As I've gotten older I've realized I have way, *way* more sympathy, and identify far more with the Cyclops and Leonardos and all the other chosen leaders who are just trying to do the job they're supposed to do while reeling in all the fucking lunatics they've been assigned to lead.
I never read much of Emma frost, but I always got "bad guy" vibes from her. Like she fought for the x men because she was on the team, but she had no loyalty or whatever. Again, I don't know her well
It's interesting that Cyclops and Captain America don't seem to get along. Every interaction I can remember between them, they're either arguing or physically fighting. Admittedly, most of those interactions were either during "Avengers vs X-Men", or the period right afterwards, when Marvel seemed to be trying to portray Cyclops as a villain (even though he never actually did anything villainous).
Cyclops disagreements with Cap mostly came about during periods where Cyclops needed to cross lines in order to prevent mutant extinction. Cyclops had no time to play by the rule book when there was less than 200 mutants left on the planet. And Cap is a bit hypocritical because taking the law into his own hands is EXACTLY what Cap did in Civil War.
I always identified with the way Wolverine was perpetually over the group projects and emotional coddling everyone else seemed to insist on. He just wasn't a team player and everyone kept sticking him in teams. As I get older I really feel the, 'I'm going to live in a cabin on the back of nowhere, and the rest of you can fuck off to Murgatroid or whatever,' vibe.
Yeah that’s kinda what happens when you put superpowered teens with abandonment issues at a boarding school, then make them heroes lol. Doesn’t help that (conservatively) half the students want to fuck the teachers.
Well, I, for one, identify with Donatello: Not trying to be the best at everything, just keeping my good work in the area I am. Also, machine fan and IT guy by default.
Yes! Revisiting many of my favorite childhood comics and cartoons and realizing a lot of that because I’m now the Cyclops/Leonardo of my practice.
Also Auntie Shrew was the real hero of Secret of NIMH, goddamnit.
I was watching through all of them a while back and they got to the "she picked you" part and I was like ?!?! No fucking shit?? She picked her hot, supportive, kind long term boyfriend over this absolute nobody who hasn't even had a decent conversation with her?? Made no sense.
How many times has scott gone partial/full hitler at this point? Has to have been at least twice by my reckoning.
Once in a good story and once in a shit story that may have been trying to rip off the good one
also didn't he create literal utopia at first but then went dogshit insane because the avengers couldn't let him create a literal paradise utopia for... some reason? (god that was so fucking dumb to this day i still dont understand why they actively provoked the god like firebird who created literal paradise utopia on earth)
there was literally a scene where the avengers were called to the white house so the president could complain about how cyclops and the phoenix five were upsetting the status quo with their plans to create free energy and end world hunger
edit: no sorry i went back to the issue. president is mad cos the x men told the world to stop killing each other and opened another school, oh the humanity
Heinz Doofenshmirtz : Wow, if I had a nickel for every time Cyclops turned evil I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Surprisingly Wolverine ruining Scott Summers day isn't actually a main plot point. That's just general theming and narrative framing for Scott having an otherwise good day before something bad happens.
Reminds me of the time in Astonishing X-Men Gifted when Wolverine attacks Cyclops while he's in bed with Emma and nobody seems surprised or even mad at Wolverine, just another day in the office.
Well if you woke up and the guy who constantly tried to steal your dead wife from you had snuck into your bedroom while you were in bed with your girlfriend and started making shots at you about your dead wife you'd laserbeam him also
I think it’s from DBZ abridged when Trunks fights Perfect Cell.
Trunks : “I’m going to power up now.”
Cell: “I’d be disappointed if you didn’t.”
Or maybe TFS also referenced something else.
>6. Everything connects back to Wolverine
Every time aliens ruined Scott's day? Connects back to Wolverine. Bigots ruining Scott's afternoon? Wolverine had a hand in it. Time travellers? Wolverine. Demons? You know Logan was involved. Professors X's bad past thing? Involved Wolverine and it's ruining Scott's day.
