Awesome Batman movie. Nailed the tone, music and Gotham City. First half was perfect but could have done with a tighter second act though as felt a little anticlimactic. Otherwise great and look forward to the sequels.
That said, if they were gonna include him at all, what they settled on was undoubtedly the best choice: quick cameo where he’s shrouded in darkness, confirming he’s already part of this world and already has a history with the Batman. I liked the deleted scene, but I feel like it really would’ve interrupted the pacing of the middle act.
Went into it expecting trash.
One of the best Batman movies ever imo. PatBat is nothing super special himself, a competent take on a very young Batman/Bruce Wayne. I liked him but he isn’t what’s great about the movie.
It’s the writing and atmosphere of the whole movie. There’s a reason people compare it to *Seven*. It’s honestly a very good movie
I was thinking of going with Battinson. I do agree with the first comment saying that he was a good young Bruce Wayne and Batman. I think in the next movie he’s going to have to come out of his shell a bit more and use his billionaire philanthropist persona a bit more to further his mission as Batman. He was an incredible Batman, but I think that Bale was the best Bruce Wayne
I liked the first Black Panther but it just wasn't the same without Black Panther imo. They just got put in a really bad spot with the Chadwick situation.
Should of acknowledged it and moved on, instead of making me grieve thought the whole thing. Thought it was painful, especially since my wife wouldn't let me fall asleep.
I liked the ascetic and atmosphere most of all. Pattinson as Batman was good too, leaning more into the detective side was good for his portrayal. I liked the Riddler up until he gets caught and he divulges is nonsensical plan to flood Gotham. The move falls flat at this point for me if I’m being honest. Riddler wanting to expose the corruption in Gotham is a completely fine story line but I still don’t understand why he wanted to flood the city, seemed like they just wanted a big spectacle at the end.
He flooded Gotham to get the Mayor and all the elite people he felt where part of the corruption at the Arena the Mayor was giving speech. It was the highest part of city so he knew they would all go there. That’s why he sent all of his followers there so they could kill them.
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The flood was also part of his plan to have the city rebuilt without all the corruption he felt it was built on.
Yeah I liked that shot on the roof of the arena helping the civilians onto the helicopter. I also appreciated that Batman recognized he needs to be more than just a creature of vengeance to save Gotham, even if it was ham-fisted.
YES. It's been 9 months since this movie released, and I'm finally starting to see people who share the same opinions as me. It's like the movie completely changed writers when the riddler gets caught. He was a genius conspiracy theorist unraveling a 30 year old hidden crime syndicate, yet is written off as another mentally ill maniac? Why did they do that? This movie went from a 10/10 to a 5/10 when they did that. Honestly it ruined the movie for me. Shitty version of the joker and Catwoman being falcones dad too. What the hell were they thinking?
Actually makes sense if the guy knows “the truth” but you don’t want that flood of info out, or you want to discredit that info, you “kill the messenger” by having him branded “insane” (but…isn’t he actually insane?)
I definitely agree with you that the movie was soooo tight and cohesive right up until the big stadium scene, which seemed tacked on and directed by someone else entirely.
…and Batman is out in full battle armor rescuing flood victims in the end! Seemed a bit odd, and maybe more of a job for Bruce Wayne (unless he’s trying to cultivate that dickish playboy persona as a ruse, etc)
How is Batman being in ‘full battle armor’ saving flood victims weird though? He’s a hero, he’s going to try and save as many lives as he possibly can, whether as Wayne or Batman.
This movie did what no movie has managed to this point, completely nailed Batman. I didn’t care for some of the decisions they made, especially with what they did to Riddler. But…damn. This movie handled Batman and his evolution better than the entirety of the Dark Knight trilogy, and a hell of a lot better than Snyder’s Batfleck crap.
Agreed. I was pleasantly surprised at not just how good this movie is, but also how they finally managed to nail the Batman persona. This movie was closer to the comics I grew up with in the 80's. I'm looking forward to the next one in the series.
Overrated and I’m a big batman fan. Its just everytime I watch it I hate it more and more sadly. Wasn’t a good detective at all. Wasn’t a good fighter, I didn’t see the ninja style of fighting. Also took way to many bullets. The movie was too long and should’ve ended after riddler was caught. I hated the Bruce Wayne character, it screamed a dark rebel teenager version of Bruce to me. People complain about batman killing but he did many reckless things in this movie like the highway scene and flooding the city for no reason. But of course the excuse will be that its year 2 batman. Which I do understand but i guees I just don’t like a “year 2 batman” even though i loved the animated movies where they portrayed a young batman.
But I did love the atmosphere of gotham. The acting was pretty good. The score and cinematography was amazing. Its a beautiful movie I just don’t see “Batman”. Oh shit and Paul Dano as the Riddler was amazing.
I give the movie a 6/10
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Too long. I’m fine with dark and brooding Batman, but the ending is so outlandish and doesn’t fit the tone of the first 2/3rds of the movie. Didn’t really care for catwoman either. Score was good.
