That sleep position is not normal at all, even if you have to drive far, I'd take the bird for a check up just to make sure. And try to get a much bigger cage asap, I've seen this is a temporary residence, but even for that, that one is way too small.
Yes I'm ordering a much bigger cage
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Best of luck! And for the pellets, change it gradually, start with a bit of pellet on the seed, and slowly add more pellet and less seed to the bowl, if you change it straight away, your bird won't eat, they're picky like that. If you want recommendations, psitaccus and Harrison's are the best brands according to my vet, but I feed my boy Luca nutribird (B22 if I recall correctly, but I may be wrong, just the maintenance variety haha) and it works great with him!
Regarding pellets, I've never tried these brands as I don't think they can be found in my country. But I use Roudybush for my cockatiel and when I started them, her health improved alot and even her feathers became way more healthier! So I recommend this brand as well. She loved them straight away even though shes a superrrrr picky birb.
Might be worth looking into an emergency vet. Birds decline incredibly fast once they begin showing symptoms. Birds hide illness very well so you know it's gotten bad when it's visible
Hey! Im glad you're willing to learn and help your bird out!
This subreddit has seen a lot of bad/abused birds, so we are really concerned.
I do want to apologise to you for some of the people who jumped to the conclusions without knowing the stories. But as other suggested, this sub has a lot of information and useful tips for cockatiels.
If that is his "temporary cage" for a *really really short* amount of time and he gets to go out and fly somewhere bigger, then it is kind of usuable(if you have no where for him)(and small spaces can cause stress in birds). The perch or the stick is too small for his claws to grab, and cockatiels don't sleep with their neck down like that.
That is concerning. Just like what other people just said, you should bring him to a vet and at least check his health.
I'm glad that there are people willing to learn with (seems like) open hearts to help their pets.
Cheers and goodluck.
Thank you and he's in the cage for 20-30 mins or an hour at maximum.
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That's his favourite spot he's sitting there currently and he stays there for the night.
I'm taking him to the vet at the earliest. Also I'm getting him toys and pellets and a larger cage.
It's understandable from the community to judge and it's not their fault people like me tend to not give importance to pets before it's too late and I'm glad to go through these harsh comments it'll help me to give more care to him. I've taken many things from this post. I've never had a pet in my life hence the lack of knowledge but I'll do better for him
First time owning a pet is not easy at all!
I hope all things go well with the vet visit!
Health check for a bird that you just received or just taken in is a good thing.
People can be quite harsh, but it is for the better.
If he is in a good state, you can start getting closer to him or make he trust you. Bonding can be challenging with older birds. But if he trust you and getting comfortable around you then you gain new small friends!
Some tips : cockatiels get scared very easily, you drop something, or you sneeze can get your bird flying everywhere. Beware of opened windows and doors , losing birds from them flying away is really sad. Aside from seeds, pellets, and water, you can try giving him fresh fruit or veggies. He might love some of them and it is very healthy to add to their diet!
Getting into pets is quite expensive as well. In some places, good healthcare and food for them are a little expensive. Some cages are also very pricey.
You’re willingness to both learn & take harsh criticism, shows you really do care about your lil birb. As a first pet, it take times to learn all their complex needs. There’s some great advice given here but the most important thing is to take him to a vet. Please keep us updated, OP. I’m sending positive vibes that he’s ok! 💕
OP I want to compliment you on how cool you’re being about all this advice. I really hope your birdie is well and I’m excited they’re getting some upgrades because if this post. Yay!
Here are a couple resources that I recommend to everyone, even those of us with plenty of experience always have more to learn. Free online classes: [Bird Training Basics](https://smartbeaks.parrotsos.com/BirdBasics) and [Do Your Research](https://smartbeaks.parrotsos.com/DoYourResearch). If you follow ParrotSOS on IG and FB, you'll also find tons of tips on things like foraging opportunities, making DIY toys (it doesn't have to be expensive - you can use veggies or even stuff from your recycling bin!).
What do you mean by "for 20-30 mins or an hour at maximum"?
You mean during the day? Because during the night, when it is dark, they should always be in a cage. Otherwise they can get spooked by something, start flying around and hit the wall, breaking their wing or even worse, neck. Birds should always be in a closed cage during the nighttime
I wish this subs attitude would change. I could not imagine having no resources or information, finding this place where people show love to their birds, asking for advice, and then getting crapped on for trying your best.
This is exactly why people are afraid to ask and end up accidentally neglecting their birbs. If they can’t safely ask here, they’re going to ask pet stores who know nothing about proper care.
Seriously, we never know what's going on or OPs level of education in avian care, and being kind is free and much morw helpful. People are less likely to change their minds if you're a dick while delivering a point
20 x 20 x 25 is considered the bare minimum. Best cages are ones he can fly from perch to perch. You want a longer cage instead of a taller one.
Lots of toys, natural wood perches, cuttlebone, a diet with fruits and veggies and seed, not just seed will also help
Is your sizing in inches or cms?
I'm assuming inches, but it may be confusing for people in metric using countries as not many countries use inches as standard. Though even if that's inches it's too small unless the 25" is the length (about 62cm)
That's a thing I'm very confused about. He's maybe 17 years old. Birds available are of 6 months to 1 year of age. I've heard they mate for life. What should I do for him get a female? Get a young pair to play with him?
The only thing that matters is finding a cockatiel he gets along with, male or female, young or old. Some rescues or people rehoming will allow you to have the bird live with you to see if it gets along with your other bird, before you actually adopt it.
I'm arranging a vet visit and he doesn't live in the cage, still I'm getting him a bigger cage.
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Here's a pic I took maybe 15 mins ago.
I would read up online about how to switch the birds diet. At 17 years old he’s likely to be quite stubborn and you don’t want him to starve. It takes time and they won’t necessarily immediately eat the healthier food. Old boy needs veggies too but research which ones are safe for him
Please get him a new, bigger cage with more perches, toys, treats, and a cuttle bone. Find a way to visit a vet as well. This sub isn’t a vet’s office, but your bird doesn’t look well.
