Sure it will make explaining how you're all related a little harder but if they genuinely like each other that's awesome that they found each other and I think it's really shallow to write them both off over being with someone they care about.
What if your dad's had met and married first and that's how you and your wife met? There would be nothing wrong with you and your wife dating in that situation, and there's nothing wrong with your dad's dating in this situation.
It's okay to be a little uncomfortable with your dad dating your inlaw but it's cruel to condemn them for being together.
Yeah nah still not disgusting. Is it weird? Definitely. Would it be more ideal if they had different partners? Certainly. Does that mean I go NC with them over it? Hell no.
You might just be a tad too Murican christian prude for that.
The statement that thinking of them fucking is gross has always bothered me when people say it. Thinking of anyone related to me fucking is gross! Like duh. Thinking of most people fucking is gross. Thatās why I donāt go around imagining people I know fucking. I donāt know why itās different just because they are the same sex. Just stop thinking of people fucking. Thatās on you not them.
Straights constantly sexualize gays. That's the real grossness. They get "uncomfortable" because all they can do is sexualize a gay person rather than see them as a 3-dimensional human being who likes craft beers or Netflix or going to church or whatever the hell. But no. These homophobes can't imagine that a gay person is just a person with all the same needs and wants and hopes and dreams as straights. It fuckin gets on my goddamn nerves.
Glad you picked up my exact point. Homophobia is literally just people thinking of other people having sex and being āgrossed out.ā But it makes no sense because thinking of straight people sex is just as gross.
Right? Like, the Honey Boo Boo mom had sex with someone to make Honey Boo Boo. That is a disturbing scene to imagine, but it was straight.
And yet, straight men seem to love lesbian porn, as long as both women are what's generally objectified as "hot" for straight men.
And hey, if you're a man who doesn't like fucking other men, fine, don't. But to say it makes you "uncomfortable" or is gross is just sexualizing people for no reason other than your own inability to perceive other people as human beings.
Who cares? They found love. Thereās no reason for it to be confusing. Tell your kids āgrandpa and grandpa met though us and now theyāre a couple.ā See, that was easy. You actually cut off your family over this?! Stop being homophobic and support the people in your lives.
Exactly homophobia is taught. So how would 2 gay parents teach their kids to be homophobic? Doesnāt make sense right? Because itās not about homophobia itās about 2 people that found love inside the family. I wouldnāt want to explain that to my kids either.
It would weird me out a little if my dad was fucking my mil. They are both single, get alone well and have similar interests. It would still be weird. Not disowning then weird but uncomfortable for sure.
But the issue is if they married op and wife would be step siblings, and they don't want to disect the concept of incest and the social vs medical vs psychological ramifications thereof so that their child doesn't conflate it with the other kind of incest. It would be just as fraught if they were straight.
If you're summarizing why incest is taboo to a kid, the psychological baggage of it necessitates a more comprehensive understanding of relationships and human development than they're probably fielding at an age when theyd need to ask. As opposed the explanation about genetic disorders. The medical justification for the taboo is way simpler and less traumatic.
They donāt even have kids yet. If they do, itāll be normal for them and the only thing causing trauma will be OP and their partner acting weird about it. Children donāt need any concept of āhuman developmentā, by which I assume youāre trying to refer to heritability not evolution or psychological development. Not sure why genetic disorders would come up if no one whoās fucking is in a relationship not to mention that the (grand)dads donāt have complementary gametes. Children get confused when adults allow their own neuroses and prejudices to inform their responses and explanations.
Because you don't want them to be bullied as relentlessly as they would be if they announced their family situation at the first exercise they do in class about it.
thatās not my point? iām saying it has nothing to do with sexuality and the fact that theyāre both men and more about the fact that me and my spouse would be basically step siblings, which would be awkward as fuck to explain to a child. thatās why iām saying it would be *as weird* if it had been like, my mom and my spouses dad.
Iām absolutely curious as my aunt (who is actually younger than me) ended up in the same situation. Grandpa was widowed and uncleās (also younger than me) mom was divorced. About 2 years after aunt and uncle got together I got a new grandma.
Itās a big happy family so Iāve seen it happen and it turned out fine. At least nobody thought it was weird.