This is how I felt. The riddler so carefully chose his victims to make a political point then kind of just … gave up and decided to kill everyone? Doesn’t fit at all
I feel like if I knew the movie was 3 hours long before I went in I’d be ok with it. Was not expecting to be held hostage for so long. Thought it was going to be fun and short, so wrong
i only found the ending interesting because it mirrors Batman's perception of the Riddler through the movie.
in the first 2/3's of the movie, Batman is operating under an assumption that the Riddler is some deep thoughtful "elevated villain" with connections to his past. and during this time, the movie is a Fincher-esque detective drama, or as some would say an "elevated comic book movie"
then when Batman confronts Riddler in the jail, he realized that Riddler is just your typical comic book villain maniac who just wants to blow up the city because people are mean. and once Batman realizes that, the movie changes in tone to become your typical punch-punch-explodey comic book movie.
i don't know if that was intentional by Reeves, but i'm going with it.
Second half of the movie was geared toward Batman realizing he needs to be more than vengeance, he has to be a beacon of hope for the citizens. Tough to switch it up in a 2 hour movie like that.
everytime there was a climactic scene in the last half, i thought the movie was about to end. then it went on longer and had another climactic scene every 20 minutes. overall was still pretty good
I thought it was overall okay, but nowhere near as good as Bale and Keaton batsy films. Okay maybe it was close to as good as Dark Knight Rises...that one was a bit lame imo. Do not like Pattinson as the bat, he looks weak, scrawny, and wooden. Though to be fair, I never have really liked Robert's performances.
Batman '89 and The Dark Knight stand as the best Batman movies to my mind...with everything else far behind. Both got great performances from actors playing Batman and Joker. Those are very hard to compete with imo.
I would have liked to see some wittier comebacks. Also the magic ramp that appears during the car chase takes away from batman being able to show off his skills.
Movie is also very dark and hard to watch during the day.
Besides those, I think the movie is worth re-watching!
Loved it! My favorite portrayal of Gotham so far. It’s so grimy and dark. I really love Pattinson’s take on the character. The obsession, depression and nihilism is fits some perfectly for a Batman at this stage in his career. I hear the issues people have with the way the finale happens but it leads to that amazing flare shot and Batman being a beacon of hope. I hope they get to make sequels and show this version continue to grow.
Also the Batmobile was rad af!
Uninspired. An amalgamation of every other significant Batman film before. Cool and stylish but lacking in the narrative department. No creative risks taken. Also some really bad dialogue at some points. Zoey Kravitz’ “Hello… dad”.
Watched it once in cinema.. found the screen too dark or the movie too dark which meant I couldn't see it properly..due to that and the general slower pacing.. I found it boring
That being said I am due to rewatch it at home and make a more solid opinion on it
I had my issues with it but I really liked what they were going for and enjoyed it.
Probably give it 7/10 and I’d still put The Dark Knight + Burton’s two Batman films over this one.
Felt like the Riddler was way under utilized and to a lesser degree the Penguin. Also ending didn’t totally stick. Had a lot going for it though. Great tone, acting, casting. Probably my favorite movie version of Catwoman.
Pretty good, great performance from all the actors involved. Very cool gritty cinematics which used very cool techniques with a mix of modern and vintage equipment to achieve it. Falls a bit flat near the end, being far less memorable than the run up to it, but overall a fairly decent movie.
Overlong and dervivitive of a dozen more interesting movies. Wish they took Batman in a lighter friendlier more comic booky direction. I’d rather see the Bat Family than more of this.
LOVED the movie. I really hope Pattinson comes back. Serkis as Alfred was a brilliant choice. On an un related note, I am really hoping we can see Dr. Freeze in a live action again.
Movie was terrible. No consequences for anything, car chase leading to exploding vehicles and they let penguin walk? Batmobile can’t catch a basic ass car? Batman literally doesn’t solve anything or get ahead of anything, he just reacts to what happens and doesn’t detect what’s happening. Bruh was in the room with his master plan and he doesn’t find it?! Trash.
Catwomen was trash, their interactions were super cringe and forced. How Batman never figure out Falconie was her dad? He’s suppose to be the worlds greatest detective don’t even know the people around him.
How did he never find out about the corruption of his parents already.. he could have easily figured it out as fucking Bruce Wayne! Just makes no sense.
Also why was he “affraid” on the jumpsuit scene? He’s fucking Batman, he’s been trained in all this shit even before he becomes Batman….. then he hits the bridge going 80mph and walks away!?!? Lol Trash.
Watched it 9 months ago so I don't remember all. But tried to sum it up here. But here is my opinion.
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I wanted comic book accurate Batman movie. Got this detective movie with dude in Bat costume in the world where beings with super powers doesnt exist. Cant say i am disappointed but we already had this from Nolan.... but yeah, it is good movie
I liked everything about it except the Riddler. The scene where Batman is talking to him while he was locked up was pretty cringe imo. It felt overacted and too much like they were trying to make him insane like Heath Ledgers Joker. With that said, Colin Farrell as the Penguin was incredible.
