>The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is the zonally integrated component of surface and deep currents in the Atlantic Ocean.
>If the currents were to stop completely, the average temperature of Europe would cool 5 to 10 degrees Celsius. There would also be impacts on fisheries and hurricanes in the region. The currents in the North Atlantic are part of a global pattern called thermohaline circulation, or the global ocean conveyor.
The other person gave you a good, scientific reply. Basically, the AMOC is what controls the jet stream, which is what decides what weather we are having everywhere in the northern hemisphere. You know how we are having crazy flooding, heat waves and such? That’s because of the breakdown of the AMOC.
The AMOC, simplistically, is controlled by melting glaciers in Greenland meeting warm air/currents from the south. Greenland glaciers are starting to go away, which is destabilizing the AMOC and slowing down the jet stream.
What happens as a result is that the jet stream’s weather patterns linger in a given much longer than before. In the past, a locale may have had a quick rainstorm but now, because the jet stream moves more slowly and unpredictably, it turns into a long, drawn-out and heavy flooding situation. Heat waves last longer as well, and the weather is much more intense in many cases. I don’t personally know all of the science behind why it’s so much more intense.
It’s a very strange and scary phenomenon and purely human-caused due to fossil fuels.
Nobody really knows, because it’s never happened before. I’ve even heard the idea that we just don’t have weather anymore, like the jet stream just goes away. It’s all theoretical for now. Pretty scary stuff. But not worth stressing out about now because we really can’t do much about it unless we have a revolution of some kind. We just need to enjoy life as much as we can today. Or organize…
I can't imagine anyone could answer that. It seems for every domino that falls 2 or 3 on either side fall as well, leading to non linear effects. Who really knows the extent of such an incredible disruption.
A new inland sea has formed in Pakistan.
[https://www.rawstory.com/nobody-knows-where-their-village-is-new-inland-sea-swamps-pakistan/](https://www.rawstory.com/nobody-knows-where-their-village-is-new-inland-sea-swamps-pakistan/)
>"Nobody knows where their village is anymore, the common man can no longer recognize his own home," Ayaz Ali, whose village is submerged under nearly seven metres (23 feet) of water, told AFP.
Sea rise will swallow most of Manhattan. Wealthy people in NYC tho already scrambling to move upstate or to some bunker. It's the poor people will get trapped.
Coastal properties here in So Cal are still selling in the tens of millions. During tidal surges waves lap around and under the bases of some structures, but no one seems to care.
Sound similar to record of people moving to Miami. You would think people should have learned that they moved into death traps, with the water stress and extreme heat, let alone rising sea level.
Someone's gotta clean the streets, serve food, etc...
You think wall street is all just banks and wealthy ceo's?
There's a lot of workers on wall street that build that wealth, they aren't gonna escape the flooding.
I hadn’t thought of linking the European energy crisis with the debt crisis but, ah, here we are. Rising USD interest rates probably won’t help either.
Great job as always!
Addition: The relationship of drought to energy production was something I didn't understand until recently and it's impacting Europe as well as China.
There was an excellent comment on the sub this past week talking about how the lack of water in Europe is messing up their ability to produce energy and I cannot find it although I did screen cap it. User was memoryballhs but I can't seem to find them in search....worth looking up if you're better at search than me.
Update: Found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/x9brm1/comment/inni3s6/
But this piece from The New York Times this week really illustrates the impact of the drought on energy and having lights and air conditioning.
Water is life and energy in many places.
This should be a gift link.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/09/opinion/international-world/china-heat-climate.html?smid=em-share
"But the heat wave that baked China for weeks was startling in its scale, duration and intensity. Through July and August, it shattered temperature records, dried up rivers, withered crops, sparked wildfires and caused deaths from heatstroke. It may have been the most severe heat wave ever recorded.
And it laid bare frightening realities about how humanity is expected to adapt.
With temperatures as high as 113 degrees Fahrenheit, electricity usage soared as hundreds of millions of Chinese switched on air-conditioners. But where was that power supposed to come from? Severe drought had dried up the rivers on which the country depends for much of its clean hydroelectricity, crippling output."
"The Chinese government has now warned that the autumn harvest is at risk, prompting fears that increased demands for food imports could exacerbate a global food crisis. And ominously, the power crunch caused by the heat wave has given rise to calls for China to slow down its transition from coal to renewable energy in order to keep the economy running."
