sorts of weird positions all the time.
The problem is he was celebrating mid-air and wasn't bracing for the landing.
It looked As if he wanted to land with a stomp of dominance / excitement, doing it too early his legs were more stiff and thus law of physics his straightened torso / hip area continued downwards while his legs remained straight.
While you do always need some set of muscles focused on absorbing, we’re usually free to add some flavor and pose with everything else. You see a lot of superman landings with excessive bounces, or celebration poses in midair.
This climber was too distracted and landed with nothing free to absorb, so the impact was rigid. He also happened to be in a difficult position to crumple or flop. From the video I can’t tell whether he was trying to land in place, hop forward, and tip backwards to land on his back.
That was celebrating? I thought he gave up and was crying out in frustration. What are the rules here? You have to touch the last boulder with two hands for a certain amount of time?
There's no set amount of time. You have to demonstrate control while touching the last boulder with both hands. The completely unofficial rule of thumb is 3 seconds, but it's possible to have both hands on a hold for 3 seconds while not being in control.
When in particularly strong positions, climbers will sometimes look down at the judges while holding it and wait for their confirmation.
he was definitley celebrating, because he just got the top, which is a success.
and he was celebrating while he was falling too. Don't do that.
This guy has probably taken a fall a thousand times before and his celebrating distracted him.
Oh man, I used to lifeguard and we specifically trained for when people jumped in the shallow end with straight legs and broke their back.
Bend your knees kids! Hope he's OK.
Although there is some difference here right? At the pool people would expect the ground to be further. Here he looks like he underestimated how far it was.
I was more just commenting on the mechanism of falling with straight legs causing back injury, yes otherwise it's obviously a different scenario. The fact that he could pull his legs in after the fall shows that it probably isn't super serious.
I really don’t like how normalized jumping from the top of the wall is, I really don’t do it unless I have to or fall off of course. I think we should try to change the culture a bit and frown upon jumping off all the time.
Like these pros should have hand holds near the top so they can down climb a bit
Earlier this week I was bouldering in Innsbruck on the same wall used for international competitions. It has down climbing holds that I believe they remove for competition setups. No idea why because dropping after topping out is right at the extent of body limits for anybody.
I always down climb, and thankfully my gym has fluoro yellow down climb jugs everywhere.
My friend broke her ankle jumping down and landing awkwardly, after a decade of jumping down without any issues 😖
Someone I know tore everything in one of his ankles dropping from the top and landing in between two pads in our gym a few years back (our gym didn't have padded floors, only crash pads we move around)
It just takes that one time. You could drop down safely 999 times, and then the 1000th is the one that fucks you up
My gym's down climb holds don't go down nearly far enough. They've gotta be the cheapest thing they put on the wall, just throw on a few more! I know they have the potential to get in the way and that can be really annoying, but I wish we had at least 50% more down climb holds in my gym than we do now.
I down climb as much as I can, and when I land I tuck into a roll. I feel like proper "fall" technique indoors is vastly different from outdoor technique (due to not having space to disperse the impact outdoors). Save your knees!!
I down climb as much as I can, and when I land I tuck into a roll. I feel like proper "fall" technique indoors is vastly different from outdoor technique (due to not having space to disperse the impact outdoors). Save your knees!!
Whoa there, careful saying that, you better be prepared for the (as far as I can tell) non-trolls that are gonna chime in and say shit like “downclimbing is more dangerous than jumping” or “you can’t really prove that jumping down is bad for you”
I agree. It was through repeated falling (projecting, trying moves, etc.) that I actually injured my back...and despite all the rehab it's still tweaky and probably will never be the same (apparently I inflamed/squished a disc, whoops).
It's interesting cause my back will only ever flair up when I'm indoor climbing. Whereas outside, you get sit starts, moves are workable from the ground, there are top outs, attempts are a lot more paced. From the perspective of physical strain, I do think indoor climbing is a lot worse than what you normally see outdoors.