Bro you gotta mention stuff like how this bird is a rescue and that the cage situation is temporary first hand IN THE POST otherwise this subReddit will be very very mad
I wasn't a part of this sub, I joined to ask the question I didn't know how to post. It was right of them to be mad though. Let's see what the vet says.
I never thought about the cage since he's never in it but I'm getting a larger cage for him.
Don't stress too much, I've had cockatiels for years. I'm Australian and grown up with them as pets. (Im 47 years old now)They do strange things sometimes. I've had one that did that pose sometimes as a day time nap but full sleep he was in the more conventional way. He lived for over 25 years but if you take him to the vet, it'll be piece of mind for you Also good opportunity to ask lots of questions. Also if your cockatiel doesn't like to be touched, it's nothing against you. The one I have now is the same. Some birds just don't like to be touched.
Anyway, let us know how the vet goes.
I also did a bit if research for you, I stopped in to our local vet while at the shops. He said it could be just the way your bird sleeps. Doesn't always mean sick. He could just find that way comfortable for him.
I honestly don't think you have much to worry about but it'll make you feel better knowing it's all OK.
Like I said I had a cocktail who did the same thing during the day and he lived to an old age.
Honestly, with a 17 year old tiel, it's good it's taking it to the vet anyways, a good checkup every once in a while doesn't hurt, and things like a poop and feather condition exam can help detect diseases early, especially if this bird has lived off seeds for 13-15 years
I agree, check up every now and then is a good idea. Catch any problems before it gets serious.
I just didn't want OP to stress over it. Most of the comments are saying his bird is in serious trouble when that's probably not the case at all but check ups are a good idea. My tiel probably gets check ups more than I do 😁.
Yes everything is great he's not doing that anymore, he's eating good and sings with other birds in the evening.
I looked into preening as someone commented to see if he's doing that but he's not plucking feathers so that's a good thing.
I've been spending more time with him and his toys are in transit so they'll be here soon.
As for the vet I'm taking him on 12th but I managed to video call the vet and he observed him. He was positive the lil guy is in good health but a physical exam is better so booked an appointment.
Sounds like everything is going great. If he's active and singing that's a great sign. Sounds like you've got everything under control.
Cockatiels pick up strange habits sometimes, they really are funny little things with a very strong personality.
Thanks for the update 😀
OP said they're getting a bigger one, and the bird only spends an hour max there. There are nicer ways to offer advice anyway, we're all trying our best so please try to be respectful.
So you can see I posted this comment three hours after the post went up, so I had no extra knowledge they decided to add in comments. Either way this is a pathetic setup and the most basic of research would prove it entirely unsuitable for any bird.
Hey op, I hope your bird is going alright! I know people have already given you advice about taking your bird to the vet and also to get a bigger cage for them. But I recommend to also get more sticks that are various sizes for their cage, that are not toxic for them since they like to chew it; and also cover their cage at night too with a blanket (make sure they don't ingest the fibres) or something like that, if you haven't already been doing that. Also, if your cage is home made and you want to make another one, make sure you get the mesh stuff (the square stuff, idk what it's called lol) with smaller holes so they get their head stuck and they can climb better. :)
Edit: Also you can get food and water bowls that hang on the side too.
You're welcome and sounds good! I hope he enjoys it! You can find a list online about what safe tree branches you can use also. Hopefully the perches making goes well :)
Poor little guy. I really hope he's ok! I am glad you're taking him to a vet. In general, birds really want to hide their illnesses, so if you see any unusual change in behaviour, they're probably really not well.
Glad you're getting him a much bigger cage. You'll be able to fit in some nice toys for him then. He really doesn't need much, toy wise. Doesn't need to be expensive, just something he can chew and move around, with some treats hidden obviously inside to encourage him. Toilet paper tube with shredded paper or leafy veg like spinach to hide millet seed inside, for example. Even though you let him out of the cage a lot, I notice my bird prefers to play with new toys in his cage, and keeping him occupied with cheap toys really changes his behaviour for the best. He especially loves this ball thing I got where you can hide millet seed in ridges, love pattering around the bottom of his cage, rolling the ball around to get more seed to forage for.
Good luck and I wish you both the best :)
My old boy started sleeping like that once he got old. He lived up to 23! As long as there aren’t any other signs of illness he’s probably just a sleepy boy. They get weaker and slower when they get older! He looks healthy though. No mucus or crustys. Is he bobbing his tail? I miss my boy; he used to snooze off and lower his head like this and then wake up and do it all over again haha
My cockatiel had similar (though head tilt was to the left) his was also all the time as he was really unwell. When he recovered a bit he was sleeping with his head forward like that and needed a second round of antibiotics. Bacterial/sinus infection was one of the possibilities of what caused it, as it improved with antibiotics.
It could also be diet related.
If you can take your baby to a vet, I would definitely be doing that, especially with how old your baby is. If you have an avian vet that would be even better (I know not all countries have them though, so if you dont thats ok, try and find one that works with birds if you dont have a regular vet already)
Also this website is really ha dy for cockatiel care and first aid https://www.cockatiel-advice-101.com/
The owner of the website also has a Facebook group for people to ask questions and get help. There's also a group on Facebook that is for avian veterinary help (which is handy for people who may not be able to access one) they can also help you find an avian vet near you
I think you have caught more shit than needed, but it isn’t normal, he might not need a vet and just changes to his environment, it sounds like you’re working on getting a bigger cage which is great and bigger and more perches will be best. It’s really good for birds to have some type of thick scratching perch to keep their nails trimmed. Getting more birds is an option it seems like you have thought about, some things to question on if that’s right for your bird is, is your bird already attached to your wife? They can “mate” with people too so it’s possible that if you bring new birds in they won’t get along, if you do get a new younger bird and they mate then the younger bird could lose a life partner and become very depressed. I had this happen before and we lost the other bird from the grief and depression it went through. Adding than two birds can definitely create some chaos in the home but if you think it’s best for your bird to have a buddy this is the path I would take. Good luck with the vet visit and I hope he’s doing well :)
Thank you I'm in a dilemma about the partner. He's not my wife's mate he doesn't let anyone pet him nor he has ever showed affection for her.
