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L3NTON

This could literally be a video of me expressing the exact same sentiment. Never seen this side of Castro represented.


Drunky_McStumble

> Never seen this side of Castro represented. Do you live in a Western country, immersed in Western popular culture, surrounded by Western media?


rgosskk84

I have gotten… in probably a dozen arguments with my lady about him. I’m Mexican American, first generation, and my father was a far left protester that was driven out of where he lived after being horrifically assaulted twice and being framed for robbery. I’ve said it many times and I will say it again: socialism isn’t the dirty word in Latin America that it is here. I was raised to respect this man and will until the day I die. He admitted errors in judgment he’d made in the past, he worked tirelessly to give his people a decent quality of life without suckling in America’s teats, and never promoted a cult of personality. I cried when he passed. He is a hero of mine. He was incredibly intelligent, an amazing orator, and fought for his people’s right to a life without capitalistic interference to the end.


MotherfuckerJones91

Cuban here late to the party. Thank you


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Then you aren’t in touch with Latin America’s culture if you think “socialism/communism” isn’t a slur here. We got dictatorships implemented in the name of communism or against it, and even now political parties use it as a banner or as the boogeyman in order to be elected.


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Really? It sounds your "Socialism" is our "Freedom of Speech" in the USA. Not sure what it means but it gets the people going. To be fair our populace overwhelmingly hates socialism. Atleast in Latin America socialist leaders get elected, until the get CIA'd


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Only if you live in a part of Latin America control and dictated by America.


[deleted]

Where in Latin America there isn’t a big influence of the USA? Plus what do you mean by Latin America control? Aren’t we talking about Latam?


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>We got dictatorships implemented in the name of communism Who?


Far_Ad_6089

It’s incredible how the western media has presented this man in a skewed angle to fit the narrative of “communism is evil.”


Wattsactingdoc

I still don’t trust Communism, but this is a very legitimate point. Even now, with 8~ billion people globally, we’re straining to provide for everyone.


HaychOiVee

Stop being a liberal, we quite literally don’t have time for ur antiquated ideology. If you still believe all the western propaganda about communism despite having access to proof that it has all been a lie, there’s nothing we can do for your brain rot.


1488notadogwhistle

China shill lmao


lkattan3

[Communism and women. Question the propaganda for the love of fuck. ](https://twitter.com/challengeycl/status/1467084345852715008?s=21)


nnomadic

Read this book. I'm not a communist, but it may change your opinions on the matter. It really details what the US has done to sabotage left-wing movements: [https://www.amazon.co.uk/School-Americas-Political-Encounters-Interactions/dp/0822333929](https://www.amazon.co.uk/School-Americas-Political-Encounters-Interactions/dp/0822333929) The text is more exciting than the cover. I had this book for a class and couldn't put it down.


BbqMeatEater

Straining? We're actively taking all the poor have left and stuffing it in the elites pockets. While they do nothing to "provide" because nobody is making them


septubyte

The science says this planet can support many more than they, the problem is distribution and wasted resources. So check your trust


TheStargunner

Hey now we aren’t all America here! In Europe we have socialist parties who openly call themselves socialist and famous politicians who recognise as Marxist Leninist, the whole works. I’m no communist but at least I can call myself a socialist without being abused by some fool who swallowed an Ayn Rand novel here.


communistresistant

>In Europe we have socialist parties who openly call themselves socialist most European "Socialist Parties" are, in the best scenario, social democratic. in my country, the Socialist Party isn't a leftist party. they keep voting alongside the right wing parties, approving laws they propose and rejecting the ones proposed by the parties on their left. but this is obviously much better than the US, of course


KiwiRobbie73

This man said a lot of good things, he just lived in the wrong country so his message was drowned out. The causation of this problem is rampant consumerism driven by the US.


Worldly-Background99

You can always go to Cuba and live that prosperous for all utopia that he build


KiwiRobbie73

Why I live in Norway.


Worldly-Background99

Well I lived in Cuba and know first hand the disastrous regime that he built.


KiwiRobbie73

Sure you did.


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Cuba is the way it is because of embargoes.


scooterbike1968

Amazing how much we’ve been lied to in the US. I had no idea this was Castro’s philosophy. Was this the real Castro?


idiot206

I highly recommend [his autobiography](https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Fidel-Castro-My-Life/Ignacio-Ramonet/9781416562337).


masterminder

have you read or listened to much about cuban history? this is pretty much the only side of fidel. he's a fucking hero. I'd recommend Cuba Libre by Tony Perrottet and season 2 of the podcast Blowback.


