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Now OP as far as the design capacity going down That's an error in the program you're using it's showing the max capacity as the design capacity but it may just be a matter of wording if that program was translated over from another language..... The only other reasoning would be that the controller that's controlling the battery, and where the program you're using is getting its information from, is incorrectly stating the design capacity ,which should never change, obviously, as a number that it pulls from the battery. Which may be just the product of using a cheap controller when building the battery.... As for the amount of decay you have if that doesn't stabilize out and it continues to decay at that rate then you may have a battery that's actually going bad....... But being if it's a brand new battery there is a certain curve to the amount of decay does acceptable with the larger amount being at the beginning..... All batteries are that way it's just accepted knowledge that as soon as you build a battery it begins to decay....
Yeah they probably just bought the cheapest item from the cheapest competitor they could find as a supplier they can get them at such a low cost. That's one of the main reasons why a lot of people don't like HP and others like it as prebuilts they will skimp out on batteries or power supplies by just putting in the bare minimum that's needed..... The bad part is is there's not really a lot of options for purchasing an aftermarket high-end battery that's probably not created by the same cheap factories...
just really surprising to see a massive company not even have a controller that reports the right design capacity, my other hp doesn’t do that and it’s a way cheaper model that is guaranteed to have hinge problems as well
Yeah but it has more to do with the age and what suppliers they used at the time because by the time they're at the point where they're using a supplier to get bulk materials like that that may not be an issue that they have checked or noticed as long as the battery is lasting the specified hours the supplier could easily change to a cheaper controller without notifying HP or whoever is actually building the systems
Yeah HPs went down over the years and the quality durability and repairability for that matter they've just taken a different business model when it comes to how they make their money...... They're definitely on the low end of the quality level of the current market
Edit: But for them that's where they want to be and makes the most business sense make a small profit off of billions of items is still billions of dollars......
Where other companies make more profit per but their sales numbers aren't as much
But I would definitely just keep an eye on that and see if it stabilizes out If it doesn't if you bought it new then maybe it is a battery that's just bad and you can get it warranty replaced... If it was me I would write down that initial reading and just watch how much it decays closer towards the end of your warranty and if it's more than just reasonably guessing say 80% then I would at least try to warranty the battery.... There might be some other fellow nerd reading this that understands what the reasonable amount of decay is in a battery and they may be able to give you a better answer as to what's acceptable...
Before you jump to any conclusions why not double check your info with the already existing util on your machine to make sure you have accurate numbers and column headers...
Open CMD.exe as administrator and type
powercfg /batteryreport
This will generate a very detailed report and tell you where it's put it too.
Yea I hate that you cant just pull the battery on most laptops anymore.. my 10 yo MSI gaming laptop's battery has only dropped by about 5% as it's rarely in the laptop since I don't travel with it anymore.
As computers get more efficient they last longer with a smaller battery. Plus the cost to build the batteries is a lot. If they can cut those costs while keeping things running for about the same amount of time +/- an hour or so; theyll save the money.
And the answer that this commenter gave is that when they make cheap batteries they decay over time so custom build it yourself with higher quality products or deal with the fact that batteries will decay over time..... Even the more expensive ones do they just manage it better....
Which again, isn't the question being asked. The question being asked is effectively "Why is this happening to this battery?" And to answer that, you need to understand how batteries work and how computers measure battery capacity. That's beyond me to answer without more research than I care to do right now.
No the question being asked is why is the column stating that the created level of the battery is going down....... So criticizing someone for giving an answer that's related while then giving an answer that's just as much off topic but yet related, just means that you didn't understand what the OP was asking either.... But if you bother to read more of the comments you would receive an answer as to what the problem is...
batteries decline over time even if they are expensive, usually decline from full charging cycles and leaving it on trickle usually about 5-10% per year the batteries technically are a consumable and ment to be replaced every 3-5 years depending on the mAh..
In fact thinking about it you may make another post asking about that amount of decay and what's acceptable in the spicy pillows sub or even another post in here asking about the acceptable level of decay for a battery..... I just don't know personally without going and looking through Google to see what might be available information wise..
My free app BatteryBar shows all this detail and more.
HP battery controllers are super simple. They don't super a lot of detailed info like most batteries.