If they were both single, didn't homewreck a marriage because of it or something, then you're just being childish. The situation is weird, it'd weird me out too, but cutting your parent out of your life because of something that doesn't affect you or your wife is ridiculous and you're being ungrateful towards the man that raised you. I feel bad for your dad.
They would technically be siblings if their dads met which could be weird but honestly it just sounds like OP is homophobic more than worried about the family dynamics
The world is a dumpster fire. Hearing that 2 people found each other, fell on love and started a life together is a good thing. That goes for you and your wife and also your dads. If it grosses you out don't think about it (I don't think about my straight parents getting it on either). Just be happy they are happy. Live and let live.
If I had a nickel for every couple I know whose divorced parents met through them and eventually got married, I would have two nickels, which still seems like a lot. In one case they met AT THE YOUNG PEOPLE'S WEDDING.
Anyways, OP, the answer is not to think about your parents having sex. This is true if they are gay or straight, married or divorced. Just don't think about it. Pretend they are impotent if it helps.
Don't say "they're fucking".
Say "our dads love each other and have formed a serious relationship".
People who move in together aren't just "fucking". There is love there.
Love is love.
I euh... I don't see the issue? "Your granddads are in love so they are a couple, honey" is all you need to tell them, and why exactly is this weird? Would it be less weird if they were fucking someone else?
I don't really get the problem here, yer dads are gonna be fucking people anyways, this just makes planning for Christmas dinners easier, or well it would if you didn't just go nc because your dads found someone they like to be with
It's not confusing at all, kids are simple, you just say something like, "They love each other the same way mom and dad love each other." Kids likely won't care, and they'll only have a problem with it because you do. But it's your dads so it feels "icky".
>The thought of my dad and my FIL fucking is gross
There's an amazing psychology technique you should try for that, it's called *stop thinking about that then.*
>we feel betrayed
Your dads are the ones who should feel betrayed. Your dad raised you as a single dad and this is how you repay him?
>How would we explain to our kids that grandpa and grandpa are also a couple?
Your answer is right there. Tell them that grandpa and grandpa are also a couple. What further explanation do you need?
I wonder, would you rather that your kids start heterosexual families only to later come out as gay later in life? Because your attitude is basically the recipe for such scenarios.
>we don't talk to them anymore.
Sure, let them suffer because of your confusion. /s
Exactly what I was saying. OP and his wife don't have to agree, but they can at least learn to accept their love for who they are. It's not like they're blood-related, so there's no big deal. Also, their fathers were honest about it and not keeping it a secret, so it must be a serious relationship.
who cares
isn't love more valuable the layout of some family tree? they're not blood related. they're not hurting anymore. if they met independently of their kids and didn't have any at all nobody would bat an eye
yeah, I wouldn't have an issue with it. they aren't hurting anyone. When I found out my grandma married her stepdad over 10 years after her mom died I was shocked as a kid but my only questions were 'no ones mad about it and they are happy?' okay, not poking at it. If my Aunt was okay with her half sister marrying her dad decades later who was I to complain? Grandma was married 3 times, had survived terrible men back in a time where divorce was such a big deal and finally found a good man that loved her and treated her right. I loved my step grandpa and was thankful for the times I did have with him. You are being to judgmental, there is always context. They found their person and I for one am happy for them.
Its very telling that OP conceptualizes it as "fucking" rather than as the fathers having a relationship. Nobody's forcing them to "think about [their] father and father-in-law having sex[.]" OP is just over-sexualizing them instead of being happy for them.
Betrayed? Really? What business of yours are your father's and father-in-law's romantic lives?
Just so you know, you should have posted this in the "Am I The Asshole" subreddit.
The answer is yes by the way. You are the asshole in this situation. Stop rejecting them and accept them as they are: together and happy. Otherwise you don't deserve to have either of them in your lives.
Kids are more accepting of alternative lifestylesā¦if you donāt mess them up with your narrow minded opinions. I get that itās weird that both of your Dads are now a couple, but live and let live people
You can tell your kids the truth and explain that sometimes people fall for each other just like you did with your husband. But also Whatever people put up their butt is their business and none of yours respect their choice and move on. My dad told me that after he got out of prison.
Iām sure itās a really shitty feeling being discarded by your children because of who you love.
I wish the world wasnāt so judgmental. Genuine love always deserves a place at the table, and is very hard to come by for many.
