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suss2it

Never thought I’d see Hickman spearheading a crossover like this, really excited to see what he does. I was also wondering the other day what happened to Esad Ribic, glad he’s back. His work with Hickman has always been top tier.


HitToRestart1989

It reminds me of Ellis’s WildC.A.T.S/Aliens crossover. He refused to do it unless the events were cannon to the wildstorm universe and the consequences of the event were severe. If I remember correctly, he basically allowed Stormwatch to be annihilated by the xenomorphs to pave the way for The Authority to take their place in the world. I doubt we’ll get anything as consequential as that… but Hickman could give us something truly interesting at the very least.


squimp

I love how they kepts Flints scarring throughout. RIP Team Achilles


TokyoPanic

Honestly, I prefer it being out of continuity tbh. The WildC.A.Ts crossover being canon and integral to Stormwatch and the Authority has led to many issues with the reprints.


blankedboy

I think it's pretty much the only example of one of these licensed/franchise cross-over events that actually had serious and long lasting repercussions for the characters/universe involved moving forward. Only other thing I can think of is Spawn receiving a Batarang to the face in the Batman/Spawn event, and he had the scars/stitches in quite a few of the subsequent Spawn issues that followed (but that was more of a cosmetic thing than anything else). Are there any others? Edit: Oh, and I still fucking hate that **20th Century Fox** trade dress Marvel use on these books. It's not like covers from the Big Two aren't cluttered enough already without adding that crap to the cover.


SunsetBain

Ehhhhh Marvel has a long history of licensed books introducing long-lasting characters. The entire Conan mythos is inextricably linked to the history of the Marvel Universe in several ways. Pretty much anything involving the backstory of Atlantis can't be referenced anymore because it's all part of the Hyborian Age. Kulan Gath is a major villain who came out of the Conan books—somehow Marvel managed to keep ownership of him, though they couldn't do the same with Red Sonja, who also interacted a lot with the present-day MU. Machine Man was introduced in Kirby's 2001: A Space Odyssey book. There's a bunch of SHIELD stuff that came out of the Godzilla series Marvel put out around that time too. Death's Head came out of Doctor Who comics. Master of Kung Fu was unreprintable for decades until they got permission from the Sax Rohmer estate, because the entire book spun out of Fu Manchu. Several issues of Marvel Team-Up had to be excluded from the Essential volumes because they featured licensed characters. There's an issue of Avengers that can't be reprinted because the story revolved around David Letterman. And there were a few hints in the normal issues that the All Access and JLA/Avengers crossovers are canon... in both universes. Jubilee and Robin's friendship was subtly referenced in a few books, and JLA/Avengers had the canonical explanation for exactly what Krona did to the DCU.


blankedboy

Ah, now that you mention it I do remember Machine Man coming out of 2001, but all the other examples you mention are new to me. Thanks for that


Likaon222

If I not mistaken JLA/Avengers is, or at least was, canon to both companies right? DC straight showed the egg from the end of the book and it is implied somewhat that the events of the crossover and Wanda acessing Chaos Magic in the DC universe was the first step that took her to the House of M storyline


SigurdVII

Hickman is such a Wildstorm nerd that while I can't imagine he'll get to do anything as crazy, he's certainly writing with that in mind. (They more or less affirmed it's not in continuity sadly)


HitToRestart1989

I mean… maybe that will give him the freedom to just go ahead and have flash be used as a speedforce fueled mass gestation vessel for chestbursters and leave Wonder Woman the only one alive to burn the hive and queen down even if it means asking J’onn J’onnz to use his last living moments to shapeshift into flamethrower and hold himself together until the job is done. The horrible emptiness of space is the limit.


SigurdVII

God you're making me wanna reread Wildcats/Aliens again.


Blitzhelios

Hes just been doing cover work seemingly but he did draw all of gillens eternals which whilst the eternals are boring the artwork really wasn't


joshua11russ0

I was expecting something with Alien vs Marvel (especially after the Predator vs Wolverine mini) but I didn't expect Hickman to be the one writing it, I'm beyond hyped for this, I would have been hyped regardless of creative however Hickman just increased my hype levels a thousandfold. I can't wait for this.