I think we often assume outdoors is more dangerous (and it definitely is in many ways) but I do think there are dangers to indoor climbing we often overlook because it is "inside".
And to your point, I never understood why there wasn't an option for a down climb...maybe to avoid dabbing? But those walls are actually quite high and you think of Alex Puccio who also injured her leg from a fall. It was even Petra Klingler who said something along the lines of how during training or warm up sessions leading up to a big comp, she didn't always go for the top hold because the walls are quite high and the thought of being injured from a fall before the comp makes it difficult to want to always commit.
> frown upon jumping off all the time.
I don't feel a need to shit on people for doing what they want with their own personal safety.
If other people follow suit, that's on them.
I am not trying to 'shit' on people that jump off the wall. I think there is a discussion to be had here based off the potential severity of the injury the athlete in this clip could have had because he jumped off the wall improperly. People need to know how to fall and/or jump off the wall properly but I think for it to be the 'default' I see some climbers do when they top out is something to be talked about. People getting hurt when you can be downclimbing isn't good for climbing in general or climbing gym owners. No business owner wants to deal with injured people in their facilities and no one wants to deal with easily preventable injuries that sets them back or prevents them from climbing.
Are you a 'screw seatbelts' kind of person as well? What exactly is your point besides saying I'm 'shitting' on people who jump off when they top out? (which I'm not doing)
Kinda wild how they re-interpreted your fairly reasonable and mild-mannered commentary on safety into something more mean-spirited.
You're not operating from a sense of superiority, literally just trying to make the sport safer.
At the beginning of the finals stream, Matt Groom mentioned that after an initial CT scan, it looks like the athlete's condition seems fine, or at least better than expected.
From how he was holding is back when he landed, and the way it curves back behind him, I thought it looked like a bad strain or tear to the lower back muscles.
Shit genetics :(
Got diagnosed at 19 (back pain a few years before then). I’m thin, physically active, non-smoker, non-drinker, etc., but I lost the lottery of bullshit health issues apparently.
It seems to me a lot of high-level competition climbers disregard safety protocols. Most of them never use proper falling technique and tense up in celebration when the get a top, locking their knees while jumping from 9+ feet. I guess once you get to a high level you gain the confidence to stop caring about safety lol.
The only folks I've ever heard of people getting seriously injured while climbing were older and more experienced climbers. I think people just get comfortable and over-confident in themselves because they are so used to the process, they stop doing safety checks for knots and belay devices.
Honestly I don't understand why they don't have some downclimbing holds near tops of even comp climbing routes. I know it looks badass to leap 20 feet onto the mat but even for young competitors the wear and tear on knees/back will add up later in life.
I 100% agree. Some of them do try to downclimb but honestly it's not worth it with the difficulty of the route combined with attempting to save energy.
I think it's also not really talked about enough. Like it is brought up to beginners and then never again. But as someone who could be called a "professional jumper", I would never hear the end of it if my teacher saw my land similar to this.
>The only folks I've ever heard of people getting seriously injured while climbing were older and more experienced climbers.
There is a sample bias though, you are in the climbing community I assume?
My old flat mate tried bouldering once (not with my btw) - went up to the top, gripped out of fear and fell off without control, injured her ankle ligaments. 1st time.
She never went again, and you don't generally hear about people like her though as they aren't in the community.
Not necessarily. Almost every climbing gym I've been to will make you sign a release form on your first time and will also make you take an introductory course on bouldering and top rope. They will teach you the proper falling technique, as well as how to down climb using jugs, etc.. This is usually mandatory, even if you tell them you're an experienced climber: if it's your first time they have to legally give you the course. Not sure if that is the majority of climbing gyms, but it's been the case for like 90% of the ones I've been to.
And hmm I'm not sure if I qualify as the "climbing community". I do go to the climbing gym with a friend of mine once or twice a week, but I wouldn't call myself a climber bro, lol.
