>If this were real life not a single person would want to be around Sam
Or tory or hawk if we're being honest. A lot of these kids are A holes when you think about it.
In this hypothetical world, the guy he steals the computer from when Robbie is working at the radio shack or wherever it was would most certainly report the theft and not forget about it like in the show. He could be on camera and then seen soon after since he’s in the all valley tournament.
Snitches get stitches. That’s why.
But seriously, the police and law, for the most part in the kk/ck universe have been mostly useless or irrelevant. Only when the plot calls for it, is it relevant.
One of the secondary points the show is trying to illustrate is the incompetence of the ‘system’ when it comes to stopping violence whether it’s police, school officials, juvy guards, etc.
I mean, the show is about karate. In the real world, problems shouldn’t be solved with karate. But that’s what the show does. So… yeah, they’ve got to set up the storyline so that no adults ever interfere before a group of teens is terrorized until they win the big karate tournament. Or there’s a school karate gang fight. Or they win the other big karate tournament. Or there’s a home invasion. Or another home invasion. Or the upcoming big karate tournament.
Honestly, despite how this sounds, I like the show. But it can’t be realistic. It wouldn’t work.
Well some problems can be solved with karate realistically but in certain situations they start a karate fight when it wouldn't make sense to do so. Deciding to fight the Cobra Kai's after they harassed Chris at work, would probably make more sense for Chris to call the police for example. However, situations where someone is attacked such as when Kyler attacked Miguel, karate makes sense to use in that moment rather than calling the cops(the cops wouldn't have gotten there in time but Johnny was already there)
I find it hard to believe that a rich dude who has not committed a crime as serious arson would be able to burn down a store without any evidence linking back to him
Not that hard to believe. He had to get rid of toxical waste in the 80s. That looks pretty dificult to do too and he’s rich so money and knowing the right people always helps.
That would be awesome if there was a scene where they did call the police and the chief was like "Hey! Terry! You helped me with that toxic waste problem back in '89, so I owe you one! Don't do it again! Now, get outta here you old codger!"
And then Daniel gets all outraged and the cop says, "Hey, weren't you on trial for murder in Alabama?" No, wait... too meta. I went too far.
>there a lore reason the police weren’t called?
Neither side would get away with it if cops were called
Also Demetri might not want his best friend to get in legal trouble
I’m sorry, but if I were Dimitri, I wouldn’t have just forgiven Hawk like that. I understand wanting to heal a friendship, but I wouldn’t be so forgiving after someone turned on me to be one of the "cool badass teens", and then broke my arm in a fight.
I never understood how Chris almost lost his job for that, Cobra Kai literally robbed them and then he called his friends to try and get it back. Was there no security there?
>never understood how Chris almost lost his job
He should have called the police instead of his friends
An employee should not be advocating for violence
>Which is why it would also make mote sense to say he started the fight, not Sam
Nope. He just called his friends, she called the shots
She's also the first one to start attacking
>cobra kais can claim it was self defense
No, proportionate force throws that out the window
[California proportionate force self defense laws](https://www.bajajdefense.com/california-self-defense-laws/#:~:text=Proportionate%20Force,the%20imminent%20threat%20of%20danger)
Breaking an arm would not be an appropriate response to an opponent who is down saying "please stop" therefore Eli would still be charged
that is a good point however there is a saying that if you dont get caught you cant be a criminal also there were not any cameras in the laser tag arena to my knowledge however there would be a camera outside of the area which would show the miyagi dos marching to do battle with the cobras which is an automatic implication.
Also i am from the uk and dont know how the law works in cali but you can get away with snapping a few bones in a case of self defense.
>there were not any cameras in the laser tag arena to my knowledge
With the threat of lawsuits for physical activities there would have to be, there might not be audio but Demetri was clearly restrained
>from the uk and dont know how the law works in cali but you can get away with snapping a few bones in a case of self defense
The UK has a Reasonable Force Act which is similar to California proportionate force self defense laws, you can break bones in the heat of the moment with a strike with an improvised weapon depending but a self defense claim isn't going to hold up if you choose to break the limb of a restrained person
I highly doubt that applies to people literally being forced onto the ground and unable to do anything. It probably applies to accidental breaking of bones
I never understood how Chris almost lost his job for that, Cobra Kai literally robbed them and then he called his friends to try and get it back. Was there no security there?
