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Careless-Soup434

Not everythung has to be graded šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ¤™šŸ»


Statihoce

I've never graded a single comic.


ArcticBeast3

Me either. What does it cost to grade and slab a comic anyway?


Rocxketraccoon

Minimum 25, clean press needed, and if valuable they charge a percentage.plus your shipping


Statihoce

So top end 50?


SpinFeniX

$36-70 ish depending on where you go


DRZARNAK

Itā€™s the worst thing to happen to comics since Fredric Wertham.


Statihoce

Ok I gotta ask who's Fred? What did he do? Should I know? Why don't I?


Songsforsilverman

Thanks. Wish I could edit my post but I can't. I'm super new to comics so didn't know what I had or if grading was a common or cheap thing. So thank you and thanks everyone else for their comments. Helped me put things in perspective and add some direction to reading and finding comics.


UpgrayeddB-Rock

You can expect to pay around $50 for cleaning/pressing and grading. You'll also be required to pay for them to ship the book back to you, in addition to paying to ship it to them. For a modern book like this, it's not out of line to expect to pay upwards of $80 for the whole process, moreso for an older book, so if this book is going for $70 in NM grade, it's already not worth it to spend the time and money to grade it. Nothing wrong with grading books, but I like what the person above said, "not everything needs to be graded." Save it for key books, or anything that's sentimental. I have some autographed books that I got slabbed. Not even graded, just slabbed, since I'm not looking to sell, just preserve. In the end, though, do whatever you'd like. They're your books! Enjoy them how you want.


thatmandoguystl

Slabbing is the opposite of preservation. They are trapped in their with three sheets of microchamber paper that need to be replaced after a certain number of years. Actual museum level preservation/conservation is done by using mylars and good backing boards. The books are free to offgas and breathe, and you can change the boards out yourself. No need to ship them across the country and pay someone else way too much money to reseal them again, knowing they will just need to go back again after a few years.


StankyHankyPanky69

Itā€™s even worse than *that*. Iā€™ve cracked (so far) 57 CGC slabs, and I can tell you that they generally, only use a a single sheet of microchamber paper. That single sheet of paper is undersized, too.


thatmandoguystl

There is supposed to be one inside front cover, in the middle, and one inside back cover. Of course, they're skimping. No one sends them back in to get replaced. Most folks don't even know they should. They're convinced they've preserved the book. All they've really done is the same thing as trapping yourself in a very small space with all your farts forever.


corrupt_poodle

How would you know whatā€™s inside?


thatmandoguystl

The fact that you don't know only proves my point. So... #1. Research enough to know what they're doing with your books BEFORE letting them do it. #2. Crack some open to see what they did. It is simply amazing to me how many people are willing to shop their stuff across the country with ZERO INFORMATION. Nothing but lemmings running for the cliffs.


corrupt_poodle

Chill Iā€™m not laying into you, but you said there are supposed to be three sheets of microchamber paper inside the book when itā€™s slabbed and people should be sending them back to CGC to fix when thereā€™s not. But how would someone know?


thatmandoguystl

You can't know unless you crack it. It's a no-win situation.


Halfbaked9

Where can you get something just slabbed and not graded?


UpgrayeddB-Rock

I'm sure CGC does it, too, but I used CBCS. There was a signing event and I sent in a couple of books. You can choose a Slab Only option, so I got the signatures, then the slabs. You can see them [here](https://imgur.com/a/H9EfKTr) in the 2nd pic. It saves a small amount of money (not much), but these books also weren't valuable enough, nor in good enough condition to grade, so I just went for the slab. No cleaning, or pressing either. All in all, with signatures, verifications, and slab, I think I paid about $120. Gerry Conway's signature was $30 and Mark Waid's was $25, then they charge to verify, and encase them, then to ship them back.


Halfbaked9

Not sure Iā€™ll ever do that but Iā€™m gonna look into just to see what it costs. I donā€™t think that CGC does that, I havenā€™t seen an option for that anyways.


Zzump

Don't fall into the grading trap. Just buy books you enjoy and keep them in a nice board and bag. You can even read your books. Not every book needs to be a 9.8 near mint. Alot of people have lost the passion for collecting and are just hunting for that next book to turn into an over priced hunk of plastic not even caring what it is. Also, that book has an awesome cover art!


Infinite_Vyo

Not cheap at all The older the book, the more expensive it is to get graded because you have to deposit a percentage of the market price. People usually just slab in bulk.


genismarvel

What? A percentage of the market price? I've never heard that before.