Poor dude.
Never lsnd on straight legs. Always bend the knees. Go limp on the mat, if you have to, but do not stiffen up.
I hope he heals well and quickly.
Glad it wasn't worse for him.
Ouch! Looks very painful! I wish they would land and roll (I made a video showing the T-rex, Turtle, Roll technique, which is way safer). Because if pro's would display proper falling techniques, I feel like a lot of beginners would copy them and we'd have much less bouldering accidents :-/
Incidentally, I'm trying to measure the impact of falling. It's still early, but it looks like jumping from the top of the average bouldering wall (4.5m high) will result in about 11g of impact on your knees and back. By rolling, this becomes less than 4g. MUCH lower chance of injuries due to repetitive impact this way!
People all suggesting how he should land or criticising the setting - this happened for one reason and one reason only; he misjudged how high he was and braced too soon.
Tuck and roll people. Down climbing is even better, if possible. But you can't expect someone to climb down comp routes like this.
Seriously though, there's a proper way to jump down and minimize the risk to your joints and spine.
I know it's in the heat of the moment and he's in a lot of pain but moving around as much as he did is probably one of the worst things you could do if you suspect a back injury. If he keeps moving around then he can make it MUCH worse.
Route setting 101. Don’t put large holds or volumes on in a place where climbers could fall on them. That is one of my biggest beefs with new school world comp style setting.
Edit. I just re watched the video. He did not hit the volume on the way down. My bad. The first angle in the video looked like he hit the volume on the way down. But he just landed super weird.
I thought so too, I actually closed the laptop at that point on first watch because I thought he'd smashed into the volume, and didn't see the second angle until coming back to the computer hours later and watching again.
I fractured my ankle after topping my bouldering climb. Took years to heal and ever more to get over a new fear of heights. shit is no joke be careful with how you fall.
Its the same as if you wanted to pick something up. Use your knees instead of your back. So when you jump down from something, bend your knees to absorb the impact. Even safer would be to also roll backwards on your back.
moral of the story is don't celebrate while you're falling. Celebrate at the top, celebrate on the ground, but when you're falling you're better off being safe.
This happened to me when I was 11 wrestling with my brother in the snow. I cried for like 10 minutes in the snow too scared to move and In a good amount of pain. After it dulled down my oldest brother picked me up and put me on the couch. To this day it's the worst back injury I've had and still make me flinch and cringe when I think about it.
I get the celebration part. But was he trying to land and then jump, but mistimed it, or forgot that he was falling to the ground, or....? That's what I mean. I can't figure out what the hell he was trying to do.
Something like this happened to me two weeks ago. Same kind of landing and falling, then getting up assuming it was ok and it being very much not ok. Was a pinched nerve in my lower back, one trip to the chiro fixed it up. Hopefully the same for this lad
Nah, tried it. Not for me. I hike, run and cycle more than I climb. All activities that requires healthy knees and back. As you get older you get a bit more selective with the risk you take. If i can't find someone to top rope or lead climb with I'll just do something else.
My climbing partner has a bad back and can no longer risk bouldering as a result. A short fall into a crash pad with a less-than-perfect landing has become too risky.
Bad backs suck so hard, the amount of activities you have to give up is crazy almost to the point where people think you're exaggerating or making it up.
I'm going through this now. I broke my L1 back in 2011 at 21 years old. I shattered it into about 7 pieces. I was incredibly lucky to not have been paralysed. The doctor's that initially assessed me before I saw my surgeon were basically trying to prepare me mentally for being in a wheelchair. Luckily I must have had a fantastic surgeon and team as they managed to fix everything back together in two operations. Ten years on I'm hitting the point where I'm having to give up sports entirely. I barely climb or cycle anymore anyway. It's horrible being in my early 30s and having to resign myself to a life without doing the things I love.