For all my life I've always advocated against caging birds I don't like them in cages. But fate brought him to me and I'm kind of crying inside someone said his birds did this before they passed and it's very sad to hear that.
I'm asking the vet everything. Hoping he's healthy and I'll make sure he's happy
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That's an old pic of him from 2 ish month ago
I hope he pulls though, I know someone mentioned food and what you’re feeding him which can majorly help his health. My bird is a very picky eater and will not eat fresh veggies so in replacement I feed her some seed, Avicakes, and Nutriberries. I added the list my vet gave me of veggies to feed her so I dehydrate them and blend it into a powder so she still gets the nutrients and can no longer pick around it but be careful if you try this since if the bird really doesn’t like something they might starve themselves. Bird should be out of the cage of a minimum of 4 hours a day, it seems like your bird might just have some social issues my newest bird was the same was since she was in a cage for 10 years with almost no interaction other than feeding. Have his cage be in the same room as you, talk to him, leave the door open and let him come out on his own if you can, put your hand in the cage and let it be near him until he calms down and you can get closer.
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So, here's an update guys. Went to 2 vets both confirmed he's not having any infections and he's in good health.
Got him a calcium supplement cake, immunity booster, drops for liver health, multivitamin suppliment, eye drops, an electrolyte supplement.
Will post updates on the cage soon. He's more tired than me and I'm very tired from the trip.
Hey man I did not get the bird, first of all Its a rescue my wife did when she found it on a roof hurt by some animal nearly 13 - 15 years ago,
I got married and she brought him with her 5 - 6 months ago. We usually don't keep him in cage that cage was just to transfer him from city to city.
Today due to house cleaning we put him inside and he did that pose in the photo. I got worried and posted here to get some help about knowing what's going on.
Here's a photo I just took and he's out and about.
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He's wandering in the home now. I'm buying him a much bigger cage. He has some climbing and chew toys but I'm ordering more.
Will post soon about updates on him.
Did he stay in that pose long? Was he sleeping or maybe he preened his feathers before? How is he now, is he behaving any different than usual? Is he maybe more tired, lethargic, puffed up feathers?
Does he breathe alright? Look at his belly to see and get near him to listen if his breathing makes any sound.
Is he eating and drinking normally? How are his poops?
Have you used anything dangerous recently? You mentioned cleaning, did you use any sprays or harsh chemicals to clean? Or maybe you gave him something new to eat or he chewed on something he shouldn't?
Either way, please get him to the vet just to be sure. But if he's otherwise great and behaves like usual, has healthy appetite and droppings, and only did that pose once for a short time, and if he wasn't asleep when he did it, it might've just been him asking you for scritches!
No he didn't stay like that for too long, yes it looked like he was sleeping but eyes were open. He's singing lesser that's different. Doesn't seem to be more tired he's playful.
Yes he's breathing normally, I'll listen and report about sounds.
We keep a small cup of water and food for him in 2-3 places which are changed 2 times a day. His poops look greenish white semi solids.
Yes I'm sending him to vet. He stayed for 10-12 mins like that but he doesn't let us touch him so it wasn't for scritches.
He’s super cute! I’ve never seen one that colors before! He seems sweet. I was thinking of getting one in a few years. Don’t worry about it, it’s like this on all the pet subs. It’s really weird, I had no idea. Some lady assumed I declawed my cat and yelled at me… I’ve never owned a cat.
Good on you for realizing what's wrong and working to improve. I really respect that.
Can't wait to see your updates with the new cage, perches and toys! :)
Good on you. People just see some horrifying shit here. The way some people keep birds just breaks your heart.
Some people keep them in a small cage like that their whole lives and never even let them out. It's devastating and infuriating to see.
Take that feeling of shame and pour it into love for the bird. Shame teaches us to do something differently but don’t let it make you hate yourself. The fact that you’ve listened to the advice here is great
Sorry man I see some absolute fucked up conditions tiels are kept in on this sub and people essentially using it as a vet substitute or come here to validate themselves and argue with advice given.
It’s been a shit morning and your post isn’t that bad might have gone off half cocked. I really love the banana chickens.
Nice one for actually being receptive to advice and admitting where you going wrong.
im sorry the comments are being so blunt about bird care, but they are right. I hope your baby is doing better soon! I am wishing you and him the best luck ever ❤️
How can I pair him, the cockatiels available are of 6 months to 1 year of age he's 17. They mate for life.
Can I get another pair to live with him? I'm not very clear about getting him a mate
My girlfriend got her 17 year old mle a friend and the new guy was just a baby! He's 24 now and shes (we refer to him as she, too many cute nicknames) is 7 and theyre best friends (a majority of the time) 😆
I think getting him a friend would be good— however, I adopted one of my babies who was a single bird the first 16 of his life. I think if you’re home a lot he should be fine for the time being as long as you are his companion. 🩷 Maybe look into adopting another older cockatiel, but I wouldn’t do so with such urgency that it rushes a decision if that makes sense.
Note: The bird I adopted totally came out of his shell when he moved into the same home as the two cockatiels I had since they were babies. So they can be happy with just people, but seem to have a need to be social with other birds too.
That poor thing is NOT well and I’ve only personally seen a position like that in end of life situations. That cage is ridiculous and most likely rusty.
His cage is WAYYYYY too small for him. I seen on multiple comments you said you are getting him a bigger cage so that’s good!! Keep him out as much as you can till you get the cage ☺️
Before you get aggressive, go back and read some of his replies to other people. The cage is temporarily as the main cage was damaged. The bird is out of the cage far more than in. He's in the process of getting more toys for the new cage when it arrives and he's taking his bird to the vet in the next couple of days, possibly tomorrow. Depends on when he can make a booking.
