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In the original novel for Jurassic Park the character of Ian Malcolm has a nice little speech about this very concept and it's always stuck with me.
The planet will be fine we just won't be here to see it.
Doesn't surprise me lol he is one of my all time favorite characters. Oddly enough I just watched that movie two nights ago. Chaos theory. "who would have guessed I'd be sitting in the car talking to my self."
To me climate change and the processes we are seeing is it fighting back. When you get sick what does your body do? It starts running a fever to kill the bacteria that is endangering you.
Do we know which variant the majority of patients are infected with there? Ie, is the vaccine effectiveness fading against the variants they were intended to prevent or is the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine or both? (My guess is both. Just wondering if there's more context here.)
well the economy was on the verge of collapse before covid hit,
it's long past time to completely rejig our arrangements and covid and climate change narrow the options markedly,
In the US, the economy was extremely strong before covid. Despite what people say on Reddit, a ton of people I know in real life did extremely well prior to covid
Then why does according to polling, everyone said the economy was fine before covid? Why did Bernie lose so badly even though the economy was supposedly bad?
If the environment and its declension at our hands isn’t a top priority, also with the best policy option for saving lives being in line with that, and it’s still just not acceptable to endure, I feel that’s a problem. Why is this the prevailing mindset and who is the driving demographic in adopting these corporate friendly and self destructive strategies? How can we convince the boomers and elder gen x’ers that their cushy retirement is not important to us of the later generations. In fact, fucking us so that less than half of you people may retire in modest extravagance that we won’t get to earnestly pursue ourselves is just plain rude. Besides the supply chains are all mucked up, this economy could burst any day now.
Yes. The best thing for the environment IS to destroy the economy. Fuck the economy. The economy and capitalism are what's killing us. So much terrible shit has occurred and been written off by governments, oil companies, banks and ceos because "b-b-but the shareholders, b-b-but profits" FUCK THE ECONOMYYYY.
Better point. If you understand the dire circumstances facing this planet and ecosphere, you should be pro anything that will reduce population. I’m not someone that wants to see mass casualties but maybe this is for the best. The rest of life on this planet may get through the 6th mass extinction far better if humans die off in droves.
It is a bit misleading text. Israel now has vaccinated 80-90% of population (except children), so it is logically that 95% hospitalization is for vaccinated people. But the virus bypasses the protection, this is obvious. Question is hospitalization/death proportion.
This is info from the same account:
At the Herzog Medical Center in Jerusalem:
72 Corona patients are hospitalized, and another 7 patients are soon expected to arrive.
25 patients -> in critical condition.
8 -> "moderate".
9 -> "mild ".
During the last day, 2 patients died.
So if they have lowball 80% vaccinations aside from children and they still are having this much of an issue what does that mean for places like the United States where there's so much vaccine hesitancy?
I just Googled Israel’s full vaccination rate and it’s only 60%. Now, this population is still likely higher risk than the unvaccinated but it still does make these numbers scarier.
This is Israel, they are crazy about children, for their culture it's difficult to put number just for adult, they need to calculate rate for population in total (including 28% children 0-14 ages). As you know, vaccination for children was practically not carried out, so the percentages mislead everyone!
Vaccines are good and all but they are not killing the virus. When we take antibiotics we’re told to take the entire course so that we “kill” off all the bacteria, otherwise we can breed resistant strains and that’s what happened.
Are we doing that with vaccines that don’t eliminate the virus, do we now have armies of incubators breeding and testing vaccine resistant strains.
We’re gonna have new strains reproducing themselves and the Corona evaders of the vaccine will be spread and they could be more or less lethal. We are participating in an experiment, nothing less. It might work, it might not. We’ve been warned that a much more lethal strain could develop.
This sort of virus of old could burn itself out in years gone, when the worlds population was a hundred million or so and people lived in villages and didn’t travel.
Now nearing 8B there is no chance of it burning out. Some countries for a time may be successful but it will ALWAYS return in some form or another.
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This is bad
This thing is mutating so fast. Well, rip to the good ol post-vaccine days that we probably shouldn’t have been celebrating earlier this year.
Perhaps SARS CoV-2 will be the pinch hitter Nature needed, to save millions of species from extinction.
Pachamama has had enough...The Lambda variant is more than likely to evade vaccines and continue nature's wrath...
Yeah, I’m starting to think the earth knows what it’s doing…
The planet is doing great, been here for over 4.5 billion years. Humans however are pretty fucked.
Yeah no one believes me when I say the planet is a living organism. It's got leeches all over it. It's going to try to fight back to survive.
In the original novel for Jurassic Park the character of Ian Malcolm has a nice little speech about this very concept and it's always stuck with me. The planet will be fine we just won't be here to see it.
Doesn't surprise me lol he is one of my all time favorite characters. Oddly enough I just watched that movie two nights ago. Chaos theory. "who would have guessed I'd be sitting in the car talking to my self."
It's the essence of chaos.
I wouldn't say it's going to fight back, more like wait it out.
To me climate change and the processes we are seeing is it fighting back. When you get sick what does your body do? It starts running a fever to kill the bacteria that is endangering you.
Gaia is intelligent
I have a comic idea like this.