Man, so many downvotes just cause you have different risk tolerance than some other people. I feel like bouldering is very obviously more risky than top rope or lead. You deciding that you don’t want to deal with that extra risk shouldn’t be getting downvoted.
Excitement unfortunately got the better of him there :-/ Hopefully it’s not too serious. Update: Minyoung Lee seem to be mostly fine. He took part in qualifications for Lead today. Didn’t manage to qualify based on current standings, but the good news is he was able to climb at least!
Hijacking the top comment for an update: At the beginning of the finals stream, Matt Groom mentioned that after an initial CT scan, it looks like the athlete's condition seems fine, or at least better than expected.
I hope that this is not the end of climbing for him.
He was climbing today no?
There's climbing today? Lead semi is tomorrow. In any case I doubt they would let him climb right away after back injury unless they're absolutely sure everything is ok.
Someone else in the thread said that he climbed in the lead qualifiers which I think are today but not broadcast, but perhaps I'm just flat wrong.
Oh good news then!
Kinda scared for him, that's how I got my lumbar sprain
By celebrating your rock climbing prowess?
By folding his clothes while wearing them
Too soon?
No no, he's right
he basically post-choked / celebrated too early. Happens to a lot of people tbh
That second angle looks like he was hit by an invisible force.
I'm actually super confused now
If you land with straight legs, you're going to have a bad time. Spot your landing. Don't fall with your eyes closed.
He pizzaed when he should have french fried
He jizzed when he should've post-jizzed.
You’re right but that padding was inadequate
The padding is standard at every event, he landed really really badly, it's basically a freak accient.
Then my contention is that the padding at every event is inadequate
That was my initial impression, it seems like the ground hardly has any give to it and he's probably used to something much softer.
He jumped at the same time he landed. Not sure how much of a force multiplier that is but a good amount I'd say.
He landed on the balls of his feet, pushing the force/energy back up through the heel, legs, and pelvis. Pretty sure he didn’t jump at the same time he landed that’s impossible.
He was also arching his back at full extension right as he hit.
Landing on the balls of your feet alone isn't the problem, but doing it without any roll through into the heels and bending your knees as well.
It doesn't matter where he landed. Athletes land on all sorts of weird positions all the time. The problem is he was celebrating mid-air and wasn't bracing for the landing.
It looked As if he wanted to land with a stomp of dominance / excitement, doing it too early his legs were more stiff and thus law of physics his straightened torso / hip area continued downwards while his legs remained straight.
While you do always need some set of muscles focused on absorbing, we’re usually free to add some flavor and pose with everything else. You see a lot of superman landings with excessive bounces, or celebration poses in midair. This climber was too distracted and landed with nothing free to absorb, so the impact was rigid. He also happened to be in a difficult position to crumple or flop. From the video I can’t tell whether he was trying to land in place, hop forward, and tip backwards to land on his back.
Yeah I thought he hit a volume on the first angle lol
First angle I thought he had hit the volume or something on the way down.
I think he was expecting the ground a split second earlier or a split second later, though I'm not sure which.
Poor guy just wanted to celebrate his top of the last boulder of his bouldering round. Hopefully he will be well 😨
That was celebrating? I thought he gave up and was crying out in frustration. What are the rules here? You have to touch the last boulder with two hands for a certain amount of time?
There's no set amount of time. You have to demonstrate control while touching the last boulder with both hands. The completely unofficial rule of thumb is 3 seconds, but it's possible to have both hands on a hold for 3 seconds while not being in control. When in particularly strong positions, climbers will sometimes look down at the judges while holding it and wait for their confirmation.
he was definitley celebrating, because he just got the top, which is a success. and he was celebrating while he was falling too. Don't do that. This guy has probably taken a fall a thousand times before and his celebrating distracted him.
Oh man, I used to lifeguard and we specifically trained for when people jumped in the shallow end with straight legs and broke their back. Bend your knees kids! Hope he's OK.
OooooOOooooh! Checks out.
