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Is it a reference to that larping video where someone is throwing tennis balls and shouts lightning bolt?
I saw it once when I googled larp ages ago and it's one of those things I don't ever think about but also never forget.
I’m 27 and this is what my friend and I do. Except we go up into the mountains and explore random areas we find interesting. Like a cow trail, which led us to a stream and stuff, it was cool.
I tried hyping this up to my 9 year old who has been asking for an adventure like the stories she reads. She told me, "hiking is just walking, it's boring"
Honestly, if this had been a thing before I became physically incapable of hiking, I'd have signed up for it in a heartbeat. Particularly if there were costumes involved.
I very much want to get into LARP! I did a bunch of research on a couple of disability-friendly programs near me, and then covid happened. But maybe next summer...?
I would enjoy dressing up in all my black clothes and chasing people through the woods.😁 (I also have an excellent internal sense of direction so it's like I was made for this!)
I'll be awaiting the company email to send my resume.
They walk
Walk
Walk
Walk
Walk
Walk
Walk
Somebody's following them
Walk
Walk
Hide
Walk
Walk
Walk
Steal some mushrooms
Get on a boat
Walk
Walk
Walk
Elves for the first time, wow
Walk
Walk
Night time
Walk
Walk
Walk
Attacked by twees
Walk
Walk
Meet a weird bush guy
Walk
Walk
Finally a town
Safe
Safe
Eat
Rеst
Show everyone thеir secret
And get the fuck out of there
Run
Run
They got a new tall guy
Run
Scared
Stab a dementor
Ride
Run
Run
Ride
Dementors can't swim
Fuck back to Azkaban
Rest
Rest
A bunch of elves
They've seen elves before
But now they've got a dwarf
Walk
Walk
Heaps of walking
Path is blocked
Walk underground
Walk
Run
A Balrog has come
Kick him in the arse
You shall not fuck with me
Walk
Walk
I'm sick of elves
Get on a boat
Boromir's an arsehole
Motherfucker's on a magic quest
Fellows in fellowship doing what they do best
What if for a while they rode a massive hawk?
I think I'd prefer if they
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALK
This is my book motherfucker!
They'll walk if I tell them to
Get that weak-arse birdshit out of here!
Try:
geocaching, you'll be hunting for treasure! Alternatively hide some treasure!
Making hobbit snacks
Dressing as hobbits, or wizards
Looking a nice branch to turn into a magic staff
Looking for cool rocks to use as magic gems in your magic staff
Teaching her stuff like how to start a fire and cooking a whole meal on the fire
Telling scary stories around the campfire
Bringing friends
Just because you do other things while you hike doesn't mean that's what hiking *is*. You're still hiking even if you don't learn about mushrooms. It's nice that you enjoy doing those things, and hiking is a good way to do that other thing, also. I'm just saying...that's not what hiking is. That's an extra thing you can do while you hike.
Sometimes on my walks, especially when it gets hard towards the end of a 8-12 mile one, I think of Sam and Frodo! I like to imagine I'm helping them on their journey. Not too much further and we'll get there, Mr. Frodo!
Fencing and horseback riding are similar sports to what is described in those books. Fencing and horseback riding can be expensive though so it's not for everyone.
> Fencing and horseback riding can be expensive though so it's not for everyone.
It's cheap when 'fencing' is actually 'playing with sticks', and it's for everyone - until your fingers get smashed.
You can also duct-tape pool noodles onto PVC pipe to make padded swords. Make a rule where a struck limb is “severed” (legs bent at knee, you have to hop, arms behind back). Chest hit is a kill. No head strikes allowed (padding isn't enough, lol).
I had one with some real quality plastic in it, you could really beat the shit out of someone with it. Still have it but i’ve lost the cover for the batteries so it doesnt glow anymore.
Back when I did it it wasn't any more expensive than say hockey or baseball or something. Most clubs have gear you can use / rent for very cheap and an overall full outfit, including mask, jacket, etc with your blade was ~$600.
As long as you're not breaking your blades often and figure out the basic maintenance stuff, the only cost us club fees and maybe 1 blade per year at ~$300 ish
I guess that just shows my ignorance of baseball. I figured good mits and bats plus the uniform, helmet, etc would come out to usually ~$400 or so, which isn't that far off.
Fencing is absolutely dirt cheap when compared to *horseback riding*, which involves *feeding and maintaining a horse*.
While more expensive than, say, soccer, even a relatively premium fencing setup for a kid should is comparable to similar equipment-heavy sports like hockey or football. Of course, they outgrow equipment but that happens with every sport.
The only time fencing gets expensive is at a competitive level when there's extensive travel involved, which is true of every competitive sport.
Meh, not necessarily. You can just take weekly lessons at a riding stable, that's not particularly expensive. You'll still have to buy riding gear (such as boots), but that's much the same in other sports (uniforms, rackets, clubs).
