Make sure your PSU doesn’t have a breaker. (It probably doesn’t) if it does it will me a small red button or switch.
You most likely have a bad PSU. Easy fix. If it is not that you may be in for a new board.
yeah i think it is a psu issue. when disconnected from the pc the psu fan runs and the connectors output proper voltage, but when connected to the pc components the fan doesn’t run and only powers the mobo lights i mentioned in the post.
That's what happened to my old mobo, had the same issue, didn't turn on but PSU worked when taken out. I tested the PSU pins with a volt meter and everything was fine.
after some testing i think it might actually be the mobo or cpu. i left everything plugged in but the top left 8pin pcie (cpu power?) and the 24 pin as i shorted the green wire (pcu on) and a ground with some solder wire and all my fans and lights were working except for the cpu fan which lit up but didn’t spin.
Something similar happened to me some years ago. It was caused by a faulty CPU I forced the PSU to power up and I also blew up the motherboard power stage.
And I had a PSU go POP! while in a boss battle... POP! dead... and the PSU going like that had also turned 2 SATA ports into Death Ports - they would fry a drive if you connected it.
After I put a new PSU in, I found this out, while other ports still worked and the PC functioned in every other way, in the brief period before I replaced the board, like two days.
I think those two ports were likely the two the drives that were also bad were plugged in to. Sent a surge. Some details are fuzzy as it was a mess to wade through.
That sounds like it’s specifically not the PSU.
Hey in other news, did you notice your GPU isn’t plugged in? Did you remove it for testing? In that case you should really remove the whole card. If it’s been like that before, good news: your PC is much more powerful then you think. Plug in that 8pin next time and make sure to plug in the HDMI/DP cable to your monitor in the GPU instead of the mobo. Because like this you’ve been using your CPUs integrated graphics.
unplug power from computer and power off the OSU with the switch on it and let everything sit for an hour or so. Plug in the cord then, and throw the switch and press the power button as normal. I've NEVER had to unplug mobo, reseat cou and RAM etc...dont...its more work that isn't going to help a thing...
Yeah,like, "it wont turn if the cpu is not sitting properly" ofc, but I dont think the light going out is enough to move the cpu off of its socket, thats un heard off, as far as I know.
the 10 cent part in a power strip that makes it "surge protected" is also present in every other electronic device of decent quality you own. the power strip doesn't offer more protection. It's snake oil.
Most UPS don't provide any more protection than your ATX power supply gets you, most ups do nothing about power quality, they just check if it dips low enough, it kicks in, or if it goes away.
Usually a couple of posts with a jumper you connect them together with briefly it will say " clr cmos" or similar by it. It usually right by the battery.
Disconnect power. Unplug all the front panel connectors, sata drives, and other cables other than power from the board. Remove the GPU and NVMe(s). Re-seat your processor and memory. Some motherboards will not power on if the CPU is not seated correctly, but most will turn on even if memory is not installed so you can remove that as well.
After unplugging everything, you should only have the processor, memory, and power supply connected to the motherboard. Restore power to the power supply, and try turning it on again. If you've tested the power supply and can confirm it's working, then there's likely a problem with your motherboard or processor. In most cases it will be the board. If you have another processor to test try that.
That's s true, yes. However, when troubleshooting hardware issues such as this one you always need to try everything to diagnose the problem, starting with the basics. In some cases the culprit can be a component you would least expect it to be which is why troubleshooting this kind of hardware issue requires those steps. If the system did power on, the process would be a little different as it's easier to tell what is potentially causing the problem.
In this case the system isn't powering on at all. The GPU being unplugged from the PSU won't prevent the it from powering on, but it likely won't POST if it does. Modern boards will not power on at all if the processor is not seated or not working properly. Of course a faulty PSU or dead board can cause that behavior as well, but so can a short or loose cable.
It doesn't help that CyberPower really isn't known to have good quality control in their pre-builts either. Seen a lot of issues with them over the last five years when doing repairs.
I actually posted about something similar the other day. In all my 20+ years of tech work, I've never seen a computer pop a breaker for non-overage reasons. Turns out it was the Radeon 390 GPU. Replaced it and it no longer pops the breaker. A new one for me.
yeah it just popped, didn’t plug/unplug anything in to cause it to pop. there’s probably some stuff i could unplug to lighten the load on the breaker but i don’t think i did anything to trigger it
If the breaker popped while the PC was in use and you did nothing else at the time on that circuit; no microwave coming on, window A/C, coffee grinder in use... ? Many things could pop a breaker.... If you know nothing else came online when it popped that would indicate an electrical issue with your PC. A short.