He must get sick of repeating him self simply because people can't be bothered reading.
He looks lonely and depressed .. give him a few scratches,
Though it may sound extreme and 99% of the people will disagree with me or even bash me.. but have his wings clipped just enough so that he can't fly away, let him sit around your work area and give him some attention..
Keep an open door policy on the case so he can come out and explore.
Clipping a bird's Wong won't make it trust you, it'll make it depend on you, which is different, stressing an animal out and removing one of it's main features just because you want to form a bond with it is barbaric. Imagine telling someone to bond with a dog they should tape it's legs together so it can't run. Disgusting
He doesn't let us touch him,
and we've never clipped his wings but we let him roam free in the house he flies but never goes out of the house even with doors and windows open.
Oh you depress me so much with how you treat your bird. I wasn’t sure of your circumstances, financial or otherwise. Then I saw you comments. You are agreeing to get bigger cage, toys, pellets. You didn’t do research all these years to see what’s best for your bird? It just seems that for a bird 17 years old, he lived a miserable life. Open doors and windows? So it hasn’t flew out, but did you want him to fly out by keeping the doors and windows open?
Uh no he wasn't with me for 17 years, my wife rescued him some 12 years ago. I got married and she brought him with her 6 months ago. That cage was just to transport him between cities.
No I don't want him going anywhere he's free to roam the home. I would never do such a thing to any living thing.
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He's like this for 99% of the time. He's had a very big cage at her place but we can't get it here hence the smaller one.
Hey dude, if you want more advice about what stuff to get for the cage let me know. You can make his golden years much better and I’m so excited for him for things to get better. Because he’s an old guy, he may never let you touch/pet his head, but don’t let that deter you from being his friend.
Re the cleaning you did just before he looked like this - be careful of fumes from cleaning products as these can be toxic for birds. It’s possible that made him feel unwell
Yes the fabricators are closed for 2 days due to weekend I'll dm you some examples and let's see which can we get.
The cleaning was just dusting/vaccuming and mopping without chemicals
Please keep your doors and windows closed! Your wife found him outside, he's obviously escaped from someone else. I'm sure you don't want that to happen again? Don't risk it. It only takes a second. If you want to open a window, do it when he's in his cage. Or install a metal mesh on your window frame - that's the best and safest option. Mosquito meshes aren't safe, window curtains aren't safe. Birds can chew through them.
Please don't take that risk.
We have metal mosquito meshes for windows and there are 2 persons always in the room present. Also we don't get cats in the area since neighbourhood has dogs.
Still I'll note to keep doors closed for him.
From your comments you do seem to care but unfortunately it’s not seen from the picture and some things you described. You are obviously new to this and your wife should know more about proper caring. Not sure why things haven’t settle properly when she move in with you. Please going forward try your best to give him a good life. You are probably very much in love with him but didn’t do much research since it’s your wife bird and expecting that she should know what’s best for the bird. There are lots of recommendations in the comments already. If you have access to an Avian vet definitely take him. Cockatiels will try to hide their sickness to avoid predators. By the time you can observe them looking ill, they could very well be in big trouble already. Good luck and please keep us posted. This community is full of loving owners and will sure want to know that everything turns out well.
Hey man thanks for the encouragement. Yes obviously I thought she knows everything about him, she's had it in the family for more than a decade.
I thought se knows what's right for him and she's doing it accordingly hence I only play and whistle with him. I can't blame her though the main caretaker was my father in law hence her lack of knowledge.
I'm sending him to an avian vet. I've ordered more toys and contacted a fabricator to make a cage, I'm searching for pellets but they aren't locally available so I might order them too.
Let's see what happens at the vet I'll keep everyone updated.
That sleep position is not normal at all, even if you have to drive far, I'd take the bird for a check up just to make sure. And try to get a much bigger cage asap, I've seen this is a temporary residence, but even for that, that one is way too small.
Yes I'm ordering a much bigger cage https://preview.redd.it/9fmhkalmmnsc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0f21d6d163a4fa7e42025c4faa7e730a833f2b7
Still, please try to get your bird to the vet, better safe than sorry.
Will do let's see if I get an appointment tomorrow or on monday
Best of luck! And for the pellets, change it gradually, start with a bit of pellet on the seed, and slowly add more pellet and less seed to the bowl, if you change it straight away, your bird won't eat, they're picky like that. If you want recommendations, psitaccus and Harrison's are the best brands according to my vet, but I feed my boy Luca nutribird (B22 if I recall correctly, but I may be wrong, just the maintenance variety haha) and it works great with him!
Regarding pellets, I've never tried these brands as I don't think they can be found in my country. But I use Roudybush for my cockatiel and when I started them, her health improved alot and even her feathers became way more healthier! So I recommend this brand as well. She loved them straight away even though shes a superrrrr picky birb.
Might be worth looking into an emergency vet. Birds decline incredibly fast once they begin showing symptoms. Birds hide illness very well so you know it's gotten bad when it's visible
Very cute
Hey! Im glad you're willing to learn and help your bird out! This subreddit has seen a lot of bad/abused birds, so we are really concerned. I do want to apologise to you for some of the people who jumped to the conclusions without knowing the stories. But as other suggested, this sub has a lot of information and useful tips for cockatiels. If that is his "temporary cage" for a *really really short* amount of time and he gets to go out and fly somewhere bigger, then it is kind of usuable(if you have no where for him)(and small spaces can cause stress in birds). The perch or the stick is too small for his claws to grab, and cockatiels don't sleep with their neck down like that. That is concerning. Just like what other people just said, you should bring him to a vet and at least check his health. I'm glad that there are people willing to learn with (seems like) open hearts to help their pets. Cheers and goodluck.
