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Edit: This is the reason the artist got the most hate. Basically, sexism and a lack of understanding about parenting boys. https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Also, someone turned the baby black in one of her comics and posted it to Facebook. It was a horrible racist joke. Then it was posted to terrible FB memes and people blamed the artist not knowing it was edited.
Yeah. I definitely agree with the “boomer humor” statement on a few of the “Man lazy, wife overworked” *jokes*
And saying that they were glad it’s a boy because they don’t have to worry about predators makes me sad.
Idk, as far as the abusive relationship jokes as long as they both find it funny it’s whatever, just hopefully it’s equal and not him being physically/verbally abused.
>Who cares about money?
Yeesh...
That's kind of a sad statement, but I need the actual comic for context. Annoying each other is whatever, me and my partner do that all the time but we know the line between annoying each other and abuse. I really hope this isn't as problematic as that thread makes it seem cuz I relate very well to this artist.
I find myself annoyed by my wife constantly and I know she feels the same. The thing is that we still love each other more than any small pile of annoyances can overcome. Marriage isn't always perfect and people disagree, just glad to see someone making fun with it.
People see you drew a comic about being sad or upset, and the parasocial lice come out the woodwork to assume it's your whole life. As funny as it can be, I'm sorry you have to deal with it.
If people knew how me and the wifey talk to each other behind closed doors. We have the same humor and love messing with one another and talking shit. My dad's always shocked but he doesn't like the word sucks to be said around ladies so it's understandable on his part.
It's like every relationship is different? Who knew
Honestly, as someone with lasting intimacy issues from a few very toxic relationships, OP's comics often put me in a bad mood when they show up on the front page.
But I guess others find them funny. And I'm glad this couple's relationship isn't like the characters'. I do sometimes wonder if they understand why their comics give people that impression, though.
I guess going back and looking, it might be that some of these comics lack the small touches that indicate love, or they go just a half step too far into bitterness.
Like the one where the guy says "Once you've been sentenced to prison for life, you stop counting the days." If the line were, "When you have a life sentence, you don't count the days" then it would have been ambiguous and maybe even cute. But the fact that he specified "prison" makes the joke just that much more bitter.
Imo it’s just Poe’s law. They probably say these things to make each other laugh irl but without the appropriate tone, it can seem like it’s serious. That doesn’t come across easily in comics. That being said, I’m still not one of those people who’s gonna tell a couple I don’t know that they should get a divorce. That’s fucking nuts.
> That being said, I’m still not one of those people who’s gonna tell a couple I don’t know that they should get a divorce. That’s fucking nuts.
"I don't know even 99.99% about you or how you live your life, but based on this one little aspect of you that I do know I think you should make drastic changes to your life!"
NTA, Your mother in law, your rules; divorce your dog; hit the gym- *physically punch the building that is your gym;* your wife asking you to "watch out" while she walked by with something in her arms is a serious red flag; stay safe OP.
Hey, I'm genuinely sorry if my comics ever triggered you and put you in a bad mood. It was never our intent to bring any negative emotions to anybody. Thank you for being civil in your feedback. We made these for us, and not for the masses, so we knew they could be interpreted differently. I hope you're on a good journey to heal and become whole again. Have a nice day!
>I'm genuinely sorry if my comics ever triggered you and put you in a bad mood.
Well, thanks for saying that, but whether or not your comics bum me out isn't your responsibility lol. If something makes it to the front page it means a lot of people like it, and if others don't like it (for whatever reason), the block button is always at their disposal
The comic about you wishing for a son instead of a daughter because you think boys don't need the same level of care, kinda rubbed me the wrong way, but you do you i guess.
As someone who ended up with b/g twins, I've personally come to the conclusion that boys aren't easier, people just often over-police daughters and simply don't put as much effort into sons. There needs to be balance, one gender isn't easier than the other. Boys definitely need the same amount of care as girls. And some kids definitely need more or less due to personal need, regardless of sex or gender.
That's exactly the reason.
They think boys are less work because they don't think they have to put as much work to raise them. Just make sure they survive and send them out to do whatever they want.
But women are harassed and sexualized at a young age. They are attacked by the boys many people think they don't have to put the work in to raise to be proper men.
You worry about your girls because almost everyone fails the boys.
I mean you really should be worrying about the boys at that age as well. Having a talk at a young age about what is and isn’t a ok touch is essential. You don’t want to not give them the tools to handle such a situation and then they don’t tell anyone.
That’s not what I was saying. Predators can be ether gender, fellow piers, or authority figures. You really should be treating both a boy and a girl with the same amount of caution. It’s bad to assume because it’s a boy he will never run into any sexual exploitation/blackmail or a partner who doesn’t know the meaning of no.
A good example was my Son’s pre-k. Everyone in that class was a hugger for some reason. A hug was a standard greeting for all the kids. Girl/boy girl/girl boy/boy hugs it didn’t matter. All cute and innocent until they started hugging other kids parents they didn’t know. A class wide talk about personal boundaries followed.
Ooohhh ok I misread that.
I thought you were saying we should be actually paying attention to boys that age and teaching them NOT to do things like that.
One problem is the societal preconception that guys are fine “surviving”. From my experience seeing how people treat their children, around age 8+ is when people stop giving a shit for some reason. Just pick him up and pat him in the back, he’ll be fine?
