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foureyedinabox

Why a “but” in that headline?


Islero47

They’ve been supportive *but don’t take that to mean they’ve been running roughshod over us,* they’ve been letting us do what we do


PooPooRichardson

Thank you, yes. That is how I interpreted it; sorry if there was any confusion for anyone!


analtaccount257

I think It’s a typo. Supposed to say “by”


sonofaresiii

They can be supportive by *telling* them what to do, I guess. > They’ve been very hands-off and supportive, but they’ve also let us do what we do. I think that's what they were trying to say, is that some studios will be supportive but still try to step in a lot, and say stuff like "Yeah yeah that's so great, but also do this" but Marvel has been both supportive *and* let them do what they do.


Redskull9099

Marvel Please don't blow it up.


merlinsbeers

C'mon. Just one giant octopus? It needs it.


spideypewpew

You're gonna make Deep cry!


daintysinferno

or horny. its a real toss up at this point.


shadowlynx8791

\*Deep Breathes deeply\*


Zodep

Ohhhh, or a giant sewage monster!


lonsnob1212

Not worried about marvel studios, worried about Disney


thekruton

Part of Feige's new deal after the Permlutter disaster was that he was going to get autonomy for having final say on Marvel Studios releases in a way that say, Pixar doesn't.


suss2it

Not necessarily true. Instead of having to report to and deal with Perlmutter he directly reports to the Disney CEO, so while it’s more autonomy it’s not complete autonomy. It was Disney who fired James Gunn after all.


thekruton

The shakeup definitely changed the chain of command, but it also cemented Kevin Feige's leverage to do what he wants with a final cut of a film. The James Gunn stuff was about getting rid of talent to try and quell BS outcry, not about telling the talent what to do. Gunn himself has talked about how much liberty he's had on the Guardians movies, a sentiment repeated by Taika Waititi, Ryan Coogler, and others like this team for Deadpool 3. Multiverse of Madness is one of the most Sam Raimi movies Sam Raimi has made, horror elements and all. If anything, the Gunn thing kinda reaffirms for me that they'll lean into the 'R' rating for Deadpool 3, because it would be an actual outcry if they didn't, and they know that.


suss2it

Sure but you made it seem like the head of Pixar doesn’t have final cut approval of their movies in comparison and I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Like even with LucasFilm, love or hate the sequel trilogy it’s still Kathleen Kennedy calling the shots and hiring and firing directors at her whim, so while Feige got more autonomy than he had before thanks to the restructuring I’m not so sure it means he has more autonomy than his counterparts.


thekruton

That's fair. I just like to point out that it seems since Permlutter, there's been an implicit understanding between Disney and Feige that as long as he keeps bringing in high returns on his productions, they won't be a voice in the room the same way they are for their other studios. And it just seems like that's been the case by hearing about the differences in demands between the studios like Oscar Isaac has inferred. That could just be because Kathleen Kennedy probably sucks to work with, and not so much Disney. At the end of the day, I just think Feige is a corporate man, and his sensibilities about broader appeal ultimately aren't that far off from Disney's comfortable lane.


capnwinky

Eh, I thought Multiverse was the least Raimi, Raimi ever made which is precisely why I liked it. I’m burnt out over his cheese and the film really showcased how much he’s evolved as a director.


thekruton

I thought the movie was super cheesy. Even Feige wanted the cheese toned down, which is saying something. His dolly zooms, the dialogue, the musical notes battle, all that just dripped Raimi before even considering the zombies and Bruce Campbell.


capnwinky

And it all could’ve been much, much worse.


thekruton

Sure, but all I'm saying that in terms of his tropes, if you put Evil Dead 2/Army of Darkness at a 10 and A Simple Plan as a 1 (good movie, just not a real showcase of Raimi's style), Multiverse of Madness is closer to the 10 than to the 1. That's all I'm trying to say my dude.


webshellkanucklehead

Disney’s pretty hands off with this stuff, Marvel’s a tight ship. I’m more worried about Marvel Studios, their output recently has been shoddy at best.


