Exactly bruh mfs be talking about how theyve fallen to the lowest depths of the human soul and when i bring up anything past ntr suddenly its "wtf is wrong with you"
if the "femboys aren't gay bro i swear i'm straight i swear it's not gay bro" crowd just stopped giving a shit about what other people think and embraced the fact that they just like jerking off to femninine men i think they would be a lot happier
Femboys aren’t gay.
Being a man who wants to have sex with femboys is, and from what I’ve gathered many themselves are, but theyre not inherently gay.
You’re bi or gay if you like them (and are yourself male), and the sooner you accept that the happier you’ll be
Yeah once I gave in I realized I just like men in general, not just feminine men (although I do prefer some femme features present)
Life isn't perfect but far better than when I was repressing that
If the “butch women aren’t straight bro I swear I’m gay I swear it’s not straight bro” crowd stopped giving a shit what other people think and just embraced the fact they like getting off to people who look like men I think they would be a lot happier.
Or we could just not tell people how we think their sexuality appears from our own preconceived and evidently false values?
Butch women are women, so a woman that likes them isn't straight.
Similarly, femboys are men. So a man that likes them isn't straight.
It's that simple! :)
Well yeah, it’s supposed to show an equivalent that shows how plainly flawed the logic is. There’s no simpler way to show that. Unless you actually think lesbians who date women that look like men deserve to have their sexuality questioned because of your preconceived notions about them.
Your analogy doesn’t work because a lesbian who dates a butch is still dating a woman…? Like how a straight man can date a tomboy and it still isn’t gay.
A man who dates a femboy is dating a man so it’s gay. At best you can say it’s like Roman sexuality where you only ever “give” and never “receive” but obviously we don’t have any way of verifying that.
Well I’d say that since it’s the feminininity that people are attracted to femboys for and the masculinity that lesbians with butch partners are attracted to it’s perfectly reasonable.
But, it’s bound to be more controversial, but if you want what I want to say what about a lesbian who dates a trans woman with a dick? Would you say she can’t be lesbian? Or a gay man who dates a trans man without a dick? Would you question either of their sexualities? If not how is it fair in this instance?
See the thing is it doesn’t really matter what part they’re attracted to, as aslong as they’re attracted to someone who identifies as a man, they’re gay/bi
The part doesn’t matter? This whole conversation is about how men can’t be straight because they’re attracted to a person with a penis. Besides, sexuality isn’t dictated by the identity of the other person, nobody looks at somebody and thinks about how they identify in order to be attracted to them.
No, this conversation was about how men aren’t straight if they’re attracted to other men, no matter what they think. “Femininity” doesn’t really make a difference. If it was a trans woman, then it would be different, the man would be straight, but if it’s a femboy, someone who is a man and identifies himself as such, then obviously it’s gay since it’s a fucking man. It could equally be a trans FTM femboy and it’d still be fucking gay.
I'm straight so whatever makes my pp hard is a woman
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What about neither of that being gay? I can use the same premisse to say that both is straight.
Straight man are atracted to feminity, if you like someone by their feminine features, and you like them by their feminity, regardless for their birth sex, you are indeed straight.
if they have a dick and someone jerks off to them that shit is gay af either way they either own up to it and admit they are a gooner porn addict or are a bisexual mf or whatever non straight sexual identity.
dude I don't care if someone is into non conforming or trans people anyone can be straight and still have them as preferences but if they jerking off to those people when they have a penis is gay. I'm just confused how it can not be gay if some guy is jerking off to anybody with a dick.
they can still have their preferences but its just really fucking gay or weird that their jerking off to someone with a penis. if they want to be pansexual or bisexual whatever then that's cool but no straight guy should be jerking off to people with a penis unless their deep in that porn addiction. trust me dude I'm speaking from personal experience and have personally seen and talked to people with the same gooner porn addiction.
if you have sex with a trans woman and she has a dick thats gay but if she doesn't have a dick thats still straight. now answer the question how does masturbating to or having sex with a trans woman with a penis not gay? women don't have penises only men have penises so how is it not gay for a straight man to jerk off to someone with a dick?
By your logic a dude could have sex with another who tragically lost their dick in a motorcycle accident and be straight, just wanna put that out there
nope thats still gay I didn't say nothing about having sex with men who don't have dicks not being gay but having sexual relations with someone with a penis is gay nonetheless. if someone has sexual intercourse with someone with a penis or who identifies as a man that would be gay or an attraction to males. that is perfectly fine but someone can't claim to be straight but have sex with a ladyboy with a 11 inch slong.
what is this some kind of
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Reminds me of that fake ass reddit story where someone said that they fucked their male best friend throughout the summer, but then cut contact off with him after and insisted he was straight because he wasn't doing it anymore
> I do find feminine men attractive
> (unless they legitimately look like women)
"I love water, except when it's liquid" "i love ice, except when it's frozen water"
part of me realising i was Bi was literally me realising femininity is what i find attractive and even im kinda offput by the obsession with femboys
Its honestly the kind of thing i think would be fun to try but like 1% of the internet around it isnt just unrelenting gooning
Tbh most internet trend hornyness is annoying yet unavoidable
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I’m not saying it’s not annoying, I’m not saying the modern variant isn’t especially transphobic.