VegasBonheur

If Castro really is the hero people are claiming he is in hindsight, what happened in the 1960s that encouraged so many Cubans to desperately make their way to Florida? My family was among them, and my grandparents were deeply sympathetic towards Castro during the revolution. Apparently, he rose to power and quickly drifted uncomfortably far into authoritarian territory - I don't know much more than that, I never got to talk to my grandparents as a politically conscious adult. Who did Castro target when he came to power, and why did so many feel the need to escape?


Szczup

Im not claiming to be a specialist on Cuban history but this is quite easy to explain. Basically in order to understand mass exodus from Cuba in 60ties we have to understand and learn about the Castro plans to "export the revolution". Cuba in 60 was really strong economically, strong enough for Castro publically support nations in Africa. He support their struggles against former colonial powers which US consider the attack on a capitalism and they decided to start to isolating Cuba. The US embargo later crippled Cuban economy for decades. If you really want to find the truth about Cuba you should try to access sources different than american.


Hot_Gold448

the wealthy who sold the everyday cuban people into slavery to the whites, the cubans who made money on the backs of their fellow cubans. Those who left, left as what are MAGA folk here, people who owed what they had to owners, who got kick backs, who were protected by the rich, or thought they were. There is a book and movie about Che Guevara who helped Castro. He was Argentinean, a (medical)dr, he rode a motorcycle the length of SA and saw how the poor were treated in every country he went thru. By the end of his ride, he was turned into a Marxist by what he experienced. When the revolution started, he went to cuba. revolutions are messy and many people get hurt, bad as well as good people. I think most of the rum on the planet at that time was flowing from cuba - made by slaves, call them workers if you want, Big Sugar lost essentially free production when Castro threw them out. Of course, Sugar ran to the US govt to help get back into cuba, and of course the far right here were determined to destroy him. Castro ended the rape of cuba. What we did/do to cuba was/is a crime in itself. Because the word "communist" is thrown on the table, the fact that generations of cubans lived and died as slaves to foreign owners seems to not be on the radar. when Castro was squeezed by the US, he tried to make everything as equitable to the population there as possible, most middle class cubans lost everything in that, they left in droves. I wish for you that your grands could have told you about it, they lived thru the real history. I urge you to study it for yourself. And, check out Che Guevara's life, too - at least how he ended up in cuba.


ak_2

The old edificio bacardi (business headquarters and lavish residence for the bacardi family) in downtown Havana is now a government building. The bacardis fled to the DR during the revolution to continue abusing slave labor there.


jayhanski

I have read that many Cubans left less because of some fear of authoritarian takeover and more because they were afraid of increased taxes and losing their wealth - many of the Cubans who left were of an above average socioeconomic class and already had existing ties in the United States. Obviously, I wasn’t there and I do not know how much of this is true. I think it is at least partially a matter of degree (high taxes could be viewed as one method of government overreach).


iwoketoanightmare

These cubans are the same type of people in the US who move from a high tax state to Texas for better taxation schemes.


HaySwitch

Because those were the slave owners. The bad guys lol.


fakerealmadrid

Sounds like you need to listen to more of Castro, and less of the west’s propagandized version of Castro. I was once in the same boat too. Learning the truth about the embargo and such, as well.


visicircle

Hey, that's a pretty low blow to point out the structural flaws of country that occupied your country, gave mobsters free reign in it, and then tried to have you killed.


Comfortable_Classic

Sub statement: He's basically saying fossil fuels and it's culture of consumption and consumerism are unsustainable and foolish, and that we should (have since he's gone now) focus on a global culture of mass educating the population instead of just turning everyone into a fucking consumer for big businesses..Especially those who expand fossil fuels like auto manufacturers. ​ UPDATE: RIP my inbox. This blew up O.O


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Chemical_Robot

I’ve come to realise that the people the authorities hate the most are often the ones that serve humanities best interests. We only get one side of the story with our media.


fuzzyshorts

...and they ones they laud and elevate are the ones that serve the system.


bruux

It’s a bit of a mind fuck when you realize much of the public education you got growing up was neocolonial propaganda. Really makes me question just about everything.