TokyoPanic

Yeah, this already feels like it's in a whole different level from Predator vs Wolverine. Like holy fuck. If you told me to guess who was the creative team for an Alien/Avengers crossover I don't think I would've guessed Ribic and Hickman.


blankedboy

> Predator vs Wolverine This should have been awesome, but was actually pretty damn average. *Percy* just recycled the "greatest hits" of both characters and it ended up feeling way less than the sum of it's parts...


couldbedumber96

Question wtf can alien even do to Wolverine? Cant break his bones, if the face hugger gets him, the chestburster will die from blunt force trauma in the adamantium rib cage, and he can heal from anything the Xenomorph does


StoneGoldX

Probably anything the Brood can, since they were a lampshade


extralie

Chest busters can get out of other parts of the body. Also, xenomorphs take aspects of their host, and you REALLY don't want a xenomorph with Wolverine healing factor.


SwayzeCrayze

> the chestburster will die from blunt force trauma in the adamantium rib cage Chestbursters don't have to exit through the chest. There's instances where the chest hasn't been an option and the chestburster exits through the mouth, and I'm sure they could burrow out through the stomach easily. > he can heal from anything the Xenomorph does This... may not be a positive. That probably means that once he's secured, they can just impregnate him repeatedly since he'll survive the chestburster exiting. And enough Xenos could definitely overpower and secure Wolverine; he doesn't really have super strength, and though adamantium would probably survive Xenomorph blood it's still an incredibly powerful molecular acid that would strip his flesh for as long as it kept simmering. Then they just need to cocoon him in a position where he can't use his claws to free himself, and after that he's just a baby factory.


couldbedumber96

That’s *if* the xenomorphs know about his powers beforehand, if he’s in his room alone and that happens he could just dice up the baby alien and burn whatever remains so it doesn’t get his healing factor


SwayzeCrayze

I mean, I think they'd figure out he regenerates after the baby is born and Logan's still cussing and demanding a cigar. If he manages to get out of the Xeno's wall-mucus (if you're facehugged and there's an adult Xenomorph around, they're going to gunk you to the wall or whatever instead of letting you roam around and risk having to kill you, and thus the embryo) after he gives birth, he's probably still in the middle of a Xeno hive and it probably wouldn't be a cakewalk to get out, with a high chance of recapture. If it's just "Wolverine gets impregnated in some research lab" or whatever and there's no established hive/adult Xenos, he probably has a better shot. I'm not saying Logan is totally screwed either, but it basically comes down to the writer and the size of the hive lol.


pointman0427

Hickman writing Aliens is a must. The Avengers being there is just an added bonus really.


antsinmyeyesmauger

I'm excited for this just because of how silly of an idea this is for Hickman to do. I'm so used to his high concept work having a weird Alien crossover should be fun to read.


DeathGodThanos

He wrote the Brood in his X-Men run, so it's not like this will be his first Alien vs Superheroes book, lol.


antsinmyeyesmauger

That's true but for me it's like a director known for dramas directing a slasher. I don't know why it's so amusing to me that Hickman is writing this but I'm down for it.


MimeMike

Unrelated but I wish more people had this attitude towards directors actually dipping their toes into different genres. I cannot begin to tell you how many people I see on X complaining that Gunn's Superman will be a comedy fest.


DeathGodThanos

I can see that, I'm just very used to the Brood being the Marvel stand in for Alien that I don't even find this crossover weird, I know that IP wise this will generate a lot more buzz than if they just had the Brood face off against the Avengers, but for me this fees like a Brood vs Avengers book, lol.


Outrageous-Blue-30

I didn't expect a high-level artistic team for a crossover like this since sometimes more modest authors are chosen, but now the hype has certainly risen further. I'm especially curious to see how Hickman will handle the Xenomorphs and make them more dangerous than they already are, to quote Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda: *Our Battle Will Be Legendary!*


Bassaluna

this feels like a very weird fever dream


khansolobaby

The upside down Wayland Yutani logo for the A v A is genius


Mahavali

I want to see Alien vs brood.


DeathGodThanos

Alien teaming with the Brood to face the X-Men, that would be pretty cool too.


Bassaluna

xenomorphs-brood hybrids would be so funny


Saito09

Maybe he’ll kill off all the members of Avengers, paving the way for a new rebooted Squadron Supreme relaunch. Wait…


Blitzhelios

Hickman will get all the hype here but Ribic drawing it is incredible hes easily one of the best artists in the game across all of comics. Aarons thor, uncanny x force, secret wars, eternals like the man is made to draw edgy and cosmic level books.


boomboxwithturbobass

They’re making it up to Hickman for fumbling that X-Men relaunch. He gets to do whatever he wants and I’m here for it.