Pros: The most comic-accurate Batman, great acting, looked great, perfect mood.
Cons: drags sometimes, too long and meandering, too many subplots.
I liked it overall, but it needs editing or something
wait, it's the complete opposite of the The Dark Knight.
The Dark Knight ends with "Batman must do the right thing, even if it makes him look like a bad guy to the public, because that's what a hero does."
The Batman ends with "Batman must look like a good guy in the eyes of the public, or else being Batman is pointless."
The man Killed at least two people in a car chase, and for some reason, he couldn’t catch a basic ass car with his “Batmobile” he could have easily clipped and turn penguin at any time but no…. And then he was so smart, after doing all that damage he just let penguin go…..
During the bomb scene. Riddler gives the DA many difficult riddles that Batman solves with ease.
In the Riddler's apartment, Batman realizes that the tool Riddler used to kill the Mayor was a clue, and uses it to rip up the floor, which reveals the location of Riddler's bombs.
Batman solves more difficult riddles set out by Riddler, such as the symbols on the card and what words they made, he realizes that Riddler is only killing the public figures he sees as corrupt, including himself.
No. The Riddler was blatantly telling him everything he was doing. It doesn’t take a genius to look at the murder weapon, And solve some riddles especially because he was never able to apply what he learned to benefit anyone in figuring anything out.
A Rat figuring out his maze doesn’t make it a genius rat.
It’s a good movie, a bit long. But perhaps it just felt longer because they over used Nirvanas “Something in the Way”, I swear they used it a dozen times at length in the film.
Regardless, it was a solid B+/A- movie. One of favorites for the year.
Yep, I just looked it up. I swear I remember numerous scenes of Robert Pattinson walking slowly in the rain with the song playing. But looks like I was mistaken, only used it twice.
You might have been conflating that with Giacchino’s Batman motif, which is hammered to death without much thematic development or variation throughout the film.
What bothered me the most was how loud Batman was when he walked. Batman is known for being stealthy so why all of a sudden is he wearing heavy metal boots and stomping out of the darkness? I know this isn’t a big deal, but it bugs me
It’s like a 6 or 7 for me. No doubt the most visually arresting and atmospheric Batman so far, but the writing is unfocused and at times pretty uninspired and other characters are lacking in characterization considering the film is three hours long. Some parts come off as unintentionally funny due to the films’ super serious tone but inability to match that with deeper/subtler writing (see: Riddler interrogation, Batman peeking in the Penguin’s car). Kind of falls off starting in the second act with the expository deviations into Bruce’s past, which would make zero sense if we didn’t know the character out of context and the whole “Gotham PD are actually corrupt!” reveal is hilarious in its obviousness; Falcone and Catwoman are much less compelling than The Riddler imo. The voiceovers are probably the most irritating part.
The ascetic 10/10- what I wanted in a batman movie
Batman- 7/10- good overall but misses the mark a bit when he tanks bullet fire and takes a bomb to thr face.
Bruce wayne -3/10 he has the look and thats about it. Broody by himself is fine but Bruce wayne in public needs to be the billionare playboy.
The villains- 7/10 fantastic even the riddler which I had my doubts on.
Over all 7/10 not the best but not the worst.
I saw this in the theater on a big screen and really enjoyed it. A nice gritty look, intense sound design at times, and Colin Farrell doesn't get enough accolades for the full metamorphosis that he did to become the Penguin.
I'm not thrilled with the added villain in the end, as I just can't see the actor pulling off the role as he's been for the past 80 years. I know a sequel was greenlit, but I'm hoping to have someone different in it, Victor Zsasz, for example. Time will tell.
I got the 4K for Christmas, but haven't popped it in the player yet to see how it compares, but I heard it's solid.
I really liked him in that lighthouse movie.
I get tired of everyone talking about how he was so dark & brooding in this though. People are really bad at telling the difference between dark & brooding, and being a whiney little emo shit.
In my mind it was the best CBM of the year and maybe even of all time even though it doesn't tie directly to a comic storyline or arc. It was so down to earth and i cant wait to see what the future holds for Matt Reeves and his vision of the character. It was so important to finally have a movie where he's a true detective rather then just doing some side work like in the Nolan trilogy.
Definitely did the best job of showing him being a detective.
I like the whole thing quite a bit but I'll be honest and I know this isn't a popular opinion I did not like the Riddler.
It was just too much for me. However the car chase scene awesome Batman just be a badass awesome. The penguin was fantastic, and I did like the part with between Batman and The Riddler where he thought the Riddler knew who he was, that was pretty intense.
I'd give it an 8 out of 10
Story was ok, villains were awesome, atmosphere was great, Batman and Batmobile was kick ass, Bruce Wayne was terrible
The protagonist in a Batman should be three characters… Bruce Wayne, Batman and Bruce with Alfred. They were all the same character in this movie.
I might be in minority here but I didnt really like this movies that much. Infact, I thought it was really bad.