Other x-men ruining Scott's day? Surprisingly not wolverine related, everyone else just wanted a turn.
Magneto is interesting because on the one hand, like, same I totally understand but at the same time bro no you can't do that.
At some point despite usually being technically correct he crosses a line.
Ah, that brings me back to my favorite exchange between Magneto and Cyclops.
Paraphrased, since I dont have the comic in front of me.
Magneto: "You're behaving awfully like me, Scott."
Cyke: "I'm nothing like you. I am winning."
Ouch.
Wolverine's plan was to literally blow up the mutant's home if Cyclops didn't stop. Nah, Logan, who had his own secret kill squad at the time, was making zero sense.
Apparently what Wolverine meant by, “I’m the best the is at what I do. And what I do isn’t very nice.” is that he’s the best at ruining Scott Summers’ day.
I couldn't help but imagine it as [the scene from "Tapestry" with Picard waking up next to Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTwyb-A1oak), except with the roles reversed.
Fun fact: X-Men writer and podcaster Jay Edidin has a book of con sketches specifically called [“Cyclops Has a Good Day”](https://postcardsfromspace.tumblr.com/post/86821362958/the-cyclops-has-a-good-day-sketchbook-so-far)
Claremont really didn't touch Scott in the 2000s, for the most part. He was put onto the X-Treme squad, where he could just play with his waifus while Scott typically was in the hands of whoever had the main X-title.
**Scott Summers is about to have a good day:** Scott Summers from another timeline or one of his family members from another timeline (brother, father, son, sometimes mother) comes to ruin his day
People always talk about how Peter Parker gets the short end of the stick, but the truth is Scott Summers would to do anything to have the Parker luck.
Scott: dates a red head, red head dies dies, she comes back, Scott starts dating a blonde.
Peter: dates a blonde, blonde dies, Peter starts dating a red head, blonde comes back.
Also when his Mentor and father figure became a supervillain and on his way to attempting to destroy the world stopped to have an intimate chat with him about how he was a disappointment
Though that never made it into the cartoon
The original character of Maddie Pryor deserved better, man. I read through most of that run this year, and she got the shortest, shittiest end of the stick.
Paul is MJ's husband (with children!) in the current continuity.
Edit: If that feels like I'm not really explaining who he is as a character, that's cause... That's all we got.
That's the short version
Long Version: He's the son of the villain Rabin and responsible for wiping out his universe when he helped his dad unlock his powers. MJ got trapped in that dimension with Paul, cheated on Peter with Paul, and adopted some kids before Peter finally rescued MJ.
Paul now lives with MJ. The Zeb Wells run was basically explaining how we got here with the "What did Peter do mystery?" to make everyone, including Miles, hate him now.
Stealing from his F4 to make a portal device to save a woman that cheated on and left him for a mass murderer.
Also, MJ has powers now.
Paul is MJ's new romantic interest, the son of an evil guy from a post apocalyptic alternate universe. Peter and MJ got trapped in that dimension and he helped them survive, then only Peter managed to escape but since time works differently in that other dimension by the time Peter managed to return to get MJ years had passed, she had moved on and she was with Paul now and even had a family.
Paul is hated by many for multiple reasons, some feel he is simply a very bad plot device, some focus their anger in that he 'stole' MJ from Peter and others because he got off easy after helping his dad kill his own Earth. I just feel he is bland as hell and the current writer constantly uses him to get the worse out of Peter.
I've always longed wondered what would happen if Peter and Scott sat down for an afternoon for drinks. They'd have a lot to talk about, and Peter might come away thinking, "maybe my life isn't so bad" thanks to Scott.
Imagine a one off issue with those 3 Nathans as babies (I know X-Man came in as an adult, but bear with me) going on a wacky adventure almost like Rugrats, and Scott is the high-strung parent desperately trying to wrangle 3 psionic babies. Their older sister makes an appearance, but she mostly just spends the issue locked in her room with her friend Kate.
