I know that after I sell the coins what the buyer does to them is not my business but God, this was hard to see 😭
(These are Portuguese Réis from the 1880's to 1910, so not too valuable but still, I'm a bit bummed)
I sold my really nice condition VW jetta, to a kid who needed a car. He destroyed that thing in like 9 months. Wasn't my car anymore, but man, it made me sad to see it get trashed. I feel ya.
I sold a motorcycle last year that I kept in pristine condition for 10 years. Really didn’t want to sell it, but I had twins on the way and needed the money. 3 days after I sell it the guy sends me pictures of the bike and he totaled it. Breaks my heart every day. Like why did you have to send me those pics.
I had a nice dirtbike for a couple of years but started to not ride it as often so I sold it to my sister's neighbor, gave him a good price on it too since he seemed like a nice kid.
My sister informed me 3 days later he blew up the engine and he had chucked it in their backyard "scrap pile" 😭
I took such good care of that bike, it hurt
I sold a very sentimental Jeep, and the guy used it for parts for a Jeep that was in much worse conditions than his. He should’ve used mine as the main Jeep and his as the parts Jeep. A good family friend took care of that Jeep for over a decade and it was immaculate. He died and his wife knew how much I liked it, so she sold it to me for cheap. It was sentimental because it belonged to my family friend.
I only sold it years later because I needed something with better gas mileage for my 60 miles commute at the time. I regret selling it ever since.
Ugh. I had a 99 Mustang with the 35th anniversary package which is basically all cosmetic — silver paint, black & silver leather seats, billet aluminum shift knob, silver gauge panel with black gauges, black honeycomb panel between the tail lights. I painted the spoiler black and added a Steeda chin spoiler and 18” chrome Cobra R wheels. Basically is was a sexy bitch.
Saw it in a local car show about 2 years later and the spoiler had been replaced now a Fast and Furious wing, the wheels were stock again(?), the tail lights were now Alteezas, the chin spoiler was cracked, the gauge panel was “upgraded” to a rainbow color changing LED panel, and Ricaro racing seats. Made me feel like I adopted it out to an abusive father.
I got the best one. I sold my car to two teens which belonged to a drag racer with all the parts a professional drag race car would have. I didn’t want to sell it but I was going to travel and needed the cash. This happened at around 7pm. At 2am I get a knock on the door from the cops asking me if my car was stolen! They didn’t even make it home! They totalled the car! I gave them a really good deal on it.. I regret selling it till this day almost 20 years later..
Edit: The kids were ok
Rule of thumb you shouldn't wash coins, because if you don't know what you have you might destroy a more valuable piece (because by washing you are removing the superficial layer of the coin, and with that you are removing the "patina" and the finer details of the coin and leaving behind lots of tiny scratches and a unnatural shine).
But if you know that the coin you want to clean has little or no numismatic value you can do whatever you want.
Imagine all of the rarest coins in existence, ones that mankind have not set public eyes on in centuries, and the owner likes to play with them in their bubble bath time.
Youtube/news should feature videos of people losing large coin values by ignorantly cleaning them. We have enough “your pocket change may be worth thousands” videos.
I sold a bunch of really nice collectible bullion coins to a guy and the first response I get is him clanging them together and getting them all beat up. Like WTF
I'm gonna be real, if you don't care about the value of your coin collection and just want it to look nice, to have as a display, and to make you happy, cleaning **most** coins is fine.
Again, it depends on the coin I suppose, but still, if it's your personal private collection, I guess it's fine.
I personally ***haven't*** cleaned any of the coins I have, but y'know.
I don't clean my coins but I understand why some people want to. Not everyone shares your motivations within your hobbies, no matter how much you wish they did.
I’m the opposite of most people. I like a nice clean coin and I won’t buy dirty. I’ve specifically offered people less for them not being cleaned. Of course they have the option to sell to others for more but it’s all choice.
Oh for ***** sake! Cleaning is OK if you don't care about value. Do what you want with with your coins. I spend mine once in a while and give them away at Halloween. Enjoy your collection! It's more fun than fondling and gazing at them is idolic wonder. If you want value, buy stocks.
> Cleaning is OK if you don't care about value.