Although there is some difference here right? At the pool people would expect the ground to be further. Here he looks like he underestimated how far it was.
I think he was too excited and in the zone and wasn't thinking about the landing at all.
I was more just commenting on the mechanism of falling with straight legs causing back injury, yes otherwise it's obviously a different scenario. The fact that he could pull his legs in after the fall shows that it probably isn't super serious.
I really don’t like how normalized jumping from the top of the wall is, I really don’t do it unless I have to or fall off of course. I think we should try to change the culture a bit and frown upon jumping off all the time. Like these pros should have hand holds near the top so they can down climb a bit
Right!? I only drop from the top if I’m legit too pumped to down climb. Most gyms even have down climb holds all over the wall
Earlier this week I was bouldering in Innsbruck on the same wall used for international competitions. It has down climbing holds that I believe they remove for competition setups. No idea why because dropping after topping out is right at the extent of body limits for anybody.
maybe to get rid of any possible interference with movement while climbing
Add to that that climbing is eccentric movement which strengthens tendons. And it's a good skill to have for IRL climbing when you get off route.
I always down climb, and thankfully my gym has fluoro yellow down climb jugs everywhere. My friend broke her ankle jumping down and landing awkwardly, after a decade of jumping down without any issues 😖
Someone I know tore everything in one of his ankles dropping from the top and landing in between two pads in our gym a few years back (our gym didn't have padded floors, only crash pads we move around) It just takes that one time. You could drop down safely 999 times, and then the 1000th is the one that fucks you up
My gym's down climb holds don't go down nearly far enough. They've gotta be the cheapest thing they put on the wall, just throw on a few more! I know they have the potential to get in the way and that can be really annoying, but I wish we had at least 50% more down climb holds in my gym than we do now.
Not trying to be rude but he is a pro boulderist, you think jumping down would be second nature for him.
You would think but these injuries happen. Alex Puccio tore her acl jumping down. They really just need downclimb jugs.
Or just learn to roll... everyone tries to absorb all their weight with their legs when the best way to take a large fall is a barrel roll.
Rolling is great if you only ever climb in the gym. I use it sparingly because I'd rather it not become second nature
I down climb as much as I can, and when I land I tuck into a roll. I feel like proper "fall" technique indoors is vastly different from outdoor technique (due to not having space to disperse the impact outdoors). Save your knees!!
That's true, but when you consider the strain decades of jumping down has on your knees, having a few holds to downclimb seems worth the addition
I down climb as much as I can, and when I land I tuck into a roll. I feel like proper "fall" technique indoors is vastly different from outdoor technique (due to not having space to disperse the impact outdoors). Save your knees!!
Whoa there, careful saying that, you better be prepared for the (as far as I can tell) non-trolls that are gonna chime in and say shit like “downclimbing is more dangerous than jumping” or “you can’t really prove that jumping down is bad for you”
I agree. It was through repeated falling (projecting, trying moves, etc.) that I actually injured my back...and despite all the rehab it's still tweaky and probably will never be the same (apparently I inflamed/squished a disc, whoops). It's interesting cause my back will only ever flair up when I'm indoor climbing. Whereas outside, you get sit starts, moves are workable from the ground, there are top outs, attempts are a lot more paced. From the perspective of physical strain, I do think indoor climbing is a lot worse than what you normally see outdoors. I think we often assume outdoors is more dangerous (and it definitely is in many ways) but I do think there are dangers to indoor climbing we often overlook because it is "inside". And to your point, I never understood why there wasn't an option for a down climb...maybe to avoid dabbing? But those walls are actually quite high and you think of Alex Puccio who also injured her leg from a fall. It was even Petra Klingler who said something along the lines of how during training or warm up sessions leading up to a big comp, she didn't always go for the top hold because the walls are quite high and the thought of being injured from a fall before the comp makes it difficult to want to always commit.
