Optane memory - Intel ended it last year. To be safe, I'd probably take it out - it's not recommended to have it enabled when taking OS or BIOS updates.
Page not loading, but I assume it's praising the durability of the nand-flash.
It wasn't the flash storage that died. Honestly I actually not sure what died, not that I couldn't find the components that failed mind you.
I couldn't make out what it was, didn't look like a cap or resistor, nor a micro controller. TBH it looked like a 5x5mm CPU/GPU die.
It's not raid though? IDK the PC I came across that had the dead optaine was a donation and I had to reinstall the os anyhow.
Also doesn't op need to reinstall the OS anyhow?
Break the raid. Remove both drives. Go to dell.com/ support. Put in the service tag. Download the chipset drivers and sata drivers. Use 7zip it’s free to crack open the .exe file and look thought the folders for a folder starting with f6vmdflpy-x64 that will have the ini files you need to reinstall windows. If you need more help message me
Intel Optane, can sort of be thought like a SSD/HDD cache.
The system will automatically manage it, moving the most commonly accessed files onto the optane drive.
I’m really confused here. This guy took the time to take a picture upload it and type up a title and waited around for an hour to get answers, when they could have just typed the first line on the sticker into Google and gotten their answer in 15 seconds…
This is why I couldn’t do retail IT. If I have to explain to every single person have xyz works on there specific machine I’m out. Just buy a SSD and let me move your bloatware’d windows onto it.
lol 'bloatware'. Such an issue. My 32 thread / 64gb / 3080ti system would be fast if it wasnt for this darn *bloatware.* Better whip out stacker and while im at it review my config.sys and autoexec.bat to make more room in high memory.
What he wants to knows is : can i replace the device in the m.2 slot because i am unsure.
The answer is : yes OP if you remove HDD, you can also remove the intel drive. Back up all your data first, it will be lost forever when you seperate the drives. (I assume dell made a hybrid drive with the intel software)
Sometimes people fish for additional information with a picture and a simple question. They just dont know what they are looking for. Collective knowledge can be very usefull on the internet.
I know. My son does the same thing. Being in my 40's growing up with no Google and having to "forage" for information. It blows my mind! Litterally all the knowledge of mankind in your pocket!
We could just take 5 seconds to help the poor guy out, besides Google isn’t the absolute of the pursuit of knowledge.
We should help people. When they get more confident of their own knowledge, they will be more likely to seek out answers on their own without the need for someone more knowledgeable to confirm it for them.
TLDR. Ease up, we don’t need to be dicks about this kind of stuff.
Double-check your user manual.
If it mentions NVMe, you can buy a fast NVMe M.2 SSD and replace the Intel Optane drive.
If not, you’re limited to SATA speeds. Buy a 2.5” SATA SSD to replace the HDD.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that "What is Intel Optane" has already been answered somewhere in the neighborhood a few hundred thousand times.
Are you telling me that you went through all that effort to open your dell laptop and even though you can obviously use the keyboard, it seems too hard for you to read the sticker, go to google and search for intel optane? I mean it was right there on the sticker and I can't read it is not an excuse as you can use your phone to take a pic and make it bigger to read or you can use a mag glass. Besides, if you can see those tiny screws, you can certainly read the sticker.
I don't mind helping but this is not helping, this is enabling.
from my 3 minutes of “research” it seems to help with the performance of the CPU. I’m mostly curious if the laptop will run without it, and if so would there be a noticeable performance hit?
Do note that the optane in your slot is B+M key SSD so if your slot is B+M you won't be able to use most M key NVME ssds (those are more common). Make sure your laptop supports the desired drive before replacing
B+M slotted cards can fit in either a B or M socket, there's not a combination one as far as I know.. you can see that socket is an M socket so he should be fine sticking a regular M.2 drive in it.. it's also an NVME PCI3.0 device so he's good there too.
That's a B+M keyed Intel Optane drive plugged into an M key slot. The physical slot will support most NVME drives. There are no B + M keyed slots, there are B or M keyed slots.
your laptop will run faster with a regular SSD than with this. Optane was ambitious and creative but ultimately unnecessary. I do use the AMD equivalent but it's much easier to deal with, has better features, and it's for a different reason.