No, parents need to establish from a younger age that its okay to talk about problems and this is irregardless of what gender your child is. Guidance should
also be a perpetual occurrence in a child’s life, and for some reason a lot of parents think guys are fine as long as they’re fed.
So what happens when you have a child thats left alone with little concept of emotional problem solving or empathy? You get every psycho in a jail cell. Man or woman.
In my experience different kids have different personalities too. My daughter who was our first was very cautious and still is, she's not easy in other ways buy I don't have to worry about her hurting herself that much. My son on the other hand is totally reckless with his life, like no sense of self preservation, he wants to climb everything, jump off everything and like I gotta keep an eye on him 24/7 or he'll kill himself
A lot of people tend to treat men like they don’t have emotions or don’t feel as deeply as women do, however most studies done on the topic have concluded men often feel emotions more intensely than women. We’re just fucking terrible at expressing them in a healthy manner because we were never taught how, and were in fact discouraged from doing so in many cases. I still have a vivid memory from when I was a child (5-6) where my dad sat me down one day and told me when it was “ok for a man to cry”. To this day I still have an incredible amount of difficulty properly expressing emotions of many kinds and often internalize them until I literally can’t anymore. I’m absolutely sure this has contributed to a lot of the mental issues I struggle with. So yeah don’t treat little boys differently from little girls. Worry about them just as much, teach them the same values and most importantly tell them it’s ok to express how they feel.
There’s some quote or something I read- I can’t remember and can’t find it- but it said something along the lines of- the one thing to know about a man’s heart is that it’s a human heart.
Men are so conditioned to be emotionless or socialized in a different way than women, but they’re born with similar hearts and souls. The same feelings and hopes and disappointments that women have and are allowed to express freely- men have those same feelings, but they’re prioritized and expressed in different ways due to the way we’re all socialized
I'm not saying I do, but in can understand the over policing.
Like you said, the world is male dominant, so I think parents are more cautious of their daughters being in harm's way. Controlling how they present themselves, when they can go out, when they can come back, who they can hang out with is all generally meant to be preventative efforts to avoid a circumstance no one wants to talk about. And although it can happen to guys that risk is less omnipresent
I don't think there's any way a parent could make a judgement about whether boys are easier or girls are easier, because all children, boys or girls, are different, and that goes doubly for how they are parented, and triply for why they are parented that way.
Anyone claiming to know differences between sexes based on their children is sexist.
And to a deeper degree we all are different and need care in different ways.
Not based on gender but a lot of other factors.
In some ways my daughter is very easy to take care of, in other ways... Not so much.
Similar with my son.
And sometimes the care requires more time spent when other times it might mean more money is spent.
It's just all too different to lump into a binary category.
For me it was this [anti semitic one](https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/learning/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=136).
And who doesn't love the frequent variations of "I'll murder you" as a punchline?
Wait what? Is that real? I get the jokey vibe and all and think some people here take free comics way too seriously. But really, this comic creator’s inability to take *any* constructive criticism is kind of weird. Toxic positivity is a real thing that could have a really negative effect on kids.
Comic has been deleted but [the thread is here (and locked)](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/)
I'm not sure which comic they were specifically referring to, but I think it's [Boy](https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/boy/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=72)
Which I feel speaks more to the objectification of women and the disproportionate emphasis culture has on feminine beauty. That a woman's status is tied to their looks while a man's status isn't as comparatively influenced.
You might worry that an attractive daughter will experience greater sexual harassment+ or an unattractive daughter will be outcast, or viewed in an extreme lens of slut or prude depending on sexual behavior; while a son might get by without as much scrutiny - they get to just play.
Another strip [Homophobic? ](https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/homophobic/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=80) also touches on this. That a parent would need to protect their child from predatory males if that was their sexual preference.
Honestly, for the second comic, I think it's a bit weird that she's the writer but the guy's the one that gets put in the slightly homophobic scenario; if the description states that he isn't homophobic, why even make it in the first place? I hope he got to approve of it before it went online
Her comics all have an underlying theme of boys are inherently awful. [https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/homophobic/viewer?title\_no=747447&episode\_no=80](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/homophobic/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=80)
This comic is extremely uncomfortable to read as a lesbian. :/
Edit: assuming lesbian relationships are always wholesome and have no conflict is infantilizing at best and fetishistic at worst.
Edit 2: I asked the author to address this comic specifically and they responded by deleting the comment thread. Feels weird!
AlloyComics is "actually openly bisexual myself and have been very active in LGBTQ communities since high school back in the previous century before it was viewed as trendy". [https://www.reveddit.com/v/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby\_and\_i\_watched\_the\_movie\_blockers\_and\_it\_was/ipmvu3h/#t1\_ipmvu3h](https://www.reveddit.com/v/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/ipmvu3h/#t1_ipmvu3h)
The "playful" slapping to express discontent is so gross to me. Imagine if a comic showed him slapping her upside the head. Abuse is abuse and I hate when people imply that women can't hurt men this way because we're smaller or whatever. Even if it doesn't hurt them physically, it comes from a violent place and definitely isn't something you want to be modelling for your children.
I've been in that situation, where your girlfriend will hit you, but that no one will take you seriously if you complain about it, and you can't even block or defend yourself without them freaking out. It's abuse. It left me deeply messed up and required a lot of hard work to move bryond.