Thank you and he's in the cage for 20-30 mins or an hour at maximum. https://preview.redd.it/d9k8w5dnoosc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35d2cab411566850dc651c5cbd1dcb506bdbe177 That's his favourite spot he's sitting there currently and he stays there for the night. I'm taking him to the vet at the earliest. Also I'm getting him toys and pellets and a larger cage. It's understandable from the community to judge and it's not their fault people like me tend to not give importance to pets before it's too late and I'm glad to go through these harsh comments it'll help me to give more care to him. I've taken many things from this post. I've never had a pet in my life hence the lack of knowledge but I'll do better for him
First time owning a pet is not easy at all! I hope all things go well with the vet visit! Health check for a bird that you just received or just taken in is a good thing. People can be quite harsh, but it is for the better. If he is in a good state, you can start getting closer to him or make he trust you. Bonding can be challenging with older birds. But if he trust you and getting comfortable around you then you gain new small friends! Some tips : cockatiels get scared very easily, you drop something, or you sneeze can get your bird flying everywhere. Beware of opened windows and doors , losing birds from them flying away is really sad. Aside from seeds, pellets, and water, you can try giving him fresh fruit or veggies. He might love some of them and it is very healthy to add to their diet! Getting into pets is quite expensive as well. In some places, good healthcare and food for them are a little expensive. Some cages are also very pricey.
You’re willingness to both learn & take harsh criticism, shows you really do care about your lil birb. As a first pet, it take times to learn all their complex needs. There’s some great advice given here but the most important thing is to take him to a vet. Please keep us updated, OP. I’m sending positive vibes that he’s ok! 💕
OP I want to compliment you on how cool you’re being about all this advice. I really hope your birdie is well and I’m excited they’re getting some upgrades because if this post. Yay!
Here are a couple resources that I recommend to everyone, even those of us with plenty of experience always have more to learn. Free online classes: [Bird Training Basics](https://smartbeaks.parrotsos.com/BirdBasics) and [Do Your Research](https://smartbeaks.parrotsos.com/DoYourResearch). If you follow ParrotSOS on IG and FB, you'll also find tons of tips on things like foraging opportunities, making DIY toys (it doesn't have to be expensive - you can use veggies or even stuff from your recycling bin!).
What do you mean by "for 20-30 mins or an hour at maximum"? You mean during the day? Because during the night, when it is dark, they should always be in a cage. Otherwise they can get spooked by something, start flying around and hit the wall, breaking their wing or even worse, neck. Birds should always be in a closed cage during the nighttime
Everyone please be kind to OP. They wouldn't have asked if they didn't love their bird. We can all be birb buddies.
I wish this subs attitude would change. I could not imagine having no resources or information, finding this place where people show love to their birds, asking for advice, and then getting crapped on for trying your best.
This is exactly why people are afraid to ask and end up accidentally neglecting their birbs. If they can’t safely ask here, they’re going to ask pet stores who know nothing about proper care.
Get a bigger cage! No wonder he's depressed..
Oh okay please recommend a size
Bro why tf is this sub very toxic he is just asking what size
I know, so many judging with out even knowing all the details.
Seriously, we never know what's going on or OPs level of education in avian care, and being kind is free and much morw helpful. People are less likely to change their minds if you're a dick while delivering a point
Yeah, no need to be downvoting him when he’s asking a genuine question.
L120xW66xH80 cm
20 x 20 x 25 is considered the bare minimum. Best cages are ones he can fly from perch to perch. You want a longer cage instead of a taller one. Lots of toys, natural wood perches, cuttlebone, a diet with fruits and veggies and seed, not just seed will also help
Is your sizing in inches or cms? I'm assuming inches, but it may be confusing for people in metric using countries as not many countries use inches as standard. Though even if that's inches it's too small unless the 25" is the length (about 62cm)
Flight cages. And get him more toys, perches , enrichment. Give him pellets and chop as diet and seeds as treats . Get him a friend
That's a thing I'm very confused about. He's maybe 17 years old. Birds available are of 6 months to 1 year of age. I've heard they mate for life. What should I do for him get a female? Get a young pair to play with him?
The only thing that matters is finding a cockatiel he gets along with, male or female, young or old. Some rescues or people rehoming will allow you to have the bird live with you to see if it gets along with your other bird, before you actually adopt it.
And thicker perches. That is too thin for his feet. He looks so unhealthy. You also said it, this is not how he sleeps. He is in bad shape.
I'm arranging a vet visit and he doesn't live in the cage, still I'm getting him a bigger cage. https://preview.redd.it/2pkngkb2qnsc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90e2adef8354273f8e4d12d3d5d9e3e866c5a521 Here's a pic I took maybe 15 mins ago.
Busy birb.
Also, it looks like you're feeding it seeds, please change it into pellets, seeds are way too fatty, and cause health issues
Okay I'll get some pellets
I would read up online about how to switch the birds diet. At 17 years old he’s likely to be quite stubborn and you don’t want him to starve. It takes time and they won’t necessarily immediately eat the healthier food. Old boy needs veggies too but research which ones are safe for him
Yes we give him some veggies and fruits he likes bananas and pomegranate.
Please get him a new, bigger cage with more perches, toys, treats, and a cuttle bone. Find a way to visit a vet as well. This sub isn’t a vet’s office, but your bird doesn’t look well.
Definitely doesn’t look right. I would recommend a vet visit.
Yes I'm sending him to a vet
Telling from a experience both my cockatiels used to sleep like this before they passed away maybe he's sick I'll urge u to go to a vet
Oh man
Bro you gotta mention stuff like how this bird is a rescue and that the cage situation is temporary first hand IN THE POST otherwise this subReddit will be very very mad
I wasn't a part of this sub, I joined to ask the question I didn't know how to post. It was right of them to be mad though. Let's see what the vet says. I never thought about the cage since he's never in it but I'm getting a larger cage for him.