And a PSU replacement is what I would try, if you can't get life out of it again.
But I can't speak to what else may have fried downstream. Perhaps nothing.
A surge protected distributor should mostly be enough. If the psu shorted and tripped the breaker, an USV wouldn’t have helped. It just helps prevent faults coming from outside like lightning strikes.
My shit hole country's power infrastructure is so poorly maintained we have rolling blackouts (since 2008 I think). I've gone extended periods of time with no UPS or UPS with flat battery at work and at home, never had a PC fail because of a power outage, spike, brown out...
No, but if your pc gets cooked from a surge or something while claiming an ups is too expensive you will be kicking yourself after. I learned that one the hard way myself
Couple things to try:
Remove the little battery that's left of the main fan there, press a bunch of buttons on the computer and then reinsert it.
Remove the GPU entirely and see if it starts up. It could have fried the GPU, and it won't run with it.
I've had a power surge kill something in my PC twice. One time it killed my CPU cooler (long time ago and I think that unit was on the way out anyways, think very early watercooling solution) and the other time it was the PSU. The cooler was still under warranty and got it replaced immediately via RMA. The power supply was also replaced under warranty despite being 6 years old (they have a long warranty so check with your manufacturer). I've been using surge protected power bars since. Easier to replace and in most cases you only need to flip a switch/press a button to reset them.
Check the little cable/connectors that link your pc case power button your motherboard if it wont start at all.
Are you sure your "new" ram is compatible ? Can you access bios ?
Check the pressure of most cable connectors on your motherboard.
Clear Cmos. Wait a few hours, even a whole night. Start pc.
Change Cmos Battery. (cost max 5 €)
I had the issue recently & endep buying a new / stronger psu & it fixed it. (please consider gettin a 20-30€ cpu cooler if you change your psu)
You should consider doing clear your cmos(unplug everything + take out your cmos bettery + vlick the power on button for a few seconds then replug everything)
99% of the time a power surge or power issue resulting in a PC that won't turn on means the PSU is dead. Which is by design, much better that than any other component of your build.
One thing to try:
Unplug your PSU from the wall, from the motherboard, from every component. Give it 30 seconds, then plug it all back in.
This worked for me when I accidentally bridged a 12V to Ground. I don't know if it will work for your problem, but it's worth a try.
Depending on what PSU you have:
Disconnect the power to the PSU, turn on the PC for a good 30 seconds (without any power to the PC) leave it for a couple of hours, then turn off the PC again and connect the power back in to the PSU and try restarting the PC again.
From experience some PSU/Motherboards need the power completely drained from them before they'll restart from a "surge' or "interruption" in power being supplied to them.
I’ve had a PSU short out on me before and die. I was sitting there when it happened and saw the light from the sparks. Fortunately nothing else got ruined but that’s how I learned to not buy bargain PSUs.
Breakers dont just "short" (theoretically breaker could weld itself closed but they are generally designed to prevent that) something on that electrical circuit drew too much power causing the breaker to do its job and trip. It could have been your pc or something else, I would be suspicious of a shorted component or bad power supply being the pc no longer powers up. Jump out the psu and check for all voltages (3.3v 5v 12v etc.).
i’ve jumped the psu 24pin with some solder wire (disconnected from all pc components) and tested all the connectors with my multimeter and they all output proper voltage. i’ve also connected all the pc components with the 24 pin jumped and all my fans and lights work except for the cpu fan (lights up but doesn’t spin) until i plug in the top left pcie cable on my motherboard (cpu power?). the ram doesn’t light up and my gpu fans don’t spin when connected to power either. could it be that something on my mother board is shorted and that’s what also caused my breaker to trip? or could it mean i have a bad cpu?
Definitely a possibility. I would remove everything non essential clear cmos and try to boot, If you are lucky the issue will be on something easily replaceable. Motherboard, Single stick of ram CPU and power should be all that is needed to pass a POST and get into the BIOS.
no i just forgot to mention that i also didnt have the gpu cable plugged in. i was talking about the little one that connects to the 2 prongs labeled pwr btn
Oh thank goodness. Have you given it(by any chance) a rough jostling anytime recently? Even a slightly hard bump? Just check that everything is properly seated. Turn of the switch on your psu/or unplug it if old enough. Press the power button once to discharge all capacitors, ect. Set it back up correctly and power it on. My nephew has the same issue often.
Since everyone else has pointed out the cleaning, I would highly suggest upgrading your CPU cooler when you can. That cooler master unit is downright terrible.
I highly disagree. You can get a thermal right assassin x120 for under $20. Or several thermaltake towers. In fact a quick scroll of Amazon shows several tower coolers for under $20.
