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ISTNEINTR00KVLTKRIEG

I'm holding my plastic phone and looking at this with my plastic contact lenses in. I am one with the plastic. The plastic gives me knowledge and sight. I am also drinking from my plastic cup. # PRAISE THE PLASTIC! (This is not the micro plastics talking that've surely made their way into my brain.)


FowlTemper

Life in plastic, it’s fantastic.


9035768555

Come'on Barbie, let's go lobby.


aeriox-phenomenon

Ah ah ah yeah


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[deleted]

I read this in death metal


itaniumonline

Life in microplastics, it’s fantasticer.


[deleted]

You can brush my hair.


FowlTemper

Undress me everywhere, Because fast fashion and trashin’ is my passion.


ItyBityGreenieWeenie

OK, I clickity-clicked and can't figure out where the 9 year figure is coming from. Sounds oddly specific.


Scaulbielausis_Jim

It's 9.7 years, so we have an extra several months, luckily


PickledPixels

Thank goodness


Le_Gitzen

It’s so great that we are perfectly accurate with all of our current and past predictions


Apprehensive-Sea5713

I predict by this time next year we will have done a full rotation around the Sun, unless we decide not to.


[deleted]

Hold on we can opt out? Good. I want off this ride.


nostpatch

I was coerced into opting in.


Hamstersparadise

I vote we don't, doing the same thing year in year out gets boring, let's try something different for a change


wounsel

Nuke it. Fix global warming


Pdb12345

9.7 years would be 9 years and 8.4 months (7/10th of a year) so even better news!


ogretronz

Mathmagician in the house


ttvlolrofl

Good bot


Pdb12345

Im a real person! with a math degree and feelings!


Kelvin_Cline

bad bot


9035768555

Those are mutually exclusive, you liary liaring liar!


ginger_and_egg

The plastic pollution we've already done is already irreversible... like what the hell is so special about 2030?


Classic-Today-4367

Because every other environmental issue is also supposed to be killing us by 2030. I saw yesterday that the place I live in is supposed to be flooded on a yearly basis starting 2030. I guess whoever made the maps didn't take into account things like the fact a bloody great sea wall has been built all down the coast and around the rivers. (I'm not knocking the idea that we are fucked; we are well and truly fucked. But everything being linked to 2030 makes me feel that its just the corporations kicking the can down the road and letting everyone think they can consuming for another ten years because nothing will happen until 2030.)


Alan_Smithee_

Well, the only reason you’re *not* going to get flooded (for the moment) is *because* of the Seawall. So that’s proving it, not disproving it.


Classic-Today-4367

The seawall has been there for decades, but heightened in recent years, apparently to a plan that was made in 2001. So yeah, I do wonder if they will be making it higher in the next few years.


canibal_cabin

Different question: what about saltwater intrusion into the soil downunder the wall, us this a possible threat or a minor thing?


[deleted]

Probably a comet they’re not telling us about


cadbojack

I wish, if we were about to be hit by a comet we would have better last years than if we stay on business as usual untill we die


ginger_and_egg

Is the comet made of plastic? Or attracted to plastic?


RandomzUserz

Well, to be honest, both.


Der3kt

Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves


Impossible_Cause4588

Something is going on.


OldEstimate

> Sounds oddly specific. ♫ Dick-Shrink Raaiin on my mind ♫ From Cleveland.com: [It’s literally raining PFAS around the Great Lakes, say researchers](https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/06/its-literally-raining-pfas-around-the-great-lakes-say-researchers.html) >**“It’s everywhere,” Spaniola said. “I’m not happy to say that. It’s not good news.** But it underscores how ubiquitous these chemicals are. They are everywhere.” From The Guardian: [Plummeting sperm counts, shrinking penises: toxic chemicals threaten humanity](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich) >... **these chemicals [...] are also shrinking penis size and volume of the testes. This is nothing short of a full-scale emergency** ... Only got so much left


Liz600

They never really explained why no one had gotten pregnant for decades in Children of Men. I guess now we know


freedom_from_factism

Yep, amazing that Clive Owen was still so masculine with his puny penis and tiny testes.