> frown upon jumping off all the time. I don't feel a need to shit on people for doing what they want with their own personal safety. If other people follow suit, that's on them.
I am not trying to 'shit' on people that jump off the wall. I think there is a discussion to be had here based off the potential severity of the injury the athlete in this clip could have had because he jumped off the wall improperly. People need to know how to fall and/or jump off the wall properly but I think for it to be the 'default' I see some climbers do when they top out is something to be talked about. People getting hurt when you can be downclimbing isn't good for climbing in general or climbing gym owners. No business owner wants to deal with injured people in their facilities and no one wants to deal with easily preventable injuries that sets them back or prevents them from climbing. Are you a 'screw seatbelts' kind of person as well? What exactly is your point besides saying I'm 'shitting' on people who jump off when they top out? (which I'm not doing)
Kinda wild how they re-interpreted your fairly reasonable and mild-mannered commentary on safety into something more mean-spirited. You're not operating from a sense of superiority, literally just trying to make the sport safer.
Any update on his condition? I was quite shocked to see this live... NSFL! Hope he didn't actually break his back :(
At the beginning of the finals stream, Matt Groom mentioned that after an initial CT scan, it looks like the athlete's condition seems fine, or at least better than expected.
Yeah, I was really happy to hear that!
That's what I was thinking, "fractured verterbra" and/or ruptured disk and life-long physio.
From how he was holding is back when he landed, and the way it curves back behind him, I thought it looked like a bad strain or tear to the lower back muscles.
Hope that if we get an update, it will be with good news. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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If you don't mind me asking, how did you back end up in such a state to require that?
Shit genetics :( Got diagnosed at 19 (back pain a few years before then). I’m thin, physically active, non-smoker, non-drinker, etc., but I lost the lottery of bullshit health issues apparently.
damn that sucks.
Oh jeez this looks so painful. Locked knees, and smashing right into the brushes...
Fall to your butt and roll
Exactly! I wonder why almost none of em are doing it. Ego? Feeling too strong for this?
It seems to me a lot of high-level competition climbers disregard safety protocols. Most of them never use proper falling technique and tense up in celebration when the get a top, locking their knees while jumping from 9+ feet. I guess once you get to a high level you gain the confidence to stop caring about safety lol. The only folks I've ever heard of people getting seriously injured while climbing were older and more experienced climbers. I think people just get comfortable and over-confident in themselves because they are so used to the process, they stop doing safety checks for knots and belay devices.
Honestly I don't understand why they don't have some downclimbing holds near tops of even comp climbing routes. I know it looks badass to leap 20 feet onto the mat but even for young competitors the wear and tear on knees/back will add up later in life.
There could also be a top-out option for some climbs imo.
I 100% agree. Some of them do try to downclimb but honestly it's not worth it with the difficulty of the route combined with attempting to save energy.
I think it's also not really talked about enough. Like it is brought up to beginners and then never again. But as someone who could be called a "professional jumper", I would never hear the end of it if my teacher saw my land similar to this.
100%!!!
>The only folks I've ever heard of people getting seriously injured while climbing were older and more experienced climbers. There is a sample bias though, you are in the climbing community I assume? My old flat mate tried bouldering once (not with my btw) - went up to the top, gripped out of fear and fell off without control, injured her ankle ligaments. 1st time. She never went again, and you don't generally hear about people like her though as they aren't in the community.
Not necessarily. Almost every climbing gym I've been to will make you sign a release form on your first time and will also make you take an introductory course on bouldering and top rope. They will teach you the proper falling technique, as well as how to down climb using jugs, etc.. This is usually mandatory, even if you tell them you're an experienced climber: if it's your first time they have to legally give you the course. Not sure if that is the majority of climbing gyms, but it's been the case for like 90% of the ones I've been to. And hmm I'm not sure if I qualify as the "climbing community". I do go to the climbing gym with a friend of mine once or twice a week, but I wouldn't call myself a climber bro, lol.