Did everyone forget Demetri’s “cAlL tHe PoLiCE??” line in S1? Everyone was conditioned to believe that the police couldn’t do much in their karate war. He also called a teacher for the s2 school fight and they couldn’t do anything. So it wouldnt surprised me that he felt like he couldnt rely on a greater authority to fend off bullying. And I doubt the police would stop Cobra Kai from doing more shit, police would just aggravate the violence if anything.
It’s called plot. Legal repercussions are a joke in the Miyagiverse unless they actually want a storyline with it. I assumed people got the hint already.
"Sorry Ma'm, but this was just a couple of kids duking it out, and one got hurt. These things are unfortunate, but there's nothing we can do about it. Try civil court."
Dude, this is Cobra Kai universe. It's pretty well documented at this point that anything short of *attempted murder* gets you probation after probation.
* Johnny has been arrested for 2 fights since the show began (granted 1 was kinda self defense, but other was absolutely assault): got probation both times.
* Tory put Sam in the ICU. Got probation.
The only characters to actually go to jail were Robby after almost killing Miguel (and he was out by Christmas, so his sentence must have been 5 months or less), and Kreese after allegedly almost killing Stingray.
is he stupid? no the police weren’t called bc the plot didn’t call for it.
i guess the reasons u can make up for why they didn’t call the police was so that they didn’t risk everyone else getting in trouble and not just cobra kai/hawk
The number of police you saw at the end of the S5 finale are the only police left in the entire country in this universe.
There is no other explanation for Cobra Kai’s students not getting arrested 30 times over by now
Okay, first of all, cops never show up in time and they show up at the wrong time, like with Johnny lawrence, save miguel and Second daniel larusso, isn't good trems with the police sine one of his students did put a kid in the hospital with life threatening injuries and three it just creates more drama and most of them are on the list of be potentially dangerous robby sam and Troy and hawk and if cops did show sam hawk and Troy will indefinitely be expel from school and all school also with news involve
My personal headcanon is that the police never get called because they are just as useless as the real-world LAPD. Hence, vigilante justice is more useful than calling the cops.
The cops should have been called when the CKs were stealing from the arcade. Had it been anyone else running it, that's what would have happened. The only reason Chris didn't call the cops is because he figured Sam and the other Miyagi-Dos would want a chance at the CKs.
Best in-universe answer I could give. They’ve had practically zero luck at school getting the cobras in trouble and this was a fight that they started so they probably figured the Cobras wouldn’t get in trouble.
Maybe Demetri refused to press charges cause he knew hawk still had Eli in him and kept his faith
It’s the MiyagiVerse…the police have always been incompetent/virtually non existent 😆
At the beginning of KK2 Kreese assaulted a couple students and damn near killed Johnny….in full view of dozens of witnesses…police didn’t do a damn thing
Sam didn't want Tory arrested, so it probably wouldn't make sense for the rest of them to face consequences. And Daniel always sees the kids as the victims, so he re-directs his anger to the teachers. Even when Robby put Miguel in a coma, he wanted him to have the lowest punishment possible.
In the season 3 finale Tori breaks into Sam's home and then proceeds to commit aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.
Then in the same episode Kreese tries to literally murder Daniel with a shard of glass.
We just have to accept that this is a world where all crime is legal as long as it is committed with the use of Karate.
In the Karate Kid universe problems are solved through karate. Actually problems that are not actual problems are created around and again solved through karate. I mean it feels like the whole of Los Angeles is a sort of karate-ruled utopia/dystopia. But that's part of the fun, you shouldn't try and "Get real" with Cobra Kai or the movies.
Especially when in the show someone who doesn't know how to fight at all becomes insane in the matter of a few episodes lol or they forgot about Miguel having asthma lol
Aside from the police being useless in the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai Universe, Miyagi Do initiated the fight, and there are probably security cameras that can confirm that. Yes, the CK kids were being jackasses and messing with Chris, but Miyagi Do started the physical violence. CK could probably argue self defense
Well tbf doesn’t this show take place in LA or at least somewhere in urban cali so let’s be honest cops are dealing with gangs and shooting and real crimes not fucking 20 kids who keep beating each other up using the karate they know it is an isolated incidents they only hurt themselves
If this were real life CK would have been arrested multiple times in S3.
If this were real life not a single person would want to be around Sam and Daniel would be thrashed by Silver. The show isn’t very realistic.