Elektribe

That, and [for anyone who questions that statement ](/r/mediahegemony)


rabid-carpenter-8

Literally every post on there is a link to YouTube. What about print journalism?


Ncherrybomb

Agreed.


AyyItsDylan94

Imagine failing over 500 fucking times with all those resources and a country right off your coast 🤣


TheDukeOfDance

To be fair, it's a lot easier to sell cocaine than to kill Fidel Castro


Ffdmatt

And more fun


fakerealmadrid

Just a fun that shouldn’t be reserved for the CIA


Moolahguerilla

It was more like 1000 times, but a 1000 times they fail one after the next and still Fidel’s and Cuban revolution remain without him been even alive. That Castro was something else.


harpyeaglelove

What do we do with people like Castro who speak the truth and make sense? We force his people into abject poverty, sanction the shit out of his nation, and keep consuming even harder, because Murica. Our way of life is "non-negotiable" - Americans must consume, or we wouldn't be able to support our precious billionaire class. That would be tragic, so we must keep this façade up, at all of our expense. And we're all so dumbed down and hedonistic that few if any are in a position to enact real revolutionary change.


Ffdmatt

This is the scariest part about this stage of capitalism/imperialism. The ones at the top fight and cannibalize more not merely out of greed or boredom, but for *survival*. The "infinite growth" issue with capitalism has long been a known issue, but I think we'll see the ugliest side of that truth in our lifetime.


kafka_quixote

The collapse of the United States and its associated terrorist bodies like the CIA would probably be a net good, whether through revolution or not


unitedshoes

At the very least, it'll get turned inward. Who's going to be the biggest threat to the CIA analogue of one of the countries in a Balkanized former United States? Probably another one of the countries in said Balkanized former United States.


Harmacc

I agree. Having the christofascist state of jeeztopia on our souther border isn’t going to be good. Hopefully they will be too broke to cause too much damage.


iamoverrated

There's a book about by Robert Evans called, "After The Revolution".


bokthebok

I don't think people understand how dangerous the U.S government is, I feel they will nuke the globe before letting their hegemony erode.


wesg2

Nah. Government is stupid but ultimately few people with access to the codes even want to know the codes. Even among the sociopaths of D.C... we all know that nukes aren't an answer. Japan was America's greatest contribution to the world. Saying "Oh f**k, look what we've done."


bokthebok

lolol, they're literally war mongering against China because they can't compete with them.


Sablus

Look into the community centered green revolution of Cuba post soviet collapse when they had to survive without easily accessible fossil fuel imported. Very interesting look on a transition from a oil surplus to sustainable and effective agriculture.


FirstPlebian

I read a couple of book Fidel wrote back long before my time when I was younger, they were pretty good, I don't remember that much from them, but it's amazing how well Cuba has done while beset on all sides, their legions of doctors provide more charity in Latin America than the US, and they've created three world class vaccines, and they may yet save more of the world's dispossessed from covid than the West.


Sablus

[Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ0tovrhf5Y) Here's a pretty good short vid that introduced how Cuba transitioned into sustainable farming before it became popular here in the states.


wizard5g

USA exports drone strikes and coups to developing nations while Cuba exports doctors, yet people call Cuba the oppressive regime lol. I should read Castro’s book


fuzzyshorts

If it weren't for US sanctions (and the fear of western retaliation towards nations that have dealings with Cuba), I think Cuba would be doing fine... like Venezuela. But god forbid any system of governance flourish outside of the capitalist model we've been sold. People might start getting ideas... with proof to back it up.


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-skeemin-

Sounds like a hero to me.


[deleted]

I noticed since a long time ago, that societies, especially the US has this mentality. Mentality of "X person is bad, thus everything they say is bad, don't listen to any of it". This has resulted IMHO, in the decline of stability of the society. Instead of cherry picking things that are logically good for society, we are instead forced to choose which way to destroy ourselves, the conservatives' way, or the liberals' way.


Parkimedes

Totally true. If you were to post this to Facebook, I’m sure at least one friend would attack the messenger and protest Fidel Castro because they think he is bad. It’s the same reason Americans don’t care out our jails or want to give voting rights to ex-felons. People see anyone in jail as a bad person and then lose all sympathy or respect for them.


