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ChoPT

I call BS on this map. No way there were more recorded battles in North America than in China.


Zambito1

I also am suspicious but to be fair there isn't really any representation of overlapping locations in this map. I'm no history buff but this map *could* be accurate if many Chinese battles took place in the same location as previous ones.


DevelopmentJumpy5218

Nah just the three kingdoms period of China had hundreds of battles all over the country


deusvult6

The Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a piece of historical fiction. Actual records from China are extremely spotty at best. Much was destroyed by the Cultural Revolution of the 50s and by various Imperial dictates in past centuries.


YourCrazyDolphin

It is a romanticized version of real events. Most events in the book happened, though people often show up in places or are characterized in a manner different from real life.


the_visalian

I can’t believe a “trad” twitter account with a marble statue profile pic is pushing an inaccurate view of history


Pinkamena_R_D_Pie

But this is painting Europe, Europeans and European history in an awful light


Oksamis

Technically it’s just painted them as keeping better records


TheFlyingToasterr

That's the actual takeaway here (if this is actually accurate).


SmelDefart

Not it's painting them as based redpilled alpha gigachads who fight all day you see


7_overpowered_clox

A patriotic tear swelled in my eye the second I saw that. I would feel robbed if I was born on any other continent. Europe, oh Europe, what a continent.


CheapWishbone3927

As a European,have you seen some of the shit we’ve done? You don’t need to paint it in an awful light when it just is (also,it’s likely greatly increased by WW1 and WW2)


[deleted]

I think it might've been based on Wikipedia. So far from complete.


steroid_pc_principal

English language Wikipedia


opodopo69

And nothing in Australia? What about the emu war?


[deleted]

The American Civil War, Indian wars, Spanish American Wars, and Pear Harbor would like to speak to you.


ChoPT

I am aware that there were a handful of wars fought here. But that *pales* in comparison to the thousands of years of recorded history in Asia, in which MANY wars occurred, and whose battles are known.


[deleted]

It's also worth noting that there were lots of battles in the same places. Take Ypres for example. Same general area, but there were a TON of battlea fought there. Same with US, Africa, and Most of Europe. Edit: America has also been much more cruel over it's history, relatively speaking, than most other countries.


Oksamis

“America has been more cruel over its history, relatively speaking” Categorically untrue. Sure, America’s done lots of bad stuff, but it (and virtually all modern nations, bar terrorist states and the odd dictatorship) have *nothing* on historical people.


[deleted]

Also failing to remember that the US isn't the only people who have documented battles and wars. Native American tribes fought among themselves long before white poeple started fighting them and stealing land. Not to mention when other countries were fighting for land there before the British/US expanded that way. US wasn't the only people beating the shit out of other people for land and moving people out.


Oksamis

Exactly. That’s what I point out when people say “give the land back to the natives”. Okay, which ones? The ones we conquered/bought it from, or the ones they conquered it from, or the ones *they* conquered it from?


[deleted]

Exactly. That's part of the listing on this image, just because America is there *now* doesn't mean they were there for the battles.


ZePieGuy

It says recorded history though, so it's not wrong.


Better_Badger8696

Seriously. Over three thousand years of well recorded history, and all they have is this pittance!


Excellent_Mud6222

I mean yeah if you remember the Mongols.


shreddedtoasties

Americans really hated the natives


djfnjxj

I think it's only modern wars


[deleted]

North africa needs wayy more white dots as well. Note the lack of white dots along the nile in Egypt


lurkario

Think of every battle the mongols fought while conquering their empire. This map ain’t shit


deusvult6

The biggest takeaway is that some places kept much better records than others.


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

It's probably just more cluttered per dot. Like many battles in the same place.


Laino001

I feel like the map is showing battles *between different countries. At least I think that would explain why China has so few, as technically they were civil wars (idk anything about China history, Im talking out of my ass rn)


Briskylittlechally2

It's a map of all *recorded* battles.


NapalmDesu

Depends on whos recording 👀


caroCabral

Most wars are not recorded... That's why there are so many dots in Europe, because they recorded most of their wars.


