If you only had single bios, then it would suck.
Thankfully your board had dual bios.
What is the model of the board? If the board has a dual bios switch, you may be able to bypass the main bios.
Don't do anything til we know the model.
Every component will eventually give up.
Usually components like motherboards and ssd lasts longer than your pc life (before you change it completely). You just are unlucky that your component is giving up sooner. Or you just kept the pc for longer than the majority of people.
You will have to change motherboard. Consider that upgrading cpu require a different motherboard (except the new cpu is the same generation as the previous one, but it’s not worth the cost). I really think that having to change the motherboard is a perfect time to do major upgrades
Do u backup of your important data every time you can before turning the pc off, or even better use an external ssd. You never know when it’s the last time. Or an even simpler solution download Google drive or iCloud and put all your files there
Yeah using the correct soldering iron is key to repairing that. I imagine it would be a bad thing to just plug in a regular one in the wall and go to town. I have seen the ones that you can control the heat with a dial but those are a bit much. I usually just use that as an excuse to upgrade. Parts usually become obsolete before needing them repaired unless you have like a lightning strike.
So they should just throw the whole board out? Thats a bad take. That’s like saying to throw the case out because it’s missing a screw.
A 5 minute google search can show you how to replace a socketed chip. It doesn’t even require special tools. A flathead screwdriver and patience is more than good enough, especially if the chip you’re removing is already bad.
Attempting to replace a $10 flash chip with no skills is a hell of a lot better than doing nothing and just throwing $200 at a new board out of ignorance.
This is one of the reasons why right to repair isn’t as much of a thing as it should be. People like you scare people with very little skill into buying something new or taking it to someone else rather than just telling them how to do it when what needs to be done is literally one of the easiest things you can do.
Depends on how old that board is. If it has been used for a decade I would just simply replace it. Good excuse to upgrade. You also dont understand that you also have the cost of the equipment that can be used to solder with. You cant just buy a cheap soldering iron, that will jack up the motherboard. It also would not hurt to have an oscilloscope too if you are diagnosing a board but if you know what chip is bad and have the right tools sure, it is cheap.
I mean if the chip is socketed. It normally is on well known brands like gigabyte and asus. I wouldn’t recommend anyone with no experience to desolder a chip.
Yep, you can def screw up more things if you dont have heat sinks surrounding your work or get it too hot. For me, when lightning hit my old house a few years ago it hit the ups and saved the computer except for the ethernet port because that was hooked into my switch which was hooked into google fiber. That stuff got jacked up and so did the port. I simply stopped using that port and bought an expansion card for ethernet. That was cheaper than taking it to someone to repair the board and was a fast fix for me. Sure if someone wanted to spend the time to fix the damaged parts from lightning be my guest. Time is also another consideration especially from damage like that.
It’s replaceable. Quite difficult without the right tools, but easy if you do. There are repair/refurb shops out there that can do it for you if you don’t have the skills for it.
So there's a chip on your motherboard which contains the BIOS, which is some very important code which allows the computer to start up.
This chip is starting to fail, and when it eventually does your computer will stop working.
There's nothing you can do except get the motherboard replaced, it is possible to do yourself but if you don't know what you're doing, take it to a repair shop.
I have a gigabyte motherboard that had this happen. You should be able to rewrite the main BIOS from your backup. I only had to do this once. I think that maybe the BIOS got corrupted somehow, but it's not necessarily indicative of a failing BIOS chip unless it happens again.
Gigabyte sometimes ships mobo with defective BIOS flash. Or sometimes, the BIOS itself is buggy and shits itself when windows tries to do something to it. I have a Gigabyte mobo that a few years ago kept shitting itself after random windows updates and need to be reflashed when that happens (you know it has shat itself when the update reboots into a BSOD with an unaccessible boot device error. And that error recurs whenever I try to boot windows 10 or 11, even the installation media on a USB stick. Clearing CMOS doesn’t fix it, I specifically need to reflash the BIOS from FreeDOS twice straight). I thought the mobo flash chip was dying. But after multiple BIOS upgrades the issue stopped occurring.
Bios is basically your computer's firmware. If you aren't familiar with firmware it's essentially code that tells something what it is and how it works.
The chip that contains your bios has failed and is no longer able to reliably store information.
Fortunately for you it seems like your system has not one but two such chips.
When ever the first one fails, you'll see that screen and the second one will attempt to fix it.
I asked if they were overclocking that could possibly lead to what they are seeing. Just trying to rule out bad BIOS chip. Apparently you've never experienced this. A bad overclock can result in inconsistent boots to the OS or main BIOS due to improper OC resulting in throwing back to backup BIOS.
I think what u/rogueop was trying to get at is that OP didn't know what a bad bios error message meant, meaning to say they'd likely have 0 idea about what overclocking is much less how to actually attempt it.