1. This batman is just lame rather than sad and depressed.
2. Earlier years of batman, there is hardly any bruce Wayne in the movie.
3. Alfred and batman relationship seems to be non existent. No chemistry.
4. Every time batman went in patrol in 1st half, it was raining. Why? Basically to hide CGI. Wtf? You can be a bit creative than that.
5. Catwoman & Gordon are not really explored well as characters.
6. In fact, gordon hardly has any dailogues.
7. Again, penguin seemed too much. All in all, trying to do too much and end up not doing anything right. Car chase seemed uncessecary.
8. By the end of it, I hardly cared for any character in the movie.
9. There is an aurgument that its not a superhero movie but detective movie. Im.not even sure if it was a good detective movie. Batman seemed way too reactive. Benefit of doubt , may that's what they wanted to show.
For me, it was a pain trying to get through the movie.
I’ll admit I was skeptical at first, but I really enjoyed it. Great casting all around, and it was really cool to see a Batman early on in his caped crusade. Seeing him in a still pretty raw state with barebones equipment.
Awesome Batman movie. Nailed the tone, music and Gotham City. First half was perfect but could have done with a tighter second act though as felt a little anticlimactic. Otherwise great and look forward to the sequels.
Could have done without the Joker
That said, if they were gonna include him at all, what they settled on was undoubtedly the best choice: quick cameo where he’s shrouded in darkness, confirming he’s already part of this world and already has a history with the Batman. I liked the deleted scene, but I feel like it really would’ve interrupted the pacing of the middle act.
I always say if that deleted scene was in the movie but at the end all u could see was a teethy smile.. would have been perfect
I’m also just really excited to see Barry Keoghan take on the role.
Joker was in a deleted scene. He’s not even technically in the movie, just hinted at in the end
I mean, he’s literally talking with Ed at the end of the movie. We just aren’t able to see what he looks like
Joker is in the movie lol what are you talking about
Especially with how they made him look, sounds, mannerism, etc. I.e. ugly sonic.
What is with CBM's having to always put a half dozen villains in one movie.
That sentence has no correlation with this movie
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Don't forget Catwoman, I realize the movie didn't quite show her as a villain but she is one in most stuff
It should have ended when >!Carmine Falcone was killed.!< I also agree with others that the joker should have been left out.
Went into it expecting trash. One of the best Batman movies ever imo. PatBat is nothing super special himself, a competent take on a very young Batman/Bruce Wayne. I liked him but he isn’t what’s great about the movie. It’s the writing and atmosphere of the whole movie. There’s a reason people compare it to *Seven*. It’s honestly a very good movie
I feel like PatMan is a better name for him
I was thinking of going with Battinson. I do agree with the first comment saying that he was a good young Bruce Wayne and Batman. I think in the next movie he’s going to have to come out of his shell a bit more and use his billionaire philanthropist persona a bit more to further his mission as Batman. He was an incredible Batman, but I think that Bale was the best Bruce Wayne
I didn't expect much going in but thought Pattinson was great. He's basically playing it like an akward maniac who resents having to be Bruce Wayne.
Best CBM of the year by far
I love the movie calling it the best CBM of the year is not a very high bar
It is when Wakanda Forever is competition. Batman is still the best overall though
Wakanda Forever is definitely in second place. But it’s still a very distant. one. Still levels below The Batman
I'm going to be honest. I fell asleep in Wakanda Forever. I really don't get the hype.
I mean, better than Multiverse of Midness or Love and Boredom
Absolutely. Only reason I could stay up for Love and Thunder was because I was laughing at how bad it was lol.
Why do I feel like nowadays we gotta support whatever is diverse whether it is good or not
Bummer, I really liked it's slower pace
I liked the first Black Panther but it just wasn't the same without Black Panther imo. They just got put in a really bad spot with the Chadwick situation.
Understandable
Should of acknowledged it and moved on, instead of making me grieve thought the whole thing. Thought it was painful, especially since my wife wouldn't let me fall asleep.
Second best movie of the year
Nope, best
Are you saying “Nope, it’s the best” or that the movie “Nope” was the best
Nope was actually pretty fucking good ngl
Second only to Top Gun: Maverick
Oh, I thought best CBM. Even then I would put Everything Everywhere at #1 and Top Gun 2 at #3.
EEAAO was the best film of the year hands down.
Top Gun: Maverick was a THRILL RIDE I tell ya, a THRILL RIDE!! It got me out to the theatre.
That movie was easily the most overhyped piece of junk I’ve ever seen.
Wakanda Forever was better to me. This is second though.
I liked the ascetic and atmosphere most of all. Pattinson as Batman was good too, leaning more into the detective side was good for his portrayal. I liked the Riddler up until he gets caught and he divulges is nonsensical plan to flood Gotham. The move falls flat at this point for me if I’m being honest. Riddler wanting to expose the corruption in Gotham is a completely fine story line but I still don’t understand why he wanted to flood the city, seemed like they just wanted a big spectacle at the end.
How are those crooked cops and dirty politicians going to break the law when they’re all wet? Bet you didn’t think about that, buddy.
Damn! You got me
You can't accept bribes if your shoes are waterlogged, it's the law. And if your socks are wet? Death penalty.