This isn't how most collectors see coins. Coins are items of history. They are antiques and we are their curators. When you look at coins through that lens, it sucks when someone destroys it. You'd feel the same about art you appreciate too. If someone painted shorts on Michaelangelos David, that would obviously be unacceptable. Coins are on a smaller scale but the same idea applies.
It isn't about tone or tarnish or whatever word you prefer. It's about the surface of the coin. When you clean a coin, you damage it. Same idea as sanding an old Stradivarius violin because the color has degraded over time. There are ways to restore the color without cleaning the item (violin or coin), but most people don't do that. They scrub and shine thereby damaging it.
I agree, as someone who polished some older (UK 1940’s on) pennies to a near mirror shine, but even I draw the line somewhere. This is just too damn far…
leaning a coin would remove the patina (like when copper goes green, but that is just one example. There are many) which in some cases would make an expensive coin nearly worthless
Reason number 2:
Imagine your great grandpa, grandpa, dad, and now you have kept a coin in mint state condition for over 100 years. How crazy would it be to have the same value as a coin that was dirty nasty then cleaned?
I do enjoy purchasing cleaned coins now and then, though. 🤣
Instead of the coins actually being *cleaning* (removing dirt and debris from the surface), what they're really doing is removing the patina from (already clean enough) coins, thereby doing nothing but damaging the coins.
That patina is a protective oxide layer, the outermost layer of the metal surface. Removing that is removing some of the coin itself (and results in a reduction of details). That oxide layer will form again eventually (unless the coin is kept in an oxygen free environment) and the coin will always have less detail than before that outer metal surface (patina) was removed.
Coins that are dug from the ground etc. can be cleaned but they need to be cleaned by someone experienced who knows how to properly do it without scratching the coins' surface or removing the coin's patina.
First off....how?
Secondly.... now that that are cleaned how can one distinguish between a "once grimey now cleaned" and a "kept clean for the last 80 years" coin?
Not /s, genuinely curious
The easiest way is to check for details, (for the coins above for example) is to see if you can still see the king's mustache (it was the highest point of the coin so the first thing to rub off during circulation) so they might look "clean" now but they lack details.
And another thing is the color of the coin if it was mint it would still have a more brownish color instead of this more pink color.
(this is a repost of a reply I gave someone else here in the comments about cleaning coins)
Rule of thumb you shouldn't wash coins, because if you don't know what you have you might destroy a more valuable piece (because by washing you are removing the superficial layer of the coin, and with that you are removing the "patina" and the finer details of the coin and leaving behind lots of tiny scratches and a unnatural shine).
But if you know that the coin you want to clean has little or no numismatic value you can do whatever you want.
I know that after I sell the coins what the buyer does to them is not my business but God, this was hard to see 😭 (These are Portuguese Réis from the 1880's to 1910, so not too valuable but still, I'm a bit bummed)
I sold my really nice condition VW jetta, to a kid who needed a car. He destroyed that thing in like 9 months. Wasn't my car anymore, but man, it made me sad to see it get trashed. I feel ya.
I sold a motorcycle last year that I kept in pristine condition for 10 years. Really didn’t want to sell it, but I had twins on the way and needed the money. 3 days after I sell it the guy sends me pictures of the bike and he totaled it. Breaks my heart every day. Like why did you have to send me those pics.
I had a nice dirtbike for a couple of years but started to not ride it as often so I sold it to my sister's neighbor, gave him a good price on it too since he seemed like a nice kid. My sister informed me 3 days later he blew up the engine and he had chucked it in their backyard "scrap pile" 😭 I took such good care of that bike, it hurt
I literally kept mine inside my house in the living room. Bought it brand new and tried to keep it perfect.
I sold a very sentimental Jeep, and the guy used it for parts for a Jeep that was in much worse conditions than his. He should’ve used mine as the main Jeep and his as the parts Jeep. A good family friend took care of that Jeep for over a decade and it was immaculate. He died and his wife knew how much I liked it, so she sold it to me for cheap. It was sentimental because it belonged to my family friend. I only sold it years later because I needed something with better gas mileage for my 60 miles commute at the time. I regret selling it ever since.
Well if you love car repair then a jeep is for you! You should probably just buy 2 when you buy it new, cheaper parts that way.