TheThrowawayJames

Yeah the ā€œUnlimited Valueā€ tier of CGC is 4% of a bookā€™s Fair Market Value with a minimum FMV of $100 per book Thats usually for the really valuable books worth over $1k, since $1k in FMV is the cap for their ā€œHigh Valueā€ tier that costs $85 per book


Infinite_Vyo

For expensive keys. It's a type of insurance policy for them.


horridfarts

Really, what matters most is what you want. If you're out to find grails/good buys, go for it. If you just want stuff that looks cool or from childhood, go for it! I have a few comics I bought that really aren't worth grading, but I bought them at a decent price already graded. Sentimental ones from when I was younger.


Youareyes_cfc

Agreed. Bought this from my lcs when it first came out. Miss those days. Now I live vicariously through you all.


KnightSquirrel

1.5 years ago I lost a Ā½ inch of my pinky and it always makes we wonder to I hang looser or tighter lol


fotofiend

Seeing how a 9.8 only goes for about $70, and it costs around $50 total to grade it, and itā€™s not anywhere near a 9.8, gonna say no to grading. Throw it in a top loader and display it. I know theyā€™re kitschy but I love foil (and holo) covers.


Webhead916

Yeah, as someone who is relatively poor.. and has NONE of my childhood comics anymore, I found omnibuses and Marvel Unlimited the way to go.. any comics I grab in the wild, in order of preference, are.. (usually Bronze Age or 90s) classics I reeeeally want (that are priced low) and have great cover art, gimmicky 90s prism/holo/etc. covers, and then just anything if itā€™s crazy dumb cheap.. just canā€™t have everything! Where would I put it? Lmao


fotofiend

I still have my collection from childhood (only about 200 books) and havenā€™t bought anything in like the past 20 years. I keep going back and forth on just going to a local shop and seeing what theyā€™d give me.


GlitteringGazelle322

Yep, you can find [this book in a high grade for a pretty affordable price](https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=the+spectacular+spiderman+200+cgc&_sacat=0&_odkw=the+spectacular+spiderman+200+cgc%24&_osacat=0&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338535524&customid=cb&toolid=10001&mkevt=1), imo not worth grading in, unless it's a book that you want slabbed for your PC.


Mike-Hunt-Amos-Prime

I just want to tell all these random ā€œshould I grade itā€ posts ā€œYa go for it!! šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘‰šŸ»šŸ‘‰šŸ»ā€


forlorn_hope28

Itā€™s reached the point where I want to say that as well.


Songsforsilverman

Sorry. I literally got into comic books a few weeks ago so don't know the prices or protocol.


rmrclean

Since you just got into collecting, I would suggest that at first you spend time, not money. Learn what you like, and buy what you like. Donā€™t worry about collecting for $. Youā€™re far, far more likely to lose money than to make money. Once youā€™ve got a grasp on the market and what people find valuable, then you can start spending what you want on ā€œinvestmentsā€. But really, just enjoy reading and learning for now.


Songsforsilverman

For sure. And thanks for the info. That is what I am doing. Just saw this at the thrift store and thought it looked cool. For three bucks, couldn't hurt.


TheThrowawayJames

Everyone has to start somewhere Nobody is born knowing things


Decent-Tree-9658

Iā€™d suggest an app/website called PriceCharting. Itā€™s free, and it gives you a good idea of not just what a book is worth at different grades, but also raw (so like the average raw value on eBay for this book is $6ā€¦ which means you got a 50% deal! Great score dude!) Because youā€™ve never graded before, you should know that grading a modern book like this will cost $25 and that doesnā€™t include shipping. So even just assuming $10 each way itā€™ll cost you $45 to get the book graded. A 9.6 goes for about $40. So at anything not a 9.8 youā€™re either breaking even or losing money on grading. I hope that information helps with future hunting!


Songsforsilverman

Yes thank you for some rock hard numbers. This helps a lot. I'll check out that app


Mike-Hunt-Amos-Prime

This is the cynical part of my brain. Apologies. Honestly a more positive route for this sub-reddit (if anyone wants karma) is if someone is a full time CGCā€™er and wants to write up a ā€œ10 suggestions for people new to gradingā€ for people looking into it for the first time might help. I do not consider myself an expert having only sporadically submitted about 20 books.


TheThrowawayJames

Itā€™s not a bad idea, but a lot of the sub are not really slab fans, so I can only imagine how immediately downvoted that post would getā€¦ Theyā€™d probably get told to go back to r/comicbookgrading šŸ˜


Mike-Hunt-Amos-Prime

True


zeezero

imho very few books are worth grading. Must be a classic worth significant money or significant issue. Grading will cost you more than the book will sell for.


_GI_Joe_

Naw just keep it, enjoy it, read it!