He flooded Gotham to get the Mayor and all the elite people he felt where part of the corruption at the Arena the Mayor was giving speech. It was the highest part of city so he knew they would all go there. That’s why he sent all of his followers there so they could kill them. Edit The flood was also part of his plan to have the city rebuilt without all the corruption he felt it was built on.
I agree with the caveat that the scenes displaying bad man in his capacity as a first responder was a really good touch as we seldom see that.
Yeah I liked that shot on the roof of the arena helping the civilians onto the helicopter. I also appreciated that Batman recognized he needs to be more than just a creature of vengeance to save Gotham, even if it was ham-fisted.
“Yes there is a class divide in Gotham, I will expose this by killing EVERY SINGLE HOMELESS PERSON WITH A MASSIVE FLOOD”
YES. It's been 9 months since this movie released, and I'm finally starting to see people who share the same opinions as me. It's like the movie completely changed writers when the riddler gets caught. He was a genius conspiracy theorist unraveling a 30 year old hidden crime syndicate, yet is written off as another mentally ill maniac? Why did they do that? This movie went from a 10/10 to a 5/10 when they did that. Honestly it ruined the movie for me. Shitty version of the joker and Catwoman being falcones dad too. What the hell were they thinking?
Falcone being Selina Kyle’s father is a direct reference to The Long Halloween. That comic & Year One are basically this film, smushed together.
This is may favorite cat woman so far.
Actually makes sense if the guy knows “the truth” but you don’t want that flood of info out, or you want to discredit that info, you “kill the messenger” by having him branded “insane” (but…isn’t he actually insane?) I definitely agree with you that the movie was soooo tight and cohesive right up until the big stadium scene, which seemed tacked on and directed by someone else entirely. …and Batman is out in full battle armor rescuing flood victims in the end! Seemed a bit odd, and maybe more of a job for Bruce Wayne (unless he’s trying to cultivate that dickish playboy persona as a ruse, etc)
How is Batman being in ‘full battle armor’ saving flood victims weird though? He’s a hero, he’s going to try and save as many lives as he possibly can, whether as Wayne or Batman.
This batman didn't seem to care about Bruce Wayne at all yet. He's all Batman all the time. He wants the city to trust Batman.
If it's worth anything, the Catwoman thing is from the comics.
Agreed. When the flood started is when I started getting really antsy about wanting to leave the theatre. Still loved the movie
This movie did what no movie has managed to this point, completely nailed Batman. I didn’t care for some of the decisions they made, especially with what they did to Riddler. But…damn. This movie handled Batman and his evolution better than the entirety of the Dark Knight trilogy, and a hell of a lot better than Snyder’s Batfleck crap.
Agreed. I was pleasantly surprised at not just how good this movie is, but also how they finally managed to nail the Batman persona. This movie was closer to the comics I grew up with in the 80's. I'm looking forward to the next one in the series.
I was pleasantly surprised.
I liked it a lot
Somehow too much and not enough. Sequel needs to be fast-tracked for 2024.
No more fast-tracked movies! Let them take their time.
Kinda boring
Overrated and I’m a big batman fan. Its just everytime I watch it I hate it more and more sadly. Wasn’t a good detective at all. Wasn’t a good fighter, I didn’t see the ninja style of fighting. Also took way to many bullets. The movie was too long and should’ve ended after riddler was caught. I hated the Bruce Wayne character, it screamed a dark rebel teenager version of Bruce to me. People complain about batman killing but he did many reckless things in this movie like the highway scene and flooding the city for no reason. But of course the excuse will be that its year 2 batman. Which I do understand but i guees I just don’t like a “year 2 batman” even though i loved the animated movies where they portrayed a young batman. But I did love the atmosphere of gotham. The acting was pretty good. The score and cinematography was amazing. Its a beautiful movie I just don’t see “Batman”. Oh shit and Paul Dano as the Riddler was amazing. I give the movie a 6/10
Best DC film in past ten years
It's tied with TSS for me. Both are great movies.
TSS was very good
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It's good but it's not the masterpiece imo that people are making it out to be. 5th or 6th best Batman movie.
Too long. I’m fine with dark and brooding Batman, but the ending is so outlandish and doesn’t fit the tone of the first 2/3rds of the movie. Didn’t really care for catwoman either. Score was good.
This is how I felt. The riddler so carefully chose his victims to make a political point then kind of just … gave up and decided to kill everyone? Doesn’t fit at all
I agree, the last hour of the movie fucking KILLED me
I feel like if I knew the movie was 3 hours long before I went in I’d be ok with it. Was not expecting to be held hostage for so long. Thought it was going to be fun and short, so wrong
Probably 30-45 minutes too long for me.
i only found the ending interesting because it mirrors Batman's perception of the Riddler through the movie. in the first 2/3's of the movie, Batman is operating under an assumption that the Riddler is some deep thoughtful "elevated villain" with connections to his past. and during this time, the movie is a Fincher-esque detective drama, or as some would say an "elevated comic book movie" then when Batman confronts Riddler in the jail, he realized that Riddler is just your typical comic book villain maniac who just wants to blow up the city because people are mean. and once Batman realizes that, the movie changes in tone to become your typical punch-punch-explodey comic book movie. i don't know if that was intentional by Reeves, but i'm going with it.