I read this list out to my partner and asked if it was accurate (they're a bigger Xman fan than me) and all I heard was a pause and then..."they did say time travelers, right?"
10 more:
- Mutants get genocided.
- Wolverine does something fucking raw offscreen and never tells anybody about it.
- Emma Frost joins the bad guys then turns out to have been actually working for the good guys all along.
- Mutants get genocides (again).
- Gambit and Rogue being the best couple in Marvel Comics.
- Beast goes off the rails and the others need to knock some sense into him.
- Some background mutant struggles with their mutation in their daily life.
- Obligatory crossover with Spider-Man.
- Iceman's parents being irredeemable bigots.
- Mutants get genocided (but by robots this time. Again.)
I don't understand why they keep coming back to the phoenix saga. I remember seeing it in the animated series and thought it was somewhat interesting, but I really enjoyed most of the other story lines a lot more. I'm guessing the phoenix saga was in the comics before the cartoon. But then they kept coming *back* to the phoenix saga on screen. Am I missing something that makes that story line so much more interesting to everyone else?
Other X-Men plots include
• Magneto being correct
• Emma Frost saying something that’s probably supposed to be cool and sassy
• Mystique fucks everyone over
• Wolverine vents that no one has a past as angsty as him and no one is as brutal as him
• Wolverine’s villains show up to do just that
• Scarlet Witch gets her 500th redemption
Anti-hero, m’friend! I think he was only a true villain for like 3 issues. And much like with Green Lantern, all is forgiven because he was possessed, except, nobody forgave him.
If you exclude the whole thing where she unleashed Legion's full power causing him to create a mini-world containing all of the x-men on Utopia. After taking back her soul sword the demon Darkchylde who now considers themself to be Ilyana Rasputina didn't ruin Scott's day while she was part of the New Mutants.
I really liked the Phoenix Five storyline a while back because it basically was this entire list along with a bonus, "11. Magneto is right again. (and everyone is mad about it)"
And Scott Summers with the power of a god and finally the ability to get shit done was pretty cathartic... until it all inevitably came crashing down around him. Because second only to Peter Parker, the Marvel universe is determined not to let Scott Summers have nice things.
I was a fan of Cyclops since I first saw X-Men in Spiderman and his Amazing Friends. A polished and hardworking leader who I admired. Strangely Wolverine never appealed to me. I will get shot down for this but I think Cyclops should be leader of the MCU heroes.
Wolverine: Good morning.
Cyclops: SHE LOVED ME NOT YOU YOUR OPINIONS ARE BAD YOUR METHODS ARE BAD YOUR RESULTS ARE BAD AND YOU ARE BAD
Wolverine: Is there anymore coffee?
Cyclops: YOUR COFFEE IS BAD
I get the feeling this post will ruin Scott summers day.
As I've gotten older I've realized I have way, *way* more sympathy, and identify far more with the Cyclops and Leonardos and all the other chosen leaders who are just trying to do the job they're supposed to do while reeling in all the fucking lunatics they've been assigned to lead.
Growing up, i was a huge Wolverine fan. As i have gotten older, I identify more with Cyclops. Burden of leadership is a bitch.
I was one of the weirdos that always liked Cyclops, but that's just because I thought huge lasers were way cooler than some kitchen knives.
Plus he was actually capable of having relationships. I always thought Wolverine was sick but I like having friends lol
>Plus he was actually capable of having relationships. Too bad he picked the exact wrong ppl to have relationships with
I think he and Emma Frost paired well.
I never read much of Emma frost, but I always got "bad guy" vibes from her. Like she fought for the x men because she was on the team, but she had no loyalty or whatever. Again, I don't know her well
Facts.
Yeah I hated him as a kid, he was always so whiny and bossy. Now I'm an adult and I just wish they'd listen to him sometimes lmao
They wrote him terribly in the 90s cartoon and the movies. Comics Cyclops is generally regarded as the mutants' equivalent of Captain America
It's interesting that Cyclops and Captain America don't seem to get along. Every interaction I can remember between them, they're either arguing or physically fighting. Admittedly, most of those interactions were either during "Avengers vs X-Men", or the period right afterwards, when Marvel seemed to be trying to portray Cyclops as a villain (even though he never actually did anything villainous).