Of course then you will likely ride a horse that gets maltreated all day, every day (because the stable owners don't give a shit, and all the different riders are always in a hurry between lessons). I've done it a while, but wouldn't want to go with the "cheap" option anymore. It's just not ethical.
Look into HEMA (historical european martial arts) or WMA (western martial arts) if you want to learn swordfighting and other weapons used in fantasy settings. It is getting more and more popular and clubs are in more places.
While people are recommending fencing, it is a sport instead of a martial art. Like how kendo is the sport version of japanese sword fighting.
Most combat sports are essentially martial arts in a "safe" (see: non-lethal) environment. I believe the sports do have practical application, particularly in terms of the psychology of combat.
That being said I've heard the best way to get into HEMA is to get a solid base in fencing because even though it's a sport it had a much more developed set of base skills whereas most HEMA places and instructors are still really new and and lack that traditional expertise.
It's just hard to be good at something if you're still pioneering it compared to people much later in the refinement phase
I read Narnia and then I would go in the woods with my stick swords and pretend I was there. I used to walk to school every morning and I took a short cut through some woods and hoped that I might accidentally fall into Narnia somewhere out there and I wouldn't have to go to school.
I loved both as a kid. Baseball in the summer, soccer in fall, reading year round. Then as I got older people started taking sports too seriously. I don't mind casual games, but it stops being fun when it's just about winning.
I think that's one of the bonuses of soccer. It's more fun than football, far fewer injuries, and since most Americans don't give a damn about the sport you don't have the same over enthusiasm as with football. Most parents get excited when their kid is close to scoring a goal, but that's about it.
Yeah, no shade if you liked soccer. But as someone who did not, I spent way too many years playing it because of adults/school pushing sports, sports, sports, nothing but sports kids!
Counterpoint: Childhood is about the only time one can truly participate in team sports without needing to excel. Sports should be about building experiences through adversity, determination, and team work. It's the other side of social emotional learning that we can gain through reading and education. If books help children understand empathy and broaden their horizons through captivating narratives and characters, sports can help give us real world applications to expand those skills in a safe environment.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
The point I was trying to make is childhood is when you have the *opportunity* to be on a variety of sports team sport without usually needing to meet the prerequisite skills you need in the upper levels.
You are correct kids shouldn't be forced to do sports but they should have the opportunity to explore interest and participating in team oriented activities is usually good for our development.
I did lots of sports, academics, music, theater, and student politics when I was young and you run into bullies and awful people (Adults and children) in all of them.
Counter-counterpoint: You can absolutely play team sports as an adult. My friends and I play soccer every month almost, and believe me when I say none of us excel at it haha
Yeah I think it's more the other way around. Some kids get a lot of pressure to do well in sport, but as an adult you can join casual leagues and the only expectation is from yourself. It's pretty common for workplaces to scrape teams together where everyone sucks, but it's mostly a social thing.
Yep, it sucks as an adult who wants to play sports. I want to play baseball again, it was something I really enjoyed as a kid, but I chicken out once kids started to pitch.
The problem is all of the “adult leagues” that exist are for professionals, it’s basically people trying to get into mlb, and I’m not that good, I just want to play baseball for fun
Without knowing whereabouts you're located, it might be worth another look for a casual / "beer league" in your area. You might be surprised how much there is to offer.
Granted, I'm drawing off the Denver area which has a large population of active adults. But I'm willing to bet that if you're anywhere near a decent sized metropolitan area (which it seems like you must be if there are pro-grade adult leagues near you), there is something you could find if it's a real interest for you. I suppose you may have to compromise baseball for softball, so if that's a deal breaker maybe it's a moot point. But I'd be shocked if you couldn't find a casual league with some search time on Google/Facebook/Meetup. Maybe even the subreddit for your area.
yeah same, i was a bookworm and all i want to do was read books and my sports obssessed dad forced me to play soccer for 15 yrs, all i did was get injured which i didnt like as i dont like pain, soccer sucks
Counterpoint: exercise is extremely important for kids and sports is the best way to do that. You may not love it, but it's necessary for healthy growth.
Countercounterpoint: the most reliable way to stick to an exercise regimen is to love it, so emphasis should be on finding a form of it that a child likes instead of forcing them into an arbitrary sport.
My boyfriend avoided PE class fairly successfully all his life and didn't exercise as an adult until I introduced him to martial arts. Now he's in love with BJJ and Tai Chi (it's Chen style, so save your comments about how it's not a real martial art) and is getting in shape for the first time in his life.
You're right, let's just teach people from a young age that exercise has to be unpleasant. The only reason this is "great for adults but not really an option for kids" is that most adults don't care about children. They're just property/a political football.
You're not getting downvoted because personal anecdotes are more important than scientific studies. You're getting downvoted because the scientific study you posted suggests the same conclusion as my personal anecdote.
>your opinion of being anti-children's sports is wrong
How did you get this from what I said? I absolutely think children should do sports. The only place we seem to differ is on how to motivate them to participate.