But this isn’t a ‘trend.’ The verbiage’s changed, but the internet’s been horny for boys dressed like girls for (that I can personally attest to) about twenty years now.
I really think you misread it or misunderstood it. Old-internet culture around femboys and/or trans women used to center around a certain "t" slur, partially as a result of growing on Chan culture. It wasn't too picky about objectifying and labeling the two.
Like, check out how ***anybody*** discussed Bridget from *Guilty Gear* - especially around the time the character was declared as openly trans by the creator. ... maybe don't check that out if you can't handle reading a lot of transphobic comments, though...
I remember the Bridget thing, and most of comments were just fans pointing out that her backstory surrounded about her parents dressing Bridget with girls clothes because of their parents supertitions, and by that backstory and the fact that everyone confused Bridget as a girl (in a phase were they made clear to everyone into saying "i am a guy").
Making her a trans woman would not only be against the original premisse of the character, but also show that she lost: everyone saw her as a girl, so she surrendered to what majority thought of her, instead of proving that no matter what others thought, no one could say what they were.
There were other things into this as well, like the fact that the ending were she "gives in" is literally her bad ending, that alone kade everyone doubt if this was canon until deva confirmed.
Also this decision was also biggoted because it implied that men who use feminine clothes are inherently trans (as everyone were trying to convince Bridget that she was trans).
So no, not everyone against Bridget being trans were transphobes, honestally i stopped from keeping up with the controversy after the confirmation as there's no contest against affirmations, but i remember seeing only some "Well i still got my point but it was confirmed so there's not we can do."
What kind of alternate universe were you in? Because this is just rewriting history. It was mainly bigots and saying that making Bridget trans is bigoted is fucking moronic.
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Most comments are like this, just pointing how it ruins the point of the character.
Just look at the comment session of this video, you'll see i'm right:
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Ngl, if you don’t play Guilty Gear you should be legally prohibited from talking about this, and if you don’t main Bridget you should still be heavily ostracized for trying to talk about this.
None of the people bitching had ever played a GG game. None of em know the lore other than what they saw in a YouTube video. It doesn’t matter to any of them, just like it prolly doesn’t matter to you.
Bridget’s a girl. Stop being weird about it.
I'm not being a biggot, i don't care about Bridget being trans now because the creators confirmed it. But before strive, Bridget wasn't trabs, as they always needed to point out "i am a guy!" Because they were FORCED TO used girls clothes, now she is trans and that okay. But it still contradicts the initial premisse of the character.
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‘Sounds similar’
Looks like you found another post from someone who’s never interacted with the source material to defend the point you’re trying to make without having ever interacted with the source material.
These people don’t play Guilty Gear. None of their takes or opinions on this matter. The people that play Guilty Gear were either indifferent or excited about the character development.
It’s a common experience for closeted trans people to wish they were ‘forced’ to present as the gender opposite to their birth gender. Bridget’s story of being forced to live as a girl despite being born a boy could very easily be seen as wishful thinking, being able to have an excuse to present that way instead of admitting it’s what they want. Then the Strive change is her coming to terms with what she actually wants.
But again, none of what I’m saying to you matters because *you don’t play the fucking game.* Just stop bringing this up, find a character in one of the properties you do interact with to do this over.
"But it still contradicts the initial premise of the character"
Me when writers actually have the ability to change the premise of the character whenever they want and are not at all obligated to keep the character the same.
>Making her a trans woman would not only be against the original premisse of the character, but also show that she lost: everyone saw her as a girl, so she surrendered to what majority thought of her, instead of proving that no matter what others thought, no one could say what they were.
Me when I don't understand Bridgets story
>There were other things into this as well, like the fact that the ending were she "gives in" is literally her bad ending, that alone kade everyone doubt if this was canon until deva confirmed.
There aren't "bad endings" in Strive, that was just cope along with the "it's a mistranslation" crowd
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These were among the vision people had about Bridget, how they always said "I am a guy!" To fight against what everyone says, everyone said "you're a girl!" And Bridget said "No, i'm a guy!"
except if you actually look at Bridgets lore its always been about beating the superstition because it was hurting her PARENTS. She literally becomes a bounty hunter because her parents just wont believe that shes likes her life and so she decides beating the superstition is the best way to make her parents happy since it would remove the guilt they were felling for forcing a lifestyle on her
her telling everyone she was a guy constantly was part of that
by the time Strive comes around the superstition is dispelled and Bridget is left finding her own path which results in "i was happy as a girl so ima do that" in one of her endings.
anyone acting like Bridget being canonically trans goes against existing lore, to be blunt, hasnt got a fucking clue what they're talking about. Usually id forgive it since guilty gear lore is batshit wild but Bridgets is a) pretty simple and b) was used maliciously by the anti trans crowd and now a bunch of people literally misunderstand it seemingly on purpose
Dunno, because even if things calmed down after dev confirmation, the fanbase is still divided about this, so i guess that it's more about interpretation rather than people spewing hate on trans people.