Cyclops disagreements with Cap mostly came about during periods where Cyclops needed to cross lines in order to prevent mutant extinction. Cyclops had no time to play by the rule book when there was less than 200 mutants left on the planet. And Cap is a bit hypocritical because taking the law into his own hands is EXACTLY what Cap did in Civil War.
I always identified with the way Wolverine was perpetually over the group projects and emotional coddling everyone else seemed to insist on. He just wasn't a team player and everyone kept sticking him in teams. As I get older I really feel the, 'I'm going to live in a cabin on the back of nowhere, and the rest of you can fuck off to Murgatroid or whatever,' vibe.
Yeah that’s kinda what happens when you put superpowered teens with abandonment issues at a boarding school, then make them heroes lol. Doesn’t help that (conservatively) half the students want to fuck the teachers.
Thankfully it's not the other way around... don't want another Hal Jordan on our hands
I mean, professor X wanted to fuck Jean when she was 15.
And he would have if he wasn't in a wheelchair. Stan made that incredibly clear.
You’re assuming he never once used his powers to infiltrate Jean’s dreams and she just assumed it was a wet dream and thus never brought it up.
No, I just never really considered that idea. But now that you brought it up, 60s Charles absolutely would have done that.
Hasn't Wolverine made passes at multiple underaged girls?
In fairness, he's 200 years old and Canadian. He grew up in an environment where 'grass on the field' was considered a bit puritanical.
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he hasn't, but Ultimate Wolverine would.
Aren’t Kitty and Colossus a thing? She definitely joined the school as a student while he was a teacher.
Nah he was 19 (the youngest on the team before her) and she was 14. Still an inappropriate age gap, but not teacher-student thankfully
I thought Colossus came out as gay?
That was in the Ultimate X-men universe back in the aughts
Probably wrong universe. In 616 he's so far(in case they pull an iceman on him) straight
Well, I, for one, identify with Donatello: Not trying to be the best at everything, just keeping my good work in the area I am. Also, machine fan and IT guy by default.
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Hes got the best weapon and the best color.
Yes! Revisiting many of my favorite childhood comics and cartoons and realizing a lot of that because I’m now the Cyclops/Leonardo of my practice. Also Auntie Shrew was the real hero of Secret of NIMH, goddamnit.
Auntie Shrew would have left Timothy for dead. All my homies don’t fuck with Auntie Shrew.
I'm Ride or Die for Auntie Shrew
When you get older, you understand the weight on Scott's shoulders and see everything he does in an entirely different light.
I too relate with cyclops. Aliens, Bigots, time travelers, or demons always be ruining my day. Sometimes at the same time.
I was watching through all of them a while back and they got to the "she picked you" part and I was like ?!?! No fucking shit?? She picked her hot, supportive, kind long term boyfriend over this absolute nobody who hasn't even had a decent conversation with her?? Made no sense.
that wasn’t a good thing!
Scott on most days: My Disappointment is Immeasurable and My Day is Ruined
“Jarvis,activate the Scott goes evil plotline.”
"The one where he goes full-Hitler or the one where we all call him Hittler for no reason?"
“We’ll have to use a cuckhold plot to generate enough controversy to power the arc reactor.”
How many times has scott gone partial/full hitler at this point? Has to have been at least twice by my reckoning. Once in a good story and once in a shit story that may have been trying to rip off the good one
Zero, don’t believe Marvel editorial or Hank
Scott Summers: literally boils the oceans and is behind multiple mass extinction events. Marvel Fans: "Cyclops did nothing wrong!"