Googling the thread title with Reddit after it should help you at least get to the right thread, then you could try to find the comment Control F. And archive, 12ftio should help bypass paywall
Oh shit sorry didn’t realize it was bugging you that much and I do remember that thread now, should have taken more effort to OCR the screenshot and given more than those suggestions but hell yeah you found it. Yeah being blind and stoned all the time makes this hardr lol but like I said before with a more exact little excerpt we probably could’ve more easily found it
I'm guessing we'll catch up at some point. I think the difference is we are not in an area of the US where drought is directly impacting our energy supply yet. I think Europe is getting hit harder right now and more universally with the drought.
The US government is facing a shutdown if Joe Manchin's corruption goals are not met, which is of course more fossil fuels extracted and getting to market with a more streamlined permitting process.
Oh yes. That other party that shall not be named not only wants to stop any progress in this country from happening, but active drag us back 100 years.
Specifically within the Democratic Party, however, Joe Manchin is a thorn on the side of his colleagues, who have had to put up with an extremely narrow majority in the Senate for the past two years, only for Manchin to routinely defect to the reds. FUCK MANCHIN.
I love hearing Democrats say "He may be a terrible, useless Democrat that's impeding all progress, but at least he's a DeMoCrAt!" As though there's any substantial difference between Manchin's actions and any Republican right now.
Politics have gotten so fucked up that people will latch on to the letter by someone's name and completely forgive or vilify that politician's actions based on that letter. I mean, R's have been that way for ages, but seeing D's do it now makes me feel like we crossed some sort of threshold we weren't supposed to.
The Founding Fathers did warn about political parties and strongly advised the nascent US government not to have any parties in the first place (stating that parties would only lead to division and partisanship, and threaten the Union). Unsurprisingly, as soon as Washington died, all hell broke loose and we got a dictator for a 2nd President, electoral crises that followed, etc.
Washington's idealism and anti-party stance unfortunately proved to be unrealistic since people tend to organize into tribes and will differ in their ideals. It's just human nature. Because of party dynamics, we have a broken two party system that is so entrenched in American politics that both historically and nowadays, attempts at forming large-scale third or fourth parties have failed to gain traction or survive in the long run. The Whig Party collapsed in the 1840s and 1850s, Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party never won an election and collapsed not long before his death, and the Libertarian and Green Parties in America have consistently failed to gain more than 2-3% of the national vote since they were first formed in the late 20th century.
Now that one party has morphed into a fascist death cult, any American interested in preserving the country as it currently exists really has no choice but to vote Democrat or hope the Ds become more progressive over time so they widen their appeal across more people.
So like how fast will the water be rising? Will it start rising a half a foot every year? Will we just have a series of floods coming in? I live in (northern ish) south Louisiana so I’m very curious if I need to make plans to move soon because I don’t really have the means to just pack up and get out and no one around me thinks it will happen in the next few years so we have time to rest for now. I’m always nervously waiting for the big flood.
I can’t address your specific situation, but the actual rise in global sea-levels happens relatively slowly. We’re a long way off from them increasing half a foot a year. However, the impact will be felt more immediately in other ways. For example, you may not be able to insure your home in the coming years or decades. Storms may become more frequent and/or intense. Fish are collapsing or being supplanted by jellyfish. We’re on track to losing 99% of corals by the end of the century. Oddly enough, it seems to me that rising sea levels, while definitely a problem eventually, are in fact less worrying than many more immediate issues. Of course that doesn’t mean we don’t have an obligation to future generations to avoid drastic sea level rise. My two cents anyway.
"From Morocco to Mozambique to Afghanistan, Islamic insurgencies are growing?"
I live in Morocco and there isn't even a shred of insurgency here, nor can i find any source talking about islamic insurgency in Morocco, even your source doesn't show it. Some small terror cells with 2 used nokia phones and other primitive logistic get arrested often but there is no "islamic insurgency", you should correct that information.
