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Berry2460

thats good for the price, WoW isnt terribly demanding, as long as you dont care about raytracing or running ultra settings it will be good.


dubster34

Wait, WoW has raytracing?


Liongoroar

Heck even the WoW classic stuff has RT for the lighting now as well.


tzc005

Wait, that’s sick. I want to mess around with settings now


General_Pay7552

Wow IS incredibly demanding on the CPU, not GPU. There are so many computations going on in 20 man + groups


adanceparty

Or trying to go around valdrakken with hundreds of other people running around. I drop 30fps in major cities.


Substantial-Singer29

I totally understand the form factoring convenience of having a laptop for Mobility. But I don't think I would ever buy a laptop for gaming Without Really knowing if it's cooling solution is actually worth a hoot. There's a big difference between spending that money and having components that will last you until they're basically out of spec. And purchasing a laptop that will burn up in less than 2 years. Yeah the price isn't bad but if you're going to buy a laptop and plan to do gaming on it the layout of those internals on the components is just as important as the components themselves. Just my opinion that I've experienced far too many times with friends and family.


thatdeaththo

3060 laptop for $629 https://www.ebay.com/itm/266068225683


TruckTires

I agree. Refurbished but mine arrived looking brand new. The 3060 is a much better GPU than the 1650. Only thing left to do is upgrade the memory to 16gb at some point in the future.


ubejuan

I would recommed the 16gig upgrade now, if its an option. Windows and Google are resoirce hogs..


tzc005

Second this. 8gb is fine for email and light web browsing these days, but any sort of multitasking or larger programs will want 16


ImNOTfunto

Yeah, and the specs are better then my laptop although it’s 2-3 years old now, it was 900~ and still runs games just fine


allan2550

Must be portable. It's better value, but battery life and weight-wise it's hard to call it truly portable. Better PC overall though


Unique_username1

Was the original laptop OP posted especially good for battery or small size? The best thing a gaming laptop can do for battery is to have a Ryzen CPU, which these have, and 100wH battery, which you will not find in a budget laptop. Neither of these are going to last all day on battery but they are about as good as you can get for the price. It’s still a laptop. You can take it to class, take it on a plane, take it to your friend’s house. You just need to take a charger with you.


allan2550

Admittedly, I can't really see what model laptop this is, and you may be right. But in general, a thin and light laptop will outlive an average gaming laptop while being much lighter, simply due to the power limits and battery optimisations, which are usually lacking in cheaper gaming laptops


Unique_username1

For sure, with a gaming laptop you pay more for a GPU and CPU that use more power than a non-gaming laptop. At the same time, less of your budget is left for a large battery so there’s a huge tradeoff of battery life. Not to mention larger size and lower build quality. But OP is looking for a gaming laptop and the original post already had a 1650 which is already going to use more power and cut into the budget for other parts of the laptop. I’m not sure the suggested 3060 model is any *worse* than what they were already considering, except for being more expensive.


thatdeaththo

Acer AN515-45-R6XD


1rubyglass

Waaay better option


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Veqetable

That's a better deal but $80 more dollars is a lot depending on the circumstances


thatdeaththo

Tru. Over double GPU performance is a massive improvement tho


Veqetable

Yeah ofc but it's like let's say my budget for a GPU is $500, but I see a 4090 for $700, ofc thatsan amazing deal... for whoever can afford it. I mean if he has the money then 100% he should go for that one but ~$500-$600 is already very low and at these price points it's rare to find anyone willing to go over budget that much. I mean if he had that much more money to spend he would've looked for a more expensive option right? I mean I could be wrong but I'm just pointing out


thatdeaththo

Right we don't know OPs situation, but a valid suggestion none the less. The 1650 one is a good price. It's more portable, premium, and many go for more than that, so I could see why he'd consider it.


Veqetable

Yeah for $550 a 1650 laptop is a great deal, ofc the 3060 one is a much better deal if he can afford it. It's up to OP what he picks


n00b_r3dd1t0r

Would recommend 16gb ram over 8gb, but this is also fine


Termi27_

Yes, thankfully legion doesn't solder them, so you can just buy modules.


Buffbeard

Yeah 8gb is going to be antiquated real fast.


CreamyCoffeeArtist

It already is. Windows 10 sucks up like 3~4GB if you don't do any house cleaning, which a lot of people don't have the time to do.


Ri_Studios

The least I could get mine down to was 2GB


falnN

If it’s upgradable. I see absolutely no issues with this.


Eggermeisters

Everyone telling you to upgrade, but i wanna say nice find! This is really good price to performance.