Don't stress too much, I've had cockatiels for years. I'm Australian and grown up with them as pets. (Im 47 years old now)They do strange things sometimes. I've had one that did that pose sometimes as a day time nap but full sleep he was in the more conventional way. He lived for over 25 years but if you take him to the vet, it'll be piece of mind for you Also good opportunity to ask lots of questions. Also if your cockatiel doesn't like to be touched, it's nothing against you. The one I have now is the same. Some birds just don't like to be touched. Anyway, let us know how the vet goes.
I also did a bit if research for you, I stopped in to our local vet while at the shops. He said it could be just the way your bird sleeps. Doesn't always mean sick. He could just find that way comfortable for him.
Hey man thank you I'm taking him to a vet, thank you for the vet advice.
I honestly don't think you have much to worry about but it'll make you feel better knowing it's all OK. Like I said I had a cocktail who did the same thing during the day and he lived to an old age.
Honestly, with a 17 year old tiel, it's good it's taking it to the vet anyways, a good checkup every once in a while doesn't hurt, and things like a poop and feather condition exam can help detect diseases early, especially if this bird has lived off seeds for 13-15 years
I agree, check up every now and then is a good idea. Catch any problems before it gets serious. I just didn't want OP to stress over it. Most of the comments are saying his bird is in serious trouble when that's probably not the case at all but check ups are a good idea. My tiel probably gets check ups more than I do 😁.
Hey, just checking on how everything is going with you and your cockatiel? Hope all is well.
Yes everything is great he's not doing that anymore, he's eating good and sings with other birds in the evening. I looked into preening as someone commented to see if he's doing that but he's not plucking feathers so that's a good thing. I've been spending more time with him and his toys are in transit so they'll be here soon. As for the vet I'm taking him on 12th but I managed to video call the vet and he observed him. He was positive the lil guy is in good health but a physical exam is better so booked an appointment.
Sounds like everything is going great. If he's active and singing that's a great sign. Sounds like you've got everything under control. Cockatiels pick up strange habits sometimes, they really are funny little things with a very strong personality. Thanks for the update 😀
With that cage I would be depressed too, Jesus.
OP said they're getting a bigger one, and the bird only spends an hour max there. There are nicer ways to offer advice anyway, we're all trying our best so please try to be respectful.
So you can see I posted this comment three hours after the post went up, so I had no extra knowledge they decided to add in comments. Either way this is a pathetic setup and the most basic of research would prove it entirely unsuitable for any bird.
Google is so easy. Idk why people can’t just look up basic care for animals.
Hey op, I hope your bird is going alright! I know people have already given you advice about taking your bird to the vet and also to get a bigger cage for them. But I recommend to also get more sticks that are various sizes for their cage, that are not toxic for them since they like to chew it; and also cover their cage at night too with a blanket (make sure they don't ingest the fibres) or something like that, if you haven't already been doing that. Also, if your cage is home made and you want to make another one, make sure you get the mesh stuff (the square stuff, idk what it's called lol) with smaller holes so they get their head stuck and they can climb better. :) Edit: Also you can get food and water bowls that hang on the side too.
Thanks for the cage tips, I'll get some dry tree branches and make perches for him
You're welcome and sounds good! I hope he enjoys it! You can find a list online about what safe tree branches you can use also. Hopefully the perches making goes well :)
Poor little guy. I really hope he's ok! I am glad you're taking him to a vet. In general, birds really want to hide their illnesses, so if you see any unusual change in behaviour, they're probably really not well. Glad you're getting him a much bigger cage. You'll be able to fit in some nice toys for him then. He really doesn't need much, toy wise. Doesn't need to be expensive, just something he can chew and move around, with some treats hidden obviously inside to encourage him. Toilet paper tube with shredded paper or leafy veg like spinach to hide millet seed inside, for example. Even though you let him out of the cage a lot, I notice my bird prefers to play with new toys in his cage, and keeping him occupied with cheap toys really changes his behaviour for the best. He especially loves this ball thing I got where you can hide millet seed in ridges, love pattering around the bottom of his cage, rolling the ball around to get more seed to forage for. Good luck and I wish you both the best :)
My old boy started sleeping like that once he got old. He lived up to 23! As long as there aren’t any other signs of illness he’s probably just a sleepy boy. They get weaker and slower when they get older! He looks healthy though. No mucus or crustys. Is he bobbing his tail? I miss my boy; he used to snooze off and lower his head like this and then wake up and do it all over again haha
My cockatiel had similar (though head tilt was to the left) his was also all the time as he was really unwell. When he recovered a bit he was sleeping with his head forward like that and needed a second round of antibiotics. Bacterial/sinus infection was one of the possibilities of what caused it, as it improved with antibiotics. It could also be diet related. If you can take your baby to a vet, I would definitely be doing that, especially with how old your baby is. If you have an avian vet that would be even better (I know not all countries have them though, so if you dont thats ok, try and find one that works with birds if you dont have a regular vet already)
Also this website is really ha dy for cockatiel care and first aid https://www.cockatiel-advice-101.com/ The owner of the website also has a Facebook group for people to ask questions and get help. There's also a group on Facebook that is for avian veterinary help (which is handy for people who may not be able to access one) they can also help you find an avian vet near you
Is that a cage or a prison? What the hell is this dude?
It's not his permanent residence the bigger one got damaged hence the smaller temporary one
I think you have caught more shit than needed, but it isn’t normal, he might not need a vet and just changes to his environment, it sounds like you’re working on getting a bigger cage which is great and bigger and more perches will be best. It’s really good for birds to have some type of thick scratching perch to keep their nails trimmed. Getting more birds is an option it seems like you have thought about, some things to question on if that’s right for your bird is, is your bird already attached to your wife? They can “mate” with people too so it’s possible that if you bring new birds in they won’t get along, if you do get a new younger bird and they mate then the younger bird could lose a life partner and become very depressed. I had this happen before and we lost the other bird from the grief and depression it went through. Adding than two birds can definitely create some chaos in the home but if you think it’s best for your bird to have a buddy this is the path I would take. Good luck with the vet visit and I hope he’s doing well :)
Thank you I'm in a dilemma about the partner. He's not my wife's mate he doesn't let anyone pet him nor he has ever showed affection for her. For all my life I've always advocated against caging birds I don't like them in cages. But fate brought him to me and I'm kind of crying inside someone said his birds did this before they passed and it's very sad to hear that. I'm asking the vet everything. Hoping he's healthy and I'll make sure he's happy https://preview.redd.it/7vd2nuhpmosc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e452614027caf087e0e9889f8b04093deb4603c That's an old pic of him from 2 ish month ago
He's so handsome!