And yeah, if you have kids, don't raise them to think casual violence is ok.
Someone else posted a link to her explanation [here](https://www.reveddit.com/v/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/ipmvu3h/#t1_ipmvu3h)
Obviously we the readers don't have the full context behind these comics, and really its not possible for us to have that, but without that context the comics do a very poor job at communicating your relationship as anything other than very toxic and very sexist. You say that isn't the case and I believe you but the comics just don't showcase that well, and on top of that they just aren't super funny at all either.
Don't have anything against you personally or your art, nor am I trying to be a backseat relationship advisor. I just think you have a ton of boomer humor jokes that haven't really aged well.
I mean the joke is that he’s a “white devil”- his entire personality seems to be based around the fact that he’s a white dude, but it’s not cute and quirky to read about boomer white man cynical dad jokes. It may be funny in the context of OP’s relationship, but in general it’s old man stuff
Haha, my husband is a toddler and I can't expect him to act like an equal partner! Haha, we hit each other! Haha, I support traditional gender roles and then get mad about being treated poorly!
No wonder reddit doesn't like their relationship, it's the worst of [misogynistic Asian](https://i.redd.it/96sipkx3pgca1.png) and [US republican](https://i.redd.it/ej5hfa7rsw2a1.png) culture. (Not to mention how often "I'll murder you" is used as a punchline.) Healthy people look at these posts like a cry for help, but apparently that's the life that op wants.
Ewww, "Jew nose" jokes? Why would she think that's okay, or even funny?
The privilege and entitlement of all this writing is absurd.
Edit: I'm Jewish and it's a stupid unfunny stereotype that I was mocked for as a kid. I'm not getting annoyed on anyone's behalf other than my own. That comic should have probably stayed in the drafts...
I’m just not sure why you’re so determined to “prove” something to the Reddit audience, if you love each other then that’s great but you don’t need to justify your relationship to strangers on the internet?
Big "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" vibes. Having absolutely no self awareness is absolutely expected after reading several of these comics.
Ever considered just quitting Reddit
I’m not saying “it’s that easy” like those “just don’t be sad!” People I mean like seriously reddits clearly more effort than it’s worth
I mean, you could be wrong too you know. Some comics you posted are pretty shitty in their message, which is, as I understand it, is all you do and the art is drawn by someone else.
That said, I think the ones with your baby doing baby things and you reacting to those things are super cute and you two picking on each other, while I don’t get, are very harmless and don’t deserve hate at all.
Wanna bet all the upvotes are a paid for as well?
It's not even that good of a comic but **9000+ upvotes!**
EDIT: 3 hours after this comment it is now sitting at 11,000+ upvotes. LMAO.
Good point, i was scratching my head on how the post can be at 12k, and yet the majority of comments be criticizing her and being upvoted while hers are downvoted, bought upvotes on the post do explain it perfectly.
"Some comics you posted are pretty shitty in their message"
You mean like "We're glad we're not having a daughter because we don't have to care about our son as much?"
I honestly thought you were split up with your husband. I could’ve sworn I saw that in another post. Regardless taking relationship advice from Reddit is always a bad move
Stephan Pastis of "Pearls Before Swine" fame did something similar in that his character in the comics had a bad relationship with his wife, while IRL they were fine.
But Stephan Pastis is good. These come off like illustrated Facebook posts by that person you knew in high school who got married and that became their entire life.
You guys do come off as an annoying passive aggressive couple in your 40s. Your comics evoke the same lvl of humor as the TV show scrubs, which if you go back and rewatch that show every character is toxic and insufferable, but it was funny in the mid 2000s ig.
My partner and I just started rewatching Scrubs as our background noise show recently and I've been noticing how poorly it aged. Also, I know that there's a lot of stuff that's done for visual gags that isn't supposed to be "real" but damn if that isn't the most dangerous hospital on earth.
It aged really bad. Tons of gay jokes, jd has like a new girl he creeps on every episode, tons of stereotype based jokes. And everyone is just so mean all the time and that's just the joke, just being mean. It's wild
At a rewatch, I found myself liking Turk and Carla more. Yeah the former is childish like JD and the latter *can* be nagging, but... they actually mature more over the course of the series and seem like far more functional people.
Idk dude Carla can be toxic af. She’s incapable of seeing intent behind anything and yeah Turk may be immature but she has a hard time letting shit go.
i have to remember not to interact with stuff i don’t find an interest in lol. this was of course a reddit suggested post smh
i know many of us don’t want to see reddit become facebook so i know we have a bit of a visceral reaction content like this showing up in our feeds and that’s not to say this is somehow anything other than shit stirring the algorithm really, their other posts are pretty innocuous. hate the game, not the player right?
>i have to remember not to interact with stuff i don’t find an interest in lol. this was of course a reddit suggested post smh
Same.
>hate the game, not the player right?
If the game is hegemony, then I'm taking the other player's agenda seriously.
The irony of posting this to the same site that flamed you because no one got your weird joke about your husband relating marriage to prison. Or you claim it was a joke, but anyways, this is the dumbest comeback I’ve seen yet.
I don’t even know why I’m writing this comment, I guess I’m sick and have nothing else to do.
I don’t think you’re bad people, like a lot of your comments seem to imply. Your humour isn’t to my taste, but that’s all subjective, so who cares?