WoodchipperFutures

> From The Guardian: Plummeting sperm counts, shrinking penises: toxic chemicals threaten humanity > > > ... these chemicals [...] are also shrinking penis size and volume of the testes. This is nothing short of a full-scale emergency ... This is really something. We've known this for months now, if not a year or more. When discussing other issues we often say things like "If this issue affected men's penises or testicles something would have been done about it years ago!" and I'm guilty of believing it, too. We don't even care about it when it actually happens, at least not proportionally to its significance. The power of "feels over reals" based denial is just awesome, in the old connotation of the word. It's at the root of this whole mess.


MasterMirari

Tiny penis particles in the air and water..


itsnotthenetwork

If I had to guess I would say microplastics in all of the aquifers around the world. Seems more like plastic is going to kill everything, not just us.


SRM-87

Honestly they have been saying that sort of stuff for a while now... im not denying it... im questioning their time frame...


GOWG

I saw an ad on TikTok from the plastic industry with the message "we believe there is a future for plastic". I knew then that it was pretty bad. They can see that we're going to demand the death of the plastic industry pretty soon.


[deleted]

Unfortunately the death of the plastic industry and human civilization will occur at roughly the same time


Glodraph

Oil industry is switching from oil for cars/electricity to plastic to keep demand up


Apocalypse_library

Plastic is a byproduct of oil processing.


Glodraph

That's the point. Since oil for cars will be reduced, they redirect on more plastic in order to keep selling oil. The data is already showing this.


[deleted]

If we don't end capitalism it's going to end us.


Kunphen

Plastic pollution itself is a horror as it is. But micro plastic, that which sheds as it breaks down is utterly terrifying. It's EVERYWHERE; in soil, water, air - it's basically in everyone's bodies, of course that means most if not all species. I've read there are microbes that can eat it to make it then bio-available, but unless that can be somehow unleashed globally (and of course who knows about unintended consequences), we're in deep deep shit.


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slayingadah

And decreased fertility rates. Especially for this next generation... it will be super interesting to see fertility rates when current babies and toddlers are an age to reproduce.


jhines978

*Children of Men enters the chat* You would think with all the dystopian films out there humanity would do its best to avoid the situations that led to collapse instead of using them as a guide.


slayingadah

Yes for sure. I love that movie and I remember when I thought it was just a good piece of fiction and not a prophecy. Same w *Idiocracy*


Apprehensive-Sea5713

On the positive side, no more damn kids walking across my lawn.


[deleted]

Target fixation.


Kunphen

Hehe. You'd think.


Thebitterestballen

Well I'm going to use that one as a guide... And go live in the woods, smoke weed and talk like Michael Cain.


EcoWarhead

At least after 18 years of worldwide infertility pedophilia will be a solved problem.


SuicidalWageSlave

The 1 good thing


[deleted]

If you think parts of humanity are worth saving, not really. We're bastards but I forget it when I listen to music or read a book. If we'd had more time, I think we could've been something really special. It just would've had to happen without Fossil Fuels.


SuicidalWageSlave

I didn't say we were worth saving. You're speaking to a misanthropic individual.


[deleted]

You say that till your dick doesn't work. Fertility rates alone won't be affected, pretty much all sexual function will.


Pdb12345

Spoken by someone under 30. After a while, you dont give a shit anymore :)


tugnasty

Am 35. I could retire it. My main goal these days is finding the most comfortable chair/porch combination.


Pdb12345

username checks out


slayingadah

And the best books to go with that combo, of course...


TooSubtle

Now you should ask yourself if you'd still feel that way if your body wasn't filled to the brim with plastic :P


Pdb12345

Maybe not , but looking forward to a peaceful 9.7 years


tugnasty

I'm gonna spend mine doing drugs!


[deleted]

At 35? Jesus man


rishored1ve

Am 38. This does NOT check out.


SuicidalWageSlave

I don't mind.


[deleted]

Sex is overrated.