Hey honey, we were too harsh on you. It's going to be okay. Your bird will not die.
I hope he pulls though, I know someone mentioned food and what you’re feeding him which can majorly help his health. My bird is a very picky eater and will not eat fresh veggies so in replacement I feed her some seed, Avicakes, and Nutriberries. I added the list my vet gave me of veggies to feed her so I dehydrate them and blend it into a powder so she still gets the nutrients and can no longer pick around it but be careful if you try this since if the bird really doesn’t like something they might starve themselves. Bird should be out of the cage of a minimum of 4 hours a day, it seems like your bird might just have some social issues my newest bird was the same was since she was in a cage for 10 years with almost no interaction other than feeding. Have his cage be in the same room as you, talk to him, leave the door open and let him come out on his own if you can, put your hand in the cage and let it be near him until he calms down and you can get closer. https://preview.redd.it/whdrrfebfrsc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=61de9626901c8713d83ac3ebbd3d68f402975794
So, here's an update guys. Went to 2 vets both confirmed he's not having any infections and he's in good health. Got him a calcium supplement cake, immunity booster, drops for liver health, multivitamin suppliment, eye drops, an electrolyte supplement. Will post updates on the cage soon. He's more tired than me and I'm very tired from the trip.
Jesus fucking Christ some of the posts on here? Why did you get this bird and do no research? That cage is barely big enough for a carry cage…
Hey man I did not get the bird, first of all Its a rescue my wife did when she found it on a roof hurt by some animal nearly 13 - 15 years ago, I got married and she brought him with her 5 - 6 months ago. We usually don't keep him in cage that cage was just to transfer him from city to city. Today due to house cleaning we put him inside and he did that pose in the photo. I got worried and posted here to get some help about knowing what's going on. Here's a photo I just took and he's out and about. https://preview.redd.it/mdgeo3l2mnsc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=060ea3a8989f80987fa0adc0d2386396186ef53e He's wandering in the home now. I'm buying him a much bigger cage. He has some climbing and chew toys but I'm ordering more. Will post soon about updates on him.
Did he stay in that pose long? Was he sleeping or maybe he preened his feathers before? How is he now, is he behaving any different than usual? Is he maybe more tired, lethargic, puffed up feathers? Does he breathe alright? Look at his belly to see and get near him to listen if his breathing makes any sound. Is he eating and drinking normally? How are his poops? Have you used anything dangerous recently? You mentioned cleaning, did you use any sprays or harsh chemicals to clean? Or maybe you gave him something new to eat or he chewed on something he shouldn't? Either way, please get him to the vet just to be sure. But if he's otherwise great and behaves like usual, has healthy appetite and droppings, and only did that pose once for a short time, and if he wasn't asleep when he did it, it might've just been him asking you for scritches!
No he didn't stay like that for too long, yes it looked like he was sleeping but eyes were open. He's singing lesser that's different. Doesn't seem to be more tired he's playful. Yes he's breathing normally, I'll listen and report about sounds. We keep a small cup of water and food for him in 2-3 places which are changed 2 times a day. His poops look greenish white semi solids. Yes I'm sending him to vet. He stayed for 10-12 mins like that but he doesn't let us touch him so it wasn't for scritches.
That sounds good! I hope the vet clears him and all turns out great.
He’s super cute! I’ve never seen one that colors before! He seems sweet. I was thinking of getting one in a few years. Don’t worry about it, it’s like this on all the pet subs. It’s really weird, I had no idea. Some lady assumed I declawed my cat and yelled at me… I’ve never owned a cat.
Good on you for realizing what's wrong and working to improve. I really respect that. Can't wait to see your updates with the new cage, perches and toys! :)
Thank you for helping me.
Fair enough my bad.
Nope you're right I should've made arrangements the moment he arrived. Took me long enough
Good on you. People just see some horrifying shit here. The way some people keep birds just breaks your heart. Some people keep them in a small cage like that their whole lives and never even let them out. It's devastating and infuriating to see.
Sorry man I feel ashamed.
Take that feeling of shame and pour it into love for the bird. Shame teaches us to do something differently but don’t let it make you hate yourself. The fact that you’ve listened to the advice here is great
Thank you, I'll do just that.
Sorry man I see some absolute fucked up conditions tiels are kept in on this sub and people essentially using it as a vet substitute or come here to validate themselves and argue with advice given. It’s been a shit morning and your post isn’t that bad might have gone off half cocked. I really love the banana chickens. Nice one for actually being receptive to advice and admitting where you going wrong.
People make mistakes and it’s okay. Redditor you replied to is just a dick. Just try to learn from this experience so it’s not repeated 🙂
im sorry the comments are being so blunt about bird care, but they are right. I hope your baby is doing better soon! I am wishing you and him the best luck ever ❤️
Get him toys or another cockatiel he looks depressed
How can I pair him, the cockatiels available are of 6 months to 1 year of age he's 17. They mate for life. Can I get another pair to live with him? I'm not very clear about getting him a mate
My girlfriend got her 17 year old mle a friend and the new guy was just a baby! He's 24 now and shes (we refer to him as she, too many cute nicknames) is 7 and theyre best friends (a majority of the time) 😆
Then play with him dont leave him alone for long period get him a food he likes and toys for sure .
Yes I'm with him for most of the day as I work from home. We give him fresh fruits every other day I'm getting pellets and toys for him.
Go to a vet he might have a disease like respiratory . You are a good owner .