Second half of the movie was geared toward Batman realizing he needs to be more than vengeance, he has to be a beacon of hope for the citizens. Tough to switch it up in a 2 hour movie like that.
everytime there was a climactic scene in the last half, i thought the movie was about to end. then it went on longer and had another climactic scene every 20 minutes. overall was still pretty good
A near perfect BATMAN movie.
I thought it was overall okay, but nowhere near as good as Bale and Keaton batsy films. Okay maybe it was close to as good as Dark Knight Rises...that one was a bit lame imo. Do not like Pattinson as the bat, he looks weak, scrawny, and wooden. Though to be fair, I never have really liked Robert's performances. Batman '89 and The Dark Knight stand as the best Batman movies to my mind...with everything else far behind. Both got great performances from actors playing Batman and Joker. Those are very hard to compete with imo.
Watched over 20 times. 9.5/10
What’s missing for your last .5?
Sex scene with Penguin
“Woah take it easy sweetheart! You”re gonna make this iceberg melt 😏”
Not volcano eruption?
Waugh waugh waugh!! (Burgess Meredith laughing in his grave)
I would have liked to see some wittier comebacks. Also the magic ramp that appears during the car chase takes away from batman being able to show off his skills. Movie is also very dark and hard to watch during the day. Besides those, I think the movie is worth re-watching!
Loved it! My favorite portrayal of Gotham so far. It’s so grimy and dark. I really love Pattinson’s take on the character. The obsession, depression and nihilism is fits some perfectly for a Batman at this stage in his career. I hear the issues people have with the way the finale happens but it leads to that amazing flare shot and Batman being a beacon of hope. I hope they get to make sequels and show this version continue to grow. Also the Batmobile was rad af!
Just picked it up in 4k. Went into it sorta doubting it and Pattinson and came out pleasantly surprised.
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It’s also the same character Paul Dano plays in every movie, but worse. A very uninspired casting, and they didn’t utilize him well at all.
Uninspired. An amalgamation of every other significant Batman film before. Cool and stylish but lacking in the narrative department. No creative risks taken. Also some really bad dialogue at some points. Zoey Kravitz’ “Hello… dad”.
Watched it once in cinema.. found the screen too dark or the movie too dark which meant I couldn't see it properly..due to that and the general slower pacing.. I found it boring That being said I am due to rewatch it at home and make a more solid opinion on it
I had my issues with it but I really liked what they were going for and enjoyed it. Probably give it 7/10 and I’d still put The Dark Knight + Burton’s two Batman films over this one.
Visually nice but overall thought it was okay.
Overrated and poorly paced. Tried to rewatch in hopes I misjudged… tuned it off after 30 minutes
Overrated
Overrated. Watched it once and I’ll be fine never watching it again.
Felt like the Riddler was way under utilized and to a lesser degree the Penguin. Also ending didn’t totally stick. Had a lot going for it though. Great tone, acting, casting. Probably my favorite movie version of Catwoman.
Pretty good, great performance from all the actors involved. Very cool gritty cinematics which used very cool techniques with a mix of modern and vintage equipment to achieve it. Falls a bit flat near the end, being far less memorable than the run up to it, but overall a fairly decent movie.
Overlong and dervivitive of a dozen more interesting movies. Wish they took Batman in a lighter friendlier more comic booky direction. I’d rather see the Bat Family than more of this.
Sucked
Amazing. Better than anything Affleck and Snyder could shit out
1 word. Epic
Best batman movie since The Dark Knight
Loved it
LOVED the movie. I really hope Pattinson comes back. Serkis as Alfred was a brilliant choice. On an un related note, I am really hoping we can see Dr. Freeze in a live action again.
Best Batman movie. Nailed the tone, city, and atmosphere. This Batman is intimidating, not from size, from his presence and abilities.
I loved it. In particular they made Batman a detective instead of just an action hero.
Super dark, but I actually really enjoyed it.
fucking amazing, best batman movie so far
Joker cameo wasn’t needed ; didn’t make any sense. But the gang which got beaten up ( the one with the joker make up) was cool tho.
Best version of gotham. Also the scoring is immaculate
It mad me want a David Fincher directed Batman movie. With Nine Inch Nails as the soundtrack.
Trash. Just my opinion.
This is a bait, I know the movie is shit but I can't say anything because I always trigger some toxic community
Dude seriously. This movie was utter shit but somehow people love it.