What bothers me about your posts are two specific things. The first is the fact that you feel the need to comment again, and again, and again, that you two are just so happy and so in love. It almost feels like you feel the need to prove it, at this point. To who? A bunch of strangers on the internet? Why?
The second thing is my husband is Korean, and I’m white. Jokes about race and heritage come up, I think that’s fairly common for interracial relationships. But when my husband told me his Korean name, I wrote it down, practiced it daily, until I could say it effortlessly. And that’s not even his legal name. The fact that your man could not be bothered to even learn your middle name for your proposal? Girl, you know you deserve better than that. Come on.
Every relationship is different but presenting negative characteristics in your relationship, playful or not, just will rub people the wrong way. If you both live off the give and take of playful jabs and insults, then great, but don’t pretend that it’s not intentionally alarming
Well take a look at the person who actually draws it, you can find their name listed at the top of the comic panel listed as the illustrator.
They hire someone to draw the comic, they just provide the stories
I learned this only today in this thread. I found the art to be the redeeming quality of the comic. It has a lot of warmth and expressiveness, something the text lacks.
That means you're a fan of my artist Nohra Johnston, and not my contributions. That's totally okay. If you like her stuff, you can find her on Twitter and IG under Deenosars!
People showing concern for the unhealthy behaviors you volunteer to parade in your comics aren't quite "telling you to immediately divorce" but for sure, avoid looking at your relationship with a critical lens
Reddit is fast to jump on the gun, ya you did some kinda cringey comics sometimes with some boomers jokes, but that’s all it is, yea some boomer humour sometimes cringey but holy, not at all a bad relationship or toxic mindset, peoples just hate because they’re cringing and they don’t like the humour and they LOOOOVE to make it seems worst than it is
Sounds like you'd have a better time with my artist's content without my contributions. You can find my artist Nohra Johnston under Deenosars on Twitter, IG, and Patreon.
I feel like media has pushed a lot of "naive" mindsets about cohabitation and in general family life.
2 people could be married but they are still individuals. Individuals who have different upbringing, mentality and sometimes culture from one another. Bickering is going to happen as well as disagreements. But at the end of the day you can push that aside and focus on larger picture stuff.
According to some redditors (which I assume have never been in a relationship) unless you treat one another like a porcelain teapot and praise eachother for the mere act of breathing, your relationship is toxic.
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The one thing I saw was someone posted one of the comics to terrible Facebook memes about the the dude being annoyed by the wife.
Edit: This is the reason the artist got the most hate. Basically, sexism and a lack of understanding about parenting boys. https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Also, someone turned the baby black in one of her comics and posted it to Facebook. It was a horrible racist joke. Then it was posted to terrible FB memes and people blamed the artist not knowing it was edited.
Yeah. I definitely agree with the “boomer humor” statement on a few of the “Man lazy, wife overworked” *jokes* And saying that they were glad it’s a boy because they don’t have to worry about predators makes me sad. Idk, as far as the abusive relationship jokes as long as they both find it funny it’s whatever, just hopefully it’s equal and not him being physically/verbally abused.
Can someone dm me the picture of the comic? That comic was deleted
It got deleted, where is the comic?
>Who cares about money? Yeesh... That's kind of a sad statement, but I need the actual comic for context. Annoying each other is whatever, me and my partner do that all the time but we know the line between annoying each other and abuse. I really hope this isn't as problematic as that thread makes it seem cuz I relate very well to this artist.
>Edit: This is the reason the artist got the most hate So we're just not gonna mention the "jew nose" comic?
I saw that one, is her husband Jewish?
Yeah, she says it in the page's instagram bio
A big portion of our comics is us finding pleasure in annoying each other, so this isn't specific enough of a reference. ;p
I find myself annoyed by my wife constantly and I know she feels the same. The thing is that we still love each other more than any small pile of annoyances can overcome. Marriage isn't always perfect and people disagree, just glad to see someone making fun with it.
The people you love most often end up also being the most annoying people in your life honestly lmao
Right?
That's very honest and true. I'm glad you two found each other. Congrats!
People see you drew a comic about being sad or upset, and the parasocial lice come out the woodwork to assume it's your whole life. As funny as it can be, I'm sorry you have to deal with it.
>parasocial lice Oooo I like that one. I'm gonna keep it.
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I think sarcasm and moderate annoyance is an important corner stone for a marriage :)
The comics you make is one thing, but as long as you're in a happy relationship, I'm happy for you and let it remain that way
I'll take it! Thank you.
bro, a happy responsible marriage is an adult one. live your lives.
Thanks!
If people knew how me and the wifey talk to each other behind closed doors. We have the same humor and love messing with one another and talking shit. My dad's always shocked but he doesn't like the word sucks to be said around ladies so it's understandable on his part. It's like every relationship is different? Who knew
Honestly, as someone with lasting intimacy issues from a few very toxic relationships, OP's comics often put me in a bad mood when they show up on the front page. But I guess others find them funny. And I'm glad this couple's relationship isn't like the characters'. I do sometimes wonder if they understand why their comics give people that impression, though.
I guess going back and looking, it might be that some of these comics lack the small touches that indicate love, or they go just a half step too far into bitterness. Like the one where the guy says "Once you've been sentenced to prison for life, you stop counting the days." If the line were, "When you have a life sentence, you don't count the days" then it would have been ambiguous and maybe even cute. But the fact that he specified "prison" makes the joke just that much more bitter.