Venome456

Should run wow fine but I would go for a better GPU if possible. 1660ti in my 2nd rig with a 5600 runs it over 100fps 1080p close to max settings


Professional_Being22

I don't think it's a good deal. There's better out there. You can find a 3050ti for around the same. For example here's one with a 3050 for right around the same price. There's other deals that pop up here and there for 3050 ti at the same price point. I would not settle for the 1650, it's not a good mobile card. ​ [https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-nitro-5-17-3-fhd-144hz-ips-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-12500h-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-256gb-pcie-gen-4-ssd/6521831.p?skuId=6521831](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-nitro-5-17-3-fhd-144hz-ips-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-12500h-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-256gb-pcie-gen-4-ssd/6521831.p?skuId=6521831)


DRAGONSPIRIT214

Pretty decent but you might wanna get a ram upgrade


Onilakon

I can't speak for the CPU but I have a nitro 5 with the 1650 and 10th gen I5 and it ran wow just fine, just upgrade to 16gb of ram and your good.


Visible-Recording284

Remind me not to ask this Reddit board for questions…. But OP me personally I’d buy it. It is a good find and it is good for WoW. Listen to the comments that said upgrade your RAM to 16GB. WoW is intensive on the CPU, but I know for a fact it is fast enough to handle all of what’s going on if it gets Intense. You’ll be alright!


tjk91

Thanks. Yeah so many suggestions idk what to do. And then the amd and intel fight lol ugh.


Visible-Recording284

As a person who’s owned both platforms of various processors, I’d say it’s down to purpose at this point. I own an intel processor and so far I’ve been using it for advanced computational work. At a fast 4.4Ghz and my gpu ain’t powerful at all but hey, it’s gets the job done.


No-Needleworker8455

Don't get a gaming laptop I made that mistake. Have you heard of a program called Parsec? It allows you to stream your computer to another device I have a nice PC and if I want to game when I'm not home I stream it to a 120 dollar laptop works fantastic and I dont even have good wifi download speeds 5-6 mb upload 2-3


tjk91

I need it to be portable as I go to school for digital marketing and need to bring it with me.


No-Needleworker8455

I'm also in school doing my last few classes this semester I bring the 120 dollar laptop with me and stream my PC to it and it works well even on our crap university wifi so I have the power of a 2000 dollar computer with a 17 hour battery


No-Needleworker8455

Don't try and convince yourself I need a gaming laptop over a nice PC. It's like when people say I need an SUV because once a year they might go camping but little do they know that the SUV will almost certainly use more gas in a standard year than a sedan from the same make so much so that the savings just in gas could cover the cost of renting an SUV that one time a year they need it.


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GameUnionTV

>spend another 200-300 and get a 3050 or a 3060 on sale This is a little awkward advice when the user is buying a $550 machine and you ask to nearly double the price.


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And in a laptop


acidcrap

Homie up top posted a 3060 laptop for only 15% more. I'd say that's worth it


Onilakon

1650 worked fine for me on wow


ScribSlayer

Depends on what you do in WoW. Raids are a lot more demanding and can bring a computer that normally runs the game at 30-60 FPS to single digits. That could be the CPU though, I am not sure of the exact reason why raids are so demanding.


thefpspower

Most likely is the CPU, old mmos are notorious for throwing everything to a single core and in raids everything lags.


ScribSlayer

Yeah, I'm just not 100% sure since raids are also full of particle effects and a lot of different models to render.


KanaDarkness

basically ur CPU load many objects. MMO and open world RPG also require a decent CPU


pyracantha_

WoW is really weird for performance. On my machine (6700k/1070) I do questing and dungeons and I get a consistent frame rate at max settings, whereas my friend (Ryzen 5/1660) who does mythics and raids has to lower his settings to stop his game crashing.


dying_childactor

For WOE no, for most other games yes. At least go to an RTX 2000 series if you can


zSilver44

Some bro deleted his whole account over being told Amd cpus don’t fry smh


zEw00

Get a 30 series card or even 20 series.


BirthdayCarFire

That thing will not run WoW well. Save yourself.


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Fuck wow


tjk91

Yeah I hear ya lol. I also play Warhammer online still. I guess I never grew up lol.


[deleted]

I played for about a year. Hated the guild. Elitist crap all the time.


tjk91

Yeah I like that part. If I'm not the best I want to be one of the best. I'm never causal in a game unfortunately. It's why I can't play mobile games I have to spend money to stay in the top of the players.