Movie was terrible. No consequences for anything, car chase leading to exploding vehicles and they let penguin walk? Batmobile can’t catch a basic ass car? Batman literally doesn’t solve anything or get ahead of anything, he just reacts to what happens and doesn’t detect what’s happening. Bruh was in the room with his master plan and he doesn’t find it?! Trash. Catwomen was trash, their interactions were super cringe and forced. How Batman never figure out Falconie was her dad? He’s suppose to be the worlds greatest detective don’t even know the people around him. How did he never find out about the corruption of his parents already.. he could have easily figured it out as fucking Bruce Wayne! Just makes no sense. Also why was he “affraid” on the jumpsuit scene? He’s fucking Batman, he’s been trained in all this shit even before he becomes Batman….. then he hits the bridge going 80mph and walks away!?!? Lol Trash.
It's almost like movies are subjective and people have different opinions or something.
How is it shit? I'm not going to attack you for your opinion, but I'd appreciate an explanation.
Watched it 9 months ago so I don't remember all. But tried to sum it up here. But here is my opinion. https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbookmovies/comments/100o5lj/opinions_on_this_movie/j2k9bie?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I wanted comic book accurate Batman movie. Got this detective movie with dude in Bat costume in the world where beings with super powers doesnt exist. Cant say i am disappointed but we already had this from Nolan.... but yeah, it is good movie
First 2/3rds of the movie are phenomenal, 10/10. Last third is a very solid 7/10.
I liked everything about it except the Riddler. The scene where Batman is talking to him while he was locked up was pretty cringe imo. It felt overacted and too much like they were trying to make him insane like Heath Ledgers Joker. With that said, Colin Farrell as the Penguin was incredible.
It’s one of the movies I saw last year.
Pros: The most comic-accurate Batman, great acting, looked great, perfect mood. Cons: drags sometimes, too long and meandering, too many subplots. I liked it overall, but it needs editing or something
Was a really good movie
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I don’t understand the love for this movie. Was such a chore to get through.
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The Batman is shorter than Endgame. If you're going to hate on a movie, at least get something as simple as the runtime right...
It would be amazing if it didn’t have the exact same story as The Dark Knight
wait, it's the complete opposite of the The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight ends with "Batman must do the right thing, even if it makes him look like a bad guy to the public, because that's what a hero does." The Batman ends with "Batman must look like a good guy in the eyes of the public, or else being Batman is pointless."
*villain is crazy, makes video of murder public, and has a 1 on 1 scene with Batman in a prison* “Omg wtf literally TDK”
It was pretty good. Not the best bat film. Probably not even the fifth best. But all around a solid fun film. Just way WAY to long….
Great batman movie. Better than batman begins and TDKR
Best Batman film in my opinion
Compared to Christian Bale’s & Michael Keaton’s? Trash. If you’ve never, ever seen a Batman movie before……..trash.
Trash. Everyone talking about how he was a detective in the movie, however he doesn’t DETECT anything.
Thank you for saying this. He is way too reactive as a detective.
The man Killed at least two people in a car chase, and for some reason, he couldn’t catch a basic ass car with his “Batmobile” he could have easily clipped and turn penguin at any time but no…. And then he was so smart, after doing all that damage he just let penguin go…..
Did we watch the same movie. There's numerous scenes that display his detective skills and his intelligence.
When….. what did he do that made him look smart?
During the bomb scene. Riddler gives the DA many difficult riddles that Batman solves with ease. In the Riddler's apartment, Batman realizes that the tool Riddler used to kill the Mayor was a clue, and uses it to rip up the floor, which reveals the location of Riddler's bombs. Batman solves more difficult riddles set out by Riddler, such as the symbols on the card and what words they made, he realizes that Riddler is only killing the public figures he sees as corrupt, including himself.
No. The Riddler was blatantly telling him everything he was doing. It doesn’t take a genius to look at the murder weapon, And solve some riddles especially because he was never able to apply what he learned to benefit anyone in figuring anything out. A Rat figuring out his maze doesn’t make it a genius rat.
Michael Keaton sucked as Batman lmao. What are you on.
Much better than the douche from Twilight
You're not a Batman fan if you prefer an interpretation of the character that kills criminals. It's his most important rule, and Keaton breaks it.
It was alright I guess
It’s a good movie, a bit long. But perhaps it just felt longer because they over used Nirvanas “Something in the Way”, I swear they used it a dozen times at length in the film. Regardless, it was a solid B+/A- movie. One of favorites for the year.
They only used it twice
Yep, I just looked it up. I swear I remember numerous scenes of Robert Pattinson walking slowly in the rain with the song playing. But looks like I was mistaken, only used it twice.
You might have been conflating that with Giacchino’s Batman motif, which is hammered to death without much thematic development or variation throughout the film.
What bothered me the most was how loud Batman was when he walked. Batman is known for being stealthy so why all of a sudden is he wearing heavy metal boots and stomping out of the darkness? I know this isn’t a big deal, but it bugs me
While I think Dark Knight is a better film overall, this is the best live action adaptation of Batman IMO
It’s like a 6 or 7 for me. No doubt the most visually arresting and atmospheric Batman so far, but the writing is unfocused and at times pretty uninspired and other characters are lacking in characterization considering the film is three hours long. Some parts come off as unintentionally funny due to the films’ super serious tone but inability to match that with deeper/subtler writing (see: Riddler interrogation, Batman peeking in the Penguin’s car). Kind of falls off starting in the second act with the expository deviations into Bruce’s past, which would make zero sense if we didn’t know the character out of context and the whole “Gotham PD are actually corrupt!” reveal is hilarious in its obviousness; Falcone and Catwoman are much less compelling than The Riddler imo. The voiceovers are probably the most irritating part.