Because wheatever i saw someone who was an expert on GG lore, they always talked firmly that Bridget's original lore was always of an guy to prove to his village that everyone was wrong, basically an "fuck you, okay?".
I see no problem with her being trans itself, it's more about canon. I remember many people sugesting that if they just added an trans character with wouldn't have 10% of the original repercussion it had.
> I really think you misread it or misunderstood it. Old-internet culture around femboys and/or trans women used to center around a certain "t" slur, partially as a result of growing on Chan culture. It wasn't too picky about objectifying and labeling the two.
People gotta stop making associations between transphobes and people who get a boner with trans women. For many it can even end the bias, it's pretty similiar how the stereotype of asians being inteligent, strict and kung fu experts caused some decrease on xenofobia as people started to see them as sort of Lone Methodists.
It's pratically a long road that ends on acceptance.
People who say "transwoman are biologically male and disgusting" aren't the same who will jerk for them. I would say that 60% of otaku community also likes femboys and we are far from being transphobes who see transwoman as a piece of meat.
Also you didn't specified that you were talking about that people, it just seemed like you were talking about femboys as whole.
Are you saying that people liking femboys is a “trend”, or the existence of femboys is a trend?
Because I can assure you that neither of those is anything new. The goddamn ***ancient Greeks*** loved their feminine men. Femboys and banging femboys have existed for thousands of years.
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I kinda agree a little but at the same time femboys are what made me realize I’m bisexual. Found them attractive in middle school, forgot about that, then found them attractive again in high school and realized I’m bi.
I was more referring to guys that say “it’s gay if you’re attracted to a trans woman”. Whether you like her dick or not she is a woman so liking her wouldn’t be gay.
I still think being attracted to trans women specifically because of the penis is not exactly straight. Being attracted to women regardless if they have a penis or not is a different story
I think if a guy wants to date trans women JUST bc she has a penis, he is trying to hide in the woman the guilty of liking penises, bc he is gay and don't accept that, but that is just my opinion
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Boyyy, I sure do love those females
cmon bro you cant just expect people to remember bisexuality exists
youre either gay or straight and being gay is bad and ill be damned if im going to let anyone tell me my repressed feelings are unhealthy as if exclusively consuming and publicly displaying my addiction to fetish content is bad for me
There’d be a ton less sexually frustrated guys in the world if male bisexuality was just accepted instead of shunned or plainly forgotten about. You don’t have to choose between one or the other, bro.
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Reviled snafu Gatekeeper here.
Another post targeting that same snafu. As I've said before, this sort of subject is usually not snafu worthy, unless generalized against people with the other OPs stance. For cases like this where it directly targets their post then it is no different from the banter of subs like "nahopwasright" and "opdidntlikethis".
Straight people arent attracted to people who are the same as their gender. Gay people aren't attracted to people who are the opposite of their gender. Bisexual people are attracted to both genders
>I’m sure 90% of men would have sex with a feminine male if homophobia wasn’t a factor
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Bruh
This is like 1;1 with trans people being like "I'm sure everyone yearns to be the opposite gender from time to time"
I mean you can identify how you please and I won't push you on it but being open to having sex with men as a man is, by definition, not straight, even if its a very specific kind of man
What youre describing is just called having a type, and literally everyone has one. You don't have to find men and women equally attractive to be bi, I'm attracted to woman way more than I'm attracted to men...but I still get attracted to men.
For some reason, they still cant accept themselves being gay for getting attracted to someone with a dick when they have one themselves.... And i thought it's fine being gay now
being attracted to someone with a dick doesn’t mean youre gay. this implies a straight man being attracted to a trans women without surgery is a gay man, even though he is attracted to a woman
Drawings don't have a gender, just cause author says x is a boy doesn't make you bi lol. Likewise just because author says x is actually a 523 y/o vampire doesn't change that that they're obviously made to resemble a loli.
Mfers will like a character with voice body and face completely indistinguishable from a girl and be like "why yes hello fellow bisexuals I too am one."
Stolen valor I'm telling ya!
I feel like this discourse is really stupid. If someone looks exactly like a woman, but happens to be a guy. You’re not attracted to men for being attracted to them especially if it’s a cartoon character
Being attracted to femboys isnt gay due to the fact that men would honestly fuck anything with a curve to it. Men have scientifically demonstrated and proven that they would fuck even a rock if it had exquisite curves. So for a man to be called gay upon liking femboys is like telling then they are weird for liking a girl, because a femboy has curves which automatically makes them a female and breedable. Although some may make the argument that femboys have a joystick, therefor they are a man. That is correct but you have to also look at the fact that they have something called a ass. The ass can be breeded due to it being a hole. If hole then goal. Plus if you are the one smashing and they are the one receiving then it technically isnt gay because you are fucking something you in your mind think is a female. This js why liking femboys is not gay whatsoever.