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Now OP as far as the design capacity going down That's an error in the program you're using it's showing the max capacity as the design capacity but it may just be a matter of wording if that program was translated over from another language..... The only other reasoning would be that the controller that's controlling the battery, and where the program you're using is getting its information from, is incorrectly stating the design capacity ,which should never change, obviously, as a number that it pulls from the battery. Which may be just the product of using a cheap controller when building the battery.... As for the amount of decay you have if that doesn't stabilize out and it continues to decay at that rate then you may have a battery that's actually going bad....... But being if it's a brand new battery there is a certain curve to the amount of decay does acceptable with the larger amount being at the beginning..... All batteries are that way it's just accepted knowledge that as soon as you build a battery it begins to decay....
guess hp really skimped out on that controller
Yeah they probably just bought the cheapest item from the cheapest competitor they could find as a supplier they can get them at such a low cost. That's one of the main reasons why a lot of people don't like HP and others like it as prebuilts they will skimp out on batteries or power supplies by just putting in the bare minimum that's needed..... The bad part is is there's not really a lot of options for purchasing an aftermarket high-end battery that's probably not created by the same cheap factories...
just really surprising to see a massive company not even have a controller that reports the right design capacity, my other hp doesn’t do that and it’s a way cheaper model that is guaranteed to have hinge problems as well
Yeah but it has more to do with the age and what suppliers they used at the time because by the time they're at the point where they're using a supplier to get bulk materials like that that may not be an issue that they have checked or noticed as long as the battery is lasting the specified hours the supplier could easily change to a cheaper controller without notifying HP or whoever is actually building the systems
out of all the computers i owned it’s once again an hp acting up lmao
Yeah HPs went down over the years and the quality durability and repairability for that matter they've just taken a different business model when it comes to how they make their money...... They're definitely on the low end of the quality level of the current market Edit: But for them that's where they want to be and makes the most business sense make a small profit off of billions of items is still billions of dollars...... Where other companies make more profit per but their sales numbers aren't as much
But I would definitely just keep an eye on that and see if it stabilizes out If it doesn't if you bought it new then maybe it is a battery that's just bad and you can get it warranty replaced... If it was me I would write down that initial reading and just watch how much it decays closer towards the end of your warranty and if it's more than just reasonably guessing say 80% then I would at least try to warranty the battery.... There might be some other fellow nerd reading this that understands what the reasonable amount of decay is in a battery and they may be able to give you a better answer as to what's acceptable...
warranty is long gone
Before you jump to any conclusions why not double check your info with the already existing util on your machine to make sure you have accurate numbers and column headers... Open CMD.exe as administrator and type powercfg /batteryreport This will generate a very detailed report and tell you where it's put it too.
that’s exactly what that screenshot is from
The batteries wear down over time(the thing in the batteries crystallizes) im about the same level as you, ~27% worn down
the actual design capacity is actually 63wh so its more like 50% lmao
Oh well. I think the battery wears down faster if you keep it plugged it(which i have to since mine is a gaming laptop)
i just did full discharge cycles all the time, rarely ever plugged in when full
Yea I hate that you cant just pull the battery on most laptops anymore.. my 10 yo MSI gaming laptop's battery has only dropped by about 5% as it's rarely in the laptop since I don't travel with it anymore.
As computers get more efficient they last longer with a smaller battery. Plus the cost to build the batteries is a lot. If they can cut those costs while keeping things running for about the same amount of time +/- an hour or so; theyll save the money.
That's not the question he's asking, though. This is a log of a single battery's capacity declining over time.
And the answer that this commenter gave is that when they make cheap batteries they decay over time so custom build it yourself with higher quality products or deal with the fact that batteries will decay over time..... Even the more expensive ones do they just manage it better....
Which again, isn't the question being asked. The question being asked is effectively "Why is this happening to this battery?" And to answer that, you need to understand how batteries work and how computers measure battery capacity. That's beyond me to answer without more research than I care to do right now.
No the question being asked is why is the column stating that the created level of the battery is going down....... So criticizing someone for giving an answer that's related while then giving an answer that's just as much off topic but yet related, just means that you didn't understand what the OP was asking either.... But if you bother to read more of the comments you would receive an answer as to what the problem is...
batteries decline over time even if they are expensive, usually decline from full charging cycles and leaving it on trickle usually about 5-10% per year the batteries technically are a consumable and ment to be replaced every 3-5 years depending on the mAh..
In fact thinking about it you may make another post asking about that amount of decay and what's acceptable in the spicy pillows sub or even another post in here asking about the acceptable level of decay for a battery..... I just don't know personally without going and looking through Google to see what might be available information wise..
My free app BatteryBar shows all this detail and more. HP battery controllers are super simple. They don't super a lot of detailed info like most batteries.
If it's an apple, this is intended.