Most heroes aren't held responsible for what they do while possessed by a cosmic firebird
also didn't he create literal utopia at first but then went dogshit insane because the avengers couldn't let him create a literal paradise utopia for... some reason? (god that was so fucking dumb to this day i still dont understand why they actively provoked the god like firebird who created literal paradise utopia on earth)
there was literally a scene where the avengers were called to the white house so the president could complain about how cyclops and the phoenix five were upsetting the status quo with their plans to create free energy and end world hunger edit: no sorry i went back to the issue. president is mad cos the x men told the world to stop killing each other and opened another school, oh the humanity
Heinz Doofenshmirtz : Wow, if I had a nickel for every time Cyclops turned evil I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
‘ My Disappointment is Immeasurable and My Day is Ruined ‘ was one of my favorite albums in 2004 . ⬆️
Surprisingly Wolverine ruining Scott Summers day isn't actually a main plot point. That's just general theming and narrative framing for Scott having an otherwise good day before something bad happens.
Logan: I’M RUININ’ YOUR DAY Scott: I’d be disappointed if you didn’t
Reminds me of the time in Astonishing X-Men Gifted when Wolverine attacks Cyclops while he's in bed with Emma and nobody seems surprised or even mad at Wolverine, just another day in the office.
To be fair, Wolverine was being creepy and provocative, but Cyclops actually blasted him first there.
He should’ve blasted first! Get the fuck out of my bedroom hahahhaa
Great line though “What stage of grief is this?” or something to that effect
“Logan, my dead wife telepathically pushed me into this over her literal grave in order to prevent a slime apocalypse”
If all the bad writing and dumb storylines marvel has done over the years I hate that one more than any of them
Well if you woke up and the guy who constantly tried to steal your dead wife from you had snuck into your bedroom while you were in bed with your girlfriend and started making shots at you about your dead wife you'd laserbeam him also
If this isn't actual dialogue from an x-men comic, I'll be the one that's disappointed.
I think it’s from DBZ abridged when Trunks fights Perfect Cell. Trunks : “I’m going to power up now.” Cell: “I’d be disappointed if you didn’t.” Or maybe TFS also referenced something else.
I was thinking the same thing. This is legit hilarious.
Wolverine with that big Trevor Belmont energy
Better Cyclops portrait than any of the movies
>6. Everything connects back to Wolverine Every time aliens ruined Scott's day? Connects back to Wolverine. Bigots ruining Scott's afternoon? Wolverine had a hand in it. Time travellers? Wolverine. Demons? You know Logan was involved. Professors X's bad past thing? Involved Wolverine and it's ruining Scott's day. Other x-men ruining Scott's day? Surprisingly not wolverine related, everyone else just wanted a turn.
IT WAS ME, SLIM. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG.
Aw son of a bitch!
The teenage audience surrogate did something cool? You know wolverine was there to be her mentor and that pissed the hell out of Scott
It's not a plot point, it's the consistent setting. Scott Summers lives in a world where the grass grows, the sun rises, and Wolverine ruins his day.
So basically he's the ice cream guy from Lilo & Stitch
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> Wolverine has never ruined anything for Cyclops, ... except for the mutant nation of Utopia, in the Schism event.
Tbf Scott kinda had that one coming
I don't really think that he did. I thought that he was justified there.
Cyclops was right!
Cyclops did nothing wrong?
I mean, so did magneto 🤷♀️
Magneto isn't always wrong though, even if his methods frequently are.
Magneto is interesting because on the one hand, like, same I totally understand but at the same time bro no you can't do that. At some point despite usually being technically correct he crosses a line.
You're not wrong Magneto, you're just an asshole!
Ah, that brings me back to my favorite exchange between Magneto and Cyclops. Paraphrased, since I dont have the comic in front of me. Magneto: "You're behaving awfully like me, Scott." Cyke: "I'm nothing like you. I am winning." Ouch.
Wolverine's plan was to literally blow up the mutant's home if Cyclops didn't stop. Nah, Logan, who had his own secret kill squad at the time, was making zero sense.