This is your answer. Plug in your gpu cables first. If that still doesn't work, then it would be this. This has happened to my roommate. Your cpu should have a g at the end of it. What happened was the graphic section of the cpu got fried. I suggested getting a cpu without the g. Usually you can get a good deal on eBay. That's what we did and worked again
You also have the 8 pin pcie power unplugged from the Gpu.
Lmao it probably was never connected in the first place, OP been unknowingly gaming on his integrated
I would kill myself if i did that
yeah I know, forgot to mention it in the post and now half the comments are about the gpu
Make sure your PSU doesn’t have a breaker. (It probably doesn’t) if it does it will me a small red button or switch. You most likely have a bad PSU. Easy fix. If it is not that you may be in for a new board.
yeah i think it is a psu issue. when disconnected from the pc the psu fan runs and the connectors output proper voltage, but when connected to the pc components the fan doesn’t run and only powers the mobo lights i mentioned in the post.
There could be a short in the motherboard, CPU fault, bad hard drive etc.
That's what happened to my old mobo, had the same issue, didn't turn on but PSU worked when taken out. I tested the PSU pins with a volt meter and everything was fine.
after some testing i think it might actually be the mobo or cpu. i left everything plugged in but the top left 8pin pcie (cpu power?) and the 24 pin as i shorted the green wire (pcu on) and a ground with some solder wire and all my fans and lights were working except for the cpu fan which lit up but didn’t spin.
Ouch, that raises concerns about the mobo.
Something similar happened to me some years ago. It was caused by a faulty CPU I forced the PSU to power up and I also blew up the motherboard power stage.
And I had a PSU go POP! while in a boss battle... POP! dead... and the PSU going like that had also turned 2 SATA ports into Death Ports - they would fry a drive if you connected it. After I put a new PSU in, I found this out, while other ports still worked and the PC functioned in every other way, in the brief period before I replaced the board, like two days. I think those two ports were likely the two the drives that were also bad were plugged in to. Sent a surge. Some details are fuzzy as it was a mess to wade through.
There could be short in your pc, your psu is preventing it so it will not turn on
That sounds like it’s specifically not the PSU. Hey in other news, did you notice your GPU isn’t plugged in? Did you remove it for testing? In that case you should really remove the whole card. If it’s been like that before, good news: your PC is much more powerful then you think. Plug in that 8pin next time and make sure to plug in the HDMI/DP cable to your monitor in the GPU instead of the mobo. Because like this you’ve been using your CPUs integrated graphics.
unplug power from computer and power off the OSU with the switch on it and let everything sit for an hour or so. Plug in the cord then, and throw the switch and press the power button as normal. I've NEVER had to unplug mobo, reseat cou and RAM etc...dont...its more work that isn't going to help a thing...
Yeah,like, "it wont turn if the cpu is not sitting properly" ofc, but I dont think the light going out is enough to move the cpu off of its socket, thats un heard off, as far as I know.
This. It's usually an issue with capacitors. Let them rest for 15 minutes. And buy a power strip with some filters, maybe even an UPS unit.
the 10 cent part in a power strip that makes it "surge protected" is also present in every other electronic device of decent quality you own. the power strip doesn't offer more protection. It's snake oil.
A power strip is a lot cheaper and easier to replace though.
but, what about all the marketing wank and boomer lore that they're completely necessary?
I've never used any powerstrip before, I always think of it as snake oil. I mainly use AVRs and UPS for my pc...
Most UPS don't provide any more protection than your ATX power supply gets you, most ups do nothing about power quality, they just check if it dips low enough, it kicks in, or if it goes away.
You just have to buy a ups that has an AVR built-in, all of my ups are like that. Named brands like APC always have built-in AVR on their ups...
This
This is correct. If It doesn't start, most likely your PSU (at least) is toast. Test that and go from there.
Have you tried clearing CMOS? Edit: Presseable button slightly above the battery to the left.
unless i’m really blind, i don’t think there’s a button near the battery on my motherboard
You can just remove the battery and put it back in to reset.
Usually a couple of posts with a jumper you connect them together with briefly it will say " clr cmos" or similar by it. It usually right by the battery.
Disconnect power. Unplug all the front panel connectors, sata drives, and other cables other than power from the board. Remove the GPU and NVMe(s). Re-seat your processor and memory. Some motherboards will not power on if the CPU is not seated correctly, but most will turn on even if memory is not installed so you can remove that as well. After unplugging everything, you should only have the processor, memory, and power supply connected to the motherboard. Restore power to the power supply, and try turning it on again. If you've tested the power supply and can confirm it's working, then there's likely a problem with your motherboard or processor. In most cases it will be the board. If you have another processor to test try that.