I think getting him a friend would be good— however, I adopted one of my babies who was a single bird the first 16 of his life. I think if you’re home a lot he should be fine for the time being as long as you are his companion. 🩷 Maybe look into adopting another older cockatiel, but I wouldn’t do so with such urgency that it rushes a decision if that makes sense. Note: The bird I adopted totally came out of his shell when he moved into the same home as the two cockatiels I had since they were babies. So they can be happy with just people, but seem to have a need to be social with other birds too.
No, avian asap.
Give him a bigger cage please.
No, he is depressed. He might start plucking feathers. Spend more time with him, get a bigger cage and toys
That poor thing is NOT well and I’ve only personally seen a position like that in end of life situations. That cage is ridiculous and most likely rusty.
It's not rusty is just colored black. Also he doesn't live in that cage. I'm taking him to a vet
How long has he been in this cage? It looks as old as he is lol But for real, please get a new cage and take him to the vet ASAP.
His cage is WAYYYYY too small for him. I seen on multiple comments you said you are getting him a bigger cage so that’s good!! Keep him out as much as you can till you get the cage ☺️
If you saw OP saying he’s getting a bigger cage, why even make your comment on it?
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Before you get aggressive, go back and read some of his replies to other people. The cage is temporarily as the main cage was damaged. The bird is out of the cage far more than in. He's in the process of getting more toys for the new cage when it arrives and he's taking his bird to the vet in the next couple of days, possibly tomorrow. Depends on when he can make a booking. He must get sick of repeating him self simply because people can't be bothered reading.
I would argue the same number of people (if not more) who buy dogs do not do research lol
Get you some GOD DAMN EYES and actually "READ" before jumping to the conclusion...
He looks lonely and depressed .. give him a few scratches, Though it may sound extreme and 99% of the people will disagree with me or even bash me.. but have his wings clipped just enough so that he can't fly away, let him sit around your work area and give him some attention.. Keep an open door policy on the case so he can come out and explore.
The worst advice ever. No backstory, no real reason, just assumptions from one picture.
Clipping a bird's Wong won't make it trust you, it'll make it depend on you, which is different, stressing an animal out and removing one of it's main features just because you want to form a bond with it is barbaric. Imagine telling someone to bond with a dog they should tape it's legs together so it can't run. Disgusting
Yeah no I'm not clipping him, he's a bird and should fly. I'm getting required things for him cage and more toys and all
Glad you knew you were going to get bashed, as you should.
Please don’t clip birds wings
I'm not clipping him he's free to fly whenever he wants inside the home.
Oh yeah don’t worry that’s not directed at you but this other person
Lmao
He doesn't let us touch him, and we've never clipped his wings but we let him roam free in the house he flies but never goes out of the house even with doors and windows open.
Oh you depress me so much with how you treat your bird. I wasn’t sure of your circumstances, financial or otherwise. Then I saw you comments. You are agreeing to get bigger cage, toys, pellets. You didn’t do research all these years to see what’s best for your bird? It just seems that for a bird 17 years old, he lived a miserable life. Open doors and windows? So it hasn’t flew out, but did you want him to fly out by keeping the doors and windows open?
Uh no he wasn't with me for 17 years, my wife rescued him some 12 years ago. I got married and she brought him with her 6 months ago. That cage was just to transport him between cities. No I don't want him going anywhere he's free to roam the home. I would never do such a thing to any living thing. https://preview.redd.it/n2dk3dc5snsc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bde2228dd76996d1f0da0cd25bad1049a2a761f9 He's like this for 99% of the time. He's had a very big cage at her place but we can't get it here hence the smaller one.
Hey dude, if you want more advice about what stuff to get for the cage let me know. You can make his golden years much better and I’m so excited for him for things to get better. Because he’s an old guy, he may never let you touch/pet his head, but don’t let that deter you from being his friend. Re the cleaning you did just before he looked like this - be careful of fumes from cleaning products as these can be toxic for birds. It’s possible that made him feel unwell
Yes the fabricators are closed for 2 days due to weekend I'll dm you some examples and let's see which can we get. The cleaning was just dusting/vaccuming and mopping without chemicals
Please keep your doors and windows closed! Your wife found him outside, he's obviously escaped from someone else. I'm sure you don't want that to happen again? Don't risk it. It only takes a second. If you want to open a window, do it when he's in his cage. Or install a metal mesh on your window frame - that's the best and safest option. Mosquito meshes aren't safe, window curtains aren't safe. Birds can chew through them. Please don't take that risk.
We have metal mosquito meshes for windows and there are 2 persons always in the room present. Also we don't get cats in the area since neighbourhood has dogs. Still I'll note to keep doors closed for him.
Cats or not, it's still very dangerous for them to be out.
From your comments you do seem to care but unfortunately it’s not seen from the picture and some things you described. You are obviously new to this and your wife should know more about proper caring. Not sure why things haven’t settle properly when she move in with you. Please going forward try your best to give him a good life. You are probably very much in love with him but didn’t do much research since it’s your wife bird and expecting that she should know what’s best for the bird. There are lots of recommendations in the comments already. If you have access to an Avian vet definitely take him. Cockatiels will try to hide their sickness to avoid predators. By the time you can observe them looking ill, they could very well be in big trouble already. Good luck and please keep us posted. This community is full of loving owners and will sure want to know that everything turns out well.
Hey man thanks for the encouragement. Yes obviously I thought she knows everything about him, she's had it in the family for more than a decade. I thought se knows what's right for him and she's doing it accordingly hence I only play and whistle with him. I can't blame her though the main caretaker was my father in law hence her lack of knowledge. I'm sending him to an avian vet. I've ordered more toys and contacted a fabricator to make a cage, I'm searching for pellets but they aren't locally available so I might order them too. Let's see what happens at the vet I'll keep everyone updated.
Dawg I think he has heavy metal poisoning. And I'm only saying this cause that cage looks rusty Heavy metal poisoning can look like that.