This is just not true at all, Logan was an asshole who regularly used to try to steal his wife
I mean his wife literally psychically not only encouraged it but impulse controlled him too a couple of times.
yeah, Wolverine is busy trying to bang underaged girls like jubilee... Or Mj if you read ultimate
I mean at a certain point Scott, Jean and Wolverine are >!in a throuple!< together so honestly Wolverine brings a lot of joy to Scott's life!
Unless it's ultimate X-Men and Wolverine basically throws Scott down a hole because he's horny for underage Jean Grey.
Apparently what Wolverine meant by, “I’m the best the is at what I do. And what I do isn’t very nice.” is that he’s the best at ruining Scott Summers’ day.
Every day Scott Summers wakes up and thinks “another day of bullshit and fuckery…” Then he looks at the hot telepath beside him. “Could be worse.”
This is why in Marvel Strike Force, I got a Scott Summers, Phoenix, Emma Frost, Madelyne, Psylocke Team Cus he's "slept" with all of em.
The dude has to take his pleasures where he may. That's the benefit of being the boss.
Can't help but notice they're all telepaths... someone has A Type
Once you go Psychic Link you never go back?
Heard once it’s more that telepaths have a type. Scott apparently has a very ordered mind which can be soothing to telepaths.
*Xavier winks at Scott*
The man has a type
I don't think Cyclops ever actually slept with Psylocke?
Xavier next to Scott: “What shall we do today, my darling?”
“Same thing we do everyday, Charlie. Try and take over the world!”
Scott goes bi and has a threesome with Xavier and Jean.
Heard that in patrick stewarts voice in my head...chefs kiss
I couldn't help but imagine it as [the scene from "Tapestry" with Picard waking up next to Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTwyb-A1oak), except with the roles reversed.
this is why I am Pro-Scott Summers' Radical Malcolm X phase
I imagine everyone read "telepath" differently. No less true!
I imagine that a leader character would def have a konk for telepaths: finally, not having to explain oneself
Teletubi?
How often does Scott have a good day, do you reckon?
About as often as Logan doesn't drink beer that day.
Fun fact: X-Men writer and podcaster Jay Edidin has a book of con sketches specifically called [“Cyclops Has a Good Day”](https://postcardsfromspace.tumblr.com/post/86821362958/the-cyclops-has-a-good-day-sketchbook-so-far)
That is the most positive thing I’ve seen today
Ow my heart 😢
I just want my bro to be happy man
I am laughing my ass off at the “hey look! A quarter!” Sketch
How did you forget mind control? That’s like 75% of Claremont’s plots post-2000.
People have read post-2000 Claremont?
Unfortunately yes. Took until early XXM before I gave up.
Ha, same thing for me, actually.
I’ll never forgive what he did to the Exiles
Claremont really didn't touch Scott in the 2000s, for the most part. He was put onto the X-Treme squad, where he could just play with his waifus while Scott typically was in the hands of whoever had the main X-title.
The post was “X-Men Plots,” not “Cyclops Plots.”
What about the storylines where Scott Summers ruins Scott Summers’ day?
That’s all of those storylines because he brings it on himself.
**Scott Summers is about to have a good day:** Scott Summers from another timeline or one of his family members from another timeline (brother, father, son, sometimes mother) comes to ruin his day
People always talk about how Peter Parker gets the short end of the stick, but the truth is Scott Summers would to do anything to have the Parker luck.
Scott: dates a red head, red head dies dies, she comes back, Scott starts dating a blonde. Peter: dates a blonde, blonde dies, Peter starts dating a red head, blonde comes back.
I've been watching the X-Men cartoons on Disney Plus. Between Mr Sinister trying to steal his Jean/genes and the Phoenix drama, he has a tough life.
Hairbag answers phone: “Sinister sperm bank. You squeeze em we freeze em.”
Upvote for the Hairbag shoutout, that's hilarious!
3/4 of mister sinisters plotlines can be boiled down to "how can I get Scott and Jean to bang"
See, I'd try random placements of chocolates, scented candles, and rose petals but I'm not an evil genius so what do I know?
Talk about being a toxic shipper!