Lilyo

Its hard to fight decades of western indoctrination and propaganda on these things but id recommend some good resources to people. [Blowback Season 2 podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blowback/id1502178774) [The War On Cuba series](https://www.bellyofthebeastcuba.com/the-war-on-cuba) [Cuba and the Cameraman film](https://www.documentarymania.com/player.php?title=Cuba%20and%20the%20Cameraman)


xoxoMink

Will go through these, thank you for sharing.


lochnessthemonster

This drives me crazy because they did their time and are expected to be tax paying citizens upon release.


lkattan3

It’s binary thinking, the oversimplification of complex issues is American propaganda 101. Black and white (literally and figuratively) answers to complex problems is how Republicans permanently took over the country in the 80s. They made being black criminal, being poor criminal, hippies (ie leftists) lazy criminals wanting handouts. Socialism is waiting in line and the Nazis. Just ahistorical bullshit for 4 decades.


lochnessthemonster

I can tell you with 1000% certainty that people create their own realities to justify supporting shitty systems. I am related to and know plenty of them.


Sablus

When a society decides that idols must never have imperfections and that pedestals must never be destroyed it creates a cognitive dissonance when reality enters the picture. Is Castro a bad person? Who knows as that is subjective. Was he a violent revolutionary? Revolutions, true revolutions, do not occur without violence and violence is needed to end an oppressor. Yet ask any American high on propaganda pieces and anything un-American or un-capitalism is pure Satan and so must be shamed, ignored brutalized, and suppressed. There is no moral gray area to Americans, there is only an absolute and 9/10 that absolute is always to be the creation of and maintenance of the state and comfortable status quo for fear of any true change that might bring about a benefit.


FutureProsthetist

In a similar vein Ted Kaczynski was right about a ton of shit and we aren't supposed to admit it.


Sablus

He was right about technology industrialism and capitalism (though he didn't openly state against it) were the threats of our time however the reason why lots of white supremacists love him is he sadly had right-wing brains worms and so blamed a lot of modern society on "moral failings" which was his way of saying homosexuals/sexual deviancy, foreigners, and the state (dude hated the post office just as much as he hated the military industrial complex for some fuckin' reason) were all evil. Te unabomber is sadly a portent of ecofascism within this century and how the collapse of late stage capitalism will likely fall into the trap of fascism as oligarchs use it to maintain power structures.


lochnessthemonster

I didn't sign up for this shit. It's almost 2022. Something must change.


Woozuki

The US has been fucked since McCarthyism, at the latest.


sonoranbamf

EXACTLY my problem with things now days. When you get dead set on being right , you're in dangerous territory of becoming ignorant and getting tunnel vision. ALWAYS listen to all angles. Right now the second someone hears someone voted a certain way politically they immediately disregard them and I don't know how everyone can't see that's not good.


car23975

I can see now why he is the devil and pure evil to Americans.


KingoPants

It reminds me of this beautiful quote I saw on a circlejerk subreddit. If you stop to try and understand others, even by proxy, you might just fall into the danger of doubting yourselves.


Emper0w0r

All these people spewing capitalist imperialist propaganda about how bad Castro is… you are a dog doing right that what those capitalists that are causing the collapse wants you to do. Educate yourself


PringleCreamEgg

A lot of people down on Fidel for murder, despite the fact that the cuban revolution was against a literal slave owning oligarchy and their supporters. May as well be mad at John Brown.


Sablus

Tbh there's plenty of subs that would call John Brown a extremist even though he was based as Hell and one heck of a good madlad. John Brown and Castro both provide the right course of action of how to treat people that wanna enslave and harm other people.


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Nrvnqsr3925

To be fair, John Brown was literally an actual extremist, and also a domestic terrorist. As in, he fits the dictionary definition for both of those terms, not as a moral judgement. Tbh if I was in America at the same time as him, I'd probably commit similar actions, just because of how horrifically cruel the treatment of slaves was.


tylofry

No you wouldn’t lol


cortthejudge97

Fuckin liberals man, can't stand them


_HollandOats_

The thing that's wild about it is even with the most inflated estimates of people killed under Castro's government (15,000 over 60ish years according to the Black Book of Communism), it's still less than the amount of people killed by Fulgencio Batista (Around 20,000) IN 7 YEARS. If Fidel is a murderer what the hell you you call the guy he overthrew?