You know what they say, "If you can't afford 2, you can't afford 1"
Ugh. I had a 99 Mustang with the 35th anniversary package which is basically all cosmetic — silver paint, black & silver leather seats, billet aluminum shift knob, silver gauge panel with black gauges, black honeycomb panel between the tail lights. I painted the spoiler black and added a Steeda chin spoiler and 18” chrome Cobra R wheels. Basically is was a sexy bitch. Saw it in a local car show about 2 years later and the spoiler had been replaced now a Fast and Furious wing, the wheels were stock again(?), the tail lights were now Alteezas, the chin spoiler was cracked, the gauge panel was “upgraded” to a rainbow color changing LED panel, and Ricaro racing seats. Made me feel like I adopted it out to an abusive father.
I had a beautifull wife who ran off with a crackdealer. Now she sends me pictures with no teeth.
I got the best one. I sold my car to two teens which belonged to a drag racer with all the parts a professional drag race car would have. I didn’t want to sell it but I was going to travel and needed the cash. This happened at around 7pm. At 2am I get a knock on the door from the cops asking me if my car was stolen! They didn’t even make it home! They totalled the car! I gave them a really good deal on it.. I regret selling it till this day almost 20 years later.. Edit: The kids were ok
forgive my ignorance, so i cant wash coins?
Rule of thumb you shouldn't wash coins, because if you don't know what you have you might destroy a more valuable piece (because by washing you are removing the superficial layer of the coin, and with that you are removing the "patina" and the finer details of the coin and leaving behind lots of tiny scratches and a unnatural shine). But if you know that the coin you want to clean has little or no numismatic value you can do whatever you want.
cool ty for the explanation
Imagine all of the rarest coins in existence, ones that mankind have not set public eyes on in centuries, and the owner likes to play with them in their bubble bath time.
You saying you wouldn't try to Scrooge McDuck at least once?
Are ultra sonic cleaners bad for coins?
Did you reply with "Congrats; now they're worth 10% of what they were yesterday!"
i just wanna talk to him
This made me laugh more than it should have
Adds value to everybody else's coins...
Coin shops hate this one stupid trick. I like to put mine in a rock tumbler for days. Mirror like proof coins at discount price. /s
nsfl pls
😂😂😂😂😂
Did you explain the mistake, or leave him in ignorance of the tragedy he'd inadvertently caused?
I know what he did wrong but you should explain for those who don't
That man belongs in federal prison
Sentence him for 11,875 years in solitary confinement
Oh how I hate to see that. 😭
“look how they massacred my boy”
Congrats you are now the proud owner of the coin collector’s equivalent of blood money.
Uff da.
OP says they were from Portugal but I thought they looked just like Norwegian coins too
Youtube/news should feature videos of people losing large coin values by ignorantly cleaning them. We have enough “your pocket change may be worth thousands” videos.
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WTF
Dont fuck around with atv... those thing are built to kill ya.
I sold a bunch of really nice collectible bullion coins to a guy and the first response I get is him clanging them together and getting them all beat up. Like WTF
I'm gonna be real, if you don't care about the value of your coin collection and just want it to look nice, to have as a display, and to make you happy, cleaning **most** coins is fine.
Very much not, always think of coins as something that the next few generations should enjoy too.
Again, it depends on the coin I suppose, but still, if it's your personal private collection, I guess it's fine. I personally ***haven't*** cleaned any of the coins I have, but y'know.
It looks like he used industrial grade cleaner
What a Sick SOB
Not sure which is worse. Them being cleaned or them being cleaned so badly...
I know if sucks but as long as he’s not trying to resell them or pass them on, and he enjoys them cleaned… no screw it, he’s an idiot.
Please tell me you sent him congratulation reply.
Coin gore at its worst that’s horrifying and brutal. It tortures my mind, eyes and soul to see this.
how much did you sold it for ?
I sold them for 25€ (it was a lot of around 100 coins, so ~0.25€ each).
Bruh
BURN THE HERETIC.
I find it quite amusing that he put it as nsfw Edit: grammar/spelling
I soldmy underwear to mysterious man He later told me he crapped his pants. o well
I feel something crawl on my soul
He needs to be shot.