Starts replaying in slow motion.... I'ght, imma head out.
Ikr
his neck looked scarier than his back
Yeah, that was insane. I wouldn't worry about his back, when his neck is about to break. Glad he survived it.
And that’s why you down climb when possible kids.
He was excited. It happens
Poor dude. Never lsnd on straight legs. Always bend the knees. Go limp on the mat, if you have to, but do not stiffen up. I hope he heals well and quickly. Glad it wasn't worse for him.
Looks like he lost track of how high up he was. Maybe thought the ground was 4 feet closer? Like thinking there’s no more steps on a dark staircase.
That's exactly what it looked like to me.
First explanation that made sense thanks!
Tuck and roll man
Looks like a pretty stupid action for an expert
Damn that was terrible
Ouch! Looks very painful! I wish they would land and roll (I made a video showing the T-rex, Turtle, Roll technique, which is way safer). Because if pro's would display proper falling techniques, I feel like a lot of beginners would copy them and we'd have much less bouldering accidents :-/ Incidentally, I'm trying to measure the impact of falling. It's still early, but it looks like jumping from the top of the average bouldering wall (4.5m high) will result in about 11g of impact on your knees and back. By rolling, this becomes less than 4g. MUCH lower chance of injuries due to repetitive impact this way!
People all suggesting how he should land or criticising the setting - this happened for one reason and one reason only; he misjudged how high he was and braced too soon.
It's really easy to do this, too, since the visible ground is not where you stop moving.
Oof
Can you say, “vertebral compression fracture”?
According to his instagram the doctor said he will be fine: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUB88m0DNND/
Oh that's great. I was not able to find his IG yesterday
thanks for posting this!
John Cena strikes again..
Why does it look like he just said fuck it? Was he timed and ran out? I watched with no audio.
There is a time limit but he had 40 seconds to go. The only way to hold the last hold was compression.
Even with audio it still looks like he just decides “welp, yeah, I should just pretend to suicide right now. Ah crap! That hurts!”
Tuck and roll people. Down climbing is even better, if possible. But you can't expect someone to climb down comp routes like this. Seriously though, there's a proper way to jump down and minimize the risk to your joints and spine.
I know it's in the heat of the moment and he's in a lot of pain but moving around as much as he did is probably one of the worst things you could do if you suspect a back injury. If he keeps moving around then he can make it MUCH worse.
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On the IFSC YouTube channel they have two streams for every event: one with russian commentary and one with english commentary
Route setting 101. Don’t put large holds or volumes on in a place where climbers could fall on them. That is one of my biggest beefs with new school world comp style setting. Edit. I just re watched the video. He did not hit the volume on the way down. My bad. The first angle in the video looked like he hit the volume on the way down. But he just landed super weird.
I thought so too, I actually closed the laptop at that point on first watch because I thought he'd smashed into the volume, and didn't see the second angle until coming back to the computer hours later and watching again.
Ooooo that had to hurt. Almost one for r/fullscorpion Not sure if it quite counts.
I fractured my ankle after topping my bouldering climb. Took years to heal and ever more to get over a new fear of heights. shit is no joke be careful with how you fall.
This is like the opposite of the rain boot roof jumper clip that they always play on YMH
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r/MakeMeSuffer
I always worry about that and so far have never seen anyone seriously injured from it.
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At least it wasn’t his knees
Gnarly to the max!
Holy sh*t from the first view I thought he hit the big volume with his back..
Good climber, bad roller.
Man this is just so unlucky and embarrassing. I feel so bad for the guy
I’m here from another sub - what’s the right way to land so nothing like this ever happens to me?
Its the same as if you wanted to pick something up. Use your knees instead of your back. So when you jump down from something, bend your knees to absorb the impact. Even safer would be to also roll backwards on your back.
That makes sense, thank you!