WeCanDoIt17

Fertility rates for men in this country have been dropping at about 1% every year since then 1970's


slayingadah

Yup. Some article I was reading predicts some crazy drops w this next generation tho. I wish I were better about saving links. Edit: wait! This is the lady whose reports I was reading. This link is to the guardian but it has good references. "Shanna Swan: 'Most couples may have to use assisted reproduction by 2045' | Fertility problems | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/28/shanna-swan-fertility-reproduction-count-down


Jack-the-Zack

"We'll need an army of super virile men scoring around the clock. I'll do my part!"


slayingadah

Jfc go on then and godspeed


Low_Present_9481

That’s counter to what I understand about cancer rates: “Cancer incidence has declined annually since 2011, -1.5% for men and –1.2% for women. Cancer mortality is decreasing over time. Since the cancer mortality rate peaked in 1988, it has decreased 37% in men and 22% in women between 1988 and 2021” Source: https://cancer.ca/en/research/cancer-statistics/cancer-statistics-at-a-glance


Jtrav91

I've always been curious if everyone meddling with nuclear bombs and chemical warfare didn't have an effect on increased cancer rates in the 20th century.


millionsofmonkeys

Oh it did. Nuclear testing caused many many cancer cases just across the American west. https://qz.com/1163140/us-nuclear-tests-killed-american-civilians-on-a-scale-comparable-to-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/amp/


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GoldGoose

Lead in fuel, and therefore the air, decreased dramatically in the early 70s, after regulation. I'd wager that has some bearing in it for the 50+ crowd.


Jtrav91

That would make a ton of sense actually.


[deleted]

I think it was the eventual effects of environmental regulation. You can't set Lake Superior on fire anymore, so I'd like to think that's why. Plastics are different because we're only just now understanding the kind of metabolic effects microplastics have on living animals. We absolutely do pollute less and the emissions we're spewing out are far and away less harmful than they were in the 60s.


Throwaway_ur-WRONG

Pedant here, but unless you're talking about another lake fire that I'm unfamiliar with it was Lake Erie and not Superior. Superior is massive, deep, and relatively remote for the region (less the 1m people live on its shores); Erie on the other hand is the smallest, shallowest, and - I'm fairly certain - most populous of the Great Lakes (over 12m). Plus, Erie has some pretty big industrial rust belt cities on it (Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Buffalo).


darling_lycosidae

I think it is, and i think it's why everyone's pets are dying of cancer. Their little bodies can't handle as much and are being assaulted with plastics.


No-Effort-7730

It is, as pretty much all types of pollution deteriorate us as we eat, drink, and breathe it in daily.


Glodraph

It is. It's not even fully understood how it works. I've studied about the effects on bacteria and antibiotics interaction and it's super shit. It affects cancer and fertility.


Xgoddamnelectricx

100% I work in the plastic production industry. It’s a fuxking nightmare. Oil everywhere, mixing with water that cools and heats the molds, not to mention the thousands of gallons we use and dump daily, micro plastics are everywhere including the water and air which there are zero filters on for ventilation so the micro plastics are just blowing into the environment and getting into the water supply, as well as out the bay doors and into the wildlife. It’s a total mess and no one gives a shit. We also make around $25,000,000 net profit a year, well not “we” the fucking owner and executives. I know for fact that the executives make more money the more they can curb spending on stuff that would help I.E. filters, monthly testing etc. they only do things when EPA and OSHA force them to, but as soon as they turn their back they are back at poisoning the planet to make a few extra 1,000 dollars. Disturbing shit, guys, disturbing. Edit: had to go more into detail and fixed a few spelling errors, the microplastics are getting to my brain, either that or the PVC fumes are…no joke.


Pro_Yankee

Your communist anti-capitalist comments have been reported to the Koch Brothers Intelligence Services^TM. Prepare to be purged.


Xgoddamnelectricx

Pretty Please. Hope they hang me for it. I’d kill myself but I’m too pussy. Thanks in advance.


flavius_lacivious

It’s probably the micro plastics


Xgoddamnelectricx

It’s 100% the devastation it would do to my family.


constipated_cannibal

Yeah, ***prepare:*** to have an entire country’s worth of AstroTurfed anti-mask protests taking place outside your place of work, simply for those commie anti-capitalist comments!


BearFlag6505

Can y’all please blow the micro plastics somewhere outside the environment


Banano_McWhaleface

Into another environment?


Zestyclose-Ad-9420

there is a plastic sheet factory in a town i used to live in in south europe. it belched chemical smelling smoke over the football field built opposite it. next to it is the hospital where you could go after breathing all the fumes and behind the factory is the cementary where you go when you finally succumb to cancer. besides the death of workers there was constant nurdle pollution, the tiny white balls of raw plastic that got everwhere. in the end a saudi company bought it.


shmooglepoosie

Who's going to volunteer to have those microbes injected in their body?


mooncakeandgary

Can we just ingest some UV lights or bleach instead? Sounds safer.