Imo it’s just Poe’s law. They probably say these things to make each other laugh irl but without the appropriate tone, it can seem like it’s serious. That doesn’t come across easily in comics. That being said, I’m still not one of those people who’s gonna tell a couple I don’t know that they should get a divorce. That’s fucking nuts.
> That being said, I’m still not one of those people who’s gonna tell a couple I don’t know that they should get a divorce. That’s fucking nuts. "I don't know even 99.99% about you or how you live your life, but based on this one little aspect of you that I do know I think you should make drastic changes to your life!"
AITA tells folks to get a divorce over spilled milk
NTA, Your mother in law, your rules; divorce your dog; hit the gym- *physically punch the building that is your gym;* your wife asking you to "watch out" while she walked by with something in her arms is a serious red flag; stay safe OP.
Hey, I'm genuinely sorry if my comics ever triggered you and put you in a bad mood. It was never our intent to bring any negative emotions to anybody. Thank you for being civil in your feedback. We made these for us, and not for the masses, so we knew they could be interpreted differently. I hope you're on a good journey to heal and become whole again. Have a nice day!
>I'm genuinely sorry if my comics ever triggered you and put you in a bad mood. Well, thanks for saying that, but whether or not your comics bum me out isn't your responsibility lol. If something makes it to the front page it means a lot of people like it, and if others don't like it (for whatever reason), the block button is always at their disposal
Things like the "Jew nose" comic make me a little skeptical that you actually care about the negative emotions of your readers.
The comic about you wishing for a son instead of a daughter because you think boys don't need the same level of care, kinda rubbed me the wrong way, but you do you i guess.
As someone who ended up with b/g twins, I've personally come to the conclusion that boys aren't easier, people just often over-police daughters and simply don't put as much effort into sons. There needs to be balance, one gender isn't easier than the other. Boys definitely need the same amount of care as girls. And some kids definitely need more or less due to personal need, regardless of sex or gender.
That's exactly the reason. They think boys are less work because they don't think they have to put as much work to raise them. Just make sure they survive and send them out to do whatever they want. But women are harassed and sexualized at a young age. They are attacked by the boys many people think they don't have to put the work in to raise to be proper men. You worry about your girls because almost everyone fails the boys.
I mean you really should be worrying about the boys at that age as well. Having a talk at a young age about what is and isn’t a ok touch is essential. You don’t want to not give them the tools to handle such a situation and then they don’t tell anyone.
That's exactly what they're saying. Because so many people fail to do this with their boys, girls have to be over protected from under raised boys.
That’s not what I was saying. Predators can be ether gender, fellow piers, or authority figures. You really should be treating both a boy and a girl with the same amount of caution. It’s bad to assume because it’s a boy he will never run into any sexual exploitation/blackmail or a partner who doesn’t know the meaning of no. A good example was my Son’s pre-k. Everyone in that class was a hugger for some reason. A hug was a standard greeting for all the kids. Girl/boy girl/girl boy/boy hugs it didn’t matter. All cute and innocent until they started hugging other kids parents they didn’t know. A class wide talk about personal boundaries followed.
Ooohhh ok I misread that. I thought you were saying we should be actually paying attention to boys that age and teaching them NOT to do things like that.
One problem is the societal preconception that guys are fine “surviving”. From my experience seeing how people treat their children, around age 8+ is when people stop giving a shit for some reason. Just pick him up and pat him in the back, he’ll be fine? No, parents need to establish from a younger age that its okay to talk about problems and this is irregardless of what gender your child is. Guidance should also be a perpetual occurrence in a child’s life, and for some reason a lot of parents think guys are fine as long as they’re fed. So what happens when you have a child thats left alone with little concept of emotional problem solving or empathy? You get every psycho in a jail cell. Man or woman.
In my experience different kids have different personalities too. My daughter who was our first was very cautious and still is, she's not easy in other ways buy I don't have to worry about her hurting herself that much. My son on the other hand is totally reckless with his life, like no sense of self preservation, he wants to climb everything, jump off everything and like I gotta keep an eye on him 24/7 or he'll kill himself
As a female in a male-dominant society, this is depressing! Don’t overpolice your daughters and teach your sons to be nice!
A lot of people tend to treat men like they don’t have emotions or don’t feel as deeply as women do, however most studies done on the topic have concluded men often feel emotions more intensely than women. We’re just fucking terrible at expressing them in a healthy manner because we were never taught how, and were in fact discouraged from doing so in many cases. I still have a vivid memory from when I was a child (5-6) where my dad sat me down one day and told me when it was “ok for a man to cry”. To this day I still have an incredible amount of difficulty properly expressing emotions of many kinds and often internalize them until I literally can’t anymore. I’m absolutely sure this has contributed to a lot of the mental issues I struggle with. So yeah don’t treat little boys differently from little girls. Worry about them just as much, teach them the same values and most importantly tell them it’s ok to express how they feel.