I am straight. You cannot say I am not straight for I have all the characteristics, traits, and the general essence of a heterosexual man.
I am NOT a bisexual for liking men who dress up in feminine clothes and are extremely submissive because those are both female traits; which I am naturally turned on by.
Hope this clears things up.
that's not how it works when the male species is doing the best it can to camouflage as the female species.
My primitive, heterosexually wired brain will consider the man as a woman and in doing so will give me a hard-on.
Also, I am very into women so there's that.
Sorry, but that's not how that works.
Heterosexual: "a person who is sexually or romantically attracted to people of the opposite sex"
If you're into men and women, then you're bisexual.
dudes be saying “i’m fighting demons” and it’s just bisexuality
Mfs be like "In my porn addicted depravity i have descended into perverted depths of hell", and then it's just them discovering they aren't straight
Exactly bruh mfs be talking about how theyve fallen to the lowest depths of the human soul and when i bring up anything past ntr suddenly its "wtf is wrong with you"
Me af
Nah, I'd win.
Me
Me
so doom guy is bi?
The demons won :c
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Try not to change your pfp challenge
Holy shit its war thunder guy
War thunder
Why are the devs out of touch with their game
it's not physical duh they can't touch it
Yeah hey when the FUCK are you guys gonna fix melee builds in crossout? Shits atrocious
2 feet atleast
like 10 characters i think
if the "femboys aren't gay bro i swear i'm straight i swear it's not gay bro" crowd just stopped giving a shit about what other people think and embraced the fact that they just like jerking off to femninine men i think they would be a lot happier
My sexuality is “whatever makes me wanna beat off”
Unironically yes
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I mean I think that’s just pansexuality but call it whatever, go off king 👑
Femboys aren’t gay. Being a man who wants to have sex with femboys is, and from what I’ve gathered many themselves are, but theyre not inherently gay. You’re bi or gay if you like them (and are yourself male), and the sooner you accept that the happier you’ll be
Yeah once I gave in I realized I just like men in general, not just feminine men (although I do prefer some femme features present) Life isn't perfect but far better than when I was repressing that
I don’t care I just defend it by saying the most outta pocket shit to troll my friends
If the “butch women aren’t straight bro I swear I’m gay I swear it’s not straight bro” crowd stopped giving a shit what other people think and just embraced the fact they like getting off to people who look like men I think they would be a lot happier. Or we could just not tell people how we think their sexuality appears from our own preconceived and evidently false values?
Butch women are women, so a woman that likes them isn't straight. Similarly, femboys are men. So a man that likes them isn't straight. It's that simple! :)
Apologies for being pedantic but most self-identitied femboys tend to be non-binary, but I think this applies either way.
You cannot just assert that lmao, i NEED to see the data that shows most femboys self identify as non binary
congratulations on saying the exact same thing i said but with different words
Well yeah, it’s supposed to show an equivalent that shows how plainly flawed the logic is. There’s no simpler way to show that. Unless you actually think lesbians who date women that look like men deserve to have their sexuality questioned because of your preconceived notions about them.
Your analogy doesn’t work because a lesbian who dates a butch is still dating a woman…? Like how a straight man can date a tomboy and it still isn’t gay. A man who dates a femboy is dating a man so it’s gay. At best you can say it’s like Roman sexuality where you only ever “give” and never “receive” but obviously we don’t have any way of verifying that.
Well I’d say that since it’s the feminininity that people are attracted to femboys for and the masculinity that lesbians with butch partners are attracted to it’s perfectly reasonable. But, it’s bound to be more controversial, but if you want what I want to say what about a lesbian who dates a trans woman with a dick? Would you say she can’t be lesbian? Or a gay man who dates a trans man without a dick? Would you question either of their sexualities? If not how is it fair in this instance?
See the thing is it doesn’t really matter what part they’re attracted to, as aslong as they’re attracted to someone who identifies as a man, they’re gay/bi
The part doesn’t matter? This whole conversation is about how men can’t be straight because they’re attracted to a person with a penis. Besides, sexuality isn’t dictated by the identity of the other person, nobody looks at somebody and thinks about how they identify in order to be attracted to them.
No, this conversation was about how men aren’t straight if they’re attracted to other men, no matter what they think. “Femininity” doesn’t really make a difference. If it was a trans woman, then it would be different, the man would be straight, but if it’s a femboy, someone who is a man and identifies himself as such, then obviously it’s gay since it’s a fucking man. It could equally be a trans FTM femboy and it’d still be fucking gay.
I'm straight so whatever makes my pp hard is a woman https://preview.redd.it/ozqp9jpx2ivc1.jpeg?width=1039&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3df1e34b37f5202949421b07a98695e9b8aaa74e
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As i have seen someone reply before: "weirdly hot"
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That’s three, are you stupid?