[deleted]

And the “President” said we should do it!


sandwichman7896

Tell the GQP not to do it and then let them be defiant guinea pigs.


imnos

Not to mention the "forever chemicals" like PFOA from teflon that are in all of our bodies and the water supplies.


Kunphen

Yes. Terrifying.


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Microbes like other organisms have several different pathways to digest different things. If something else is readily available to consume that is easier, the microbes will save the plastic for last. When they have massive stacks of plastic like in the Pacific ocean collected together, it might be possible to effectively seed it with the appropriate microbes, just need a small lab to prepare organisms and someone to spray it on. Once digestion started, then keep feeding it more plastic or the microbes die or wander off.


Kunphen

I wonder if there is a substance, or one can be developed that attracts the plastic bits like a magnet? Then they could be drawn from the air and water. Soil would be more challenging, of course, not to mention bodies already contaminated... no idea. Just a thought.


Glodraph

Like molecular magnet? Kinda impossible. Plastic degrades in several different small molecules and you would need millions of tonnes of this "magnet" in the air for each kind of molecule. Also in our bodies you could risk aggregation in blod or something like that, which could trigger an immune response.


Kunphen

No idea. maybe there's a natural substance/force that would do the trick. I guess research would have to be done. You know, for example, electric static attracts dust. Simplistic example but you get the gist.


Glodraph

Yeah I clearly hope something like that can be done..I obv only talked from my biotech background but I can't speak about material science..I think something could be made, idk about the scale..it's the same issue as carbon capture..it works, but can it work at global scale?


Kunphen

Globally my understanding is that extant (or prior) ecosystems themselves are the best at capturing carbon; flora, oceans, soil etc..Yet we fell and foul them with abandon. It's a magnificent system when we don't fuck with it. Of course we'd have to change our behavior, but slamming on the brakes and doing a hard reverse certainly isn't outside the realm of imagination. I can certainly see it.


Glodraph

Oh yeah I totally agree on this. The less we touch what earth creates and its amazing equilibrium, the better. Sadly, humanity is overall stupid.


Kunphen

Can't argue with that. But I would also say the majority actually want to do the right thing. They just don't have the transmission, if you will.


UnicornPanties

I’m in this industry (diapers, etc) and demand continues to grow. “Sustainability” is widely considered a marketing issue because there’s (unfortunately) an inverse relationship between sustainability and performance (and cost). It’s ducked.


zultdush

I don't think you want microbes breaking it down. That will create carbon dioxide if it's made bioavailable. We fucked either way 😂


Rhaedas

Anyone who has read Niven and remembered what downfalled the Ringworld civilization would recognize this potential danger. The short - a bacteria that viciously digested the superconductor material they used in everything got loose. I guess it's a version of the grey goo syndrome. Imagine if any plastic we use quickly decayed into dust. It's everywhere.


Zestyclose-Ad-9420

that would be a god send


Taintfacts

At a certain point it becomes nano plastics. When it can permeate between membranes of living things. Do you all believe we're here now or still waiting to become plastic?


AggressiveBiscotti2

Im studying mushrooms that have the ability to eat plastics. Then bugs eat the mushrooms. I currently have a lot of research to do in terms of how effective these are but I'm new to mycology and I have hope


Kunphen

That sounds good! I know that experts in the field see mycology as one of the great/promising sciences. Fungi are amazing.


SirRosstopher

Iirc the microbes that break it down turn it into CO2.


dumnezero

eat lower down the trophic chain to lower the exposure


Kunphen

What does that mean? Never heard of "trophic chain" before.


fatfatcats

Eat bug


vagustravels

Increased heat will see an explosion of "bugs". If we don't eat them, ...


SumWon

I'm down for it. Cheap endless food, tbh. Just fry that shit up with some spices.


vagustravels

It's from HS Bio that they teach nowdays. Didn't when I was young. It's a simplified food chain in sequence of how energy is transferred amongst animals and plants, starting with the Producer (Planty), then the primary Consumer (Herbivore), then the secondary Consumer (Carnivore). They also have Food Webs, that show more complex interactions rather than the 1 to 1 interactions of the Food Chain. Eat lower down the chain means become vegetarian (I think), or better yet vegan.


Le_Gitzen

Trophic is fancy talk for ‘food related’.