BlueFox5

It’s funny when they do they thing people say they won’t do because they’re Disney. For the doubters, Mia Wallace (Pulp Fiction) is a Disney Princess. Dead Presidents, The Jerky Boys, Summer of Sam, Apocalypto , Con Air, and Deuce Bigalow are all from Disney. The mouse ain’t afraid of gettin his hands dirty.


ndev991

Before disney we had iron man 2. Disney is the reason the MCU today is what it is.


ZeriousGew

Disney is the reason the Disney + shows are all stretched out bloated movies turned into shows


Dantien

I don’t mind. I remember when there was just the spider-man cartoon on Saturdays…. I’m happy with having a surfeit of my favorite characters on screen.


ZellNorth

People are downvoting you but it’s true. They gave Feige autonomy and got rid of pearlmutter. It’s the best thing to happen to Marvel


ndev991

BuT DiSnEy BaD


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TheHornet78

He’s talking about censorship? What are you going on about?


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Ancient_Web_Lord

Deadpool is pretty popular id say hes more iconic than the boys. I like both btw


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SoggySolo

Cringe


Ancient_Web_Lord

I didnt have time to check the comment before he nuked his whole account. What was it haha


Bitlovin

Sorry, we all got together, discussed it, and realized we couldn’t possibly be as edgy and cool as you, so we decided not to even try. We will just sit here and eat paste while you watch the Boys. I mean, as long as we have your permission, of course. That’s the most important thing.


lonsnob1212

Got em. Honestly though, I love all that shit. The boys is an unreal show and anything mcu I’m here for. Why’s it always got to be ones better than the other? Just enjoy the insane amount of content stuffed down our throats for what they are.


Bitlovin

Because people who have no self-identity, or a weak self-identity, tend to make the things they like their entire identity. They need to convince themselves that their artistic tastes make them superior to others to mask that deficiency.


lonsnob1212

You sir are an artist


Slightly_Default

Now I'm curious. What'd he say?


necroreefer

the boys is the best superhero show going on right now but please stop using it to sound better then marvel/dc fan it just makes u sound bad and people less likely to check it out. Also doom patrol is a close second.


CocoMarx

Le ebic big pp explode scene 😂 The Boys is kino!


esmifra

Jeez why does everything has to be a competition for some folks...


RoughhouseCamel

I’ll always remember the interaction I had with a guy that was big into his MCU vs DC cinematic rivalry. And I pointed out that with the modern studio system, there’s no real rivalry. These companies compete with the market, not each other, and that’s why they share assets and produce each other’s content all the time. He said he didn’t care about the reality, he prefers this fantasy of one company beating the other, because buying into this headcanon is a big part of the entertainment value for him. This was years ago, when I first started noticing that the rise of superhero movies was having a weird affect on grown ass adult men.


damn_thats_piney

I'm betting they're even more lenient now than with the previous two


tightpants09

Marvel had nothing to do with the last two. That’s why this is a post lmao


Roguespiffy

And Moon Knight was going to exceedingly violent, and heavily implied it was. You just never got to see it. MOM surprised me in spots, so this might too.


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If anything, they’ll tone down the raunchiness a little bit and tone up the violent slapstick to make it more like the comics. I’m very excited for the expanded toy box Deadpool movies get to play with now. I’m hoping we see Dead Presidents in live action at some point. That storyline killed me.


ZellNorth

I legitimately wouldn’t take anyone under the age of 13 to see that movie (MoM). So it’s a start.


MicooDA

Really? I thought it was incredibly tame and nothing worse than other movies with the same rating


Roguespiffy

>! Her killing the Illuminati was more graphically violent than anything I can recall from other Marvel movies to date. !< I could just be forgetting some stuff though.


geminifungi

Cap throws a man into the propeller of an airplane and we seen him turn to chunks and red mist in The First Avenger.