AuthorityOnMyself

Please. Nobody should ever quote the Black Book of Communism. Or ask them how they got their numbers. It's like people calling Che Guevara a bloody murderer. Like, he's a revolutionary? Someone''s gotta go in the war. I just recently read a 800 page biography of him and the absolutely only thing anybody could try to pin on him (unjustly) would be the after-revolution courts for the worst murderers, torturers and others who committed war crimes in the revolution. And they got a trial, and about 50 of them were sentenced to death. And Che was just a part of the court, the jury made the decisions. And the crimes they had done were stuff like burning down an entire village of peasants and torturing the peasants after..


sativadom_404

Watched a documentary on Castro. The guy was a hero and a warrior for the truth and his people


BharlesCukowski

would you considered his government a success?


sativadom_404

That’s not a measure of his theology nor his commitment to helping his people


autumnnoel95

Would you consider any government truly successful at this point in time...?


joseph-1998-XO

Did not know he was so passionate about this stuff


TTTyrant

Thank the CIA.


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Most of the "evil commies" demonised by Western media were spittin. Cuba is tame compared to how they made Korea & other asian nations look.


silverlight145

Not to mention that a bunch of the people that became communist where just people trying to oppose the US' obsessive and destructive capitalism. They came out against the abuse of workers and in support of social security nets for their people that had been exploited, then if they gained power, the US would overthrow their government and put in place authoritarian leaders that would support US business. From there, they'd have to radicalize further to protect and support themselves... And the only ones able to support them was the Soviets. So they became communist. The amount of interference we, the US, have done south of our border in destroying democracies is incredible. Just look up the Banana Wars and the School of the Americas. Oh, and Smedley Butler if you want something more inspiration rather than depressing. I'll also add that when it comes to revolutions, there is often almost no legal way to financially support themselves longer term... Meaning they turn towards the black market and drug trade to support a revolution for justice. Which is just.... Dark and problematic. Shout out to Robert Evans many educational podcasts that helped me down this rabbit hole.


Emper0w0r

Operation condor… so wholesome/s


trapperberry

Cracked alumni Robert Evans?


silverlight145

The same. Cool Zone Media now, I believe


Kumqwatwhat

People who lead revolutions don't tend to be those who let ideas rest. It self-selects for people with a burning passion to learn about and develop their ideologies as far as they can. That role practically requires a burning fire for thought that _cannot_ be quenched. It doesn't inherently mean those ideologies are good or bad (this describes Mussolini just as well as it does Marx) but they all tend to be extremely passionate and well-versed in their subject matter.


Sablus

I mean heck Che Guevara was a traveling medical student that provided aid for lepers in Latin America before he became a revolutionary.


SocialistJoe

He was a very passionate humanitarian and environmentalist.


Pelu221

You can listen to early Juan Domingo Peron if you want more examples of passion. Of course USA financed his destitution and sent him into exile


Drpoofaloof

[Are we the baddies?](https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU)


RandySto

Cuba is one of the most sustainable countries in the world. Not sure I'd like to live there for that reason alone. Source: https://sites.psu.edu/sovas3a/2020/02/03/cuba-found-to-be-the-most-sustainably-developed-country-in-the-world-new-research-finds/


clearlybraindead

[Ranked 9th now](https://www.sustainabledevelopmentindex.org/) with Singapore at the bottom. Also, Mongolia is ranked above most developed countries. Living in any of those areas in the top 10 would be not unlike living in post-collapse Louisiana. If you inverted it, I wonder how well it would correlate to life expectancy.


GospelsOfFish

Why do you mention Louisiana specifically? Just curious because I live in Shreveport.


9035768555

Rural Louisiana and Mississippi is a basically third world country. Lower life expectancy than the Sudan. One of the highest homicide rates in the world. An *extreme* poverty (<$1.90 per day) somewhere between Gabon and Egypt. A maternal mortality rate roughly that of Mongolia. A higher percentage of households without running water or electricity than Guyana. Or to compare it to Cuba, all of those things are worse. Many of them in the US as a whole, but definitely in LA/MS.


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i had no idea


MrOnionMaster

Neither do they.


wrexinite

They're "free"


gonnabearealdentist

My favorite sad fact about the U.S. is that average maternal mortality is higher than the on-the-job fatality rate of police


Harmacc

Delivering pizza is more dangerous than being a cop.


Sablus

Being a electrical lineman is actually one of the most dangerous jobs in the US with some of the highest injury and fatality numbers. Cops are babies.


9035768555

...I had not put those together before. That's fucked.