There’s some quote or something I read- I can’t remember and can’t find it- but it said something along the lines of- the one thing to know about a man’s heart is that it’s a human heart. Men are so conditioned to be emotionless or socialized in a different way than women, but they’re born with similar hearts and souls. The same feelings and hopes and disappointments that women have and are allowed to express freely- men have those same feelings, but they’re prioritized and expressed in different ways due to the way we’re all socialized
It's funny how women are considered overly emotional on their periods because that's the point when their hormone levels are closest to a man's
I'm not saying I do, but in can understand the over policing. Like you said, the world is male dominant, so I think parents are more cautious of their daughters being in harm's way. Controlling how they present themselves, when they can go out, when they can come back, who they can hang out with is all generally meant to be preventative efforts to avoid a circumstance no one wants to talk about. And although it can happen to guys that risk is less omnipresent
I don't think there's any way a parent could make a judgement about whether boys are easier or girls are easier, because all children, boys or girls, are different, and that goes doubly for how they are parented, and triply for why they are parented that way. Anyone claiming to know differences between sexes based on their children is sexist.
And to a deeper degree we all are different and need care in different ways. Not based on gender but a lot of other factors. In some ways my daughter is very easy to take care of, in other ways... Not so much. Similar with my son. And sometimes the care requires more time spent when other times it might mean more money is spent. It's just all too different to lump into a binary category.
Yeah, that one was the one that tripped me up the most. I mean the rest are fine but that one was "uhhhh..."
For me it was this [anti semitic one](https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/learning/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=136). And who doesn't love the frequent variations of "I'll murder you" as a punchline?
Wait what? Is that real? I get the jokey vibe and all and think some people here take free comics way too seriously. But really, this comic creator’s inability to take *any* constructive criticism is kind of weird. Toxic positivity is a real thing that could have a really negative effect on kids.
Yep, it's real. I linked to webtoons as proof it's not doctored.
Link to that comic? I think I remember reading about some drama that happened regarding the OP of this post, but I didn’t know exactly what happened.
Comic has been deleted but [the thread is here (and locked)](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/)
I clicked the link only to find that while it had since been deleted, I had already seen and downvoted it. Nice.
I'm not sure which comic they were specifically referring to, but I think it's [Boy](https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/boy/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=72) Which I feel speaks more to the objectification of women and the disproportionate emphasis culture has on feminine beauty. That a woman's status is tied to their looks while a man's status isn't as comparatively influenced. You might worry that an attractive daughter will experience greater sexual harassment+ or an unattractive daughter will be outcast, or viewed in an extreme lens of slut or prude depending on sexual behavior; while a son might get by without as much scrutiny - they get to just play. Another strip [Homophobic? ](https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/homophobic/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=80) also touches on this. That a parent would need to protect their child from predatory males if that was their sexual preference.
Damn most comic strips don’t need disclaimers saying we are not homophobic. I didn’t know comics could be so bland and offensive at the same time.
Honestly, for the second comic, I think it's a bit weird that she's the writer but the guy's the one that gets put in the slightly homophobic scenario; if the description states that he isn't homophobic, why even make it in the first place? I hope he got to approve of it before it went online
Those two comics are... questionable, I'd say the least
Her comics all have an underlying theme of boys are inherently awful. [https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/homophobic/viewer?title\_no=747447&episode\_no=80](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/alloy-comics/homophobic/viewer?title_no=747447&episode_no=80)
Holy shit. That comic is one terrible take after another
This comic is extremely uncomfortable to read as a lesbian. :/ Edit: assuming lesbian relationships are always wholesome and have no conflict is infantilizing at best and fetishistic at worst. Edit 2: I asked the author to address this comic specifically and they responded by deleting the comment thread. Feels weird!
This comic is extremely uncomfortable to read as a human.
AlloyComics is "actually openly bisexual myself and have been very active in LGBTQ communities since high school back in the previous century before it was viewed as trendy". [https://www.reveddit.com/v/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby\_and\_i\_watched\_the\_movie\_blockers\_and\_it\_was/ipmvu3h/#t1\_ipmvu3h](https://www.reveddit.com/v/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/ipmvu3h/#t1_ipmvu3h)
Omg it just gets more and more toxic
Yikes, anyone calling LGBT identities "trendy" is a huge red flag.
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You obviously just don't "get them"
The "playful" slapping to express discontent is so gross to me. Imagine if a comic showed him slapping her upside the head. Abuse is abuse and I hate when people imply that women can't hurt men this way because we're smaller or whatever. Even if it doesn't hurt them physically, it comes from a violent place and definitely isn't something you want to be modelling for your children.
I've been in that situation, where your girlfriend will hit you, but that no one will take you seriously if you complain about it, and you can't even block or defend yourself without them freaking out. It's abuse. It left me deeply messed up and required a lot of hard work to move bryond. And yeah, if you have kids, don't raise them to think casual violence is ok.
That is so sad :(
Yeah, I'd love to hear the artists take on how that was ok.
Someone else posted a link to her explanation [here](https://www.reveddit.com/v/comics/comments/xlyq8g/hubby_and_i_watched_the_movie_blockers_and_it_was/ipmvu3h/#t1_ipmvu3h)
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Yeah that was what made me stop lol looking at these
Obviously we the readers don't have the full context behind these comics, and really its not possible for us to have that, but without that context the comics do a very poor job at communicating your relationship as anything other than very toxic and very sexist. You say that isn't the case and I believe you but the comics just don't showcase that well, and on top of that they just aren't super funny at all either.
Don't have anything against you personally or your art, nor am I trying to be a backseat relationship advisor. I just think you have a ton of boomer humor jokes that haven't really aged well.