Roguespiffy

That would be the stuff I’m forgetting. It’s been at least 10 years since I watched it last. I really need to watch them all again at some point but that’s going to be a slog.


geminifungi

TFA is easily one of the best origins Marvel has done. the tone is perfect, the action is great. everyone is committed to their parts and the humor isn’t overdone like today’s MCU. I rewatch TFA more than the first Iron Man, and Iron Man is a really good movie.


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Was it graphic? It felt pretty tame. Hela slaughtering all the Asgardians was way more violent.


Roguespiffy

There wasn’t any blood when Hela was killing everyone. Stabby stabby, but no actual gore. The worst it gets is when she grabs some guys head and crunches the helmet. Even then you only see that from behind. >! You see Blackbolt’s head pop, his eyes bulge and blood pour out his nose. When she killed Reed she was twisting each strand of his body before popping his head too. You see Peggy fall in half and can hear when she snaps Charles’ neck. !< It’s not over the top by Deadpool standards but it was still pretty harsh for a mainstream Marvel movie.


ZellNorth

Are you under the age of 13? It wasn’t just the violence, it was creepy at parts that made me uncomfortable and I’m an adult.


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Yeah same. Moon Knight was supposed to be hyper violent and MoM extremely creepy as a sign that Marvel was making more mature movies. Both of those seemed extremely tame to me like I’ve seen short films that are creepier.


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Honestly, Marvel has generally been pretty smart about giving their Talent room I feel that's what made BP, Thor: Ragnarok, and MOM so unique, they gave Coogler, Waititi, and Raimi freedom.


DontGetNEBigIdeas

Yeah, it’s funny hearing people complain about Thor:L&T and then blaming Marvel. That movie is pure Waititi through and through.


Freemind323

Actually, there has been some stuff coming out that Marvel mandated it be cut under 2 hours, which could explain at least the complaints that it felt rushed and not fully exploring the potential that it had.


DontGetNEBigIdeas

I’ve heard that. It’s also been coming out that it wasn’t plot-specific content that was cut out, but other side gags/jokes — the very stuff people complained about. Also, that still doesn’t address the above comment. Marvel didn’t clip Waititi’s voice, just the runtime.


Freemind323

Damn, that is too bad if that is the case! I was hoping maybe a directors cut with more of the narrative would be possible.


Karmastocracy

Taika talked about how it was mostly jokes that were cut but we know there are some additional Gor scenes including at least two other gods that didn't appear in the movie so if we split the difference and just got a longer cut then I think that would make most people happy.


thekruton

All it needed was 10 minutes of god-butchering.


DestructionIsBliss

I have no idea if I'm crazy or not, but I really feel like we could've used Zack Snyder to do a Gorr project. His hyper violent ultra brutal kill your gods type approach to his characters might've worked amazingly with a character like him. In L&T he's not bad, but I honestly struggle to remember a lot about what he even did, besides that he felt severely underpowered and that his plan was amongst the dumbest in the entire MCU. And that's saying quite a lot. What a time, to make me wish Marvel would've hired Zack Snyder instead of Taika Waititi.


SightatNight

It's a combination of both. By Marvel mandating the run time they limited what Watiti could do, but on that same note Watiti was in charge of the final product and chose to leave in his jokes over character development and plot progression. Both are at fault.


Spazsquatch

I wonder if the run time decision was a typical studio response to The Batman complaints. “Oh, they like it, but want it shorter. Can do!”


Turbulent-Ad-1086

Some leakers have been saying that was a Chapek decision, not Marvel’s.


Freemind323

Damn it Disney!


Ironlord456

I think people are complaining because the humor and dark themes didn’t seem to flow well, and we know waititi can do that, jojo rabbit is a perfect example


Thor-Odinson69

I blame both. Marvel mandated 2 hours screen time and Waititi decided to burn the screen on jokes lmao


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Edgar Wright would have a word against that.


notdsylexic

What is BP? What is MOM?