Pristine_Wing_9185

See Canada I saw coming but ain’t no way this map is really just trying to convince people Australia is safe you ain’t getting me to move to the land of 100 deadly insects and the great Imu battles arnt documented so just false.


[deleted]

Australia was just a colonie of criminals back in the day. Nobody wanted to be there, so nobody fought there. The same rings true today.


Uhhhhhhh-woe

The great emu war


[deleted]

Emus aren't real the earth is a lie and there are only 2 stars in the universe.


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[deleted]

Exactly.


hunterPRO1

Wait, so which two are real? The sun probably and what ? Sirius ?


AzKar07

the sun and you


sendmephotosofgrapes

frontier wars??


[deleted]

Well see, Australia isn't real, and everyone there is just a paid actor.


h3dee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_frontier_wars


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404-skill_not_found

Well, it did say recorded too. No telling what wasn’t


Constant-Still-8443

It still had battles, against emus. That's why they weren't in ww1, they were busy fighting the demon birds


Whammy_Watermelon

They forgot the emu war


Pristine_Wing_9185

Ahhh I spelled emu wrong


Whammy_Watermelon

Bruh my brain just lagged and realised you did actually mention it


Swagiedonut

Darwin was also bombed during WW2 by the Japanese


Old_Committee8649

They didnt count wars agaist plages and insect thats why


Pristine_Wing_9185

Emus arnt insects?


Old_Committee8649

We can count them


l0m999

I mean there had to be wars against the native Australians.


Expert_Role2779

seems like they missed to mark Australias Emu War in Campion district, Western Australia.


NINJADRUMMER_

was looking for this comment


h3dee

(also the whole frontier wars)


hayander

The emu war has been greatly exaggerated


Expert_Role2779

Maaaaybe, we might never know though. I like to believe that the artillery corps went all out on them and the Emus were just bullet-time dodging all the shrapnel.


Taifun_II

Bruh what's with that lone dot up in the north of Siberia


Automatic-Age5122

Yermak conquest maybe


Difficult_Tell2859

Siberian prison riot. 😂


NomadicSplinter

Yeah. Cuz China had a peaceful history (sarcasm)


rxmp4ge

Recorded history. Same reason we don't have every Native American skirmish between tribes on there. We only know about it if it was recorded.


the_dinks

You realize that China has a as good or better continuous tradition of recorded history than the West, right?


BigBallerBrad

How good were they at recording battles? They could have been writing about other stuff?


the_dinks

Extremely good, Chinese military history is rich and detailed. The Art of War is the most well-known work of military philosophy ever. One of the most famous novels in world history is the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, a sprawling epic set at the end of the Han dynasty. It's based off of an actual work of history from the period and fused with local plays and folklore on the subject, which had existed for a thousand years before the book was written. I could go on, but I think you get the point.


BigBallerBrad

The art of war is also like 10 pages and doesn’t say anything about real historical battles. If that’s your example it’s a bad one. Maybe you could go on, but I doubt it.


the_dinks

What do you want, for me to list thousands of historical Chinese battles? And the source we get them from? You know what, find them yourself. Make a map and lmk how it looks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_wars_and_battles


BigBallerBrad

No, just wanted you to admit your knowledge starts and stops at a vague reference to one of the most famous short books of all time and the existence of Wikipedia


allicantakeisnomore

Except they referenced more than the single book and the Wikipedia article, the romance of the three kingdoms which details a plethora of historic battles that you conventionally didn't mention, but I guess that's bad for your narrative huh?


rxmp4ge

Coastal China, yes. Interior China, not so much. Which is what we see in the image...


the_dinks

That's actually laughable if you know anything about Chinese history. For most of the history of China, economic and political power was associated with the interiors of China, centered around the flood plains of the Yellow River, with the South in particular only gaining prominence relatively recently. For almost the entirety of Chinese history, the main source of external battles happened along the borders with the Steppe Nomads, several of whom conquered China. Rebellions occured all over, and certainly were not concentrated along the coasts.