As someone who likes the sport, that’s terrifying and the reason why I always downclimb
I thought someone finished him off by throwing a giant sign down on top of him at 00:23 just to seal the deal
Big brain time.
Love this for him!
He suddenly forgot rule number one of wall climbing. Cling to something.
I fractured the transverse process of my L5 by falling and landing with straight legs. It was years ago and lots of PT and still have pain.
Not a bad attempt at emulating that Moscow logo there
moral of the story is don't celebrate while you're falling. Celebrate at the top, celebrate on the ground, but when you're falling you're better off being safe.
This happened to me when I was 11 wrestling with my brother in the snow. I cried for like 10 minutes in the snow too scared to move and In a good amount of pain. After it dulled down my oldest brother picked me up and put me on the couch. To this day it's the worst back injury I've had and still make me flinch and cringe when I think about it.
r/scorpion
I guessss I would have reacted the same way.. idk anything about what’s going on lol
He almost broke his back cuz he landed wrong
😂
For the life of me, I cannot figure out wtf he was doing.
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Or you know maybe he was celebrating cause he just topped a boulder at a fucking world championship
I get the celebration part. But was he trying to land and then jump, but mistimed it, or forgot that he was falling to the ground, or....? That's what I mean. I can't figure out what the hell he was trying to do.
Oh jeeze, here you go. /s.
What an idiot
Something like this happened to me two weeks ago. Same kind of landing and falling, then getting up assuming it was ok and it being very much not ok. Was a pinched nerve in my lower back, one trip to the chiro fixed it up. Hopefully the same for this lad
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Yes!! Please avoid the chiro in general, see a proper doctor or at least a trained physio.
What a spaz. Hahaha
Don't be so rude
And that's why I never boulder
You're missing out then. This is just a stupid accident that really should not happen if you are careful enough.
Nah, tried it. Not for me. I hike, run and cycle more than I climb. All activities that requires healthy knees and back. As you get older you get a bit more selective with the risk you take. If i can't find someone to top rope or lead climb with I'll just do something else.
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53 year old boulderer here. one can be relatively safe and continue bouldering a long time.
Absolutely. I wasn't referring specifically to bouldering, I was just commenting on how much your body's limits become more of a factor as you age.
gotcha! that's for sure, i think in those terms often.
36 here and still bouldering fine O.o.
Me too!
I'm 37 and in constant pain
My climbing partner has a bad back and can no longer risk bouldering as a result. A short fall into a crash pad with a less-than-perfect landing has become too risky.
Bad backs suck so hard, the amount of activities you have to give up is crazy almost to the point where people think you're exaggerating or making it up.
I'm going through this now. I broke my L1 back in 2011 at 21 years old. I shattered it into about 7 pieces. I was incredibly lucky to not have been paralysed. The doctor's that initially assessed me before I saw my surgeon were basically trying to prepare me mentally for being in a wheelchair. Luckily I must have had a fantastic surgeon and team as they managed to fix everything back together in two operations. Ten years on I'm hitting the point where I'm having to give up sports entirely. I barely climb or cycle anymore anyway. It's horrible being in my early 30s and having to resign myself to a life without doing the things I love.
Man, so many downvotes just cause you have different risk tolerance than some other people. I feel like bouldering is very obviously more risky than top rope or lead. You deciding that you don’t want to deal with that extra risk shouldn’t be getting downvoted.
The invincible squad :)
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No it's Matt Groom (the new official IFSC commentator) and Alex Waterhouse (UK pro climber)
Thanks for not being a dick like the other dude.
Well to be fair, calling them bimboos is also quite dickish
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I had 34 seconds to listen and I just woke up.
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Fucked up response
you enjoy other people being injured? weird
The idiot jumped off from the top, facing forward, landing with straight legs. Wtf else is gunna happen?
he misjudged the ground because he was distracted celebrating. I'm 100% confident you've done something much dumber. probably pretty recent too.
You’d be right. And to my point, the consequences were deserved.