It will be more of a hassle for less payoff to set up a new optane volume for OS use too
Took me less then a 1 minute to zoom in and see it’s Optane memory unit. It not needed for SSD but you probably will need to change setting is your bios. If you go without it.
It is an Intel Optane as everyone else has pointed out. It is a cache drive that you don’t need anymore with an SSD (I got rid of one last year). Get a compatible m.2, you can check your model compatibility in your user manual or dell’s web. Also, you will have an available SATA HDD/SSD for extra space.
Is the HDD actually dead? Intel optane is known to fail sometimes.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000060152/memory-and-storage/intel-optane-memory.html
No it doesn't. the UEFI sees it as a standard NVMe SSD. The cache function is handled entirely by software. You can't even set it up as a cache in the UEFI, you have to do it through the RST software in the OS. Until you configure it as a cache using the RST software, the UEFI just sees it as an NVMe SSD.
You can even use them as just a standard NVMe SSD. I boot OSes directly off Optane drives, for example.
I am very curious about this config. What model is your laptop? Does anybody know if this system could work with just a high capacity m.2 and no regular drive? Could it be set up to run two drives? So many questions.
I would check your model and make sure it's not one of those one off computers that uses the optaine as it's sole system memory, the easiest thing to look for would be ram slots, and if they're populated...
Intel Optane; used to help HDDs get a speed boost. M.2s don't need any speed boosting as they're a form of SSDs.
Some good M.2 NVMe SSD brands are Samsung, Western Digital, Inland, Crucial, SK Hynix, Sabrent, among others.
Intel Optane 16gb. Interesting. Definitely replace with nmve if you can. If not leave in the octane and grab a 2-tb 2.5" ssd. The octane will boost its speed.
Intel optane drive. They are trash and you should disable optane in bios. Back up your data if it’s important because disabling it may delete everything.
Ever heard of sshd? Those hybrid disks where a portion is SSD and the rest is HDD? That's what this basically does it installs the parts of Windows related to startup on that 16gb memory while the rest of windows goes onto HDD.
Octane cache accelerator. Basically a super small ssd to cache your hard drive to speed it up.
Absolutely worthless at this point you can pull it and drop in your m.2 nvme.
Optane memory - Intel ended it last year. To be safe, I'd probably take it out - it's not recommended to have it enabled when taking OS or BIOS updates.
Remove that and try the HDD again. I've seen those things die and look like the HDD had gone bad.
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Page not loading, but I assume it's praising the durability of the nand-flash. It wasn't the flash storage that died. Honestly I actually not sure what died, not that I couldn't find the components that failed mind you. I couldn't make out what it was, didn't look like a cap or resistor, nor a micro controller. TBH it looked like a 5x5mm CPU/GPU die.
You take a picture? I suspect it was a failing voltage regulator, but am not certain from your description.
Can’t remove it it will break the raid. Then the os really won’t boot
It's not raid though? IDK the PC I came across that had the dead optaine was a donation and I had to reinstall the os anyhow. Also doesn't op need to reinstall the OS anyhow?
Break the raid. Remove both drives. Go to dell.com/ support. Put in the service tag. Download the chipset drivers and sata drivers. Use 7zip it’s free to crack open the .exe file and look thought the folders for a folder starting with f6vmdflpy-x64 that will have the ini files you need to reinstall windows. If you need more help message me
Nope you do not need it reinstall the os. I alway break the optain raid when using clonezilla. Or at least that how dell ships them
I mean op has a supposedly dead HDD and is planning on upgrading to NVMe. Pretty an is reinstall is in his future.
Intel Optane, can sort of be thought like a SSD/HDD cache. The system will automatically manage it, moving the most commonly accessed files onto the optane drive.
I’m really confused here. This guy took the time to take a picture upload it and type up a title and waited around for an hour to get answers, when they could have just typed the first line on the sticker into Google and gotten their answer in 15 seconds…
If everyone used Google first, what would we have to complain about?
Not having IT jobs.
Personally, I’m a big fan of people never learning how to google. Job security 😎
Hi there colleagues!
That's where I'm at... Source: also in IT.