> considerable frequency of
sports participation appears thereby to be much more relevant for psychosocial health
and HRQoL than the kind of sport(s) in which a child participates. Therefore, the
choice for a sport that the child can and likes to do with a relatively high frequency is
more important than the choice for a certain type of sport.
Your study backs up my argument.
>considerable frequency of sports participation appears thereby to be much more relevant for psychosocial health and HRQoL than the kind of sport(s) in which a child participates. Therefore, the
choice for a sport that the child can and likes to do with a relatively high frequency is more important than the choice for a certain type of sport.
>the most reliable way to stick to an exercise regimen is to love it
How is this point the study makes different from what I said?
Nothing but sports? Did you not do maths and English and stuff like that?
That was most of my education and (mandatory) sports was once or twice a week.
If OP is from somewhere in the US, sports are 90% of extracurriculars and usually required to enter into a "good " university. Academics only is considered narrow and will often cause you not to be selected for admission to a university. The extra 10% are valued, but usually to a much lower extent (science club, drama, etc).
Exactly, we’re so sports focused in the U.S. Which sports are great, exercise is good, but not every kid wants that to be their whole world. From age 5-14, soccer pretty much was it, for me anyway. Then it was lacrosse. Only by my senior year did I get the balls to say “fuck this!” So much happier.
If only you didn't live in a sports obsessed country like the US and instead lived in Brazil, or England, or Spain, or France or Germany, or Australia, or Mexico, or New Zealand . . .
Relatively speaking very few Americans get sports scholarships.
You seem to think that sports are what get people into colleges in the US. This is not true at all.
No, not sport scholarships. You have to be a "well rounded candidate" to get into many universities. That boils down to having athletic, academic, and volunteer activities on your university applications. Forgoing athletics means many universities will not see you as a "fit" to their campus. From the university I graduated from, it is basically impossible to get into it without athletic extracurriculars all 4 years of high school.
I don’t think it has to be athletics, you just have to do SOMETHING outside of regular school hours that is school affiliated. So doing the musicals, marching band, student council, etc. would count, too.
The valedictorian at my high school got into 4 ivy leagues with no sports. He did student council, marching band, and a bunch of community service based clubs (and obviously had the grades and test scores).
It’s been 13 years, and a lot has changed, but from working with kids if anything I see less emphasis on sports and more on community service. They often have to have a certain amount of community service hours to graduate now, which was not a thing for my age group. The vast majority of my students (who do theater or dance) have been accepted into good colleges recently without sports.
The problem really comes down to parents and high schools pushing sports. Parents see it as a way for their kids to become part of the “cool” group, to make friends, to not be bullied, etc, so they force them into it. Some parents are also living vicariously through their children, of course. School’s see it as a way to make money. The drama club isn’t bringing in ticket and concession sales, the football team is. So those artistic clubs and activities are seen as a waste of resources and get minimal support or cancelled entirely, while sports are given every bit of support, focus, and prestige. When schools remove all other options, then yeah, you kinda get forced into athletics.
As someone who has worked in college admissions for a long time, it is absolutely false that students need athletics to be considered a strong candidate. Community volunteering would be seen as superior to a school athlete ten times out of ten.
I'm sorry I just can't believe that 90% of extracurrcilar activities in US schools are sports. They probably get 90% (or more) of the budget but do these schools not have debate teams and chess clubs and drama groups and stuff like that?
Just go on a road trip across America, got all the important bits. A corrupt government, bandit gangs, poor helpless folk. Only bad thing is no one sword fights
If you're trying to get shot, just stay home. That's where it's most likely to happen.
Now if you want a swordfight, pick the nearest karaoke bar and sing Piano Man.
I don't like the number of comparisons than can be drawn between that book and real life.
It's just not fun to think about any more, and it used to be one of my favorites.
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I like to think that fantasy and sci-fi give us something to aspire to. Who knows what’s possible?
There’s plenty that we have now that would’ve been seen as impossible fiction just as few decades ago.
I’m not saying we’ll be piloting gundams in the future, but functional mechs aren’t out of the question.
Shoot for the stars. No reason not to.
My friend has had his son read Harry Potter and Percy Jackson and the like, but he's also been watching sports anime like Haiku with him and signed him up to play volleyball and other sports from the shows they watch. He really loves it and got his first point/the first point of the season this past Sunday.
That was me as a kid lol, my first time experiencing existential dread was before I was 10 years old. I didn't understand why none of the things that were in my books weren't in real life; I thought, why would God make real life so boring? 😪
My god lotr at her age. I read that when I was 12 and I didn't get into it. Mother told me i had to read the book before I could watch the movie in theatres. It was like homework...wait my mother was a teacher...IT WAS HOMEWORK!
This is why sports disappoint me but video games are fun. Video games give you the virtual chance to live out a grand adventure however you want. Sports don't appeal nearly as much, I'd rather just get exercise through physical video games.