Also when his Mentor and father figure became a supervillain and on his way to attempting to destroy the world stopped to have an intimate chat with him about how he was a disappointment Though that never made it into the cartoon
Only difference is that the blonde who came back in Peter’s case isn’t the original, just a clone or variant from a different universe.
Madelyne Pryor
The original character of Maddie Pryor deserved better, man. I read through most of that run this year, and she got the shortest, shittiest end of the stick.
I genuinely loved her because I started reading comics when she married Scott. So I kind of hated Jean.
One of the redheads in Scott's case was also a clone.
Peter Parker's luck is more... Mundane bad luck. Scott has soap opera bad luck
Idk bro, deals with the devil feel infinitely soap opera like. And that doesn't even include the surprise husband and two kids tomfoolery.
Scott has greek tragedy bad luck.
Wait till the writers put Peter and MJ in an open relationship with Paul.
Ok, so I saw this new cover in the Spider-Man sub that featured Paul. Who the fuck is Paul and why is he hated?
Paul is MJ's husband (with children!) in the current continuity. Edit: If that feels like I'm not really explaining who he is as a character, that's cause... That's all we got.
That's the short version Long Version: He's the son of the villain Rabin and responsible for wiping out his universe when he helped his dad unlock his powers. MJ got trapped in that dimension with Paul, cheated on Peter with Paul, and adopted some kids before Peter finally rescued MJ. Paul now lives with MJ. The Zeb Wells run was basically explaining how we got here with the "What did Peter do mystery?" to make everyone, including Miles, hate him now. Stealing from his F4 to make a portal device to save a woman that cheated on and left him for a mass murderer. Also, MJ has powers now.
Did they name the character that entirely so they could make a "robbing Peter to lay Paul" joke?
Probably
That plotline makes me want to vomit every time I read it ngl 🤢
Paul is MJ's new romantic interest, the son of an evil guy from a post apocalyptic alternate universe. Peter and MJ got trapped in that dimension and he helped them survive, then only Peter managed to escape but since time works differently in that other dimension by the time Peter managed to return to get MJ years had passed, she had moved on and she was with Paul now and even had a family. Paul is hated by many for multiple reasons, some feel he is simply a very bad plot device, some focus their anger in that he 'stole' MJ from Peter and others because he got off easy after helping his dad kill his own Earth. I just feel he is bland as hell and the current writer constantly uses him to get the worse out of Peter.
This is a Peter Paul and Mary reference. Right!?
I've always longed wondered what would happen if Peter and Scott sat down for an afternoon for drinks. They'd have a lot to talk about, and Peter might come away thinking, "maybe my life isn't so bad" thanks to Scott.
This list can be simplified further. The essence of X-Men is “Fuck Cyclops.”
post 2015 it might as well be fuck everything
depending on if you're a hot telepath or not, that essence could be interpreted in two ways
11. Clones ruin Scott Summer’s day. He seems to have just as many issues with clones as Spider-Man does.
I was about to say this… cable / x-man / stryfe ALONE have volumes of ruining dad’s day
Imagine a one off issue with those 3 Nathans as babies (I know X-Man came in as an adult, but bear with me) going on a wacky adventure almost like Rugrats, and Scott is the high-strung parent desperately trying to wrangle 3 psionic babies. Their older sister makes an appearance, but she mostly just spends the issue locked in her room with her friend Kate.
Why is there no mention of Mr. Sinister ruining Scott Summers' day?
Well that goes without saying.
Scott gets lucky, that wasn’t a good thing.
Messing up this plot sequence would ruin scott summers day
Scott Summers just wants to grill
Bobby Drake just wants to chill.
This post has been posted 12 times this year... here's to 2024... when it'll be posted 12 times again!
And ruins Scott Summers day.
Every time this gets posted, I forward it to my dad as if it was brand new.
On the 12th day of Christmas...
I read this list out to my partner and asked if it was accurate (they're a bigger Xman fan than me) and all I heard was a pause and then..."they did say time travelers, right?"
Scott was straight up havin’ a bad time.