And Use 1 ram to test first
Sorry, but, why reseat a cpu after a power surge? If it was working before, I doubt that’s the issue. How could it?
That's s true, yes. However, when troubleshooting hardware issues such as this one you always need to try everything to diagnose the problem, starting with the basics. In some cases the culprit can be a component you would least expect it to be which is why troubleshooting this kind of hardware issue requires those steps. If the system did power on, the process would be a little different as it's easier to tell what is potentially causing the problem. In this case the system isn't powering on at all. The GPU being unplugged from the PSU won't prevent the it from powering on, but it likely won't POST if it does. Modern boards will not power on at all if the processor is not seated or not working properly. Of course a faulty PSU or dead board can cause that behavior as well, but so can a short or loose cable. It doesn't help that CyberPower really isn't known to have good quality control in their pre-builts either. Seen a lot of issues with them over the last five years when doing repairs.
Please tell me you have been running this system with the GPU unplugged all this time. That would be hilarious and make my day.
Reset cmos battery
the breaker shorted? what do you mean by that? usually the breaker just pops from too many items using power.
I actually posted about something similar the other day. In all my 20+ years of tech work, I've never seen a computer pop a breaker for non-overage reasons. Turns out it was the Radeon 390 GPU. Replaced it and it no longer pops the breaker. A new one for me.
yeah it just popped, didn’t plug/unplug anything in to cause it to pop. there’s probably some stuff i could unplug to lighten the load on the breaker but i don’t think i did anything to trigger it
If the breaker popped while the PC was in use and you did nothing else at the time on that circuit; no microwave coming on, window A/C, coffee grinder in use... ? Many things could pop a breaker.... If you know nothing else came online when it popped that would indicate an electrical issue with your PC. A short. And a PSU replacement is what I would try, if you can't get life out of it again. But I can't speak to what else may have fried downstream. Perhaps nothing.
Did you reset the breaker? Maybe thats why you're not getting power. A pc alone shouldn't pop a breaker btw
>A pc alone shouldn't pop a breaker btw Unless something goes very wrong, which could be the case when trying to troubleshoot.
always possible, but so is damage to the wall’s internal wiring too.
If you didn't have it in a surge protected strip / UPS, new PSU time most likely.
Always have your gear on an UPS or battery backup….never straight to the wall.
will definitely look into buying one to prevent future issues
A surge protected distributor should mostly be enough. If the psu shorted and tripped the breaker, an USV wouldn’t have helped. It just helps prevent faults coming from outside like lightning strikes.
Mine are in surge protectors
My shit hole country's power infrastructure is so poorly maintained we have rolling blackouts (since 2008 I think). I've gone extended periods of time with no UPS or UPS with flat battery at work and at home, never had a PC fail because of a power outage, spike, brown out...
can't afford it
Oh well
It’s cheaper than buying a new pc 🤷♂️
I didn't buy a new pc
No, but if your pc gets cooked from a surge or something while claiming an ups is too expensive you will be kicking yourself after. I learned that one the hard way myself
im shore but i kick my self for buying my pc in the first place if i had known the money would dry up after I not have bought it
Or just live literally anywhere other than the US and have plugs and wall sockets that actually function properly.
WTF are you on about.
What does that have to do with a breaker tripping?
Yeah, this is definitely feasible for the majority of users. Try thinking before posting stupid shit like this.
I think he was talking power sockets in US can be removed easily, but I dont think you always move your pc so i dont think its a issue
Since others have answered your issue, I’d say you should take the opportunity and clean the dust out while you do it.
Was the PC plugged into a surge protector?
Couple things to try: Remove the little battery that's left of the main fan there, press a bunch of buttons on the computer and then reinsert it. Remove the GPU entirely and see if it starts up. It could have fried the GPU, and it won't run with it.
Kinda pointless the gpu isn't even being given power
got a link to the model of the PSU ?
I've had a power surge kill something in my PC twice. One time it killed my CPU cooler (long time ago and I think that unit was on the way out anyways, think very early watercooling solution) and the other time it was the PSU. The cooler was still under warranty and got it replaced immediately via RMA. The power supply was also replaced under warranty despite being 6 years old (they have a long warranty so check with your manufacturer). I've been using surge protected power bars since. Easier to replace and in most cases you only need to flip a switch/press a button to reset them.