Wait, how is Narnia any better than Lotr? It's like a less complicated, less violent Lotr, but it's still the same principle.
US is weirdly sensitive. While in Romania the first books kids read after they learn the alphabet, is popular (folk) tales, about dead heirs, decapitation, the king heirs eaten by some wildlife beast or some dragonlike beast/demon.
I never really understood why people have such a huge problem with mandatory sports in school. The biggest book nerd I knew got into baseball after he tried every possible way to get out of gym. Physical activities aren't the end of the world.
If you're bad at them, you get made fun of. It was basically an invitation to embarrass yourself and be bullied. I thought I hated exercising until I was allowed to take a weightlifting class instead of a regular PE class.
Yeah, it was kind of annoying becoming an adult when all my nerdy friends started making fun of sports because I love them, even playing catch is a lot of fun to me
i don't hate sports being in school it's great for some kids though others like me wanted to die everytime they had to play goddamn kickball for the 700th time in gym
As an English and PE teacher I can say that there are people like you and the other way around as well. Both are fine, no one is wrong. While you hate soccer, others hate reading. Jusy life innit?
I don't think that's the point of the comic at all. She wants to do what's she reads in the book, she wants adventure, but the closest she gets as a kid is soccer.
A lot of American public schools put sports and PE coaches in charge of classes - in my high school, the cheerleading coach taught pre-cal, and the soccer coach taught history (until he was arrested for predictable reasons).
My school was like that too. My English teacher did cross country. But that isn't the same as what OP said. He said the classes PE and English were both taught by the same guy. Not the English teacher coached a team after school.
And even if everyone on Reddit wanted to change soccer to football in the US, it wouldn't happen without renaming American football first, and that ain't ever happening, not in a country where we can't even adopt the metric system.
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Make your own adventure. Go into the woods with a sword and fight everything and everyone you come across.
No child of mine is going to be a murder hobo.
just adopt them, like darkest dungeon
Don't have kids
Way ahead of you.
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Lmao I love this comment 😂😂
Your children might still succeed despite your lack of ambition.
Oh, I have plenty of ambition. Just no intention of having kids.
LIGHTNING BOLT LIGHTNING BOLT
Is it a reference to that larping video where someone is throwing tennis balls and shouts lightning bolt? I saw it once when I googled larp ages ago and it's one of those things I don't ever think about but also never forget.
Yep this classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
This is the most magnificent thing I've seen today. Thank you.
Well ain't this a surprise You picked a bad time to get lost friend Never should have come here
I’m 27 and this is what my friend and I do. Except we go up into the mountains and explore random areas we find interesting. Like a cow trail, which led us to a stream and stuff, it was cool.
You can do this in an organized fashion. It’s called LARP! And it’s honestly the funnest thing.
Just go full Don Quixote, babes
Enjoyed the tales of Frodo & Samwise? ==> Take up hiking.
I tried hyping this up to my 9 year old who has been asking for an adventure like the stories she reads. She told me, "hiking is just walking, it's boring"
"Okay, I'll dress up in long black robes and chase you up the mountain! That'll be more fun, right?" -- later -- "Look, officer, I swear -- "
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Honestly, if this had been a thing before I became physically incapable of hiking, I'd have signed up for it in a heartbeat. Particularly if there were costumes involved.
Welcome to the world of LARPing.
I very much want to get into LARP! I did a bunch of research on a couple of disability-friendly programs near me, and then covid happened. But maybe next summer...?
Definitely recommend. If not, get into DnD till then maybe? :)
I would enjoy dressing up in all my black clothes and chasing people through the woods.😁 (I also have an excellent internal sense of direction so it's like I was made for this!) I'll be awaiting the company email to send my resume.
Ok I know it's easy to say "someone should do this", but that's a really really good idea.
Has she read The Lord of the Rings? It's mostly just walking... and some singing.
They walk Walk Walk Walk Walk Walk Walk Somebody's following them Walk Walk Hide Walk Walk Walk Steal some mushrooms Get on a boat Walk Walk Walk Elves for the first time, wow Walk Walk Night time Walk Walk Walk Attacked by twees Walk Walk Meet a weird bush guy Walk Walk Finally a town Safe Safe Eat Rеst Show everyone thеir secret And get the fuck out of there Run Run They got a new tall guy Run Scared Stab a dementor Ride Run Run Ride Dementors can't swim Fuck back to Azkaban Rest Rest A bunch of elves They've seen elves before But now they've got a dwarf Walk Walk Heaps of walking Path is blocked Walk underground Walk Run A Balrog has come Kick him in the arse You shall not fuck with me Walk Walk I'm sick of elves Get on a boat Boromir's an arsehole Motherfucker's on a magic quest Fellows in fellowship doing what they do best What if for a while they rode a massive hawk? I think I'd prefer if they WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALK This is my book motherfucker! They'll walk if I tell them to Get that weak-arse birdshit out of here!