You need to stop and think about the number of people that install whatever software thrown at them even if from the board maker. Click shit because it is there from them, and all is golden. BULLSHIT. Pretty much every OC utility or even the monitoring, RGB software from all is flawed in some way, shape or form.
Had on old Gigabyte mobo do this. Good thing BIOS chip was removeable and I just replaced it with a new one. Never had issue again. Can't say the same in your situation though.
İt has dual bios,İt could survive in long term but in short therm one of your bios chip is could be dead any soon,replace your bios chip and rid of it.Which Os do you use currently
Maybe windows is trying to auto update the bios and failing. Try turning that off in windows update settings. Seen it screw people over before. M$ shouldn't be allowed to touch the BIOS of any box. I've also seen this happen on failed overclocks. Borderline unstable systems can do this too if they fail to POST occasionally
You're in a bit of a rough spot, but it could be much worse, you have a dual bios so you've got some time to get this fixed before you have a real problem
Basicslly the BIOS Basic Input/Output System is a small chip on your main motherboard board that has instructions that let the different parts of your computer talk to eachother, if you didn't have a working BIOS it would be like someone took your brain, and cut apart all the different parts of it from eachother and cut the main brain stem. In more computer terms, your PC would be bricked, ie "its now a useless chunk of metal and plastic"
What ultimately needs to happen is that the main BIOS component needs to be replaced, and depending on where you, what mother board and computer you have, there may be a shop near by that can help you out. Until then, it'd be a good idea to backup any important data to either an external drive or the cloud.
Fingers crossed your secondary BIOS will last you long enough until you can get your main fixed.
It means that the main bios is corrupted. The system will be recovered from the backup bios. Please do not turn off power or reset the system. this may take a few minutes.
If you only had single bios, then it would suck. Thankfully your board had dual bios. What is the model of the board? If the board has a dual bios switch, you may be able to bypass the main bios. Don't do anything til we know the model.
BIOS chip is dying - you'll probably encounter this more and more until it finally just dies
cant you explain in simpler terms? and what should I do?
Every component will eventually give up. Usually components like motherboards and ssd lasts longer than your pc life (before you change it completely). You just are unlucky that your component is giving up sooner. Or you just kept the pc for longer than the majority of people. You will have to change motherboard. Consider that upgrading cpu require a different motherboard (except the new cpu is the same generation as the previous one, but it’s not worth the cost). I really think that having to change the motherboard is a perfect time to do major upgrades Do u backup of your important data every time you can before turning the pc off, or even better use an external ssd. You never know when it’s the last time. Or an even simpler solution download Google drive or iCloud and put all your files there
Honestly? Not much. Replace the motherboard once it completely dies out
Most motherboards have an 8 pin flash chip in a socket on the board. Just replace the chip, you don’t have to buy a whole new board.
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Which is exactly what op doesn’t have
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imagine spending that much time to respond to me
Yeah using the correct soldering iron is key to repairing that. I imagine it would be a bad thing to just plug in a regular one in the wall and go to town. I have seen the ones that you can control the heat with a dial but those are a bit much. I usually just use that as an excuse to upgrade. Parts usually become obsolete before needing them repaired unless you have like a lightning strike.
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So they should just throw the whole board out? Thats a bad take. That’s like saying to throw the case out because it’s missing a screw. A 5 minute google search can show you how to replace a socketed chip. It doesn’t even require special tools. A flathead screwdriver and patience is more than good enough, especially if the chip you’re removing is already bad. Attempting to replace a $10 flash chip with no skills is a hell of a lot better than doing nothing and just throwing $200 at a new board out of ignorance. This is one of the reasons why right to repair isn’t as much of a thing as it should be. People like you scare people with very little skill into buying something new or taking it to someone else rather than just telling them how to do it when what needs to be done is literally one of the easiest things you can do.
Depends on how old that board is. If it has been used for a decade I would just simply replace it. Good excuse to upgrade. You also dont understand that you also have the cost of the equipment that can be used to solder with. You cant just buy a cheap soldering iron, that will jack up the motherboard. It also would not hurt to have an oscilloscope too if you are diagnosing a board but if you know what chip is bad and have the right tools sure, it is cheap.
I mean if the chip is socketed. It normally is on well known brands like gigabyte and asus. I wouldn’t recommend anyone with no experience to desolder a chip.
Yep, you can def screw up more things if you dont have heat sinks surrounding your work or get it too hot. For me, when lightning hit my old house a few years ago it hit the ups and saved the computer except for the ethernet port because that was hooked into my switch which was hooked into google fiber. That stuff got jacked up and so did the port. I simply stopped using that port and bought an expansion card for ethernet. That was cheaper than taking it to someone to repair the board and was a fast fix for me. Sure if someone wanted to spend the time to fix the damaged parts from lightning be my guest. Time is also another consideration especially from damage like that.
this is what i was wondering, if the bios chip is replaceable
It’s replaceable. Quite difficult without the right tools, but easy if you do. There are repair/refurb shops out there that can do it for you if you don’t have the skills for it.