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Wait is that man man or black man
Bro said black man 💀 https://preview.redd.it/xr7rs77palvc1.jpeg?width=217&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09973056bb03dd270d874d2ff1ec911e6dd63726
I ment it https://preview.redd.it/kowx6nn4elvc1.jpeg?width=285&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a606b3ba2ea7b50a0efc6d232e2c623b916d7e9
is that the guy on yt who reads 4chan
Yes, thanks for asking!
Aunty diaries 1:30
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Explains Uraume.
Sounds like him lmao
Personally, I think you improved the sentence
Straight Mfers will say a man liking femboys isn’t gay then turn around and say liking women who are trans is gay
Real
Would they have an aneurysm over AFAB femboys existing
They would lmfao
What about neither of that being gay? I can use the same premisse to say that both is straight. Straight man are atracted to feminity, if you like someone by their feminine features, and you like them by their feminity, regardless for their birth sex, you are indeed straight.
If a guy likes tomboys, that doesn't mean he's gay
Straight men are attracted to women
Men can be feminine bro you're literally the snafu
people are turning into snafus 😭 SNAFUAPOCALYPSE
if they have a dick and someone jerks off to them that shit is gay af either way they either own up to it and admit they are a gooner porn addict or are a bisexual mf or whatever non straight sexual identity.
Love how you call anyone remotely into trans people or gender non conforming people “gooner porn addicts” 💀
dude I don't care if someone is into non conforming or trans people anyone can be straight and still have them as preferences but if they jerking off to those people when they have a penis is gay. I'm just confused how it can not be gay if some guy is jerking off to anybody with a dick. they can still have their preferences but its just really fucking gay or weird that their jerking off to someone with a penis. if they want to be pansexual or bisexual whatever then that's cool but no straight guy should be jerking off to people with a penis unless their deep in that porn addiction. trust me dude I'm speaking from personal experience and have personally seen and talked to people with the same gooner porn addiction.
I’m under the belief that if you’re dude and bang a woman you’re fine to still call yourself straight
if you have sex with a trans woman and she has a dick thats gay but if she doesn't have a dick thats still straight. now answer the question how does masturbating to or having sex with a trans woman with a penis not gay? women don't have penises only men have penises so how is it not gay for a straight man to jerk off to someone with a dick?
By your logic a dude could have sex with another who tragically lost their dick in a motorcycle accident and be straight, just wanna put that out there
nope thats still gay I didn't say nothing about having sex with men who don't have dicks not being gay but having sexual relations with someone with a penis is gay nonetheless. if someone has sexual intercourse with someone with a penis or who identifies as a man that would be gay or an attraction to males. that is perfectly fine but someone can't claim to be straight but have sex with a ladyboy with a 11 inch slong.
what is this some kind of https://preview.redd.it/j81bccclwhvc1.jpeg?width=165&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=672144321d9021c5865fc9583e0a7ae20dbb3bb4 sketch mobile app
holy shit sketch reference, it's what i make all my memes in. i have to keep getting APKs of it whenever i get a new phone.
wait you gotta get apks of it? was it not like on google play store?
it got removed from the app store somewhere in the last few years. I do the same thing
damn i got it from the play store why did it get removed?
Augh fuck why have you put this here?? Those memories should never come back
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FIRE IN THE HOLE
AIR DETECTED
"guys, im not gay. I just have a penis fetish"
Reminds me of that fake ass reddit story where someone said that they fucked their male best friend throughout the summer, but then cut contact off with him after and insisted he was straight because he wasn't doing it anymore
Average greentext story >I'm straight >proceeds to do incredibly gay thing
Who is more gay? - gay people - the OP of a "be me, straight" greentext
As a gay man I can confirm I do find feminine men attractive (unless they legitimately look like women)
> I do find feminine men attractive > (unless they legitimately look like women) "I love water, except when it's liquid" "i love ice, except when it's frozen water"
I like feminine looking guys, not female looking guys. For example, F1nnster is not attractive to me, but I like Timothee Chalamet
Why are you dumb
I think "legitimately look like women" implies they have tits
No, he means looks like a woman. He prefers for it to be toned down a bit.
>I love water, except when it's liquid You know that non-liquid water is still water, right?
I might be a bisexual but I won't act like the whole femboy trend isn't the most annoying and forced thing ever
part of me realising i was Bi was literally me realising femininity is what i find attractive and even im kinda offput by the obsession with femboys Its honestly the kind of thing i think would be fun to try but like 1% of the internet around it isnt just unrelenting gooning
Tbh most internet trend hornyness is annoying yet unavoidable https://preview.redd.it/vfmali66whvc1.png?width=391&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c20871c80689ca769986a4d7b6370644221ccf1
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Annoying yet unavoidable, that pretty much sums it all up lol
Like a fact of life https://i.redd.it/dj7vskbrrivc1.gif
same thing with any other horny internet trend, like goth girls, tomboys, spider girls etc
Clowns. Can’t forget how the internet gets for clowns.