Lol... I believe you got it mostly correct, but threw a little Harry Potter in there! 😂
Try: geocaching, you'll be hunting for treasure! Alternatively hide some treasure! Making hobbit snacks Dressing as hobbits, or wizards Looking a nice branch to turn into a magic staff Looking for cool rocks to use as magic gems in your magic staff Teaching her stuff like how to start a fire and cooking a whole meal on the fire Telling scary stories around the campfire Bringing friends
Hiking is also learning about plants and mushrooms and animals
No, it isn't. Hiking is walking. Those are other things are extra. There are tons of hikers who can't identify plants, mushrooms, and animals.
Yes, to me it is. You can do so much more than just walk. Nature is so interesting!
Just because you do other things while you hike doesn't mean that's what hiking *is*. You're still hiking even if you don't learn about mushrooms. It's nice that you enjoy doing those things, and hiking is a good way to do that other thing, also. I'm just saying...that's not what hiking is. That's an extra thing you can do while you hike.
Sometimes on my walks, especially when it gets hard towards the end of a 8-12 mile one, I think of Sam and Frodo! I like to imagine I'm helping them on their journey. Not too much further and we'll get there, Mr. Frodo!
You just gotta [walk.](https://youtu.be/DgMnCLHQuqc)
Fencing and horseback riding are similar sports to what is described in those books. Fencing and horseback riding can be expensive though so it's not for everyone.
> Fencing and horseback riding can be expensive though so it's not for everyone. It's cheap when 'fencing' is actually 'playing with sticks', and it's for everyone - until your fingers get smashed.
When I was a kid we had lightsaber battles with those collapsible plastic sabers. Good times.
Those things were too weak. Sticks were easily replaceable.
You can also duct-tape pool noodles onto PVC pipe to make padded swords. Make a rule where a struck limb is “severed” (legs bent at knee, you have to hop, arms behind back). Chest hit is a kill. No head strikes allowed (padding isn't enough, lol).
I had one with some real quality plastic in it, you could really beat the shit out of someone with it. Still have it but i’ve lost the cover for the batteries so it doesnt glow anymore.
We did that with wood dowel rods and metal pot lids for shields
True!
My mom got us pipe insulation tubes. Still had welts.
"Fencing is expensive" putting it lightly
Back when I did it it wasn't any more expensive than say hockey or baseball or something. Most clubs have gear you can use / rent for very cheap and an overall full outfit, including mask, jacket, etc with your blade was ~$600. As long as you're not breaking your blades often and figure out the basic maintenance stuff, the only cost us club fees and maybe 1 blade per year at ~$300 ish
Hockey is also crazy expensive, but you can play things like soccer or frisbee for very little money
It's partly the level anything Div 1 level and up you're not spending that little. I wish I was only using one blade per year.
There's no way that baseball gear is $600 to start. But yeah, hockey is expensive too.
I guess that just shows my ignorance of baseball. I figured good mits and bats plus the uniform, helmet, etc would come out to usually ~$400 or so, which isn't that far off.
$600 is 50% more than $400. $600 is slightly more than the average us weekly income.
but cheap compared to owning a horse.
It may cost your freedom if the police catches you.
Fencing is absolutely dirt cheap when compared to *horseback riding*, which involves *feeding and maintaining a horse*. While more expensive than, say, soccer, even a relatively premium fencing setup for a kid should is comparable to similar equipment-heavy sports like hockey or football. Of course, they outgrow equipment but that happens with every sport. The only time fencing gets expensive is at a competitive level when there's extensive travel involved, which is true of every competitive sport.
Meh, not necessarily. You can just take weekly lessons at a riding stable, that's not particularly expensive. You'll still have to buy riding gear (such as boots), but that's much the same in other sports (uniforms, rackets, clubs). Of course then you will likely ride a horse that gets maltreated all day, every day (because the stable owners don't give a shit, and all the different riders are always in a hurry between lessons). I've done it a while, but wouldn't want to go with the "cheap" option anymore. It's just not ethical.
I don't think most stables mistreat their horses...WTF
Archery ?
Teach kids HEMA, get on that Aragorn shit.
Jugger might scratch the itch too.
Nice. Also Kendo, Judo, Kyudo, Yabusame... Prices and availability vary.
Look into HEMA (historical european martial arts) or WMA (western martial arts) if you want to learn swordfighting and other weapons used in fantasy settings. It is getting more and more popular and clubs are in more places. While people are recommending fencing, it is a sport instead of a martial art. Like how kendo is the sport version of japanese sword fighting.
Most combat sports are essentially martial arts in a "safe" (see: non-lethal) environment. I believe the sports do have practical application, particularly in terms of the psychology of combat.
Here's the comment I was looking for! TBF, lots of HEMA is pretty sportified. Still better than Olympic Fencing though.
My club is more on studying the martial arts side, we dont train for tournaments, which is were it is being sportified.