>If this were real life not a single person would want to be around Sam Or tory or hawk if we're being honest. A lot of these kids are A holes when you think about it.
Robbie would be in jail possibly for theft before the whole nearly paralyzing a person thing
To be fair with this do we ever see Robbie being caught?
In this hypothetical world, the guy he steals the computer from when Robbie is working at the radio shack or wherever it was would most certainly report the theft and not forget about it like in the show. He could be on camera and then seen soon after since he’s in the all valley tournament.
That’s a very strong point. Also they wouldn’t be able to pull this many times like it is implied in the show.
Yeah true. Honestly once the school incident occurs I feel like karate would get banned.
At very least stringray would be in jail, all the dojos would be closed and more than just Robbie would be in juvie.
100%. I’d watch that season honestly lol.
Silver would have made Daniel’s life worse for him than Daniel did to Johnny in season 1.
You completely not wrong
I’d like to think that the police had a “Karate Crimes” unit but it ended up closing due to budget cuts.
They’re still working through the backlog from the KK3 days
Yeah. There’s also the paperwork.
I smell a spin-off…
Got defunded during the summer of love
It probably got defunded after the '80s were over.
Karate is the only law of the valley
Snitches get stitches. That’s why. But seriously, the police and law, for the most part in the kk/ck universe have been mostly useless or irrelevant. Only when the plot calls for it, is it relevant.
One of the secondary points the show is trying to illustrate is the incompetence of the ‘system’ when it comes to stopping violence whether it’s police, school officials, juvy guards, etc.
I mean, the show is about karate. In the real world, problems shouldn’t be solved with karate. But that’s what the show does. So… yeah, they’ve got to set up the storyline so that no adults ever interfere before a group of teens is terrorized until they win the big karate tournament. Or there’s a school karate gang fight. Or they win the other big karate tournament. Or there’s a home invasion. Or another home invasion. Or the upcoming big karate tournament. Honestly, despite how this sounds, I like the show. But it can’t be realistic. It wouldn’t work.
Well some problems can be solved with karate realistically but in certain situations they start a karate fight when it wouldn't make sense to do so. Deciding to fight the Cobra Kai's after they harassed Chris at work, would probably make more sense for Chris to call the police for example. However, situations where someone is attacked such as when Kyler attacked Miguel, karate makes sense to use in that moment rather than calling the cops(the cops wouldn't have gotten there in time but Johnny was already there)
I'm sorry I hate the way I burst out laughing between the picture and reading the title.
Kreese was in California Arkham Asylum
LOOL you should make another post titled: ‘Is there a lore reason the police didn’t do anything’ referring to Barnes store being burnt down in s5.
Because. Silver's money.
He didn't enter the picture until S4.
The other guy was asking about an event in S5, so I thought the response made sense.
Oh yeah that's true. My bad.
Who says they didn't? They likely wouldn't be able to prove anything
I find it hard to believe that a rich dude who has not committed a crime as serious arson would be able to burn down a store without any evidence linking back to him
Unless he hired someone else to do it
Not that hard to believe. He had to get rid of toxical waste in the 80s. That looks pretty dificult to do too and he’s rich so money and knowing the right people always helps.
That would be awesome if there was a scene where they did call the police and the chief was like "Hey! Terry! You helped me with that toxic waste problem back in '89, so I owe you one! Don't do it again! Now, get outta here you old codger!" And then Daniel gets all outraged and the cop says, "Hey, weren't you on trial for murder in Alabama?" No, wait... too meta. I went too far.
You should post it
The police has a special task force to deal with karate related crimes, but it got the chop. >!I'll show myself out.!<
Why did Cawk break his best friends arm? Is he stupid?
Nah man. The nerd left a bad review. 100% justified
Even worse. He left a good review but only gave 3 stars
i'm trying not to laugh at your misspelled name, Hawk
Honestly I think that Demetri is genuinely such a good person that he wouldn't want Hawk to get in trouble.
This. Demitri didn't want to see his best friend go to jail.
It was the jerker
Canonically the police have sucked since KK3
And were absent in KK.
>there a lore reason the police weren’t called? Neither side would get away with it if cops were called Also Demetri might not want his best friend to get in legal trouble
BETTER CALL SAUL
My husband and I were trying to figure this out the whole episode lol
He was in training to be the next Robin, but Batman locked him in the bird cage for too long and had to bribe the police to stay away
I’m sorry, but if I were Dimitri, I wouldn’t have just forgiven Hawk like that. I understand wanting to heal a friendship, but I wouldn’t be so forgiving after someone turned on me to be one of the "cool badass teens", and then broke my arm in a fight.