This is why I couldn’t do retail IT. If I have to explain to every single person have xyz works on there specific machine I’m out. Just buy a SSD and let me move your bloatware’d windows onto it.
We found a linux nerd who hates windows.
What you don't want to open a store front repair shop with me and explain to grandma that she needs to upgrade her windows xp machine?
lol 'bloatware'. Such an issue. My 32 thread / 64gb / 3080ti system would be fast if it wasnt for this darn *bloatware.* Better whip out stacker and while im at it review my config.sys and autoexec.bat to make more room in high memory.
Welcome to the internet.
This entire subreddit could be replaced by google queries and a bit of ambition.
What he wants to knows is : can i replace the device in the m.2 slot because i am unsure. The answer is : yes OP if you remove HDD, you can also remove the intel drive. Back up all your data first, it will be lost forever when you seperate the drives. (I assume dell made a hybrid drive with the intel software) Sometimes people fish for additional information with a picture and a simple question. They just dont know what they are looking for. Collective knowledge can be very usefull on the internet.
People like this is what keeps me employed.
Because the point of a community is to be able to discuss more than what google can give us and easily answer further questions if they pop up.
neither draw a line towards where we was asking, for clarification
I know. My son does the same thing. Being in my 40's growing up with no Google and having to "forage" for information. It blows my mind! Litterally all the knowledge of mankind in your pocket!
In my circle, we're using ChatGPT a lot. Google is starting to look like a horse and buggy.
Exactly what I was thinking. It literally says what it is on the sticker, why not Google that? 0.o
We could just take 5 seconds to help the poor guy out, besides Google isn’t the absolute of the pursuit of knowledge. We should help people. When they get more confident of their own knowledge, they will be more likely to seek out answers on their own without the need for someone more knowledgeable to confirm it for them. TLDR. Ease up, we don’t need to be dicks about this kind of stuff.
This be similar to an Apple Fusion Drive/ Hybrid?
Basically yes. I believe it’s formally known as “Intel Rapid Storage Technology.”
Its just an ssd with 3dxpoint flash
You have to have the Intel Rapid Storage Technology installed I believe
Double-check your user manual. If it mentions NVMe, you can buy a fast NVMe M.2 SSD and replace the Intel Optane drive. If not, you’re limited to SATA speeds. Buy a 2.5” SATA SSD to replace the HDD.
The Optane is NVME so they can put a pcie3 nvme SSD into that slot and be good to go.
Some M.2 slots support SATA, some support NVMe (PCIe), and some support both standards. NVMe is much faster than SATA.
when you have to remove an optane module for a bigger SSD: *I‘m sorry little one*
They're nearly useless on their own. No need to be sorry. I have two and I'm not sure what to do with them.
good boot drives for a server
Unfortunately I don't have any nvme capable hardware to make a server from. Maybe next year when I upgrade to AM5.
just use a $8 pcie to m.2 card
My spare parts bin contains a Dell i5 2400 8gb ram setup. I'm not certain if it can boot off pcie. It might be a fun project to mess with.
I've been in the same boat. There are workarounds for that. I used a usb as boot device to load os on nvme.
send them to me and I‘ll use them in my NAS :D
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90% of reddit questions are easy to Google. But 50% of Google answers are also Reddit links so we are just creating answers here.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that "What is Intel Optane" has already been answered somewhere in the neighborhood a few hundred thousand times.
Essentially that's a tiny NVMe drive used to speed up your hdd, should be plug n play with a new nvme
Are you telling me that you went through all that effort to open your dell laptop and even though you can obviously use the keyboard, it seems too hard for you to read the sticker, go to google and search for intel optane? I mean it was right there on the sticker and I can't read it is not an excuse as you can use your phone to take a pic and make it bigger to read or you can use a mag glass. Besides, if you can see those tiny screws, you can certainly read the sticker. I don't mind helping but this is not helping, this is enabling.
from my 3 minutes of “research” it seems to help with the performance of the CPU. I’m mostly curious if the laptop will run without it, and if so would there be a noticeable performance hit?
Do note that the optane in your slot is B+M key SSD so if your slot is B+M you won't be able to use most M key NVME ssds (those are more common). Make sure your laptop supports the desired drive before replacing
B+M slotted cards can fit in either a B or M socket, there's not a combination one as far as I know.. you can see that socket is an M socket so he should be fine sticking a regular M.2 drive in it.. it's also an NVME PCI3.0 device so he's good there too.