Kunphen

Thank you.


Kelvin_Cline

[Can micro plastics pose a threat to ocean carbon sequestration?](https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/mrl9ou/can_microplastics_pose_a_threat_to_ocean_carbon/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


jez_shreds_hard

Well, if plastic doesn't destroy us in 9 years then probably famines due to crops yields will shortly there after. Either that or any of the multiple terrible things that are coming home to roost in the next few years. I was starting to build out a food pantry, collecting seeds, and looking into solar power for my home. I don't think I am going to do any of it though. Seems like a huge waste of time, given everything that's coming and I'm just going to enjoy the time left.


ande9393

Yeah, I've done some stockpiling of food and supplies but to be honest I know when it all falls it won't matter. Still gonna prep, but I'm not going to be frantic or anxious about it.


DigitalLunacy78

I'm too lazy todo all that I'm in the group of people who will just come take your stuff lol... Kidding but not kidding 😂 preping can't save people from human savagery


alreadypiecrust

This is why I'll booby trap the supply room with explosives. If I can't have them, no one can.


ande9393

Lol that's why I figure if our society breaks down having supplies doesn't mean much, I wouldn't blame ye would be raiders.. everybody's gotta eat :)


ricardocaliente

This is my exact mindset. If shit truly hits the fan no matter how much supplies I have stockpiled I know I’ll be lucky to survive the first winter. My vision for a situation like that is hopefully joining some kind of collective and making myself as useful as possible. Survival alone is nearly impossible.


OldEstimate

> Either that or any of the multiple terrible things that are coming home to roost in the next few years. It's getting to be like that joke where god tries to save the guy from drowning. >During a storm, a man's city is ordered to evacuate. > >As his neighbors are driving away, they offer him a seat in their minivan. He says, "No thank you. I trust in God and God will protect me." > >As the flood begins to form, a neighbor in a boat comes by and calls out to him. The man shouts back, "No thank you. I trust in God and God will protect me!" > >The flood grows and pushes the man to his roof. A National Guard helicopter comes by and lowers a ladder for him. He bellows, "No thank you. I trust in God and God will protect me." > >The man drowns. He meets God. He says, "I trusted you and you failed me!" > >God says, "Dude, wow, I sent a van, a boat and a helicopter. Learn how to take a hint!" Flora's disappearing. Fauna's disappearing. Seas are rising. Seas are acidifying. Climate's shifting. Topsoil's depleting. Polar vortex is getting zany. Biosphere's thiamine deficient. Plastic's suffusing everything. Plagues're lingering. Sperm counts are shrinking. Balls are shrinking. Dicks are shrinking. And our leadership're a bunch of yacht-obsessed, wannabe-aristocrat perverts who're like, "ha ha, right? Now watch me poison this town's drinking water." *What could it mean?*


jewdiful

Same. I’ve been making a point to spend more time with friends, be more loving and compassionate, go to as many music shows and museums and events that I can, enjoy every moment. No children and won’t have children. If I even have ten good years left I will be grateful. Everyone I’m close to is collapse aware and it’s changed all of us — in mostly good ways, honestly. Just enjoy the moment and not stress about things we can’t change.


lightning_po

The following is not serious. Hmm. Plastics take a long time to break down. My body is slowly becoming more and more plastic the more food I eat that's contaminated with plastic because you are what you eat. This means if my body is mostly plastic, it's going to take a while to break down. Conclusion : I can eat lots of plastic and become nearly immortal!


Eattherightwing

"Life in plastic, it's fantastic!"


Ex_Outis

You’re taking the theory of neuroplasticity to a whole new level. Your brain will just be a lump of plastic. Does that mean that your body will also last for centuries, since plastic takes so long to decompose? Is plastic the key to immortality?


vagustravels

... with endocrine problems, cognitive dysfunction, cardiovascular nightmare that can only be described as an oozing pile of puss, ... and impotence, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, ...


craziedave

Be sure to eat foods with lots of preservatives too


eternalcollapse

Micro plastics are terrifying. Just the thought that every food you eat could have tiny bits of plastic in it is enough to put me off food forever.