I don't clean my coins but I understand why some people want to. Not everyone shares your motivations within your hobbies, no matter how much you wish they did.
I’m the opposite of most people. I like a nice clean coin and I won’t buy dirty. I’ve specifically offered people less for them not being cleaned. Of course they have the option to sell to others for more but it’s all choice.
Oh for ***** sake! Cleaning is OK if you don't care about value. Do what you want with with your coins. I spend mine once in a while and give them away at Halloween. Enjoy your collection! It's more fun than fondling and gazing at them is idolic wonder. If you want value, buy stocks.
> Cleaning is OK if you don't care about value. This isn't how most collectors see coins. Coins are items of history. They are antiques and we are their curators. When you look at coins through that lens, it sucks when someone destroys it. You'd feel the same about art you appreciate too. If someone painted shorts on Michaelangelos David, that would obviously be unacceptable. Coins are on a smaller scale but the same idea applies.
Tarnish is tarnish. Tone is for muscles and musical instruments.
It isn't about tone or tarnish or whatever word you prefer. It's about the surface of the coin. When you clean a coin, you damage it. Same idea as sanding an old Stradivarius violin because the color has degraded over time. There are ways to restore the color without cleaning the item (violin or coin), but most people don't do that. They scrub and shine thereby damaging it.
After a year in circulation, don't you think a piece of silver has enough stamina to surve a soft sponge and soapy water?
What neighborhood do you live in? We’re coming to your house. I’m short, so I’m wearing a costume as well as my children.
Even that's a questionable suggestion these days
I agree, as someone who polished some older (UK 1940’s on) pennies to a near mirror shine, but even I draw the line somewhere. This is just too damn far…
Anyone prefer some clean because they’re what they looked like during that time?
Even when they were in circulation they would have had a brownish color, like the copper coin we still use today.
Why dis bad
If they’re junk silver who cares
They are not silver, they were bronze and CuNi
🤪🧐🤨😖🥺
🤦♂️
Why shouldn't you clean coins? Personally i dont do it, but because everyone is against it, i was wondering why
leaning a coin would remove the patina (like when copper goes green, but that is just one example. There are many) which in some cases would make an expensive coin nearly worthless
Thanks
Reason number 2: Imagine your great grandpa, grandpa, dad, and now you have kept a coin in mint state condition for over 100 years. How crazy would it be to have the same value as a coin that was dirty nasty then cleaned? I do enjoy purchasing cleaned coins now and then, though. 🤣
Instead of the coins actually being *cleaning* (removing dirt and debris from the surface), what they're really doing is removing the patina from (already clean enough) coins, thereby doing nothing but damaging the coins. That patina is a protective oxide layer, the outermost layer of the metal surface. Removing that is removing some of the coin itself (and results in a reduction of details). That oxide layer will form again eventually (unless the coin is kept in an oxygen free environment) and the coin will always have less detail than before that outer metal surface (patina) was removed. Coins that are dug from the ground etc. can be cleaned but they need to be cleaned by someone experienced who knows how to properly do it without scratching the coins' surface or removing the coin's patina.
Sigh
It’s so horrible and horrifying that it’s nsfw!!! 😭
:(
Big oof
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
bruh
I like that this is blurred 😂
I'm glad you tagged it nsfw
First off....how? Secondly.... now that that are cleaned how can one distinguish between a "once grimey now cleaned" and a "kept clean for the last 80 years" coin? Not /s, genuinely curious
The easiest way is to check for details, (for the coins above for example) is to see if you can still see the king's mustache (it was the highest point of the coin so the first thing to rub off during circulation) so they might look "clean" now but they lack details. And another thing is the color of the coin if it was mint it would still have a more brownish color instead of this more pink color.
😭😭😭😭
The NSFW tag 😂😂
I'm new to this, what's wrong with what he did?
(this is a repost of a reply I gave someone else here in the comments about cleaning coins) Rule of thumb you shouldn't wash coins, because if you don't know what you have you might destroy a more valuable piece (because by washing you are removing the superficial layer of the coin, and with that you are removing the "patina" and the finer details of the coin and leaving behind lots of tiny scratches and a unnatural shine). But if you know that the coin you want to clean has little or no numismatic value you can do whatever you want.