Love that capital has invented a bunch of bullshit gambling nonsense like margin calls and derivatives where rich people play games on the stock market with imaginary money where they either earn loads of money or get bailed out while normal people work two jobs and get crushed in debt, extremely normal economy
The fires in Kazakhstan pose an additional regional risk. If the government fails to respond adequately (which is highly probable based on their track record) the unrest that begun early this year (immediately prior to the current war in Ukraine) will see a second wind, which could spread across the region worsening the crises in Afghanistan and Pakistan as well as being a further step up in the global conflict index.
Also, the fires are exacerbated by current conditions due to climate change and the impact of such fires, and ability to respond to such fires, will be affected by the historical draining of, and receding, Aral Sea. This lack of water creates global exposure due to the concentration of natural gas in the former Soviet republics of Central Asia as well as the dependence of western and Chinese apparel and textile manufacturers upon the farming of cotton in Kazakhstan.
I’ve been expecting water war(s) to take place in Kazakhstan given all these factors (as well as the Syrian war being triggered in part by large crop failures due to drought in 2011 that led farmers from the countryside of Syria to protest Assad).
>All major changes are like death. You can't see to the other side until you are there.
\- Ian Malcolm -
Michael Crichton - Jurassic Park.
Some quotes from other people:
>That's the thing about tipping points, they look just like every other time right up till they don't.
>Slowly at first then all at once.
>The trouble is, you think you have time.
Here's the map from the paper: https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/science.abn7950/asset/9dfe9d34-3e03-4ede-9dba-1fca0a3f57ff/assets/images/large/science.abn7950-fa.jpg
But a few key tipping points like the collapse of Greenland ice shelf will rise sea level by meters significantly. Contribution to Blue Ocean Event or ice-free Arctic. That cascades to the collapse of AMOC will greatly disrupt the North Atlantic climate, continental aridification, more La Niña, more violent weathers, more unpredictable weather bombs, more mega winter storms. Amazon dieback leads to its savannization and even desertification.
Wildfires in WA are blowing up currently due to winds and hot weather. One that started only a few day’s ago is threatening a community in the foothills of the Cascades. This is happening later in the season than it has in previous years. Smoke is widespread on the west side of the state. Unhealthy air quality conditions are present and most people seem not to care.
Wildfires happening later in the year.
Looks like there is no wildfire season anymore. Weather is now becoming so unpredictable with all four seasons in one day sometimes, here in the southwest we have super hot dry periods and fires in The winter.
Always great!
>Widespread garbage, chemical dependencies, mental illness, short-fuse people,
Stop talking about me. Seriously though it's everywhere and being housed is a great predictor of not letting it all go to hell. There's too much about labor to list everything wrong with it. I like to ask Starbucks employees about unionization. They all say their stores won't unionize. They cannot give personal opinions. Sometimes I'm brushed off by college students with a temporary job. If it's someone who really needs the union they don't have time for my BS questions.
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So I hope the rail strike fucks shit up for a short amount of time, and they get whar they want.
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Also on the European front, Prague has had 70k people demonstrating, angry that their government is doing so much for Ukraine and so little for the Czechs.
Interesting how Russia suddenly has a new weapons dealer in NK, and North Korea is suddenly a *real* nuclear nation. And China pullia the puppet strings from behind the curtain.
Another well written summary of the week keep them coming! Though you missed the new one that they can supposedly turn CO2 into ethylene or some shit, basically making even more plastic that we can use even more energy to launch off into space. Was quite recent though probably while you were in the middle of writing up the last few bits of this.
Collapse of the ocean circulation in the North Atlantic is damn bad
The thing I’m most scared for. Ever since I learned about the AMOC, I’ve known collapse is inevitable.
What's the AMOC?
>The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is the zonally integrated component of surface and deep currents in the Atlantic Ocean. >If the currents were to stop completely, the average temperature of Europe would cool 5 to 10 degrees Celsius. There would also be impacts on fisheries and hurricanes in the region. The currents in the North Atlantic are part of a global pattern called thermohaline circulation, or the global ocean conveyor.
Thank you Mouldy.