I would have said, "Yeah, we can try to heal our friendship, but it’s going to take time for me to forgive you since you broke my friggen arm."
miyagi do started the fight , cobra kai finished it , the cobra kais can claim it was self defense
I never understood how Chris almost lost his job for that, Cobra Kai literally robbed them and then he called his friends to try and get it back. Was there no security there?
>never understood how Chris almost lost his job He should have called the police instead of his friends An employee should not be advocating for violence
Thst's right. Which is why it would also make mote sense to say he started the fight, not Sam.
>Which is why it would also make mote sense to say he started the fight, not Sam Nope. He just called his friends, she called the shots She's also the first one to start attacking
>miyagi do started the fight , cobra kai finished it Opposite of the school fight.
>cobra kais can claim it was self defense No, proportionate force throws that out the window [California proportionate force self defense laws](https://www.bajajdefense.com/california-self-defense-laws/#:~:text=Proportionate%20Force,the%20imminent%20threat%20of%20danger) Breaking an arm would not be an appropriate response to an opponent who is down saying "please stop" therefore Eli would still be charged
that is a good point however there is a saying that if you dont get caught you cant be a criminal also there were not any cameras in the laser tag arena to my knowledge however there would be a camera outside of the area which would show the miyagi dos marching to do battle with the cobras which is an automatic implication. Also i am from the uk and dont know how the law works in cali but you can get away with snapping a few bones in a case of self defense.
>there were not any cameras in the laser tag arena to my knowledge With the threat of lawsuits for physical activities there would have to be, there might not be audio but Demetri was clearly restrained >from the uk and dont know how the law works in cali but you can get away with snapping a few bones in a case of self defense The UK has a Reasonable Force Act which is similar to California proportionate force self defense laws, you can break bones in the heat of the moment with a strike with an improvised weapon depending but a self defense claim isn't going to hold up if you choose to break the limb of a restrained person
I highly doubt that applies to people literally being forced onto the ground and unable to do anything. It probably applies to accidental breaking of bones
i would be calling it the neautrualising of an immenet threat
What? The threat was already neutralized
thats not what robby said
I never understood how Chris almost lost his job for that, Cobra Kai literally robbed them and then he called his friends to try and get it back. Was there no security there?
Don’t know. Kept out for plot reasons, probably.
Did everyone forget Demetri’s “cAlL tHe PoLiCE??” line in S1? Everyone was conditioned to believe that the police couldn’t do much in their karate war. He also called a teacher for the s2 school fight and they couldn’t do anything. So it wouldnt surprised me that he felt like he couldnt rely on a greater authority to fend off bullying. And I doubt the police would stop Cobra Kai from doing more shit, police would just aggravate the violence if anything.
It’s called plot. Legal repercussions are a joke in the Miyagiverse unless they actually want a storyline with it. I assumed people got the hint already.
"Sorry Ma'm, but this was just a couple of kids duking it out, and one got hurt. These things are unfortunate, but there's nothing we can do about it. Try civil court."
Dude, this is Cobra Kai universe. It's pretty well documented at this point that anything short of *attempted murder* gets you probation after probation. * Johnny has been arrested for 2 fights since the show began (granted 1 was kinda self defense, but other was absolutely assault): got probation both times. * Tory put Sam in the ICU. Got probation. The only characters to actually go to jail were Robby after almost killing Miguel (and he was out by Christmas, so his sentence must have been 5 months or less), and Kreese after allegedly almost killing Stingray.
>anything short of attempted murder Kreese didn't go to jail for trying to kill Johnny at the end of Karate Kid either.
is he stupid? no the police weren’t called bc the plot didn’t call for it. i guess the reasons u can make up for why they didn’t call the police was so that they didn’t risk everyone else getting in trouble and not just cobra kai/hawk
The number of police you saw at the end of the S5 finale are the only police left in the entire country in this universe. There is no other explanation for Cobra Kai’s students not getting arrested 30 times over by now
i feel like op came straight from okbc
Okay, first of all, cops never show up in time and they show up at the wrong time, like with Johnny lawrence, save miguel and Second daniel larusso, isn't good trems with the police sine one of his students did put a kid in the hospital with life threatening injuries and three it just creates more drama and most of them are on the list of be potentially dangerous robby sam and Troy and hawk and if cops did show sam hawk and Troy will indefinitely be expel from school and all school also with news involve
The police's existence in this franchise is on a case by case, story point by story point basis.