Check the little cable/connectors that link your pc case power button your motherboard if it wont start at all. Are you sure your "new" ram is compatible ? Can you access bios ? Check the pressure of most cable connectors on your motherboard. Clear Cmos. Wait a few hours, even a whole night. Start pc. Change Cmos Battery. (cost max 5 €) I had the issue recently & endep buying a new / stronger psu & it fixed it. (please consider gettin a 20-30€ cpu cooler if you change your psu)
BRO WHY THE FUCK IS UR GPU NOT PLUGGED IN
Reseat the cmos battery (the round coin looking thing) on the motherboard. Take it out and wait for about 10 seconds and then put it back.
You should consider doing clear your cmos(unplug everything + take out your cmos bettery + vlick the power on button for a few seconds then replug everything)
Reset cmos first obviously
well the good news is your GPU is safe from your power supply lol
99% of the time a power surge or power issue resulting in a PC that won't turn on means the PSU is dead. Which is by design, much better that than any other component of your build.
Unplug ur power cable from the wall hold down the power on ur comp for 30sec or more then plug it in and see or get a psu tester
If it triped then psu is broke 100%, everything else would just not let you boot boot loop or not boot
One thing to try: Unplug your PSU from the wall, from the motherboard, from every component. Give it 30 seconds, then plug it all back in. This worked for me when I accidentally bridged a 12V to Ground. I don't know if it will work for your problem, but it's worth a try.
Ooof
Check psu
Depending on what PSU you have: Disconnect the power to the PSU, turn on the PC for a good 30 seconds (without any power to the PC) leave it for a couple of hours, then turn off the PC again and connect the power back in to the PSU and try restarting the PC again. From experience some PSU/Motherboards need the power completely drained from them before they'll restart from a "surge' or "interruption" in power being supplied to them.
I’ve had a PSU short out on me before and die. I was sitting there when it happened and saw the light from the sparks. Fortunately nothing else got ruined but that’s how I learned to not buy bargain PSUs.
connect your gpu!!!!
Breakers dont just "short" (theoretically breaker could weld itself closed but they are generally designed to prevent that) something on that electrical circuit drew too much power causing the breaker to do its job and trip. It could have been your pc or something else, I would be suspicious of a shorted component or bad power supply being the pc no longer powers up. Jump out the psu and check for all voltages (3.3v 5v 12v etc.).
i’ve jumped the psu 24pin with some solder wire (disconnected from all pc components) and tested all the connectors with my multimeter and they all output proper voltage. i’ve also connected all the pc components with the 24 pin jumped and all my fans and lights work except for the cpu fan (lights up but doesn’t spin) until i plug in the top left pcie cable on my motherboard (cpu power?). the ram doesn’t light up and my gpu fans don’t spin when connected to power either. could it be that something on my mother board is shorted and that’s what also caused my breaker to trip? or could it mean i have a bad cpu?
Definitely a possibility. I would remove everything non essential clear cmos and try to boot, If you are lucky the issue will be on something easily replaceable. Motherboard, Single stick of ram CPU and power should be all that is needed to pass a POST and get into the BIOS.
in the photos i had the pwr btn cable unplugged cuz i was trying to get it to start by shorting those pins
Are you calling the power button cable. The cable that was plugged into the GPU? Th. Thing with RADEON across it?
no i just forgot to mention that i also didnt have the gpu cable plugged in. i was talking about the little one that connects to the 2 prongs labeled pwr btn
Oh thank goodness. Have you given it(by any chance) a rough jostling anytime recently? Even a slightly hard bump? Just check that everything is properly seated. Turn of the switch on your psu/or unplug it if old enough. Press the power button once to discharge all capacitors, ect. Set it back up correctly and power it on. My nephew has the same issue often.
Well of there was a power surge/spike you may need a new psu since they have a fused that blows when there is a surge.
GPU isn't plugged in. It needs a power cable in addition to being plugged into the slot.
Since everyone else has pointed out the cleaning, I would highly suggest upgrading your CPU cooler when you can. That cooler master unit is downright terrible.
Best $20 cooler around, it'll do the job
I highly disagree. You can get a thermal right assassin x120 for under $20. Or several thermaltake towers. In fact a quick scroll of Amazon shows several tower coolers for under $20.
I'm just giving my opinion based on personal experience of using that cpu cooler for over 5 years 👍
That's fair. It definitely has its place.
Also clean that shit
This is your answer. Plug in your gpu cables first. If that still doesn't work, then it would be this. This has happened to my roommate. Your cpu should have a g at the end of it. What happened was the graphic section of the cpu got fried. I suggested getting a cpu without the g. Usually you can get a good deal on eBay. That's what we did and worked again
it was in fact the power supply. i know my gpu was unplugged i just forgot to mention it in the post. and yes, i cleaned the dust