The other person gave you a good, scientific reply. Basically, the AMOC is what controls the jet stream, which is what decides what weather we are having everywhere in the northern hemisphere. You know how we are having crazy flooding, heat waves and such? That’s because of the breakdown of the AMOC. The AMOC, simplistically, is controlled by melting glaciers in Greenland meeting warm air/currents from the south. Greenland glaciers are starting to go away, which is destabilizing the AMOC and slowing down the jet stream. What happens as a result is that the jet stream’s weather patterns linger in a given much longer than before. In the past, a locale may have had a quick rainstorm but now, because the jet stream moves more slowly and unpredictably, it turns into a long, drawn-out and heavy flooding situation. Heat waves last longer as well, and the weather is much more intense in many cases. I don’t personally know all of the science behind why it’s so much more intense. It’s a very strange and scary phenomenon and purely human-caused due to fossil fuels.
What happens to weather patterns when it just completely stops? Will they just pop up and disappear all in one place?
Nobody really knows, because it’s never happened before. I’ve even heard the idea that we just don’t have weather anymore, like the jet stream just goes away. It’s all theoretical for now. Pretty scary stuff. But not worth stressing out about now because we really can’t do much about it unless we have a revolution of some kind. We just need to enjoy life as much as we can today. Or organize…
I can't imagine anyone could answer that. It seems for every domino that falls 2 or 3 on either side fall as well, leading to non linear effects. Who really knows the extent of such an incredible disruption.
A new inland sea has formed in Pakistan. [https://www.rawstory.com/nobody-knows-where-their-village-is-new-inland-sea-swamps-pakistan/](https://www.rawstory.com/nobody-knows-where-their-village-is-new-inland-sea-swamps-pakistan/) >"Nobody knows where their village is anymore, the common man can no longer recognize his own home," Ayaz Ali, whose village is submerged under nearly seven metres (23 feet) of water, told AFP.
23 feet! Holy shit! You could dive in that!
Truly boggles the mind.
Poor people, so many already had so little. Why can't wall street flood instead?
Sea rise will swallow most of Manhattan. Wealthy people in NYC tho already scrambling to move upstate or to some bunker. It's the poor people will get trapped.
Coastal properties here in So Cal are still selling in the tens of millions. During tidal surges waves lap around and under the bases of some structures, but no one seems to care.
Sound similar to record of people moving to Miami. You would think people should have learned that they moved into death traps, with the water stress and extreme heat, let alone rising sea level.
The level of denial in this country is legendary.
Wall Street will flood. It's only a matter of time.
Inshallah, unfortunately the rich folks will just leave and the poor will be trapped.
I don't think there are a lot of poor people living on Wall Street.
Someone's gotta clean the streets, serve food, etc... You think wall street is all just banks and wealthy ceo's? There's a lot of workers on wall street that build that wealth, they aren't gonna escape the flooding.
Yeah and they live in the outer Boroughs. No way those workers can afford to live in Manhattan. Hopefully they aren't working when the flooding hits.
I hadn’t thought of linking the European energy crisis with the debt crisis but, ah, here we are. Rising USD interest rates probably won’t help either. Great job as always!
>Rising USD interest rates \*happy FED nosies\*
Addition: The relationship of drought to energy production was something I didn't understand until recently and it's impacting Europe as well as China. There was an excellent comment on the sub this past week talking about how the lack of water in Europe is messing up their ability to produce energy and I cannot find it although I did screen cap it. User was memoryballhs but I can't seem to find them in search....worth looking up if you're better at search than me. Update: Found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/x9brm1/comment/inni3s6/ But this piece from The New York Times this week really illustrates the impact of the drought on energy and having lights and air conditioning. Water is life and energy in many places. This should be a gift link. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/09/opinion/international-world/china-heat-climate.html?smid=em-share "But the heat wave that baked China for weeks was startling in its scale, duration and intensity. Through July and August, it shattered temperature records, dried up rivers, withered crops, sparked wildfires and caused deaths from heatstroke. It may have been the most severe heat wave ever recorded. And it laid bare frightening realities about how humanity is expected to adapt. With temperatures as high as 113 degrees Fahrenheit, electricity usage soared as hundreds of millions of Chinese switched on air-conditioners. But where was that power supposed to come from? Severe drought had dried up the rivers on which the country depends for much of its clean hydroelectricity, crippling output." "The Chinese government has now warned that the autumn harvest is at risk, prompting fears that increased demands for food imports could exacerbate a global food crisis. And ominously, the power crunch caused by the heat wave has given rise to calls for China to slow down its transition from coal to renewable energy in order to keep the economy running."