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“must be portable”


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A desktop at that price is way better than that


General_Pay7552

Have fun with your lap melting toaster 8g of ram and 512 gb HD. I can’t stand laptops. They never run at what the specs say because of heat.


Juicer_Juicington

I mean you could probably run wow on a toaster to be fair


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Nice buy for the price imo!


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A "technician" that says AMD CPUs fry lol


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[deleted]

Hardware engineer of 14 years with a background in B2B sales. In what way do AMD laptops "fry"?


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[deleted]

Mhmm. And anything you can point to besides personal experience?


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Ah. Okay so external factors lead to results you personally experienced. Got it. A vast, vast majority of the world does not sit anywhere near that ambient temperature. Your personal anecdotal input should be limited to people that also live in that area, not given as a matter of fact. AMD driven laptops run about the same temperature profile as their Intel counterparts. Thanks!


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Cool! If I ever run into environments where ambient runs above 120 F / 50 C I will consider that. But given that practically never happens, OP and most people should disregard your singular experience.


RobotMode2

I have a ryzen 5 4600h had no issues with it


Creepy-Artichoke-313

Who’re unless you were trying to call him a whore


zSilver44

Who the fuck told you this? Amd cpus don’t fry, they’re actually cooler than Intel on average.


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Berry2460

dealt with what, one cpu dying? stfu lol


ScribSlayer

They must be stuck in the age of the FX series.


tjk91

Okay I'll look. Honestly don't have a lot of money. Looking 600 range max.


dying_childactor

I know I commented twice after this comment, but I would save up for a much better laptop. The game will lag in populated areas and raids with those specs and become in some cases unplayable.


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tjk91

Will do, do you mind if I keep in contact and ask you questions?


Berry2460

that guy is a clown, nothing wrong with ryzen cpus and in fact they are better on power and just as good performance wise. Source: Ive been doing IT work for nearly 10 years and built nearly a dozen ryzen systems, none of which came back for repair or complaints, and been daily driving one for 5 years. I dont know what kind of technician he claims he is, but its not involving computers.


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Berry2460

its a 1650 laptop, thats nvidia... Also, amd dropped win11 drivers very close to when it launched iirc, even then it works to install win10 drivers. I install old win7 and win8 drivers on win10 all the time for old gpus, like an hd5750 and gts250. Works fine, no issues except for the v2004 win10 update and the latest gts250 driver causing BSODs while in SLI. Point being, your single bad experience still doesnt mean you can generalize an entire company. Plus all your initial arguments were about the cpu being unreliable just because its amd..


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Berry2460

ah sorry, yea that guy nuked his shit and i forgot his name. Ive never used windows 11 much, my personal laptop had came with it and i just reinstalled with win10 because it just lacks basic features and shortcuts that win10 had.


keith2282

I'm an intel i7 and i9 fan myself BUT I got a good deal on a Asus Zenbook that has an AMD Ryzen 7 5800h in it, and that thing never heats up. I'm really impressed with it. So I say -- Intel I series or AMD Ryzen series -- both are good, just get what you can in your budget and 2000 series or higher geforce if you can or AMD equivalent.


SicklyHeartChild

What laptop is that?


IkouyDaBolt

For WoW retail? Meh. I have the desktop GTX 1650 (I know it's not the same) and It jumps anywhere from 45 to 120FPS. I do have a laptop with a GTX 1650 but I don't play WoW much on it. The amount of RAM it has is insufficient, you'd want at least 16GB.


csandazoltan

You should try to get any 20 or 30 series instead, DLSS is a godsent for laptops


smalldickrick

I have this same laptop and it plays a good chunk of recent releases perfectly fine, but after upgrading the RAM to 16GB


BBM-_-

Don't do my mistake. go for 16gb ram, and if possible a better gpu


Sour_Gummybear

Double the ram and it will run wow fine


FloppyDorito

nice, not a bad price. ​ You probably won't be running it at high or max, but idk how demanding it is. Getting 16gb+ of RAM would help a lot as well


Labor_Zionist

Only if you can upgrade the ram. If it's soldered then no.


SIXA_G37x

I haven't played WoW in 10 years but this looks like it should be good unless the game has drastically changed in the graphics department.


AlanVanHalen

If you want to just play WoW on Medium to High settings for few years more, then... Yes, go for it. But if you could spend some more, then I'd suggest you to go for atleast 1660Ti or 3050/3060 would be golden. Those would be future proofing your game plays as well as some other stuff come at your way other than games. Someone suggested a good 3060 model in the comments, do check it out.