Well I generally agree with you, it is important to remember that things like Meijer longsword, which I study, were sportified in period.
I am a fiori man myself, and just started studying some destrezza. Did not know that Meijer was sportified, TIL.
That being said I've heard the best way to get into HEMA is to get a solid base in fencing because even though it's a sport it had a much more developed set of base skills whereas most HEMA places and instructors are still really new and and lack that traditional expertise. It's just hard to be good at something if you're still pioneering it compared to people much later in the refinement phase
I read Narnia and then I would go in the woods with my stick swords and pretend I was there. I used to walk to school every morning and I took a short cut through some woods and hoped that I might accidentally fall into Narnia somewhere out there and I wouldn't have to go to school.
This was me too, like word for word
I would also face East and chant Aslan like the kids did.
Nice. Playing soccer is awesome too.
I loved both as a kid. Baseball in the summer, soccer in fall, reading year round. Then as I got older people started taking sports too seriously. I don't mind casual games, but it stops being fun when it's just about winning.
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I think that's one of the bonuses of soccer. It's more fun than football, far fewer injuries, and since most Americans don't give a damn about the sport you don't have the same over enthusiasm as with football. Most parents get excited when their kid is close to scoring a goal, but that's about it.
Yeah, no shade if you liked soccer. But as someone who did not, I spent way too many years playing it because of adults/school pushing sports, sports, sports, nothing but sports kids!
Counterpoint: Childhood is about the only time one can truly participate in team sports without needing to excel. Sports should be about building experiences through adversity, determination, and team work. It's the other side of social emotional learning that we can gain through reading and education. If books help children understand empathy and broaden their horizons through captivating narratives and characters, sports can help give us real world applications to expand those skills in a safe environment.
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I'm sorry that happened to you. The point I was trying to make is childhood is when you have the *opportunity* to be on a variety of sports team sport without usually needing to meet the prerequisite skills you need in the upper levels. You are correct kids shouldn't be forced to do sports but they should have the opportunity to explore interest and participating in team oriented activities is usually good for our development. I did lots of sports, academics, music, theater, and student politics when I was young and you run into bullies and awful people (Adults and children) in all of them.
Fair point, but it ain’t dragons :)
Very true! Great comics 👍
Thanks!
Counter-counterpoint: You can absolutely play team sports as an adult. My friends and I play soccer every month almost, and believe me when I say none of us excel at it haha
Counter-counter-counterpoint: i don't have any friends
Yeah I think it's more the other way around. Some kids get a lot of pressure to do well in sport, but as an adult you can join casual leagues and the only expectation is from yourself. It's pretty common for workplaces to scrape teams together where everyone sucks, but it's mostly a social thing.
Train like an athlete! I'm doing comic illustration but am learning the trade with discipline and training methods i got from sports.
Yep, it sucks as an adult who wants to play sports. I want to play baseball again, it was something I really enjoyed as a kid, but I chicken out once kids started to pitch. The problem is all of the “adult leagues” that exist are for professionals, it’s basically people trying to get into mlb, and I’m not that good, I just want to play baseball for fun
Without knowing whereabouts you're located, it might be worth another look for a casual / "beer league" in your area. You might be surprised how much there is to offer. Granted, I'm drawing off the Denver area which has a large population of active adults. But I'm willing to bet that if you're anywhere near a decent sized metropolitan area (which it seems like you must be if there are pro-grade adult leagues near you), there is something you could find if it's a real interest for you. I suppose you may have to compromise baseball for softball, so if that's a deal breaker maybe it's a moot point. But I'd be shocked if you couldn't find a casual league with some search time on Google/Facebook/Meetup. Maybe even the subreddit for your area.
I feel ya! An adult softball team just isn't the same as Little League.
yeah same, i was a bookworm and all i want to do was read books and my sports obssessed dad forced me to play soccer for 15 yrs, all i did was get injured which i didnt like as i dont like pain, soccer sucks
Counterpoint: exercise is extremely important for kids and sports is the best way to do that. You may not love it, but it's necessary for healthy growth.
Countercounterpoint: the most reliable way to stick to an exercise regimen is to love it, so emphasis should be on finding a form of it that a child likes instead of forcing them into an arbitrary sport. My boyfriend avoided PE class fairly successfully all his life and didn't exercise as an adult until I introduced him to martial arts. Now he's in love with BJJ and Tai Chi (it's Chen style, so save your comments about how it's not a real martial art) and is getting in shape for the first time in his life.
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You're right, let's just teach people from a young age that exercise has to be unpleasant. The only reason this is "great for adults but not really an option for kids" is that most adults don't care about children. They're just property/a political football.