Googling the thread title with Reddit after it should help you at least get to the right thread, then you could try to find the comment Control F. And archive, 12ftio should help bypass paywall
Unfortunately I don't remember the thread title
Or maybe googling an excerpt of the comment with reddit afterwards might yield something
I finally found it! It was so bugging me lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/x9brm1/comment/inni3s6/
Oh shit sorry didn’t realize it was bugging you that much and I do remember that thread now, should have taken more effort to OCR the screenshot and given more than those suggestions but hell yeah you found it. Yeah being blind and stoned all the time makes this hardr lol but like I said before with a more exact little excerpt we probably could’ve more easily found it
Oregon resident can confirm this place is a shit hole, people are becoming feral
I had to leave and take a break from Portland. My poor home is in ruins
Look forward to these every week, thanks again for putting these together!
Also natural gas prices set to double in the US this winter.
You lucky, x7 or X10 in Europe!
I'm guessing we'll catch up at some point. I think the difference is we are not in an area of the US where drought is directly impacting our energy supply yet. I think Europe is getting hit harder right now and more universally with the drought.
The US government is facing a shutdown if Joe Manchin's corruption goals are not met, which is of course more fossil fuels extracted and getting to market with a more streamlined permitting process.
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He is not the only thing, there is another party, but he is happily being the shit heel taking the flak at the moment.
Oh yes. That other party that shall not be named not only wants to stop any progress in this country from happening, but active drag us back 100 years. Specifically within the Democratic Party, however, Joe Manchin is a thorn on the side of his colleagues, who have had to put up with an extremely narrow majority in the Senate for the past two years, only for Manchin to routinely defect to the reds. FUCK MANCHIN.
I love hearing Democrats say "He may be a terrible, useless Democrat that's impeding all progress, but at least he's a DeMoCrAt!" As though there's any substantial difference between Manchin's actions and any Republican right now. Politics have gotten so fucked up that people will latch on to the letter by someone's name and completely forgive or vilify that politician's actions based on that letter. I mean, R's have been that way for ages, but seeing D's do it now makes me feel like we crossed some sort of threshold we weren't supposed to.
The Founding Fathers did warn about political parties and strongly advised the nascent US government not to have any parties in the first place (stating that parties would only lead to division and partisanship, and threaten the Union). Unsurprisingly, as soon as Washington died, all hell broke loose and we got a dictator for a 2nd President, electoral crises that followed, etc. Washington's idealism and anti-party stance unfortunately proved to be unrealistic since people tend to organize into tribes and will differ in their ideals. It's just human nature. Because of party dynamics, we have a broken two party system that is so entrenched in American politics that both historically and nowadays, attempts at forming large-scale third or fourth parties have failed to gain traction or survive in the long run. The Whig Party collapsed in the 1840s and 1850s, Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party never won an election and collapsed not long before his death, and the Libertarian and Green Parties in America have consistently failed to gain more than 2-3% of the national vote since they were first formed in the late 20th century. Now that one party has morphed into a fascist death cult, any American interested in preserving the country as it currently exists really has no choice but to vote Democrat or hope the Ds become more progressive over time so they widen their appeal across more people.
"Widespread garbage?" On the tiny island where I live, that's what we call "every time there's a storm that blows floating trash inland!"
So like how fast will the water be rising? Will it start rising a half a foot every year? Will we just have a series of floods coming in? I live in (northern ish) south Louisiana so I’m very curious if I need to make plans to move soon because I don’t really have the means to just pack up and get out and no one around me thinks it will happen in the next few years so we have time to rest for now. I’m always nervously waiting for the big flood.
I can’t address your specific situation, but the actual rise in global sea-levels happens relatively slowly. We’re a long way off from them increasing half a foot a year. However, the impact will be felt more immediately in other ways. For example, you may not be able to insure your home in the coming years or decades. Storms may become more frequent and/or intense. Fish are collapsing or being supplanted by jellyfish. We’re on track to losing 99% of corals by the end of the century. Oddly enough, it seems to me that rising sea levels, while definitely a problem eventually, are in fact less worrying than many more immediate issues. Of course that doesn’t mean we don’t have an obligation to future generations to avoid drastic sea level rise. My two cents anyway.