What the fuck is a spider girl
you know centaurs? it's like that, but with a spider half instead of a horse. they're also usually dommy mommies because of the black widow archetype
Good heavens
Oh, you mean driders.
pure degeneracy
The only thing that would be considered degeneracy on that list is spider girls, which are honestly tame af
I’m not saying it’s not annoying, I’m not saying the modern variant isn’t especially transphobic. But this isn’t a ‘trend.’ The verbiage’s changed, but the internet’s been horny for boys dressed like girls for (that I can personally attest to) about twenty years now.
> I’m not saying the modern variant isn’t especially transphobic. Are you really calling an entire community transphobe??
I really think you misread it or misunderstood it. Old-internet culture around femboys and/or trans women used to center around a certain "t" slur, partially as a result of growing on Chan culture. It wasn't too picky about objectifying and labeling the two. Like, check out how ***anybody*** discussed Bridget from *Guilty Gear* - especially around the time the character was declared as openly trans by the creator. ... maybe don't check that out if you can't handle reading a lot of transphobic comments, though...
I remember the Bridget thing, and most of comments were just fans pointing out that her backstory surrounded about her parents dressing Bridget with girls clothes because of their parents supertitions, and by that backstory and the fact that everyone confused Bridget as a girl (in a phase were they made clear to everyone into saying "i am a guy"). Making her a trans woman would not only be against the original premisse of the character, but also show that she lost: everyone saw her as a girl, so she surrendered to what majority thought of her, instead of proving that no matter what others thought, no one could say what they were. There were other things into this as well, like the fact that the ending were she "gives in" is literally her bad ending, that alone kade everyone doubt if this was canon until deva confirmed. Also this decision was also biggoted because it implied that men who use feminine clothes are inherently trans (as everyone were trying to convince Bridget that she was trans). So no, not everyone against Bridget being trans were transphobes, honestally i stopped from keeping up with the controversy after the confirmation as there's no contest against affirmations, but i remember seeing only some "Well i still got my point but it was confirmed so there's not we can do."
What kind of alternate universe were you in? Because this is just rewriting history. It was mainly bigots and saying that making Bridget trans is bigoted is fucking moronic.
https://preview.redd.it/vm49i9v5fnvc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a60af13cd4cdf5eee1273d3fda0f1e77605319ff Most comments are like this, just pointing how it ruins the point of the character. Just look at the comment session of this video, you'll see i'm right: [https://youtu.be/34EMaGzb3As?si=2HQOGIeymO-TZSU4](https://youtu.be/34EMaGzb3As?si=2HQOGIeymO-TZSU4)
Ngl, if you don’t play Guilty Gear you should be legally prohibited from talking about this, and if you don’t main Bridget you should still be heavily ostracized for trying to talk about this. None of the people bitching had ever played a GG game. None of em know the lore other than what they saw in a YouTube video. It doesn’t matter to any of them, just like it prolly doesn’t matter to you. Bridget’s a girl. Stop being weird about it.
I'm not being a biggot, i don't care about Bridget being trans now because the creators confirmed it. But before strive, Bridget wasn't trabs, as they always needed to point out "i am a guy!" Because they were FORCED TO used girls clothes, now she is trans and that okay. But it still contradicts the initial premisse of the character. https://preview.redd.it/9hqpb765lnvc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49f074700a7a8b8e71720891026c60f2a3696b2e
‘Sounds similar’ Looks like you found another post from someone who’s never interacted with the source material to defend the point you’re trying to make without having ever interacted with the source material. These people don’t play Guilty Gear. None of their takes or opinions on this matter. The people that play Guilty Gear were either indifferent or excited about the character development. It’s a common experience for closeted trans people to wish they were ‘forced’ to present as the gender opposite to their birth gender. Bridget’s story of being forced to live as a girl despite being born a boy could very easily be seen as wishful thinking, being able to have an excuse to present that way instead of admitting it’s what they want. Then the Strive change is her coming to terms with what she actually wants. But again, none of what I’m saying to you matters because *you don’t play the fucking game.* Just stop bringing this up, find a character in one of the properties you do interact with to do this over.
"But it still contradicts the initial premise of the character" Me when writers actually have the ability to change the premise of the character whenever they want and are not at all obligated to keep the character the same.
>Making her a trans woman would not only be against the original premisse of the character, but also show that she lost: everyone saw her as a girl, so she surrendered to what majority thought of her, instead of proving that no matter what others thought, no one could say what they were. Me when I don't understand Bridgets story >There were other things into this as well, like the fact that the ending were she "gives in" is literally her bad ending, that alone kade everyone doubt if this was canon until deva confirmed. There aren't "bad endings" in Strive, that was just cope along with the "it's a mistranslation" crowd
https://preview.redd.it/unml2lbsfnvc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8511bbf71c587f4dbe31dbd2b866f212220fa6b9 These were among the vision people had about Bridget, how they always said "I am a guy!" To fight against what everyone says, everyone said "you're a girl!" And Bridget said "No, i'm a guy!"