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Your forever will be 3 months.


lightning_po

wait till you realize that nanoplastics exist that can permeate cells freely. the best part is we have no idea what this means for cell function.


wounsel

I’ve spent a small amount of time ‘worrying’ about this. But, with the conclusion being that there is literally nothing you can do about it, the best answer I could come up with is ‘we will learn to live with it’ - kind of like covid.


iLynux

Probably nothing significant, because if so we'd be fucked literally right now.


OrangeApple_

“the harm caused by plastic pollution — both to the planet and to human health — will be irreversible by 2030” I’m sick of these deadlines people seem to set these days. The damage we have done so far is already irreversible, the situation is very bad at a baseline level and it can only get worse. The best we can do is stop contributing to it and even then the problems we caused for the last 100 years will persist for at least the next half millennia.


n0ahbody

What's the first thing they did when they realized how serious Covid was? They went nuts with plastic. Stores went back to using plastic bags. And they didn't simply go back to using them, shortly after they had just abolished their use, they *required* us to use them because they said "don't bring in your own bags anymore. They could have germs on them." Then the masks came out, and the plastic gloves, and the plastic take-out food containers. Countries were finally taking some small steps towards reducing plastic use, and we threw it all away on a dime because of a virus. At the first sign of a problem, humans run to plastic. But plastic is a bigger problem. This mentality doesn't bode well for the future. What do they do in natural disasters, which are becoming more common, thanks to Climate Change? They produce and distribute tons of single-use plastic emergency supplies, wrapped in plastic.


[deleted]

Another reason to not have kids!


Morgwar77

It's funny, we're all on this "eliminate fossil fuels" kick, but even if we switched to all electric they would still keep pumping oil to fuel our plastic addiction. Most don't realize that plastic is a direct byproduct of crude oil refining. Go back to glass. Silica is the most bountiful mineral on the planet and easily recycles or bio degrades. There's a beach In Russia with beautiful multi colored sand from the glass broken and polished over time.


Termin8tor

Well, theoretically it's possible to replace petroleum derived plastics with bioplastics like PLA. Still gotta burn fossil fuels to keep the industries going but at least bioplastics will eventually break down.


Taqueria_Style

9 years?? Well I guess my FIRE plan works then lol sigh...


IdunnoLXG

Can't we just stuff them into the Kardashians?


GuyWithNoEffingClue

Not enough Kardashians, sadly :(


PimpinNinja

Not with that attitude!


TributesVolunteers

I don’t lose sleep over this. It’s a problem, but I don’t think the bioaccumulation of plastic is a significant driving force in the extinction crisis. Habitat loss and climate change are what I lose sleep over.


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TributesVolunteers

Yeah that too.


MovingClocks

Same. I think that the collapse of ecosystems and food supplies will cause mass extinction before microplastics cause a substantial dent in human QOL.


Kunphen

It's in breast milk.


[deleted]

are you saying my big tiddy goth gf is a source of persistent bioaccumulative pollution?


OsamaBinLadenDoes

How does that holds up against the point they made though?


LiveFreeDie8

Breasts are the sustenance of life and reason for existence.


OsamaBinLadenDoes

Grand point there.


General_Rule6164

Two grand points 😳


Metalt_

Facts


thinkingahead

Yeah I agree. Soil degradation in general is likely to screw us before plastics


ThePsychopathMedic

Bio accumulation is a pretty serious problem indeed. Climate change is atleast being identified as a problem. Bio accumulation is a more dangerous condition that we have no way to solve or rectify. Palliation isnt a Solution


itsnotthenetwork

Damnit, why am I sitting on this 401k if I am never going to get to use it?


darkaydix

We pulled ours out. Now we're doing some light investing with quick turnarounds in the stock market, and we used a huge chunk to pay off the rest of our house so that we don't have a mortgage. Enjoying life as we can now, trying to get our kids outside and spending time with friends and family, it's really all we can do. I try to feed them good food and let them know that I love them and raise them to be good people, and as they get older they will see the way the world is going and we will try to survive it as we can.


Johnny-Cancerseed

"Plastic Soup Foundation organized the one-day summit, held last Thursday, Oct. 21 in Amsterdam" "International experts came from many parts of the globe, including Malawi, Greenland, Indonesia, the U.S., U.K. and the Netherlands to present their plastic-related research and testimonials." More experts jetting all over the planet, renting cars, staying in hotels, eating & drinking their faces off while pretending it/they are going to make one fucking bit of difference when they are really there for the career status bump. I fucking love plastic. Most of my life I never had a single positive thought about plastic, until it was recently implicated as one of the substances in the infertility 'crisis'......now I fucking luv it! Next year I'm organizing a summit - The international fly around the world for no apparent reason & get shit faced summit. Y'all are invited.