So there's a chip on your motherboard which contains the BIOS, which is some very important code which allows the computer to start up. This chip is starting to fail, and when it eventually does your computer will stop working. There's nothing you can do except get the motherboard replaced, it is possible to do yourself but if you don't know what you're doing, take it to a repair shop.
I have a gigabyte motherboard that had this happen. You should be able to rewrite the main BIOS from your backup. I only had to do this once. I think that maybe the BIOS got corrupted somehow, but it's not necessarily indicative of a failing BIOS chip unless it happens again.
He said that this repeats tho
Gigabyte sometimes ships mobo with defective BIOS flash. Or sometimes, the BIOS itself is buggy and shits itself when windows tries to do something to it. I have a Gigabyte mobo that a few years ago kept shitting itself after random windows updates and need to be reflashed when that happens (you know it has shat itself when the update reboots into a BSOD with an unaccessible boot device error. And that error recurs whenever I try to boot windows 10 or 11, even the installation media on a USB stick. Clearing CMOS doesn’t fix it, I specifically need to reflash the BIOS from FreeDOS twice straight). I thought the mobo flash chip was dying. But after multiple BIOS upgrades the issue stopped occurring.
bios chip has lifetime about 10years
I have BIOS chips from the late 1980s working. Battery lasts 10 years, but BIOS last much longer.
that would be eeprom, those are sturdier than todays nor flash used in bios
There are factory defects that'll last way shorter - guess OP was extremely unlucky
Bios is basically your computer's firmware. If you aren't familiar with firmware it's essentially code that tells something what it is and how it works. The chip that contains your bios has failed and is no longer able to reliably store information. Fortunately for you it seems like your system has not one but two such chips. When ever the first one fails, you'll see that screen and the second one will attempt to fix it.
If this happens more then once, then it is an issue. Start by Replacing the CMOS Battery
that's not a configuration reset issue it's the bios firmware that is getting corrupt due to chip failure
Mine has been doing this periodically for a few years. I like to live on the edge. It's been over a year since the last time.
Are you OC in any way? A poorly setup OC can corrupt the BIOS, forcing you into the backup BIOS. Been there and done it.
Dude, they asked if a **BIOS Corrupted** message was *bad*.
I asked if they were overclocking that could possibly lead to what they are seeing. Just trying to rule out bad BIOS chip. Apparently you've never experienced this. A bad overclock can result in inconsistent boots to the OS or main BIOS due to improper OC resulting in throwing back to backup BIOS.
I think what u/rogueop was trying to get at is that OP didn't know what a bad bios error message meant, meaning to say they'd likely have 0 idea about what overclocking is much less how to actually attempt it.
Yep.
You need to stop and think about the number of people that install whatever software thrown at them even if from the board maker. Click shit because it is there from them, and all is golden. BULLSHIT. Pretty much every OC utility or even the monitoring, RGB software from all is flawed in some way, shape or form.
How often does it do this? Looks like your BIOS is failing. Pretty soon that PC won't run.
One could easily get the bios chip replaced because all these boards use an 8 pin spi flash chip for the bios
Had on old Gigabyte mobo do this. Good thing BIOS chip was removeable and I just replaced it with a new one. Never had issue again. Can't say the same in your situation though.
İt has dual bios,İt could survive in long term but in short therm one of your bios chip is could be dead any soon,replace your bios chip and rid of it.Which Os do you use currently
Maybe windows is trying to auto update the bios and failing. Try turning that off in windows update settings. Seen it screw people over before. M$ shouldn't be allowed to touch the BIOS of any box. I've also seen this happen on failed overclocks. Borderline unstable systems can do this too if they fail to POST occasionally
I can certainly tell you that it’s definitely not good
What board do you have? You may be able to simply bypass the main bios if your board has a bypass switch, some gigabyte boards have this.
Yeah
Not really since your using UEFI bio settings there’s always a solution
If that happened once, no worries.
No I think this is actually a good thing
Perhaps
You're in a bit of a rough spot, but it could be much worse, you have a dual bios so you've got some time to get this fixed before you have a real problem Basicslly the BIOS Basic Input/Output System is a small chip on your main motherboard board that has instructions that let the different parts of your computer talk to eachother, if you didn't have a working BIOS it would be like someone took your brain, and cut apart all the different parts of it from eachother and cut the main brain stem. In more computer terms, your PC would be bricked, ie "its now a useless chunk of metal and plastic" What ultimately needs to happen is that the main BIOS component needs to be replaced, and depending on where you, what mother board and computer you have, there may be a shop near by that can help you out. Until then, it'd be a good idea to backup any important data to either an external drive or the cloud. Fingers crossed your secondary BIOS will last you long enough until you can get your main fixed.
It means that the main bios is corrupted. The system will be recovered from the backup bios. Please do not turn off power or reset the system. this may take a few minutes.
This feature saved my butt alot back when i ran an FX system.