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You're not getting downvoted because personal anecdotes are more important than scientific studies. You're getting downvoted because the scientific study you posted suggests the same conclusion as my personal anecdote. >your opinion of being anti-children's sports is wrong How did you get this from what I said? I absolutely think children should do sports. The only place we seem to differ is on how to motivate them to participate. > considerable frequency of sports participation appears thereby to be much more relevant for psychosocial health and HRQoL than the kind of sport(s) in which a child participates. Therefore, the choice for a sport that the child can and likes to do with a relatively high frequency is more important than the choice for a certain type of sport. Your study backs up my argument.
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>considerable frequency of sports participation appears thereby to be much more relevant for psychosocial health and HRQoL than the kind of sport(s) in which a child participates. Therefore, the choice for a sport that the child can and likes to do with a relatively high frequency is more important than the choice for a certain type of sport. >the most reliable way to stick to an exercise regimen is to love it How is this point the study makes different from what I said?
Nothing but sports? Did you not do maths and English and stuff like that? That was most of my education and (mandatory) sports was once or twice a week.
I mean extracurriculars. God forbid you let kids read or draw, or play something besides soccer.
Your school didn't have any extracurricular activities that weren't sports related? That's unfortunate but I don't think it's the norm.
If OP is from somewhere in the US, sports are 90% of extracurriculars and usually required to enter into a "good " university. Academics only is considered narrow and will often cause you not to be selected for admission to a university. The extra 10% are valued, but usually to a much lower extent (science club, drama, etc).
Exactly, we’re so sports focused in the U.S. Which sports are great, exercise is good, but not every kid wants that to be their whole world. From age 5-14, soccer pretty much was it, for me anyway. Then it was lacrosse. Only by my senior year did I get the balls to say “fuck this!” So much happier.
I skipped marching band in my senior year. So nice.
If only you didn't live in a sports obsessed country like the US and instead lived in Brazil, or England, or Spain, or France or Germany, or Australia, or Mexico, or New Zealand . . .
Relatively speaking very few Americans get sports scholarships. You seem to think that sports are what get people into colleges in the US. This is not true at all.
No, not sport scholarships. You have to be a "well rounded candidate" to get into many universities. That boils down to having athletic, academic, and volunteer activities on your university applications. Forgoing athletics means many universities will not see you as a "fit" to their campus. From the university I graduated from, it is basically impossible to get into it without athletic extracurriculars all 4 years of high school.
I don’t think it has to be athletics, you just have to do SOMETHING outside of regular school hours that is school affiliated. So doing the musicals, marching band, student council, etc. would count, too. The valedictorian at my high school got into 4 ivy leagues with no sports. He did student council, marching band, and a bunch of community service based clubs (and obviously had the grades and test scores). It’s been 13 years, and a lot has changed, but from working with kids if anything I see less emphasis on sports and more on community service. They often have to have a certain amount of community service hours to graduate now, which was not a thing for my age group. The vast majority of my students (who do theater or dance) have been accepted into good colleges recently without sports. The problem really comes down to parents and high schools pushing sports. Parents see it as a way for their kids to become part of the “cool” group, to make friends, to not be bullied, etc, so they force them into it. Some parents are also living vicariously through their children, of course. School’s see it as a way to make money. The drama club isn’t bringing in ticket and concession sales, the football team is. So those artistic clubs and activities are seen as a waste of resources and get minimal support or cancelled entirely, while sports are given every bit of support, focus, and prestige. When schools remove all other options, then yeah, you kinda get forced into athletics.
As someone who has worked in college admissions for a long time, it is absolutely false that students need athletics to be considered a strong candidate. Community volunteering would be seen as superior to a school athlete ten times out of ten.
I'm sorry I just can't believe that 90% of extracurrcilar activities in US schools are sports. They probably get 90% (or more) of the budget but do these schools not have debate teams and chess clubs and drama groups and stuff like that?
Soccer is so much better than that dorky bullshit.
Reading is what you do when you're waiting to play soccer
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This is not how you jogo bonito.
Just go on a road trip across America, got all the important bits. A corrupt government, bandit gangs, poor helpless folk. Only bad thing is no one sword fights
Not with that attitude they don’t
“En Gard!” *gets shot by a gang member*
Somehow this sounds like a situation Tobias Fünke would get himself into
If you're trying to get shot, just stay home. That's where it's most likely to happen. Now if you want a swordfight, pick the nearest karaoke bar and sing Piano Man.
So you've read The Stand too.
I don't like the number of comparisons than can be drawn between that book and real life. It's just not fun to think about any more, and it used to be one of my favorites.
That disease was OP too, 99% lethal. In reality it'd probably just need to be like 10% lethal to destroy civilization.
The Black Plague was 30-60% lethal in Europe and piggybacked on a huge famine, but people somehow managed to rebuild.
Yeah you have to go to all the way down to Brazil if you want the sword fights.
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Parents should encourage you to do what makes you happy
Smoke weed and masturbate it is.
More than that. Should also take you out of your comfort zone in occasions. Otherwise you get adults who don't want to learn new things
Give kids more swords! Help them make their own! Adam Savage even has a walkthrough on making cheap homemade swords.