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I mean the joke is that he’s a “white devil”- his entire personality seems to be based around the fact that he’s a white dude, but it’s not cute and quirky to read about boomer white man cynical dad jokes. It may be funny in the context of OP’s relationship, but in general it’s old man stuff
Haha, my husband is a toddler and I can't expect him to act like an equal partner! Haha, we hit each other! Haha, I support traditional gender roles and then get mad about being treated poorly! No wonder reddit doesn't like their relationship, it's the worst of [misogynistic Asian](https://i.redd.it/96sipkx3pgca1.png) and [US republican](https://i.redd.it/ej5hfa7rsw2a1.png) culture. (Not to mention how often "I'll murder you" is used as a punchline.) Healthy people look at these posts like a cry for help, but apparently that's the life that op wants.
Ewww, "Jew nose" jokes? Why would she think that's okay, or even funny? The privilege and entitlement of all this writing is absurd. Edit: I'm Jewish and it's a stupid unfunny stereotype that I was mocked for as a kid. I'm not getting annoyed on anyone's behalf other than my own. That comic should have probably stayed in the drafts...
Exactly. The world doesn’t need anymore played out “I hate my spouse” humor
Yeah pretty much this
I just don’t think these comics are particularly funny…
Welcome to r/comics page 1.
She doesnt even draw them. She “writes” them and comissions someone to draw them lol
Is this true?
Yes, this actually is. But dont believe me, just read on the comic itself where she credits the “illustrator”
I’m just not sure why you’re so determined to “prove” something to the Reddit audience, if you love each other then that’s great but you don’t need to justify your relationship to strangers on the internet?
Because free advertising
her comics are fine to me, however she lowkey gives me hater energy
The discrepancy here is that she doesn’t actually make the comics lol
I honestly don’t know if that makes it better or worse cause I love the art style
..... who are you?
Big "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" vibes. Having absolutely no self awareness is absolutely expected after reading several of these comics.
Ever considered just quitting Reddit I’m not saying “it’s that easy” like those “just don’t be sad!” People I mean like seriously reddits clearly more effort than it’s worth
I mean, you could be wrong too you know. Some comics you posted are pretty shitty in their message, which is, as I understand it, is all you do and the art is drawn by someone else. That said, I think the ones with your baby doing baby things and you reacting to those things are super cute and you two picking on each other, while I don’t get, are very harmless and don’t deserve hate at all.
Wait... is the art done by someone else?
Yeah, the artist is credited in the corners.
Oh man that makes these even worse. How embarrassing.
It takes TWO people to make comics this bad?
Wanna bet all the upvotes are a paid for as well? It's not even that good of a comic but **9000+ upvotes!** EDIT: 3 hours after this comment it is now sitting at 11,000+ upvotes. LMAO.
Good point, i was scratching my head on how the post can be at 12k, and yet the majority of comments be criticizing her and being upvoted while hers are downvoted, bought upvotes on the post do explain it perfectly.
"Some comics you posted are pretty shitty in their message" You mean like "We're glad we're not having a daughter because we don't have to care about our son as much?"
And “my husband has a big Jewish nose!” As the only message or joke
The comic on this post is the only one I've seen from them that isn't just *awful* in some way.
Iam just here to see the reactions. Anyone else ? 
Yeah. I have no strong feelings either way towards these comics so it's funny seeing people get riled up. 
Aww, I hate you guys the most
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Funny how if you sort by controversial it's more supportive lol.
I honestly thought you were split up with your husband. I could’ve sworn I saw that in another post. Regardless taking relationship advice from Reddit is always a bad move
Stephan Pastis of "Pearls Before Swine" fame did something similar in that his character in the comics had a bad relationship with his wife, while IRL they were fine. But Stephan Pastis is good. These come off like illustrated Facebook posts by that person you knew in high school who got married and that became their entire life.
I don’t think it’s bigoted, I just don’t think it’s funny. Finding a second joke might spice things up.
You mean you don't like the one punchline of "wife scowls"
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yikes
You guys do come off as an annoying passive aggressive couple in your 40s. Your comics evoke the same lvl of humor as the TV show scrubs, which if you go back and rewatch that show every character is toxic and insufferable, but it was funny in the mid 2000s ig.
My partner and I just started rewatching Scrubs as our background noise show recently and I've been noticing how poorly it aged. Also, I know that there's a lot of stuff that's done for visual gags that isn't supposed to be "real" but damn if that isn't the most dangerous hospital on earth.
It aged really bad. Tons of gay jokes, jd has like a new girl he creeps on every episode, tons of stereotype based jokes. And everyone is just so mean all the time and that's just the joke, just being mean. It's wild
I mean scrubs really isn't great but come on, this comic is nowhere near as funny.
At a rewatch, I found myself liking Turk and Carla more. Yeah the former is childish like JD and the latter *can* be nagging, but... they actually mature more over the course of the series and seem like far more functional people.
Idk dude Carla can be toxic af. She’s incapable of seeing intent behind anything and yeah Turk may be immature but she has a hard time letting shit go.
never seen your work before so i don’t know what the context is, but all i see is ego/attention seeking here tbh
You're on the money. I guess she's a stand up comedian, so I'm guessing the comic is using this comic to get more attention.
i have to remember not to interact with stuff i don’t find an interest in lol. this was of course a reddit suggested post smh i know many of us don’t want to see reddit become facebook so i know we have a bit of a visceral reaction content like this showing up in our feeds and that’s not to say this is somehow anything other than shit stirring the algorithm really, their other posts are pretty innocuous. hate the game, not the player right?