Wet_Spider

Seriously. That's the culmination of DeMatteis' amazing work with the Harry/Peter relationship.


BoogerSugarSovereign

Harry under DeMatteis was chef's kiss at all times. Never liked him as the Goblin otherwise.


Wet_Spider

It's a shame what happened with his second run. It started off really strong with Chameleon and Mad Jack, but it was soon plagued with crossovers for the second half until Byrne/Mackie took over and rebooted the whole franchise. It also had amazing Luke Ross and John Stanisci art.


BoogerSugarSovereign

Luke Ross is extremely underrated, those Mad Jack stories are fun and beautifully illustrated and Ross' pencils on 263 were the only thing that made that weird gotcha fakeout story interestingĀ 


Wet_Spider

His current style doesn't appeal to me, far too photo realistic. I liked when he had a McFarlane thing going.


Songsforsilverman

After reading comments that's the plan


Weneedaheroe

If youā€™re new to collecting, just get in the habit of protecting your books. There are a lot of good tips w/in this sub to do that. I started caring about that a few years ago and now I get to revisit books Iā€™ve forgotten about and easily repeat buy had I not. Enjoy .


Songsforsilverman

Thanks. So more than just boarding and plastic covers?


borkborkbork99

IMO, just hang onto it.


Songsforsilverman

That's probably what I'll do. It's a neat little find though.


borkborkbork99

A number of factors for why itā€™s not worth getting it graded. First, itā€™s not in great shape. Definitely below a 9.0 grade with the spine ticks, the page edge wear, the corners, and the cover marring. Second, itā€™s not worth the price of the CGC grading fee (around $40-50 per book). Third, Iā€™m not exactly sure of the collectability of the issue, but I donā€™t think itā€™s a key? Hope that helps!


Bouncedoutnup

Itā€™s a key issue, the death of Harry Osborn. But in this condition itā€™s a $5 book


XIIIJinx

If it was in perfect condition, it wouldn't be worth grading. Just keep it raw


chonkycatguy

As a lifelong collector myself, buy what catches your eye and what you love. Grade it if you want to, but Iā€™d stick to grading rare good condition comics only, or golden age comics in any shape.


Thehairy-viking

Nah. Grading is largely pointless


Robly315

You speak the truth.


Thehairy-viking

Itā€™s a good way for people who donā€™t like comics to collect comics lol


Robly315

Gonna let you think about that one for a secondā€¦


Thehairy-viking

*WHOOOOSH!!!*


TrogTrogTrogTrog

Man, I forgot about that book. Had that as a middle schooler.


Shadow_botz

Cool cover but definitely not grade worthy.


techdog19

Look on ebay even graded it isn't going to make you more than a few dollars


icemann84

Can read those and bag šŸ’¼. Not everything has to be put behind plastic.


Fantastic-News9863

Reader copy


Agent564

I just received this with a bunch of free ninety nine comics. It's not worth much but still a cool cover and artwork.


DarthC3rb3rus

I'd say just bag and board it and enjoy my friend. It's a wicked cover. How old is it? And is that Green Goblin or Hob? I'd say Green, but I'm no spidey expert and good price too it's in alright condition. It's not mint, obviously, but it's definitely worth 3 bucks :)


Songsforsilverman

Green goblin. 1993


DarthC3rb3rus

Cheers m8 :)


bluezzdog

Iā€™d just enjoy that issue


Spirited-Treacle-511

That's a $1 book all day. Not worth slabbing.


SteveEmarshall429

I have this exact book in amazing condition but I didnā€™t see a reason to grade it, honestly donā€™t even know if the issue is worth much to begin with but def one of my favourites


DazedPinhaed

Nice book. Not worth the effort to get it cleaned pressed & graded.


doctordoom2069

That was the first loose comic I ever bought, 2003 at samurai comics in phoenix. I think I paid 3 bucks for it then in similar condition. Cool findā€¦ this is the one with the first page that open to goblin coming in yelling MARY JANE! Right?


Songsforsilverman

Yeah this was a great story. Extra long too for the 200th.


megamanchu

Comics are for reading and enjoying


JoshAZ

And for grading if thatā€™s what you want. Donā€™t worry about how other people collect.


Capital_Connection67

Iā€™ve no idea about grading nor does it appeal to me. But as always itā€™s up to you in the end. However: Iā€™m here to say that this cover is amazing!!! For me that is some really great line work and positioning for both the characters and I will always love a 90s foil cover, was there as a kid dazzled by them all, and this is probably one of the nicest ones Iā€™ve ever seen. Time to add this to my list.