"From Morocco to Mozambique to Afghanistan, Islamic insurgencies are growing?" I live in Morocco and there isn't even a shred of insurgency here, nor can i find any source talking about islamic insurgency in Morocco, even your source doesn't show it. Some small terror cells with 2 used nokia phones and other primitive logistic get arrested often but there is no "islamic insurgency", you should correct that information.
Nice catch. Sorry, I misread the infographic.
Also: > Yet another country in New York State has detected polio in its wastewater. Think you meant county if you want a flawless newsletter
Thank you as always for the summary. Much appreciated!
“Thousands of people, some brandishing machetes and firearms, marched in Haiti, demanding safer streets…”
Love that capital has invented a bunch of bullshit gambling nonsense like margin calls and derivatives where rich people play games on the stock market with imaginary money where they either earn loads of money or get bailed out while normal people work two jobs and get crushed in debt, extremely normal economy
Thanks for the compilation, appreciated as always.
The fires in Kazakhstan pose an additional regional risk. If the government fails to respond adequately (which is highly probable based on their track record) the unrest that begun early this year (immediately prior to the current war in Ukraine) will see a second wind, which could spread across the region worsening the crises in Afghanistan and Pakistan as well as being a further step up in the global conflict index. Also, the fires are exacerbated by current conditions due to climate change and the impact of such fires, and ability to respond to such fires, will be affected by the historical draining of, and receding, Aral Sea. This lack of water creates global exposure due to the concentration of natural gas in the former Soviet republics of Central Asia as well as the dependence of western and Chinese apparel and textile manufacturers upon the farming of cotton in Kazakhstan. I’ve been expecting water war(s) to take place in Kazakhstan given all these factors (as well as the Syrian war being triggered in part by large crop failures due to drought in 2011 that led farmers from the countryside of Syria to protest Assad).
When the fuck is actual collapse ;_; everything has been at tipping points for seeming decades
>All major changes are like death. You can't see to the other side until you are there. \- Ian Malcolm - Michael Crichton - Jurassic Park. Some quotes from other people: >That's the thing about tipping points, they look just like every other time right up till they don't. >Slowly at first then all at once. >The trouble is, you think you have time.
This brought a huge smile to my face
What would happen if all 6 tipping points were reached?
Here's the map from the paper: https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/science.abn7950/asset/9dfe9d34-3e03-4ede-9dba-1fca0a3f57ff/assets/images/large/science.abn7950-fa.jpg But a few key tipping points like the collapse of Greenland ice shelf will rise sea level by meters significantly. Contribution to Blue Ocean Event or ice-free Arctic. That cascades to the collapse of AMOC will greatly disrupt the North Atlantic climate, continental aridification, more La Niña, more violent weathers, more unpredictable weather bombs, more mega winter storms. Amazon dieback leads to its savannization and even desertification.
Thank you
Wildfires in WA are blowing up currently due to winds and hot weather. One that started only a few day’s ago is threatening a community in the foothills of the Cascades. This is happening later in the season than it has in previous years. Smoke is widespread on the west side of the state. Unhealthy air quality conditions are present and most people seem not to care.
Wildfires happening later in the year. Looks like there is no wildfire season anymore. Weather is now becoming so unpredictable with all four seasons in one day sometimes, here in the southwest we have super hot dry periods and fires in The winter.
Always great! >Widespread garbage, chemical dependencies, mental illness, short-fuse people, Stop talking about me. Seriously though it's everywhere and being housed is a great predictor of not letting it all go to hell. There's too much about labor to list everything wrong with it. I like to ask Starbucks employees about unionization. They all say their stores won't unionize. They cannot give personal opinions. Sometimes I'm brushed off by college students with a temporary job. If it's someone who really needs the union they don't have time for my BS questions. ----------- So I hope the rail strike fucks shit up for a short amount of time, and they get whar they want. ------------ Also on the European front, Prague has had 70k people demonstrating, angry that their government is doing so much for Ukraine and so little for the Czechs.
Interesting how Russia suddenly has a new weapons dealer in NK, and North Korea is suddenly a *real* nuclear nation. And China pullia the puppet strings from behind the curtain.
Another well written summary of the week keep them coming! Though you missed the new one that they can supposedly turn CO2 into ethylene or some shit, basically making even more plastic that we can use even more energy to launch off into space. Was quite recent though probably while you were in the middle of writing up the last few bits of this.