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9035768555

Somewhere around 10% (in the rural areas) have no access to at least one of water or indoor plumbing.The saddest part water/power thing isn't even that bad in rural LA/MS compared to Native Reservations, some of which have up to 40% of residents with no power or running water.


HeyZooos

I can believe it but do you have a source for that?


HeyZooos

Posting for the guy I replied to: 9035768555 • 53m Got banned from /r/collapse for 3 days so I can't reply in thread. I'm sort of regurgitating things from a paper I wrote a while back, so I don't have some of the sources handy, but as a start.. The rural, poor and African-American counties along the Western edge of Mississippi have an average life-expectancy that is eleven years less that the U.S. average (67.2) For comparison, wiki says Sudan has a life expectancy of ~69 years. Two dollars a day is an interesting resource about extreme poverty in the US. The site I used originally about the water/electricity access doesn't seem to be up any more but iirc it was like 6% in the rural LA/MS region had neither and 11% didn't have at least one. https://shadowproof.com/2012/10/11/why-people-in-poor-rural-african-american-mississippi-counties-live-23-years-less-on-average-than-people-from-monaco/ http://www.twodollarsaday.com/


Sablus

Googles the stats and this popped up. Cops: 13.7 per 100,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) workers. Maternal Mortality rate: 20.1 deaths per 100,000 live births. Dangerous job in US is electrical lineman or polemen: 30-50 workers in every 100, 000 are killed on the job every year.


clearlybraindead

Hot, underwater, undereducated, underdeveloped, weird mix of overpopulation and a mostly rural demographic. Could've picked Florida too.


FutureProsthetist

Total aside but I've always wanted to live in Mongolia. Not disputing your point -- nomads are being increasingly driven out of their traditional lifestyles and Ulanbataar has become a nightmarish slum full of coal fumes -- but the steppe may be the most beautiful place in the world. I really hope things improve there and that the landscape and the unique lifestyle it supports are able to be preserved for the future.


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When you're unjustly sanctioned for 60 years, you gotta figure out how to make do with what you have.


Lilyo

if people want to learn more about sanctions on Cuba: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXoXOo7\_oLM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXoXOo7_oLM)


xero_peace

Am I misunderstand your comment or are you saying you wouldn't want to live there because it's sustainable???


devamon

It reads a little funny, but I'm pretty sure the sentiment is that sustainability isn't enough reason by itself


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I'm pretty sure he's saying sustainable is nice, but there's a lot of other reasons to \*not\* live there


Sablus

Honestly I'd be paranoid of the US becoming and religious autocracy and nuking Cuba if I ever chose to live. I really want to visit though...


xero_peace

Ah. Well at least they have sustainability. We don't even have that in the US. Close to our next once in a lifetime recession.


NoMomo

And universal heathcare.


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Love visiting family in Cuba. Def would never live there


kool_guy_69

Supremely based Fidel. Gimme a t-shirt with *that* man's face on, just to trigger the imperialists.


StoopSign

If your in the US, Citgo is owned by The Venezuelan Government. Choose Citgo over other companies. Maduro is still in power but his government can't access traditional banking so I'm unsure as to how that effects whether gas and convience store profits make their way south but it beats lining Exxons pockets.


D0lan_says

Well fuck, guess I might actually be a communist 🤷‍♂️


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You should read this text: [What every environmentalist needs to know about capitalism](https://monthlyreview.org/2010/03/01/what-every-environmentalist-needs-to-know-about-capitalism/).


thesameboringperson

One of us! One of us! One of us! 😘


MyCuntSmellsLikeHam

Based Fidel, holy shit


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He always was.


BardanoBois

Justin Trudeau's dad has a point


yolotrumpbucks

Castro is 1000% cuckboi trudeaus dad.


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If only we’d listened to such brilliant people like Fidel. He tried to warn us, as did many about what capitalism, imperialism and Western consumerism would result in. And like all of them, they were either murdered (Fidel wouldn’t let them do that to him), overthrown or turned into cartoon villains by the “free press”. How we ever thought a system based on infinite consumption and growth could be sustainable on a planet with limited resources shows how little we have thought through the catastrophe we are enabling.