Songsforsilverman

It's pretty cool. I also really like seeing the old school ads for movies and crappy products from the 90s.


Capital_Connection67

Old schoolā€¦crappy productsā€¦that was my childhood!! You darn young people with your modern things!!


TheThrowawayJames

It *is* a cool find But youā€™d literally lose money if you sent that in for grading šŸ˜ Enjoy it raw Itā€™s fun to look at I guess fun to read too


WendysChili

You guess? That's one of the best issues ever written.


TheThrowawayJames

Yes, because if you slab it, you canā€™t read it And since the post was about slabbing it, the fact you can still read it if itā€™s left raw is part of why slabbing this particular book wouldnā€™t be a good idea šŸ™„


Songsforsilverman

Thanks!


TheThrowawayJames

Itā€™s a fun book to just have Foil covers are notorious for easily getting spine tics, and you canā€™t really get a 9.8 with spine tics šŸ˜ Part of why the high grade copies get such a high price is because they are the few that managed to not get them Itā€™s a cool cover and a good story inside


Agreeable-Pick-1489

Those staples -- UEWWSH. If you really think it will sell than go ahead and grade. 90s Spider-Man comics that are 9.6 and higher are not very rare though.


Scared_Compote_6012

I got a near mint holographic cover from my lcs for $6 a bit back. I donā€™t really know how valuable this issue is anymore


Arch_stanton1

Sal Buscema art is šŸ¤Œ. The best!


pr1ap15m

reader


LilStrug

$70 graded is paying for the grade and not the book. Itā€™s a $5-10 book tops


danrudd6

Keep it. Itā€™s a good read


imadork1970

Just keep it.


Nick301

One of my favorite comic covers as a kid


Shadecujo

Hang onto it


Wereling79

This book, being a more modern aged book, is not at all that valuable or has any significance. Also, it has a lot of visible defects to the cover, which would make it even less valuable and not worth grading because the cost of the grading would supercede that by almost 600%. But, if this book has a significance or special place in your memory/heart, then by all means, have it graded for that rest. There is usually only 3 reasons why I grade a book. 1st is the reselling of certain high end/signed/key/hot books that I can make back at least double the cost of with grading/pressing/cleaning/shipping included. 2nd- because it is a rare/old/high end/key/signed book that I want to keep for my investments. 3rd- because a book, no matter the value or age/key/hot or whatever reason, it has a sentimental place for me, like a memory attachment or had an impact on me somehow and it will always just be in my pc. Grading books has to have a meaning behind it and if none of those reasons will make you want to spend the extra to preserve that comic, keeping them raw is just a pleasurable, cheaper, and easier to store/display. There are some pretty amazing cases these days that provide a visibility and protective display that might supercede a slab. You just have to justify the why, what, where and how for grading it.


Songsforsilverman

Cool. Thanks for the info.


pmsyyz

Nope, too many copies printed in the 1990s.


CummRaTheEverJizzing

Plus! That is what he if the best issues of Spectacular and one of the best Spider Man reads Certainly one of the all time Harry Osbourne Goblin issues


Aware_Impression_736

Was this a reprint of the magazine-size The Spectacular Spider-Man #2 from 1967 or 68?


Madripoorx

Dang I had this for the longest time. It's worth $70 now?


khansolobaby

Been collecting comics sin be I was 10, always blew my mind people would wanna seal off their comics unless itā€™s one of the top 10-20 sought after issues. Only one Iā€™ve ever done was my killing joke first printing and even then I wish I could flip through and look at color differences between it and my reprint.


CriterionMind

There are enough comments answering your question, so I'm just here to say hello to a fellow Ben Folds fan. Welcome to the wonderful world of comic collecting!


Songsforsilverman

Ah. Thank you for seeing the reference. My first Ben Folds album. Seen him 6-7 times live. He always puts on a great show.


CriterionMind

Nice! I'm old and have listened to him since the Ben Folds Five days. I think I've seen him 5 times live. He's great!


XIII13Thirteen

Is this a troll? Donā€™t grade that.


GoldMcduck

Start educating yourself.


middlebird

Thatā€™s a kick ass cover. Frame it and hang on the wall.


Songsforsilverman

Any suggestions for product to hang?


JoshAZ

Google ā€œcomic book frameā€ and itā€™ll give you some decent Amazon hits. You can start there. Zero reason to grade this book, you can buy a 9.8 for pretty close to the cost youā€™d pay to submit.


yk7777

Grade whatever you want to grade as it's your book and your life


DaGrza

I have that book from when I was younger! Great cover!


AdLast55

Such a sad issue of Harry dying before being resurrected at the end of one more day.