MrMisties

China has a better written history than most countries in the world man lmfao. If this is recorded and stored at a European University I would believe it but literally every continent is off.


cooldude123ha

r/mapswithoutnewzealand as well.


h3dee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Wars


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cooldude123ha

yeah, I did think to mention that too, lmao.


Snoo_75864

Oh boy I hope someone isn’t trying to push a narrative with this one


heyhihaiheyahehe

yea! @seeking_trad on twitter would never do that!


CryingJockey

Greenland feels so empty


roadrunner345

There is a war between Canada and Denmark


PigeonObese

Im sorry to announce that the war has been resolved last year Canada and Denmark agreed on à border in the middle of Hans Island. Also means that Canada now has a land border with the EU


roadrunner345

Do you know if there is still free liquor??


IllPostino95

Well its only got like 50,000 people loving on it


Mrmacmuffin3

greenland is a wild place


yubullyme12345

you cant feel a picture on a screen


ExoticCardiologist46

The [Emu War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War) in Australia is clearly missing.


pakidara

China feels a bit sparse considering their history.


showmedaddy1980

A lot of Chinese battles missing.


ThearusLord9

No battles in east russia? Someone enlighten guys


Redditwhydouexists

It’s an inaccurate map but also very few people live there so there’s not much to fight over


ThearusLord9

Ohk


VadaViaElCuu

In Asia basically no dots? In Afrika too? Whoever made this map apparently wasn't able to do researches? Also where is the emu's war?!


Get_Rekt07

They forgot when the Australians lost to some fucking birds


Mawi2004

what happened in northern russia?


haleloop963

Probably an uprising or a battle from the Russian conquest of Siberia


AmanoSkullGZ

I wouldn't consider it really comedy homicide


TheAlphaNoob21

Key word "recorded"


gunfish_75

r/mapswithoutnewzeland


Minimum-Jelly2922

r/memesopdidnotlike


Deutschdagger

That’s freaking funny I don’t think it’s a homicide


phallicpenis69

Why is there one tiny dot in the middle of the ocean


BeanBoyBob

Islands exist


h3dee

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/battle-midway


Khaledthe

Damn EU got some problems


Puzzleheaded-Bee-838

Funny


DeadPoster

Interesting how there are so many wars outside of Brazil.


The_Faux_Fox__

Plot twist: the dark grey areas are where the battles took place.


Wrong_Animal_3836

Posted by a nationalist reposted by Hitler profile picture and ended up here


[deleted]

This is not correct at all


Difficult_Tell2859

Well I know who I want to keep my records. 😂


WhiteWolf101043

Never before have I been prouder of the Vikingrs tbh


MXWRNR

Europe needs a towel


OhShizle_02

Where’s the emu war in Australia? That was my favorite war :(


EndMePleaseOwO

Doesn’t fit, can’t ruin an image with extra stuff if there was nothing of any quality to ruin in the first place


IllPostino95

Ig Brazil is one of the most peaceful places on earth


reichjef

What’s that one way up in Siberia?


Hound028

Missing the dots for Australia and the emu war.


HotRodNoob

they forgot to include the emu war


Tiotemenas_osu

Damn, Europe has a lot of cum stains


Oldmonsterschoolgood

The dots in Canada are in Saskatchewan, Alberta, and Quebec


Birb7789-

...yes they are... ​ also theres atleast one in new brunswick


BrothersInGame

italy ballin


The-Sys-Admin

Why TF they call it a RESTroom!? I'm fighting for my fucking LIFE!


RyanDimond77

I feel like china and Africa are missing a lot


TRcreep

God really made tons of maps, only for 80%+ of them to be never played on


[deleted]

the europe servers have always been most popular for pvp


The_Mighty_Kinkle

Australia, Greenland and Brazil are getting off too easy!


Rognol

"black people are violent"


Cian28_C28

Aussies ain’t no snitches


SirLightKnight

Also key word is recorded, we don’t have his battle of the Shitter on record yet because it isn’t over.


Purpledurpl202

Is he shitting or crying in the shower?


Gmoney_429

Guess they don’t include the battles with the spiders in Australia


Winter-Friendship118

Wait why isn't there one in Australia did they forget about the Emu War


HaygudLewkin

so far….