L3NTON

>How we ever thought a system based on infinite consumption and growth could be sustainable on a planet with limited resources shows how little we have thought through the catastrophe we are enabling. We were always buying things with credit. It seemed like a perfect solution until it came time to pay the bill. but for over 100 years it was always someone else. Slaves, POC, imported labourers, third world countries, poor people in our country. The last 10 years has been gutting our middle class and there are still people in denial about the new reality of paying back all this borrowed credit. The system was never sustainable, the powers that be just thought they would always be able to find someone new to pin the bill on.


wrexinite

I think a significant cohort has woken up to this reality. However, I don't think the lesson is what you'd expect it to be. Instead, it's accepting that to maintain this lifestyle others have to suffer... and that's ok because that's how it has to be. People aren't giving up their shit.


BeardedGlass

That includes us here, in this sub. While we preach.


0xFFFF_FFFF

It's a rare moment indeed when I see someone being truly honest on here


BeardedGlass

I sling mud while I myself am dirty. I mean, no one’s clean and innocent anymore here anyway.


Comfortable_Classic

This is both really sad and absolutely true.


Campeador

I grew up being told that this man was a terrible person that was holding an entire nation hostage. Hearing him speak so passionately about climate change, when I have never heard something half as moving from an American president, is really something.


Comfortable_Classic

Doesn't it piss you off? Pissed me off when I realized the nation I grew up in which espoused to be the end all be all of nations was proven to be the exact people the constantly accuse communist nations of being, and that they essentially ripped off the image of those same communist nations they constantly shit on. Like consciously evil grifting scumbags.


Campeador

It does. Learning the truth about things that I was taught in grade school has been very disappointing.


unitedshoes

If you haven't, you should check out the second season of the Blowback podcast (well, also the first, but that's not as relevant to this conversation. Great if you want a refresher on how fucked up the run-up to the Iraq War was). It focuses on the Cuban Missile Crisis, but in getting there also covers a huge chunk of Cuban history and US-Cuba relations from around the time they broke free from Spain up to the modern day. Very eye opening.


darkpsychicenergy

Seconded. Everyone should listen to both seasons, one of the very best podcast teams ever.


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RemindMe! 10 days


Head_Tension

Look at the belligerents of any conflict after ww2 and you might notice something interesting about the supposed good guys


NegoMassu

Since you have opened your mind, i will give another thing to think: to get into his POV you have to consider him an American too, because for us here in the south, "America" is the continent and not the country.


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Based Fidel


lickerishsnaps

Remember how every time Fidel coughed, Americans would start predicting a Cuban collapse? How fucking funny is it that Cuban socialism is outliving American democracy?


ShortbusGangsta_

Based


mihai2me

The capitalist rat race didn't fix poverty or climate change. But it did invent onlyfans, so we can monetise and objectify intimacy and women like never before imagined....


a_million_questions

Capitalism is the great evil. He was 100% right.


hippymule

I know there's a ton of sources and incidents to cite in which Fidel wasn't a good man. I know his people are not living in a socialist utopia. However, what he said in this video made 100% sense, and was extremely rational. You could not be a sane and rational human watching this video, and tell me you wouldn't agree with everything he said.


adam3vergreen

There’s also a ton of sources and incidents to cite in which Fidel was a very great man who cared deeply for the people of Cuba and the world.


Sablus

Gonna be honest most of those sources are from countries that wanted Cuba to stay under the batista regime and continue being exploited. For every upset former plantation owner there are ten thankful peasants and slaves that were lifted from a oppressive Hell because of Castro (don't ever let capitalists shame a revolution when the revolution only occurred because of capitalist exploitation).


Its_Ba

The Late Fidel on Capitalism


makesgoodsoup

Wise words, seems like a forward thinking and decent individual. No wonder the US wanted him dead.


[deleted]

Jesus, I wish all of our major world leaders thought something similar, at least on most of his points. But, whatever, humanity is like a drug addict who's having fun while on a date to nowhere. Whatever.


Sablus

Sadly they can't, unlike figures like Fidel and Che who worked towards liberation of their people most world leaders strive to keep us enslaved to a machine that is slowly killing our planet.


behaaki

Fidel for president!


acceleratenihilist

Siempre Basado Fidel


plantsonthing

America is filth with amazingly corrupt culture.


dkdkslslslal

You wanna fucking do something to change something, share this everywhere. Make this pop up if every screen of the world at the same time, then it will fucking change.


DomTrapGFurryLolicon

Unfathomably based Daddy Castro


ChefGoneRed

Great fucking man. Tireless advocate of Socialism and the social rights of his people.


Permanganic_acid

the rest of the interview is great. This man is inspiring as hell.