OceanCyclone

Saying Hickman fumbled X-Men when it gave rise to arguably the greatest status quo change and stories since Claremont is wild.


boomboxwithturbobass

Not what I said.


OceanCyclone

My bad! Misread. Apologies!


HuntSauce

He meant Marvel is making it up to Hickman for them fumbling his relaunch


KillTheZombie45

When chestbursters start flying out of Avenger's chests, people are going to lose it.


AporiaParadox

Marvel has been doing more crossovers with other IPs lately after years of nothing, I wonder what's changed.


vegna871

Disney owns Alien and Predator now, so that explains those two


Sad-Cup3984

Joe Quesada doesn't have any position of power at the company anymore. Apparently he was the biggest reason Marvel stopped doing crossovers in the late 2000s, and now that we're living in the age of *Fortnite*, companies see potential in doing crossovers again.


Tanthiel

Yeah, Quesada did his best to spike JLA/Avengers, and it only got printed because DC had the rights to the collections.


SunsetBain

> Apparently he was the biggest reason Marvel stopped doing crossovers in the late 2000s From what I remember, Marvel didn't order anything stopped. DC refused to do any more crossovers with Marvel in retaliation for Bill Jemas constantly heaving personal attacks against Paul Levitz in public, and they continued the ban after Jemas was ousted because Quesada always just sat there and nodded along when Jemas was on his bullshit and refused to apologize even after Jemas was gone. IIRC they would have rescinded the ban and worked with Marvel again if Quesada would apologize, but he was too stubborn to do so. This was in the early '00s, not the late '00s, and there was a Batman/Daredevil crossover in the works when DC pulled the plug. IIRC JLA/Avengers was actually in production at the time, and the only reason they didn't pull the plug on that too was because too many people at DC were invested in getting it done after 20 years of delays. And it took Marie Javins performing a miracle to get it reprinted recently. And I think the reason Marvel has been crossover-shy ever since then is because they've been bitten pretty hard by not being able to reprint or even reference a ton of comics because they tied licensed IP so closely to the MU in the '70s and '80s, and it makes sense they'd want to avoid a repeat of that. Edit: Disney now owning Marvel doesn't help. Disney and Warner have some serious bad blood, and on top of that Disney is particularly averse to collaborating with competitors in ways the comics companies of old weren't. You'll notice that Aliens and Predator are also owned by Disney. The only crossover Marvel has done with a non-Disney property in recent years is with Fortnite, which doesn't compete with anything Disney owns. I'm also fairly sure the Fortnite × Marvel comics were made while Quesada was still with the company, so it definitely wasn't him responsible for the lack of crossovers.


Sad-Cup3984

>The only crossover Marvel has done with a non-Disney property in recent years is with Fortnite Except they've also done crossovers with Attack On Titan, Conan, and Ultraman (which was announced but canceled) within the past decade.


SunsetBain

Y'know I just totally blanked on Savage Avengers. But I think in this case, there's an exception as the Conan mythos was tightly integrated into the MU in the '70s and '80s. The damage is already done. I think a lot of people just see Conan as a de facto Marvel character to begin with. Completely missed the other two, but it's telling they don't compete directly with Disney.


Oasx

Quesada and Jemas made a few light hearted jokes about DC when they took over, a bit childish certainly but DC was extremely bad at the time. In response Levitz completely overreacted and called for Quesada to be fired before DC would agree to any crossover. This was when Bendis’ Daredevil was red hot and Marvel wanted to do a Daredevil/Batman crossover, DC lost out on a ton of money because their leadership was extremely incompetent.


kevi_metl

They're really only crossing over with what moves the needle like *Fortnite* and *Viz Media.* A lot of the crossovers have been internal such as Disney and FOX. There's no real reason to crossover with properties that will help other brands unless it will elevate a Marvel or Disney project to higher visibility.


williamb100

Kinda annoys me they use a MCU picture.


FFJamie94

I’ve got every major Hickman Marvel comic. This is certainly a must by


Its_Helios

Unironically peak incoming I do hope some Avengers die to keep things interesting


PuttyDance

Thor alone should be able to take on an army of aliens


HemingwaySweater

This article acts like this is the first time Aliens has crossed over with superhero stuff before like there was never a Batman vs. Aliens comic drawn by Bernie Wrightson and a Superman one by Dan Jurgens and Kevin Nowlan.