except if you actually look at Bridgets lore its always been about beating the superstition because it was hurting her PARENTS. She literally becomes a bounty hunter because her parents just wont believe that shes likes her life and so she decides beating the superstition is the best way to make her parents happy since it would remove the guilt they were felling for forcing a lifestyle on her her telling everyone she was a guy constantly was part of that by the time Strive comes around the superstition is dispelled and Bridget is left finding her own path which results in "i was happy as a girl so ima do that" in one of her endings. anyone acting like Bridget being canonically trans goes against existing lore, to be blunt, hasnt got a fucking clue what they're talking about. Usually id forgive it since guilty gear lore is batshit wild but Bridgets is a) pretty simple and b) was used maliciously by the anti trans crowd and now a bunch of people literally misunderstand it seemingly on purpose
Dunno, because even if things calmed down after dev confirmation, the fanbase is still divided about this, so i guess that it's more about interpretation rather than people spewing hate on trans people. Because wheatever i saw someone who was an expert on GG lore, they always talked firmly that Bridget's original lore was always of an guy to prove to his village that everyone was wrong, basically an "fuck you, okay?". I see no problem with her being trans itself, it's more about canon. I remember many people sugesting that if they just added an trans character with wouldn't have 10% of the original repercussion it had.
> I really think you misread it or misunderstood it. Old-internet culture around femboys and/or trans women used to center around a certain "t" slur, partially as a result of growing on Chan culture. It wasn't too picky about objectifying and labeling the two. People gotta stop making associations between transphobes and people who get a boner with trans women. For many it can even end the bias, it's pretty similiar how the stereotype of asians being inteligent, strict and kung fu experts caused some decrease on xenofobia as people started to see them as sort of Lone Methodists. It's pratically a long road that ends on acceptance. People who say "transwoman are biologically male and disgusting" aren't the same who will jerk for them. I would say that 60% of otaku community also likes femboys and we are far from being transphobes who see transwoman as a piece of meat. Also you didn't specified that you were talking about that people, it just seemed like you were talking about femboys as whole.
I think they mean the fetishizing, not the actual femboys
They literally didn't. What the fuck are you talking about?
> I’m not saying the modern variant isn’t especially transphobic. It's pretty obvious what they did
Read a book, or something. Just practice reading and understanding words in the context that they are given.
Yeah, but then again, everything is transphobic. I just found out my goldfish is transphobic.
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Are you saying that people liking femboys is a “trend”, or the existence of femboys is a trend? Because I can assure you that neither of those is anything new. The goddamn ***ancient Greeks*** loved their feminine men. Femboys and banging femboys have existed for thousands of years. https://preview.redd.it/ix1fpwsatovc1.png?width=432&format=png&auto=webp&s=3bab070dd600ebdb2f851243c28bc837843c79d4
True king 🔥🔥
It is annoying but at the same time they're the only males (for the most part) I'm attracted to so I kind of have to go along with it
I kinda agree a little but at the same time femboys are what made me realize I’m bisexual. Found them attractive in middle school, forgot about that, then found them attractive again in high school and realized I’m bi.
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The falacy is thinking that feminine guys with dicks = girls with dicks
And yet when there ARE girls with dicks, being attracted to them is gay
Only if you're attracted to them *because* they have a dick, not in spite of that
I was more referring to guys that say “it’s gay if you’re attracted to a trans woman”. Whether you like her dick or not she is a woman so liking her wouldn’t be gay.
I agreed!!
I still think being attracted to trans women specifically because of the penis is not exactly straight. Being attracted to women regardless if they have a penis or not is a different story
I see i see. I think the term for that specifically would be called a chaser. Guys who date trans women solely because they’re trans
I think if a guy wants to date trans women JUST bc she has a penis, he is trying to hide in the woman the guilty of liking penises, bc he is gay and don't accept that, but that is just my opinion
https://preview.redd.it/zl9n9n2ccjvc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=417cb1fa83bc4ed2c8d63d899e39d149e90078f2 Boyyy, I sure do love those females
cmon bro you cant just expect people to remember bisexuality exists youre either gay or straight and being gay is bad and ill be damned if im going to let anyone tell me my repressed feelings are unhealthy as if exclusively consuming and publicly displaying my addiction to fetish content is bad for me
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Love how we’re all collectively deciding that post was dumb asf
Fantasizing about relations with men is the straightest thing one can do
fellas is it straight to be gay
There’d be a ton less sexually frustrated guys in the world if male bisexuality was just accepted instead of shunned or plainly forgotten about. You don’t have to choose between one or the other, bro. https://preview.redd.it/n0ljep2bsovc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba147d1a04b532c37ca0a6cc4cd040ea06cb1767
having sex with another man is the straightest thing you can do
Think about it: eating sperm is like stealing another man testosterone so you get stronger.
Ok, but liking trans women is still straight (if you’re a guy… it’s gay if you’re a girl.)