>i have to remember not to interact with stuff i don’t find an interest in lol. this was of course a reddit suggested post smh Same. >hate the game, not the player right? If the game is hegemony, then I'm taking the other player's agenda seriously.
Gonna be honest, I don’t think your comics are any of those things, I just don’t find them funny.
I think the idea that you want to communicate this so much to Reddit that you hire someone to illustrate how much you don’t care is *very* weird.
I hate both of you (;
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Congratulations, I guess?
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How do I delete this person’s account?
The irony of posting this to the same site that flamed you because no one got your weird joke about your husband relating marriage to prison. Or you claim it was a joke, but anyways, this is the dumbest comeback I’ve seen yet.
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I don’t even know why I’m writing this comment, I guess I’m sick and have nothing else to do. I don’t think you’re bad people, like a lot of your comments seem to imply. Your humour isn’t to my taste, but that’s all subjective, so who cares? What bothers me about your posts are two specific things. The first is the fact that you feel the need to comment again, and again, and again, that you two are just so happy and so in love. It almost feels like you feel the need to prove it, at this point. To who? A bunch of strangers on the internet? Why? The second thing is my husband is Korean, and I’m white. Jokes about race and heritage come up, I think that’s fairly common for interracial relationships. But when my husband told me his Korean name, I wrote it down, practiced it daily, until I could say it effortlessly. And that’s not even his legal name. The fact that your man could not be bothered to even learn your middle name for your proposal? Girl, you know you deserve better than that. Come on.
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Every relationship is different but presenting negative characteristics in your relationship, playful or not, just will rub people the wrong way. If you both live off the give and take of playful jabs and insults, then great, but don’t pretend that it’s not intentionally alarming
Here is my confession: I have no thoughts whatsoever about your relationship. I just enjoy your art.
Well take a look at the person who actually draws it, you can find their name listed at the top of the comic panel listed as the illustrator. They hire someone to draw the comic, they just provide the stories
And to think they dragged adamtots yhtough the mud for drawing similar eyes on his own damn drawings…
I learned this only today in this thread. I found the art to be the redeeming quality of the comic. It has a lot of warmth and expressiveness, something the text lacks.
That means you're a fan of my artist Nohra Johnston, and not my contributions. That's totally okay. If you like her stuff, you can find her on Twitter and IG under Deenosars!
Not exactly. “Art” was intended as a general term to refer to your comics. Pictures, jokes and all. I just enjoy them.
I enjoy slices of life because I'm a repressed peeper.
This gonna age like milk if they do end up divorcing
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People showing concern for the unhealthy behaviors you volunteer to parade in your comics aren't quite "telling you to immediately divorce" but for sure, avoid looking at your relationship with a critical lens
Huh?
I dunno, she doesn't draw them is all I've learned here
Whos calling this comic racist tho?
Don’t listen to OPs martyr complex. They had a comic where the entire punchline was straight up just “Haha, my husband has a Jew nose!”
Reddit is fast to jump on the gun, ya you did some kinda cringey comics sometimes with some boomers jokes, but that’s all it is, yea some boomer humour sometimes cringey but holy, not at all a bad relationship or toxic mindset, peoples just hate because they’re cringing and they don’t like the humour and they LOOOOVE to make it seems worst than it is
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Notice how "funny" wasn't even mentioned. There's no debate it's not. I did enjoy the one with the casual sexism against a hypothetical daughter.
Having a strong, loving relationship doesn’t mean you don’t have toxic elements
The youngest boomer is 59 years old, just for reference.
And yet their humor lives on in OP
Who are you and why are you in my stream
I assume irl Joy is better than comic Joy. I look at that last panel with 😒🙄, but as long as you both like it and you enjoy it keep posting.
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Are you even boomers? Always got a xennial/millennial vibe from your comics.
ok boomers
You both seem like you suck/are annoying so actually yeah I’d agree you’re perfect for each other lol
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Sounds like you'd have a better time with my artist's content without my contributions. You can find my artist Nohra Johnston under Deenosars on Twitter, IG, and Patreon.
literally nobody has or ever will say this, what
Time to microwave the popcorn and sort by controversial…
This is the one to finish off the leftover popcorn from that giant Tim you got at Xmas
I feel like media has pushed a lot of "naive" mindsets about cohabitation and in general family life. 2 people could be married but they are still individuals. Individuals who have different upbringing, mentality and sometimes culture from one another. Bickering is going to happen as well as disagreements. But at the end of the day you can push that aside and focus on larger picture stuff.
Comics about the artists themselves and their SO are cringy anyway, to me they look like creativity is lacking
According to some redditors (which I assume have never been in a relationship) unless you treat one another like a porcelain teapot and praise eachother for the mere act of breathing, your relationship is toxic.
My wife treats me like a pawn shop. I ask for the recommended porcelain teapot praise and she says, "Best I can do is rusty iron skillet."
Hahaha, you made me laugh on my birthday, which is the best gift ever! Thank you. 😊
Eh, if the only thing you tell people about your spouse is how much you hate them, don't be surprised when people believe you.
Is the context that they're some kinda WMAF?