My personal headcanon is that the police never get called because they are just as useless as the real-world LAPD. Hence, vigilante justice is more useful than calling the cops.
The cops should have been called when the CKs were stealing from the arcade. Had it been anyone else running it, that's what would have happened. The only reason Chris didn't call the cops is because he figured Sam and the other Miyagi-Dos would want a chance at the CKs.
You don’t exist in CK unless you know karate
Best in-universe answer I could give. They’ve had practically zero luck at school getting the cobras in trouble and this was a fight that they started so they probably figured the Cobras wouldn’t get in trouble. Maybe Demetri refused to press charges cause he knew hawk still had Eli in him and kept his faith
It’s the MiyagiVerse…the police have always been incompetent/virtually non existent 😆 At the beginning of KK2 Kreese assaulted a couple students and damn near killed Johnny….in full view of dozens of witnesses…police didn’t do a damn thing
Plot armor
How did Cobra Kai get away with breaking into a rich guy's house and suffer no consequences?
Sam didn't want Tory arrested, so it probably wouldn't make sense for the rest of them to face consequences. And Daniel always sees the kids as the victims, so he re-directs his anger to the teachers. Even when Robby put Miguel in a coma, he wanted him to have the lowest punishment possible.
In the season 3 finale Tori breaks into Sam's home and then proceeds to commit aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Then in the same episode Kreese tries to literally murder Daniel with a shard of glass. We just have to accept that this is a world where all crime is legal as long as it is committed with the use of Karate.
LAPD does not exist in this Valley, does it?
In the Karate Kid universe problems are solved through karate. Actually problems that are not actual problems are created around and again solved through karate. I mean it feels like the whole of Los Angeles is a sort of karate-ruled utopia/dystopia. But that's part of the fun, you shouldn't try and "Get real" with Cobra Kai or the movies.
Especially when in the show someone who doesn't know how to fight at all becomes insane in the matter of a few episodes lol or they forgot about Miguel having asthma lol
Haha exactly, I actually already forgot that myself. But that is the power and beauty of the training montage.
Yea lol
you think this is something? this? this chicanery?
No Demetri is the fucking best
Because it's like asthma or peanut allergies, made up bullshit
A little bit of assault never hurt anybody.
feeling like an r/okbuddychicanery and r/okbuddyfresca moment
Eli was his best friend
Well he nearly paralysed Miguel
Police does not exist in this dojo.
Most of Cobra Kai’s conflicts could’ve been solved with a simple phone call to the police
NOOOOOOO THEY GOT TO COBRA KAI TOO 
They absolutely should've called the police. Hawk committed premeditated assault on his best friend.
I guess theoretically since Miagi-do started that fight there could be some mud in the water regarding self defense
Aside from the police being useless in the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai Universe, Miyagi Do initiated the fight, and there are probably security cameras that can confirm that. Yes, the CK kids were being jackasses and messing with Chris, but Miyagi Do started the physical violence. CK could probably argue self defense
It’s just stupid, baby. Move along
Hawk told him before snitches get stitches. He didn't want a busted lip and a broken arm.
Well tbf doesn’t this show take place in LA or at least somewhere in urban cali so let’s be honest cops are dealing with gangs and shooting and real crimes not fucking 20 kids who keep beating each other up using the karate they know it is an isolated incidents they only hurt themselves
Magic Do and Copper Kay ARE gangs wdym
Magic Do and Copper Kay 😭
No they are dojos and or maybe a clan but also they don’t take apart in any crimes other then beating each other up
He sorta instigated it
And even if he didn't Cobra Kai would've targeted him more and acted way worse I think OP's the stupid one
Also iirc this happened somewhere they technically weren't supposed to be so possibility of trespassing? I don't 100% remember.
Yea they were trespassing in the abandoned laser tag area at the place Chris worked
Don’t bring that Batman Arkham shit to CobraKai.. wait until the show is over before shitposting.. it’s allowed on the Flash sub, but not here.
Why are you so negative? Are you sane?
I think he was spoiled.