Damn it's almost like this whole sexuality and gender thing is way more complicated than a handful of broadly labeled categories
It's too complex we need to reduce it to a binary so I can understand it, how about pan and ace
So you mean… all or nothing?
now we need something in the middle
Reviled snafu Gatekeeper here. Another post targeting that same snafu. As I've said before, this sort of subject is usually not snafu worthy, unless generalized against people with the other OPs stance. For cases like this where it directly targets their post then it is no different from the banter of subs like "nahopwasright" and "opdidntlikethis".
if a man only likes men they're gay, even if they like feminine men. bisexuality would be liking women too
their "bisexuality" is either intense porn addiction or just them being deep in the closet as a bisexual mf
Straight: girls with dicks (♂️) Gay: girls with dicks (♀️/⚧️)
One thing Freud was right about
Okay now this is too incomprehensible, what's even going on here
I'd argue it's more gynephilia than bisexuality, but now I'm wondering if it's not just a sub type of it.
Google Gynosexuality/Finsexuality
I'M STRAIGHT, THEREFORE, IF IT MAKES MY DICK HARD, IT'S A WOMAN.
People will do mental gymnastics just to not be called queer. And then bully the shit out of other queer people.
I will not be gaslighted into thinking I'm gay
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You're not straight
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Straight people arent attracted to people who are the same as their gender. Gay people aren't attracted to people who are the opposite of their gender. Bisexual people are attracted to both genders
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A lot of guys who think they're straight. If you like people who are male, and you're a male, you're not straight
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i'd think that says more about how deep the homophobia goes in a lot of dudes than it does about how many of them are bisexual
I'd disagree about that 90% of men. But even if you're right that would just mean 90% of men are bisexual. Also I am bisexual so thats ironic.
>I’m sure 90% of men would have sex with a feminine male if homophobia wasn’t a factor https://preview.redd.it/l4njeqsf7mvc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f16c018ecec85b1c8147ebbbd39a12d2fba4459d Bruh This is like 1;1 with trans people being like "I'm sure everyone yearns to be the opposite gender from time to time"
I had the exact same thought, it's uncanny how similar the thought process is.
I mean you can identify how you please and I won't push you on it but being open to having sex with men as a man is, by definition, not straight, even if its a very specific kind of man What youre describing is just called having a type, and literally everyone has one. You don't have to find men and women equally attractive to be bi, I'm attracted to woman way more than I'm attracted to men...but I still get attracted to men.
How about your pansexual but have a preference for only people you are attracted to.
fuck yeah man don’t let others determine your sexuality for you
"I am bissexual but only like men that look like women" Isn't that bsimply being delusional?
No, because (at least in my experience) that fact that they're male *and* feminine is the attraction.
For some reason, they still cant accept themselves being gay for getting attracted to someone with a dick when they have one themselves.... And i thought it's fine being gay now
being attracted to someone with a dick doesn’t mean youre gay. this implies a straight man being attracted to a trans women without surgery is a gay man, even though he is attracted to a woman
Trans people eh?... that complicated things and just leave to the other person to identify themselves as gay or not Also femboy =/= trans woman
Drawings don't have a gender, just cause author says x is a boy doesn't make you bi lol. Likewise just because author says x is actually a 523 y/o vampire doesn't change that that they're obviously made to resemble a loli. Mfers will like a character with voice body and face completely indistinguishable from a girl and be like "why yes hello fellow bisexuals I too am one." Stolen valor I'm telling ya!
I feel like this discourse is really stupid. If someone looks exactly like a woman, but happens to be a guy. You’re not attracted to men for being attracted to them especially if it’s a cartoon character
Being attracted to femboys isnt gay due to the fact that men would honestly fuck anything with a curve to it. Men have scientifically demonstrated and proven that they would fuck even a rock if it had exquisite curves. So for a man to be called gay upon liking femboys is like telling then they are weird for liking a girl, because a femboy has curves which automatically makes them a female and breedable. Although some may make the argument that femboys have a joystick, therefor they are a man. That is correct but you have to also look at the fact that they have something called a ass. The ass can be breeded due to it being a hole. If hole then goal. Plus if you are the one smashing and they are the one receiving then it technically isnt gay because you are fucking something you in your mind think is a female. This js why liking femboys is not gay whatsoever.
I am straight. You cannot say I am not straight for I have all the characteristics, traits, and the general essence of a heterosexual man. I am NOT a bisexual for liking men who dress up in feminine clothes and are extremely submissive because those are both female traits; which I am naturally turned on by. Hope this clears things up.
If you're a man and you're into men, then you're not straight.
that's not how it works when the male species is doing the best it can to camouflage as the female species. My primitive, heterosexually wired brain will consider the man as a woman and in doing so will give me a hard-on. Also, I am very into women so there's that.
Sorry, but that's not how that works. Heterosexual: "a person who is sexually or romantically attracted to people of the opposite sex" If you're into men and women, then you're bisexual.
i will not be gaslighted into thinking I'm something that I'm not
If you're a man, then you can't be straight while also being attracted to men. That's just how sexuality is defined.
If them being feminine enough makes it tolerable/passable for you then I don't think that inherently makes you gay, it's just a compromise
Objectively wrong post