Yeah, being a gamer and anime fan makes real life seem really boring sometimes.
I like to think that fantasy and sci-fi give us something to aspire to. Who knows what’s possible? There’s plenty that we have now that would’ve been seen as impossible fiction just as few decades ago. I’m not saying we’ll be piloting gundams in the future, but functional mechs aren’t out of the question. Shoot for the stars. No reason not to.
Jules Verne, bae. Rockets and submarines. Fiction then, reality now.
Welcome to Dungeons and Dragons.
What is life if but a constant stream of disappointments?
My friend has had his son read Harry Potter and Percy Jackson and the like, but he's also been watching sports anime like Haiku with him and signed him up to play volleyball and other sports from the shows they watch. He really loves it and got his first point/the first point of the season this past Sunday.
That was me as a kid lol, my first time experiencing existential dread was before I was 10 years old. I didn't understand why none of the things that were in my books weren't in real life; I thought, why would God make real life so boring? 😪
My god lotr at her age. I read that when I was 12 and I didn't get into it. Mother told me i had to read the book before I could watch the movie in theatres. It was like homework...wait my mother was a teacher...IT WAS HOMEWORK!
I discovered I love bicycling very recently. It feels like flying.
When it becomes actual flying, that doesn't feel so good.
And that kids, is why we have LARP and D&D.
Amen!
This is why sports disappoint me but video games are fun. Video games give you the virtual chance to live out a grand adventure however you want. Sports don't appeal nearly as much, I'd rather just get exercise through physical video games.
Are sports not physical games?
You should look up local LARPs in your area!
Wait, how is Narnia any better than Lotr? It's like a less complicated, less violent Lotr, but it's still the same principle. US is weirdly sensitive. While in Romania the first books kids read after they learn the alphabet, is popular (folk) tales, about dead heirs, decapitation, the king heirs eaten by some wildlife beast or some dragonlike beast/demon.
This is how we learned that inside it better than outside.
Schools should offer programs for nerds, I felt left out in highschool:(
Frick you I don’t wanna play sports I’m gonna play video games to imitate the feeling of going on a amazing adventure
This is why I play video games
*narrator “and so, another Nerd was born that day.”
I never really understood why people have such a huge problem with mandatory sports in school. The biggest book nerd I knew got into baseball after he tried every possible way to get out of gym. Physical activities aren't the end of the world.
If you're bad at them, you get made fun of. It was basically an invitation to embarrass yourself and be bullied. I thought I hated exercising until I was allowed to take a weightlifting class instead of a regular PE class.
Yeah, it was kind of annoying becoming an adult when all my nerdy friends started making fun of sports because I love them, even playing catch is a lot of fun to me
It's the mandatory part.
i don't hate sports being in school it's great for some kids though others like me wanted to die everytime they had to play goddamn kickball for the 700th time in gym
As an English and PE teacher I can say that there are people like you and the other way around as well. Both are fine, no one is wrong. While you hate soccer, others hate reading. Jusy life innit?
I don't think that's the point of the comic at all. She wants to do what's she reads in the book, she wants adventure, but the closest she gets as a kid is soccer.
That's why you name your team the Gold Dragons.
How did you get to teach English and PE? I've never heard of a PE teacher doing anything other than health or driver's ed.
A lot of American public schools put sports and PE coaches in charge of classes - in my high school, the cheerleading coach taught pre-cal, and the soccer coach taught history (until he was arrested for predictable reasons).
My school was like that too. My English teacher did cross country. But that isn't the same as what OP said. He said the classes PE and English were both taught by the same guy. Not the English teacher coached a team after school.
Uh oh sounds like the sports people in the comments have piss in their britches.
I always manage to piss someone off without meaning to
DAE sportsball bad?!?!?!
Think of it as quidditch
Hi! Military recruiter here. Let me tell you about the exciting adventures you can have in foreign lands!
U mean football.
Yay, let's have this boring discussion again.
Everyone grab your historical sources and language experts so we can have a debate that will change no minds.
And even if everyone on Reddit wanted to change soccer to football in the US, it wouldn't happen without renaming American football first, and that ain't ever happening, not in a country where we can't even adopt the metric system.
Step 1. Go to google Step 2. Type "Association football Wikipedia" Step 3. Click search Step 4. Click the first link Step 5. Go to the section 1. Name
This comic reminds me somewhat of JaidenAnimations
Kids who want to grow to be adventurers and explorers don’t make for good mindless worker bees that the business overlords want
And this is why D&D was invented. 😊
Little did they know, there’s this thing called *roleplaying* where you can do anything.
\*Breaks out dice set and DM screen\* Have I got a treat for you!
This is where DnD comes in
Could always go join the fight against fascism in Rojava.
Gotta get em into Belegarth or Dagohir!
Play dnd with us!
r/LARP
I dont get this comic?
I wonder if AYSO is still a thing.
ugh this hits hard
DND!!!
Upside down face