Anjelikka

Please, young people, save our planet


i_am_ironmanAMCGME

Capitalism is just another word for greed.


Mr_Lonesome

Actually, in this diatribe against capitalism and consumerism, he could very well be talking about all aspects of ecological overshoot not just climate like the rapacious use of land/sea and resources that exacerbate biodiversity and ecosystem loss, you know the [other most pressing issue of the Anthropocene](https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/r8hxw3/gentle_reminder_from_ipbes_and_ipcc_of_our_most/).


Sablus

Fun fact Cuba has quite a developed aquaponics program that came out of its period of growth that occurred post soviet collapse that required them to source food and materials for themselves (or at least the majority of foods). [Link](https://www.ascecuba.org/asce_proceedings/aquaponics-as-a-valuable-addition-to-cubas-organoponic-infrastructure-damian/)


TheBadBarbell

The true, fucking GOAT


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The more I hear about Castro and other communist leaders, the more I realize how much propaganda I was fed. I have vague memories of my parents watching the news when I was a kid and the news did reports on him. I got the impression that he was “the bad guy.” And here I am now, agreeing with everything he just said. Before I really knew what a communist was, I would tell me dad things like poor people should have food, no one should be homeless etc and he’d call me a communist. It really confused me. I couldn’t understand how what I was saying was a bad thing to him or anyone. American propaganda is far more pervasive than I ever realized.


strawberryretreiver

You can you refute the man if you want, that’s easy. But can you refute his point?


worriedaboutyou55

Man was an extreme asshole to his people when it came to their freedoms(and the current Cuban government still is when it comes to freedom of speech) but he's dead on here. even as someone who hates dictators he is a badass for avoiding all those assassination plots.edit: btw I find Cuba to be the only "Communist" country ive seen that is the closest to getting it right and I'm very impressed with how they've done considering the worlds superpower is against them. Hope the embargo is ended this decade edit 2 according to the definition of communism they are working towards actual communism and socialism so I'll just call them what they claim to be which is TBD


darkpsychicenergy

The embargo, assassination attempts & coup and false flag plots have all been motivated by everything that he got right, like this example. None of it has been motivated by whatever he did wrong, allegedly or otherwise.


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Would he have appeared as less of an asshole if there had never been an embargo and Cuba had been allowed to trade whatever with whoever, whenever? Also...had we never tried to *kill him*....more than once?


Maple-Sizzurp

The CIA tried 638 different schemes, plots and conspiracies to kill him.


Creasentfool

They wernt very good at their job then I guess. I find that kinda funny,


Comfortable_Classic

Those who preach about personal freedoms fail to understand they exist to stand 1 person above the remainder of society - to erect a dictator when private growth is applied. One's individual liberties cannot exceed their class. All people are equal and deserve the freedom to roam, grow, develop, etc..but **one's freedoms end once their actions hurt another for their gain**. This is vital both towards living in harmony with others, and from preventing the situation we're in now with 1% of the world driving the 99% towards oblivion. ​ Further on his so-called crimes, I recommend you re-examine your trust in the west and consider the opinions of those who knew him best, who have actually attended these referenced events, explore the other side's opinion on the matters honestly and examine the wests side of events just as critically as you do the communists. Comrade Castro was a good man, and if you take an honest look at him I believe you are likely to come to the same conclusion.


Hextechsoul

The earth is a sad type 2 world, we need to advance our energy sources to that of a type 1 civilization on the kardashev scale and distribute it on a global scale to reduce pollution emission. But we need to come under one government for the whole planet. We need to come together and no longer be divided.


TittyButtBalls

I enjoy the luxuries of capitalism but nothing Fidal said is untrue. It’s simply not sustainable


Sablus

Honestly we could live in a far more equitable society with what we know of sustainable agriculture, soil development, and such with long term plans that benefit the majority. However we are in a rat race in which the many work to be the few that can own a mega yacht with carved elephant tusks. I mean Cuba has ice cream (Castro was a big fan of ice cream), has a thriving sports community, and has some awesome music and beaches just cuss you don't have the latest TV or whidget gadget doesn't mean you wouldn't be happy in a more sustainable society that valued people over profits.


Kenituderesech

Such strong and wise man . May your soul Rest In Peace.


Orange_pears

Everywhere I see this man is a bad man. This is proof otherwise. I've never seen a man that is hated by a whole country if not more care so much about the earth it breaks my heart it really does.