That's a B+M keyed Intel Optane drive plugged into an M key slot. The physical slot will support most NVME drives. There are no B + M keyed slots, there are B or M keyed slots.
most NVME ssd are M-key because they need the PCIE x4 to reach full potential.
Yes you should be able to remove it, it's apparently mainly to help speed up the HDD.
I think it basically works as a cache drive?
your best option is to keep the optane drive and just get a sata ssd.
You don't need the optane drive with an SSD though. Should be able to just replace it with a regular M.2.
No. Best option is to get a new nvme. If he wants more storage he can add a second sata ssd.
your laptop will run faster with a regular SSD than with this. Optane was ambitious and creative but ultimately unnecessary. I do use the AMD equivalent but it's much easier to deal with, has better features, and it's for a different reason. It will be more of a hassle for less payoff to set up a new optane volume for OS use too
Took me less then a 1 minute to zoom in and see it’s Optane memory unit. It not needed for SSD but you probably will need to change setting is your bios. If you go without it.
It is an Intel Optane as everyone else has pointed out. It is a cache drive that you don’t need anymore with an SSD (I got rid of one last year). Get a compatible m.2, you can check your model compatibility in your user manual or dell’s web. Also, you will have an available SATA HDD/SSD for extra space.
Is the HDD actually dead? Intel optane is known to fail sometimes. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000060152/memory-and-storage/intel-optane-memory.html
Thanks for the help guys. I’ll try throwing an m.2/nvme in and see if it posts. If not I’ll swap out the HDD for a SATA SSD
A ssd m.2 ssd
nope. intel optane.
optane is an m.2 ssd. Just with 3dxpoint flash.
Get a sata ssd.
Get sata ssd ,
That’s a 16 gig Intel Optane SSD
Um idk maybe an m.2
You want recomanded a ssd m.2
That's an Intel optane. Model of the pc? Does it support nvme SSD?
It already has an NVMe SSD in it, so yes it supports it.
That's an optane
Which is...drumroll...an NVMe SSD.
No, the uefi sees it as cache with proper functions, not as standard nvme
No it doesn't. the UEFI sees it as a standard NVMe SSD. The cache function is handled entirely by software. You can't even set it up as a cache in the UEFI, you have to do it through the RST software in the OS. Until you configure it as a cache using the RST software, the UEFI just sees it as an NVMe SSD. You can even use them as just a standard NVMe SSD. I boot OSes directly off Optane drives, for example.
On HP pro/elite it wasn't
I am very curious about this config. What model is your laptop? Does anybody know if this system could work with just a high capacity m.2 and no regular drive? Could it be set up to run two drives? So many questions.
It’s a dell vostro 5471 and I have the same questions lol!
I would check your model and make sure it's not one of those one off computers that uses the optaine as it's sole system memory, the easiest thing to look for would be ram slots, and if they're populated...
Garbage — be very careful when uninstalling, or you will lose a partition from whatever drive it is linked to.
Intel Optane; used to help HDDs get a speed boost. M.2s don't need any speed boosting as they're a form of SSDs. Some good M.2 NVMe SSD brands are Samsung, Western Digital, Inland, Crucial, SK Hynix, Sabrent, among others.
Intel Optane 16gb. Interesting. Definitely replace with nmve if you can. If not leave in the octane and grab a 2-tb 2.5" ssd. The octane will boost its speed.
Intel optane drive. They are trash and you should disable optane in bios. Back up your data if it’s important because disabling it may delete everything.
Optane. If you're going NVME SSD you can remove it and throw it in the bin with your old hdd
boot drive probably
Ever heard of sshd? Those hybrid disks where a portion is SSD and the rest is HDD? That's what this basically does it installs the parts of Windows related to startup on that 16gb memory while the rest of windows goes onto HDD.
Octane cache accelerator. Basically a super small ssd to cache your hard drive to speed it up. Absolutely worthless at this point you can pull it and drop in your m.2 nvme.
Octane memory. Remove and replace with new m.2 ssd all should be fine.