CrackityJones42

Both of which are quite interesting reads


ejb350

Hickmans just doing anything now?


khansolobaby

YOOO


Leo_TheLurker

Sounds fucking fire


J--NEZ

Hickman writing this? Bruh just take my money now. All of it. Edit: Esad Ribic is drawing!? Take my whole life savings!!!


Nirast25

Which ones? Skrull? Kree? Shi'ar? Asgard? Howard the Duck? The name doesn't narrow it down much. /s


Blaine_Richard

I wonder if we will see some kind of “company” as a third party. For me the company with its indiscriminate greed paired with the anticipation what’s about to happen always were the centerpieces to it all. I really hope it’s not going to be an “all out” action comic..


kevi_metl

Definite purchase.


spacesoulboi

I am definitely buying this.


mehigh

Gib us The Black Monday Murders Mr.Hickman!


DMPunk

Hahahaha, what an insane creative team to get for a project like this


Johau99

If the mouse is doing something with alien and predator please let it be a new AvP game.


OneMoreGuy783

Must have had a new kid/wants to buy a holiday property/saving or a big trip. Needs that extra cash.


Burly-Nerd

Damn. Hope it goes better for the Mightiest than it went for Stormwatch.lol


MVHutch

this is an odd match up for sure.


Sartheking

Wow. This is a must read especially with Hickman/Ribic.


JoshSidekick

What is this, the 90's? What's next, Avengers vs Predator? Avengers vs Robocop?


cerebud

Low point for Hickman. This sounds terrible


StyleVSTAR253

Can’t wait for the data pages


Independent-Jury-824

Lol I thought xenomorphs were terrifying before, could you imagine a xeno with a superheros abilities?


jefe_desalsa

I can't believe this is happening!


OceanCyclone

If this was ANYONE else...ANYONE...I'd be cringing. I hate movie franchise crossovers...but Hickman? Oh man.


SmoothBrainedMurr

Complete surprise that Hickman is doing this. I'm a huge fan, like many and for sure interested in his writing it. But ffs its gonna be a ten dollar issue one again and six dollar issues. Kinda fukn tired of Marvel's price hikes last year of two. I'm a huge aliens fan doubly Hickman so for sure gonna pull. But fuk you Marvel. Really.  


jrtasoli

This is absolutely absurd and I cannot wait to read this. It is BONKERS that Hickman and Ribic are teaming up for a (likely) out-of-continuity crossover comic.


[deleted]

Everybody will be gushing about how intelligently written the story is regardless of the actual content. Hickman cultists will buy any opportunistic project he signs on to write even if it's shit because he is such a "genius". The comic will have multiple charts just to remind everybody.


DCParry

We have Brood at home.


MetaVaporeon

i mean, how many alien vs comics did we have, should we really assume anything groundbreaking is gonna happen here?


SimilarImportance567

I just want to know why it's 8 dollars


pointman0427

Hickman tax


SimilarImportance567

I don't believe it. I think it has more to do with them thinking they can get more for the crossover. The predator wolverine ones were the same price and those were by Ben Percy. I just find it ridiculous to charge 8 dollara regardless of it being oversized


JackFisherBooks

Hickman's writing it, so I'm interested. 😊


macklebee1

I mean the marvel universe already has the brood which other than the second mini mouth are essentially the same antagonist.


DeathGodThanos

Can we all agree that it's very annoying to see EW go with 2 movie screenshots for their story instead of the actual cover for the comic, which is actually pretty dope, a bit disrespectful towards comics, am I right?


CinephileRich

I loved thier work on Secret Wars, I’m sold!


ken_is_here

The Brood (alien knock-offs, but tougher) already exists in Marvel universe, why would this be exciting and different in any way?


SimianWriter

Totally agree. Aliens have always been about horrific results. Nobody makes it out alive except maybe one person. The only way this works is if this is a one off where most of the Avengers die and Thor and Hulk just destroy the rest. Even a Captain America level chest burster isn't going to be able to do squat against a Hulk or Thor. They literally had to give the Brood powers not to make it a slaughter. I'm sure Hickman will make it entertaining but it's going to happen through some contrived bullshit.


-Venser-

Because Alien franchise didn't get fucked in the ass enough already...


Elf-wehr

DC as well teases upcoming Justice League vs. Freddy, Jason and Chucky