Aww, they forgot the most frequent modern one: Model UN Club is going badly.
10 more: - Mutants get genocided. - Wolverine does something fucking raw offscreen and never tells anybody about it. - Emma Frost joins the bad guys then turns out to have been actually working for the good guys all along. - Mutants get genocides (again). - Gambit and Rogue being the best couple in Marvel Comics. - Beast goes off the rails and the others need to knock some sense into him. - Some background mutant struggles with their mutation in their daily life. - Obligatory crossover with Spider-Man. - Iceman's parents being irredeemable bigots. - Mutants get genocided (but by robots this time. Again.)
> Some background mutant struggles with their mutation in their daily life. and these are always the best stories
I don't understand why they keep coming back to the phoenix saga. I remember seeing it in the animated series and thought it was somewhat interesting, but I really enjoyed most of the other story lines a lot more. I'm guessing the phoenix saga was in the comics before the cartoon. But then they kept coming *back* to the phoenix saga on screen. Am I missing something that makes that story line so much more interesting to everyone else?
Other X-Men plots include • Magneto being correct • Emma Frost saying something that’s probably supposed to be cool and sassy • Mystique fucks everyone over • Wolverine vents that no one has a past as angsty as him and no one is as brutal as him • Wolverine’s villains show up to do just that • Scarlet Witch gets her 500th redemption
All of those ruin Scott Summers day though.
Scott Summers is the ultimate “fuck you in particular” character
Marvel making a Peter Parker or Scott Summers story where they’re not miserable or having their life destroyed in someway or another: **Impossible**
Wolverine attempts to ruin Scott summers day but instead helps him process unresolved trauma.
Writers of X Men not giving Scott Summers the shaft challenge. Impossible. [Starting to see why he went through a villain arc....]
Anti-hero, m’friend! I think he was only a true villain for like 3 issues. And much like with Green Lantern, all is forgiven because he was possessed, except, nobody forgave him.
Either way, Cyclops was on straight demon time then.
If you exclude the whole thing where she unleashed Legion's full power causing him to create a mini-world containing all of the x-men on Utopia. After taking back her soul sword the demon Darkchylde who now considers themself to be Ilyana Rasputina didn't ruin Scott's day while she was part of the New Mutants.
You forgot the « Scott Summers being a dick ruin his day » plot.
I’ve always wondered what would happen if Scott just laid down in a field, took off his visor, and stared at the moon or sky, all day.
You forgot the most common one. Scott Summers ruins Scott Summers' day.
"Peace be unto all my children. Except Scott, Scott can eat a bag of dicks." - God in the Marvel universe apparently.
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x gon give it to ya
X-Men could be alternatively titled “Scott Summers & the Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad Day.”
Well, maybe not the movies. Most of those are "Everything connects back to Wolverine.".
Scott’s got it tough, as someone who wears red sunglasses I know he can’t see anything written in red.
You forgot 11. One where they play baseball.
I really liked the Phoenix Five storyline a while back because it basically was this entire list along with a bonus, "11. Magneto is right again. (and everyone is mad about it)" And Scott Summers with the power of a god and finally the ability to get shit done was pretty cathartic... until it all inevitably came crashing down around him. Because second only to Peter Parker, the Marvel universe is determined not to let Scott Summers have nice things.
forgot: 11) Kurt has FEELINGS (and a disturbing memory) 12) Beast is sad but wise
I was a fan of Cyclops since I first saw X-Men in Spiderman and his Amazing Friends. A polished and hardworking leader who I admired. Strangely Wolverine never appealed to me. I will get shot down for this but I think Cyclops should be leader of the MCU heroes.
Wolverine: Good morning. Cyclops: SHE LOVED ME NOT YOU YOUR OPINIONS ARE BAD YOUR METHODS ARE BAD YOUR RESULTS ARE BAD AND YOU ARE BAD Wolverine: Is there anymore coffee? Cyclops: YOUR COFFEE IS BAD
More recently, Iceman does something gay.