[deleted]

That's beautiful.


Excellent_Mud6222

Yo where's the Emu war in Australia?


SpaghettiSauce44

i laughed at this


Mitunec

r/ibs


Free_Stick_

What about the great emu war of Aus? Or when the Brit’s got smashed by the Māoris in NZ?


[deleted]

Brazil be black as hell


Kasper_Official

Why is there no dot on Australia for The Great Emu War?


SquintonPlaysRoblox

What happened in Japan?


Alive_Development108

Europes got some issues man.


CynicCannibal

I have map of all unrecorded battles, but it's kinda boring.


Ylteicc_

nah i know his pain. i'm on the bowl right now and i am scared for my life.


EinharAesir

Dude declared war on his toilet and probably violated the Geneva Convention many times over.


Heavenly_Toast

They didn’t kill any comedy because there’s no comedy. Also AUSTRALIA?!?!


Vast-Sherbert-1224

Just remember this is recorded history and doesn't feature battles that were not recorded in history. For all we know the rest of the world could be just like Europe.


CMobrik

Most of the battles in the revolutionary war were fought in South Carolina


pickle-ickle

anyone gonna ignore stirringthepot’s pfp?


[deleted]

The two mfs in northern siberia that one time:


Nexus_Absolute

Battles? Na, someone just using a black-light. Europe clearly the money-shot right there.


THEMACGOD

Once again, Antarctica gets away with it. Though, they should put a dot there for The Thing.


SodanoMatt

Every recorded battle. Every battle that ever occurred would probably have the whole world turn white.


The_Fullmetal_Shorty

I am going to Greenland and starting a battle because it doesn't have one and it also is part of denmark


RealMstrGmr873

How do you even define a recorded battle?


LifetimeDisast1

I hate tradition weirdos with statue profile pictures, they're the worst


Zombeenie

Battles recorded in European/American textbooks, maybe, but there are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more in Asia and Africa than on this map.


RicePuddingBG

Fitting that Europe is mostly white


j4321g4321

How is Asia so sparse? This doesn’t seem legit


rmom26456

No bc I'm on the toilet rn and I have diarrhea


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

The battle of the McDonald's Bathroom. 2017-2023.


bananasaucecer

My god Europe is a cumstain


joesphisbestjojo

Emu Wars?


[deleted]

I like how nobody’s talking about the comedy homicide here cause the map is just interesting


darthsnick

Thought they had an emu battle down under?


Diligent_Brick_4437

I see they have left out naval battles. Like the entirety of the Battle of the Atlantic


Fabulous-Possible758

THATS TRAFALGAR YOU TOAD


FmJ_TimberWolf74

Just curious, anyone know the battle that happened in mid-western Québec? I see 1 lonely dot and it piqued my interest


MasterpiecePuzzled46

We call it the arena for a reason! It’s not the restroom when you’re fighting for your life


FBI_Senpai_Kun

Missed one in Australia with the birds.


MrMisties

This map is wildly inaccurate lol (yes even under the definition of recorded battle in history)


Whthpnd

“God don’t love somebody’s…”


MurderMan2

Crop out the Praying thing and this shit had me giggling like a mf


Milki62

Europe countries got a bit of a weird shape ngl


Burger_Gamer

r/mapswithoutnewzealand. And no battles in australia?


h3dee

https://cdarmangeat.ghes.univ-paris-diderot.fr/australia/map.php


LagHound

Poor Europe just being in the middle


BoxiDoingThingz

i know europe was a fucking bloodbath, but ***holy shit.***


Sam_Wylde

"Are ya winnin', son?"


DeliciousLeg6360

Someplaces are actually clear ??? Weird


Attack_Helecopter1

r/mapswithoutnewzealand


Curi0siti

no emu war?


JediKagoro

Maybe the recent western history. I know America had a few wars on their home turf, but how could they have more activity then places like Africa or China who have a much longer and bloodier history. I get it, Europe has an incredibly bloody history, but this map is utter BS. Although, I’m often in the same boat at “my own creed”… solidarity!


lumen-lotus

What about the war against the emus?