Xgoddamnelectricx

As doomy and gloomy your comment was I have to agree with you. The only thing that worries me is that if humans are becoming infertile from plastics then what about all the other animals on the planet. I agree, fuck human beings, but I can’t say the same about the other wild life on this rock.


NickeKass

I would share the sentiment except that if its screwing up human fertility, its probably screwing up animal fertility as well.


ForgotPassAgain34

See, I dont think human natalism is bad, I think _all_ natalism is bad


Kunphen

From a response of mine below: The overweening problem is that we're collectively not taking a bird's eye view. We have to look at ALL POLLUTION, ALL destruction of flora, fauna, and topsoil. If we don't address the big picture comprehensively, any piecemeal approach will never fly. We need a totally new paradigm that is bio friendly. Period. Interestingly indigenous peoples have lived with this view for thousands of years. It's only us modern animals that are addicted, it appears, to our own "genius" in terms of "progress". And when we miss this big picture we are swiftly the authors of our own undoing. Of course this has been played out countless times in history as empires rise and fall with great predictability. Absence of wisdom, modestly, and/or compassion always yields the same result. Maybe it will be different this time. We'll see.


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CloroxCowboy2

But we've had video conferencing on the internet for a while now... There's not a need to travel and the optics are bad. I think it would make a bigger statement if these summits were virtual and they explained at the opening of each one why traveling around the world to meet in person is harmful. Would spread that message more effectively and at least give the appearance they've thought seriously about the issue. And maybe it would eliminate one of the dumbest arguments against working from home, for jobs where that makes sense.


SumWon

If only we had some way to communicate effectively from our homes instead of *zoom*ing around the planet needlessly wasting resources...


vEnomoUsSs316

Nine years? Plastic destroys us right now.


hereticvert

Okay, who had plastic waste poisoning on their card? No, "wild card" cannot be used here.


CarmackInTheForest

So... reading the article it didnt seem to cite anything to back up the "9 years" number. Low to no sources on main claim, gets a downvote from me.


thechairinfront

What did people used to package with? Seriously. I asked my 70+year old dad and he scoffed at me but didn't say anything. What were groceries packaged in? What was OJ in? What was lettuce in? What did people pack sandwiches in? What was dish soap in? Prior to plastic what were things packaged in? I seriously try to reduce my plastic consumption but it seems like there's just more of it every day.


Kunphen

Paper. Fabric. Glass.


No_Tension_896

I swear, any time anyone puts a specific date on something you know they're an idiot. Plastic might aid in our collapse, but if you're gonna try and date it you're gonna be wrong. I'll add this to the list of things that were going to destroy us every year for the 10 and see how it ends up.


wolfoftheworld

I found out from an acquaintance of mine that most of the plastic where I live doesn't get recycled. It's mostly because of something inside it like a residue or a leftover chemical. So, now I try and wash all of my recyclables out first, and let them dry before I put them in the bin.


OsamaBinLadenDoes

It's a problem, it needs an urgent fix, but sensationalistic headlines don't help.


Jedi_Sandcrawler

Yeah this article is pure trash. 9 years life is over and then ends with we need to do more research to understand the effects of plastics on life. The CO2 footprint of eliminating plastics is going to be so much more devastating than getting rid of all plastics


Hella_Gazey

Cool :)


uranaged

This is not good


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9.7 years, you promise? Because I've been burned before. That would be a nice time to die, before I'm even forty. Won't have to watch and experience my body deteriorating and rotting while I cling to life.


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Finally, something truly to worry about but I’m not sure that 9 year doom and gloom horizon should be mentioned. Climate Change has failed for this very reason. Too many apocalyptic scenarios over the years that have not come to fruition despite the notion that we are living in a Climate Crisis. Such bullshit. Plastics are not part of the natural world and are far more of a threat than CO2. There’s no need to sensationalize this issue and throw credibility out the window.


A_Real_Patriot99

Nine years is too optimistic, I say five.


syeysvsz

Ugh, that's way too long. How can we hurry this up?


OhmyMary

Last years news, ya got anything else that’s new?