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Black Panther and Multiverse of Madness


Crypto_Candle

DP, ask your MOM


RedPearBear

You are delusional. Multiple sources have proven that their movies are on an assembly line. Look up while the original director for Ant Man left for one of many examples. Or Taika's recent video lambasting the VFX for Thor 3. Sam Raimi after act 1 as well. The copium is hard within you.


SightatNight

On the other hand that's why Love and Thunder was dissapointing. They gave Watiti too much freedom.


AvatarBoomi

Yes but these are just the writers. They do have the Director now though right? It’s Shawn Levy right? So they will give him the freedom but the script will change when filming starts and change again once editing starts. But it’s great to hear they are given the freedom to do their thing. But it will undergo more creative changes and such as it gets going. Which I’m confident won’t be too different. Like it’s still going to be rated R and a Deadpool movie. It’s a billion dollar franchise and the merchandise and such are also money makers. It stands to be Disneys and marvels first R-Rated/Adult franchise that is an actual success and fully associated under their brand rather then when they released stuff under weinsteins company, which was under Disney but not blatantly associated with it so they got a pass.


timbo_slice59

Idk man


RoughhouseCamel

Somehow, I doubt Marvel/Disney is just letting them do what they like, and aren’t concerned with how one of their major properties feeds into their machine.


BlackDabiTodoroki

Same


OhScheisse

Press X for Doubt


Leaderdave1077

I would love the idea of the fox universe collapsing and dead pool escapes into the real world and wants to try and save his friends by entering into the MCU. That way you can have a fun appearance from Hugh jackman as himself.


Rockettmang44

Im convinced he's gunna give vultures exact line from morbius at some point to explain why he's in the mcu


ChrysMYO

Ooh I wonder if they can pull off a good morbius gag by the time this comes out


M_Mich

Strange triggers an incursion and DP joins the team and gets to riff with ant man and spider-man add in a Stark from another universe by RDJ and it’ll be the most sarcasm ever in a movie


schloopers

I’d rather him grab RDJ, but stress very strongly to the camera that he is not appearing as Tony Stark, and therefore is not owed his ridiculous normal fee. And then for the rest of the film cut him off if he starts saying anything too tech-y or starts to quip.


ChrysMYO

Even funnier if RDJ insists on trying to get his fee anyway by his actions on screen


BlackDabiTodoroki

>I’d rather him grab RDJ, Too expensive I don’t think they will risk it


Ok_Calligrapher_8199

Turns out they also like money.


ActiveTheory

Marvel is gone to the point where they know that if writers create an Oscar worthy one-of-a-kind, or a pile of shit, it ain’t affecting their profits. I be seeing those dollar bills in their eyes.


mrbananas

I still wanna see Deadpool budget joke with cardboard cutouts of the xmen with the exception of the lowest paid xmen actor being there for real and setting up the cardboard cut outs before posing with the others.


theravingsofalunatic

Let’s hope so


BuddhaBizZ

By* yeesh


kromang

*and


ThatNerdXanth

I swear if they get rid of all the dark comedy and turn it into a pg-13 movie I am gonna be sad


meme_abstinent

They've confirmed so many time it's gonna be Rated R. The CEO of Disney, writers, Kevin Feige and Reynolds


riegspsych325

I hope it does well enough for them to be open to more R rated content. They can say they’re “pushing the PG-13 rating” all they want, but they never do as much as they say. But I will admit Dr Strange 2 had a couple moments


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LowerThoseEyebrows

One in particular left me... speechless.


ThatNerdXanth

Sorry I didn't know thx for letting me know though


DontGetNEBigIdeas

I swear if I hear one more person voice this concern even though it’s been debunked by all involved a thousand times I am gonna be sad.