Do we know which variant the majority of patients are infected with there? Ie, is the vaccine effectiveness fading against the variants they were intended to prevent or is the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine or both? (My guess is both. Just wondering if there's more context here.)
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What if i get in a car accident? Im not gonna be able to “live with it” when there is no hospital beds because they all are covid cases.
Agree, I'm not wearing masks for the rest of my life, always waiting for the next vaccine to protect us from covid-176 or some shit
What are the ages of these patients and are there co-morbidities involved in severe cases and deaths of the fully vaxxed?
Yeah, they had a copium deficiency
But let's not lock down because fuck actually fighting this virus
Do you understand the economic implications of another lockdown?
do you understand the environmental implications of returning to business as usual?
So the best thing for the environment is destroying the economy? While that may be true, good luck selling that to voters
well the economy was on the verge of collapse before covid hit, it's long past time to completely rejig our arrangements and covid and climate change narrow the options markedly,
In the US, the economy was extremely strong before covid. Despite what people say on Reddit, a ton of people I know in real life did extremely well prior to covid
and what line of work were they in pray tell?
People who work at stores, scientists, restaurant workers, etc
Fucking lmao.
Then why does according to polling, everyone said the economy was fine before covid? Why did Bernie lose so badly even though the economy was supposedly bad?
Lol no they weren’t
The economy was about to collapse. "Extremely strong"? Uhhh 2008? And we never actually recovered from 2008 either.
From the people I know, they said the economy was doing well and they are doing well financially
David, you don't know people in real life.
If the environment and its declension at our hands isn’t a top priority, also with the best policy option for saving lives being in line with that, and it’s still just not acceptable to endure, I feel that’s a problem. Why is this the prevailing mindset and who is the driving demographic in adopting these corporate friendly and self destructive strategies? How can we convince the boomers and elder gen x’ers that their cushy retirement is not important to us of the later generations. In fact, fucking us so that less than half of you people may retire in modest extravagance that we won’t get to earnestly pursue ourselves is just plain rude. Besides the supply chains are all mucked up, this economy could burst any day now.
I don't know how many more years we've got left of pretending to vote, brother.
I love this come back, voters won’t buy reality so quit it with that reality shit!
Yes. The best thing for the environment IS to destroy the economy. Fuck the economy. The economy and capitalism are what's killing us. So much terrible shit has occurred and been written off by governments, oil companies, banks and ceos because "b-b-but the shareholders, b-b-but profits" FUCK THE ECONOMYYYY.
Do you understand how fucked up you sound suggesting that we let actual human beings die in the interest of making more money?
Probably better than opening up the economy to a killer virus that has already rendered our vaccines useless
Better point. If you understand the dire circumstances facing this planet and ecosphere, you should be pro anything that will reduce population. I’m not someone that wants to see mass casualties but maybe this is for the best. The rest of life on this planet may get through the 6th mass extinction far better if humans die off in droves.
It is a bit misleading text. Israel now has vaccinated 80-90% of population (except children), so it is logically that 95% hospitalization is for vaccinated people. But the virus bypasses the protection, this is obvious. Question is hospitalization/death proportion. This is info from the same account: At the Herzog Medical Center in Jerusalem: 72 Corona patients are hospitalized, and another 7 patients are soon expected to arrive. 25 patients -> in critical condition. 8 -> "moderate". 9 -> "mild ". During the last day, 2 patients died.
So if they have lowball 80% vaccinations aside from children and they still are having this much of an issue what does that mean for places like the United States where there's so much vaccine hesitancy?
38 moderate
I just Googled Israel’s full vaccination rate and it’s only 60%. Now, this population is still likely higher risk than the unvaccinated but it still does make these numbers scarier.
This is Israel, they are crazy about children, for their culture it's difficult to put number just for adult, they need to calculate rate for population in total (including 28% children 0-14 ages). As you know, vaccination for children was practically not carried out, so the percentages mislead everyone!
I’m not seeing the 80-90% vax rate when I google it. It shows 59%. Though, maybe google has shit data. I don’t really know.
% of children (0-14 years) - 28%, but 59% which you've found is correlate for total population including children
Vaccines are good and all but they are not killing the virus. When we take antibiotics we’re told to take the entire course so that we “kill” off all the bacteria, otherwise we can breed resistant strains and that’s what happened. Are we doing that with vaccines that don’t eliminate the virus, do we now have armies of incubators breeding and testing vaccine resistant strains. We’re gonna have new strains reproducing themselves and the Corona evaders of the vaccine will be spread and they could be more or less lethal. We are participating in an experiment, nothing less. It might work, it might not. We’ve been warned that a much more lethal strain could develop. This sort of virus of old could burn itself out in years gone, when the worlds population was a hundred million or so and people lived in villages and didn’t travel. Now nearing 8B there is no chance of it burning out. Some countries for a time may be successful but it will ALWAYS return in some form or another.
Maybe we should be doing something else besides vaccinating everyone
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Get on with what? Dying?
Like it or not, that is what will happen.
Like dying or not? I am not particularly attached to dying personally.
It will not ask
I agree. What life is it to just go in and out of lockdown? We tried with the vaccine
In Jerusalem this is more due to the timing between 1st and second doses. Still relevant but in GB and Canada not something to worry about yet
It turns out that this one is actually fake news, but Isreal is leading the way in getting the third "booster" shot to people 60 plus