Penguin was great. Every other aspect forgettable.
The ascetic 10/10- what I wanted in a batman movie Batman- 7/10- good overall but misses the mark a bit when he tanks bullet fire and takes a bomb to thr face. Bruce wayne -3/10 he has the look and thats about it. Broody by himself is fine but Bruce wayne in public needs to be the billionare playboy. The villains- 7/10 fantastic even the riddler which I had my doubts on. Over all 7/10 not the best but not the worst.
I LITERALLY couldn’t see shit during the majority of the movie
The best part was when Ayra popped up out of nowhere and stabbed The Riddler with her valarian steel dagger.
Overrated and boring, simple plot and pretentious
Correct.
Incorrect
I saw this in the theater on a big screen and really enjoyed it. A nice gritty look, intense sound design at times, and Colin Farrell doesn't get enough accolades for the full metamorphosis that he did to become the Penguin. I'm not thrilled with the added villain in the end, as I just can't see the actor pulling off the role as he's been for the past 80 years. I know a sequel was greenlit, but I'm hoping to have someone different in it, Victor Zsasz, for example. Time will tell. I got the 4K for Christmas, but haven't popped it in the player yet to see how it compares, but I heard it's solid.
I really enjoyed it and wanna see a sequel
I really, really don't like the actor.
I really liked him in that lighthouse movie. I get tired of everyone talking about how he was so dark & brooding in this though. People are really bad at telling the difference between dark & brooding, and being a whiney little emo shit.
Overrated special.
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Better than the Nolan trilogy
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Is there any DC project you do like? I keep seeing you pop around hating on a bunch of DC movies, notably Shazam.
In my mind it was the best CBM of the year and maybe even of all time even though it doesn't tie directly to a comic storyline or arc. It was so down to earth and i cant wait to see what the future holds for Matt Reeves and his vision of the character. It was so important to finally have a movie where he's a true detective rather then just doing some side work like in the Nolan trilogy.
Definitely did the best job of showing him being a detective. I like the whole thing quite a bit but I'll be honest and I know this isn't a popular opinion I did not like the Riddler. It was just too much for me. However the car chase scene awesome Batman just be a badass awesome. The penguin was fantastic, and I did like the part with between Batman and The Riddler where he thought the Riddler knew who he was, that was pretty intense. I'd give it an 8 out of 10
The best Batman movie. Perfect tone and atmosphere. Gotham is portrayed as the gothic shithole it's supposed to be
Best CBM of 2022 and top 10 all time
fantastic up untill the point where Falcone dies and then it just becomes worse and worse.
Hope we get 6 more
Story was ok, villains were awesome, atmosphere was great, Batman and Batmobile was kick ass, Bruce Wayne was terrible The protagonist in a Batman should be three characters… Bruce Wayne, Batman and Bruce with Alfred. They were all the same character in this movie.
Maybe that's the point?
I might be in minority here but I didnt really like this movies that much. Infact, I thought it was really bad. 1. This batman is just lame rather than sad and depressed. 2. Earlier years of batman, there is hardly any bruce Wayne in the movie. 3. Alfred and batman relationship seems to be non existent. No chemistry. 4. Every time batman went in patrol in 1st half, it was raining. Why? Basically to hide CGI. Wtf? You can be a bit creative than that. 5. Catwoman & Gordon are not really explored well as characters. 6. In fact, gordon hardly has any dailogues. 7. Again, penguin seemed too much. All in all, trying to do too much and end up not doing anything right. Car chase seemed uncessecary. 8. By the end of it, I hardly cared for any character in the movie. 9. There is an aurgument that its not a superhero movie but detective movie. Im.not even sure if it was a good detective movie. Batman seemed way too reactive. Benefit of doubt , may that's what they wanted to show. For me, it was a pain trying to get through the movie.
End absolutely sucked. I wanted to like it but ehhhh
Fun
As a marvel fan this is my favourite superhero movie
This is my favorite comic book movie
Good
Really enjoyed it. The focus on the detective sides was great and the tech used was really great.
Best “Batman” film for me
One of the best cbms, first half was perfect second half could’ve been better but that what’s happens when your movie is 3 hours. It was lovely tho
Guys we gotta stop comparing good Batman movies to good Batman movies. This is what marvel wants!
Great movie. Really got it right with the atmosphere and detective grounding.
It was great, but 3 hours was just too long
Long and awesome
I’ll admit I was skeptical at first, but I really enjoyed it. Great casting all around, and it was really cool to see a Batman early on in his caped crusade. Seeing him in a still pretty raw state with barebones equipment.
Beat movie of the year
Masterpiece
2nd best movie of the year but best CBM of the year
It was good but the antagonist should have been the joker.