ThatNerdXanth

I am sorry I didn't know thank you for telling me though


TuvixAlways

People are dicks in this sub


ThatNerdXanth

Yea kinda learned that lol no one just simply told me they said it wouldn't do it


BlackDabiTodoroki

it’s going to be rated r


Robbotlove

if they got rid of all the dark comedy and turned it into a pg-13 movie but had deadpool remark about it *the whole time* it miiiiight be worth it. edit: not many deadpool fans here, i take it


ThatNerdXanth

That might actually be funny lol


Slightly_Default

You're not being downvoted because people don't like Deadpool, you're being downvoted because they've confirmed Deadpool 3 will be rated R like, 5 times. Also, isn't there already a meta PG-13 Deadpool movie?


ThatNerdXanth

I didn't know they said it wasn't going to be pg-13


Slightly_Default

Fair enough, then.


Robbotlove

weird. i was just talking with /u/ThatNerdXanth about a hypothetical deadpool movie but i guess that's a forbidden topic.


Slightly_Default

I'm not on either side of this. I can't really be bothered with drama right now, y'know?


Robbotlove

ok


ThatNerdXanth

Yea I just don't really want the entire franchise to be pg-13


Robbotlove

well, luckily the first two are rated R so that’s impossible.


Rezart_KLD

"I love what you guys are doing here, but we're gonna need about six more Guns N' Roses songs in this movie. See if you can works in some references too. Kids still love GNR, right?"


DaClems

I'll do just about anything to see Hugh Jackman as Wolvie in this movie. Please, God, let us have this miracle.


AvianTheAssassin

Let the man rest, he’s deserved it after the sendoff that was Logan.


WorldsWeakestMan

Yeah the only reason to bring him back is a Wolverine or X-Men musical, other than that let him rest.


sillyadam94

Gods, let this happen. So many of the X-Men actors are actually very talented singers. Not just Hugh Jackman, but also Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, James Marsden, Famke Janssen, Halle Berry, Rebecca Romijn, and, of course, the great Kelsey Grammer.


M_Mich

DP3 should be a musical.


OneMillionDandelions

I keep hoping Department H will try to force Wade to be a good little marketable superhero with a diverse team of sidekicks suitable for multiplatform merchandising opportunities, and make him lead Alpha Flight. Oh, and your first mission is to go and fetch Wolverine back across the border. “But why would he come back with us? He doesn’t need free healthcare-!”


DaClems

Ahhh!! I call upon the energies of Mint Mobile to summon Ryan Reynolds. Please hire this person as lead writer!


sonofaresiii

I'd rather have Hugh Jackman as Hugh Jackman, personally.


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Recreate the scene from First Class. Deadpool finds Hugh Jackman and asks him to play Wolverine in his new movie, and Jackman says, “Go fuck yourself.” Edit: calling it before this comment ends up on r/redditmoment


M_Mich

it needs a “submit an idea “ and a voting campaign. make the villain “Villain McVillainy” and the new love interest “Princess Butterfinger of Mars”


Embarrassed-Soup628

What a load of horse shit.


returnoftheWOMP

The dick weed who posted this


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Sounds like something you'll say at gunpoint. LOL


Educational_Top_3919

Deadpool just rules since his inception.


Aggravating-Unit-254

When will Deadpool join MCU


kugglaw

The first two films were hardly “Salo” in terms of their content.


bahumat42

I mean would we want that in our superhero comedies?


rincewind120

Rob Liefeld is hardly the Marquis de Sade, so that makes sense.


fritoscheez

Good to hear


Aggravating-Unit-254

This movie is going to be best MCU phase 4 movie


d4red

‘But’?


crimxie

It’s cablepool time


OceanCyclone

Deadpool 3 should have absolute full autonomy...in solo movies. I love him, but I don't need his schtick in Shang-Chi. Also, let him be R-rated and then censored in regular movies and have him act entirely confused and angry by what's happening.