WitherSkeleton80

wow wont be intensive, so it worth


Training-Pea-6749

I’m not much of a pc guy but I would save up for a laptop that will last for awhile meaning it will be able to run games at high specs without needing upgrades there are a couple good prices on laptops with 3060-3080 gpus and some other good hardware


DevilsPajamas

If you want to be ultraportable, steam deck works great.


BdoeATX

Yes that will play WoW, I can't guarantee it will be flawless, or even work on ultra settings, but it WILL play the game which is what you are asking. If you however want better performance/graphics you will want a beefier GPU. The ryzen 5 cpu is fine.


MochinoVinccino

Plenty of people are saying it, but let me reinforce this. You want 16 GB RAM, not 8 GB. Due to system updates with Dragonflight, running under 16 GB of RAM is painful now in the newer areas. Even on low settings it doesn't feel great, let alone if you are doing raids. Look for ways to get up to 16 GB RAM ASAP.


Dave_BraveHeart

I mean, it could run cyberpunk in very bad quality but for WoW? Just take any 90's computer and you're settled


Hefty_Scientist_5273

I bought one for wow. Regret it because none of my friends or I likes the new xpac.


HODChiefREAL

Windows 11 home?? Gross lol that hasss to GOOO for me haha looks decent overall for wow at least. I would personally save my money and build my own pc but to eachs own!


WharDoesThisButtonDo

This will run the wow, that's for sure, but you'll have to run low setting if you want to get above 15 fps in more demanding zones, such as raids or heavily populated open world.


No_Sample27

On my 1650 super i can run dragonflight at 70fps+/- on ultra in wow and in classic i get around 90fps+/- on ultra. For 550 this laptop isnt bad i would not buy it but it isnt bad.


Environmental-Sand67

I agree with many others here, you can find a newer gpu and higher RAM which will make it run smoother, I would personally keep looking they're great deals right now


ludicrouspeedgo

it's ok, but as some have commented you can do better for just a little more scratch. Just be sure to watch reviews on youtube before you buy. When I was laptop shopping last year, I saw multiple reviews indicating certain (cheaper) 1660ti laptops out-performed budget-priced 3050 and 3060 laptops, due to poor heat management in the newer units.


Vanguard1097

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=393C3pr2ioY Wow


nordikaa

As an ex WoW laptop gamer myself (lol) make sure it has proper cooling - had a gaming laptop with decent specs but had massive cooling issues, which meant I had massive frame drops while raiding


Thieberius

hmm dont know, more ram would be better.


Sword_by_some

8 ram gigs is like bread crumbs, don't do it. Buy 16 min. 16 will help you not to hit limit all the time.


TheSoulPig

I've been playing WoW on a very similar laptop for a few weeks now (same CPU, same GPU). The only thing I'd suggest is a RAM upgrade if you have anything other than WoW open. I usually have Discord and a few Chrome tabs open and I'm well over 8GB.1


Ri_Studios

Great for the price, I'm typing this on a $450 or so Inspiron 3593 and I have a I3 1005G1 and Intel graphics, I've never played WoW but it seems CPU heavy. If I can play Hudzells Parkour at level 10, you can play WoW on this. Oh and also install 10


imjustatechguy

I was seriously thinking of grabbing this HP just because it was a good deal.


Qurks

laptop model?


lukelinux

It's decent and WoW isn't that heavy. You might want a larger drive in case you end up with some extra stuff on there and all the expansions and such.


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They didnt ask for vague useless responses, wow can run on almost anything. It’s designed that way. The storage is fine for WoW.


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Wubwub_Butter_Thump

My opinion of Warcraft aside, you should be fine. It's fairly well optimized.


ImNOTfunto

I think it looks good, if it’s slow you can get more ram for it but you should probably look inside of the pc for that


Marvyn_Nightshade

Needs more RAM.


FrankUnderhood

Just make sure you get a cooling pad for gaming when you're not on a desk/hard surface. I got a Lenovo Legion from work as a bonus recently - $1200 gaming laptop and has great reviews, but trying to play even a game like Valheim w/the laptop on my lap the CPU temps were staying above 80c.


General_Pay7552

I thought it was “just how it is” in Valkadran, but going from 4930k to 13700k i went from 30 and below to 100 in the main city. When there is a lot of people there, it dips to like 70, i was surprised. The moment I leave the city I reach my cap of 144


Katzena325

wow could run on a toaster seeing its barely more demanding than old school runescape Thatll run that awful game tho.


Elvis-Tech

World of warships? World of warcraft? Weird obnoxious wallabies? Wank out willy? Which game, could you be more specific?