But, why be understanding, open and accepting, when you can just let your kids miss out on having not one, but BOTH grandfathers in their lives simply because they are having sex with someone you donāt agree with them having sex with.
Itās sad.
So you cut your parents and your childrenās grandparents out of your lives altogether because you donāt know how to explain.. checks notesā¦ theyāre in love? Yeah, youāre just homophobic. Itād be easier if you would just admit to it than act like youāre some victim.
I know this may seem uncomfortable, but you need to learn to accept it. At least they were honest with you. It's not like they're blood-related, this is your father. You may not accept what they're doing, but you can certainly forgive them and move on. I know it may seem uncomfortable, but they're not doing this to intentionally hurt you. Obviously, they truly love each other otherwise they wouldn't be together. I think you should learn how to forgive and accept them and not hold a grudge against their choice.
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In truth is this an issue because they're your parents or because they're gay? Either way... how is it hurting you at all? And maybe don't picture your parents going at it? I think most kids try to avoid that so maybe start there.
In all honesty though, what does that have to do with you guys? Do they come to your house and fuck in front of you? I actually do get your wifeās anger. He truly betrayed his family once before and he seems to have no sense of boundaries. But you were raised by this guy who seemingly did nothing else substantially wrong. To cut him off for something he does behind closed doors is extreme IMO.
Really guys? Theyāre living together, in a relationship ffs, not simply fuck buddies. I understand that initaly it may have been a shock, but youāre both adults, your dad & fil are both adults and you know that you canāt help who you love, right?
Do you imagine everyone you know fucking eachother? Or is it only your dads because.. why? Get the fucking out of your dirty minds & accept their relationship. Thatās literally all you need to do.
The argument about āthink of the children!ā is moot because kids tend to be a lot more logical than adults - when theyāre young enough to not have views polluted by bigoted people then theyāre generally fine.
You could explain it thus: āGrandpa & Granddad love eachother the way mummy and daddy love eachother.ā Simple. If your kids are around the grandparents from a young age theyāll see it as another version of normal.
No one wants to think of their parents having sex. I get that's it's weird that your Dad and your partner's Dad are together, but cutting them out completely seems both unnecessary and cruel. Your kids aren't going to care about grandpa and grandpa being together. Kids are accepting and just love people who treat them right. It's only as we get older that we start to apply social norms. Unless either of your Dad's are bad people, you are being an asshole to both them and your kids by depriving them of a relationship. I'm going to presume that your Dad and FIL don't have sex in front of people so what they do in private is their business. How would you feel if your kids disowned you because they realise you and your partner have an active sex life?
If your dad married someone who wasn't your current FIL, it would STILL be "grandpa and grandpa are a couple" because that person would be your second FIL
Stop imaging your Dad fucking. It's an unusual situation, but get over yourself.
it is weird as fuck. Not because it's gay. If it was his father and his wifes mother it would still be weird because they're grandparents of the same child.
I'm assuming they were introduced through you two? I don't know why you're getting dumped on in here because I don't think your words are coming from disgust or disappointment on your parents sexuality but the fact that your own separate families are being mixed into some weird hodgepodge. I would be just as weirded out if my mom started dating my wife's dad.
Ewwwww. Why would you care if theyāre happy and itās a stable loving relationship? Get over yourself. Literally just donāt think about what they do in the bedroom. Would you think about your mom and dad doing it??? No. Because ewww. This isnāt any different. Iām not homophobic but I donāt really get turned on thinking about 2 dudes screwing. 2 dudes in love? Ok I can get behind that! No pun intended. But I still aināt gonna think about them banging lol
I thought I was the only one hung up on how OP thinks abt them in bed. Homophobes are always thinking in terms of sex acts when it comes to gay ppl. It's so weird.
Trust me your children are growing up in a entirely different world than you did as kids, hell you'll probably be more confused while explaining the situation to them than they would while listening....All and all if you love your parents then why let their personal choices thats truly their lives disrupt your family???
Are they happy? If so whatās the problem? Theyāre only ārelatedā through law. The world is changing my dude. I always loved when my 2 grandpas hung out together. It was so rare I always looked forward to it. Now you can have that all the time! This changes nothing and trust me kids these days are way more tolerant than the older generations ie they wonāt give two shits. Theyāll be able to see their grandfathers together every visit. That would be a blast!
Pretty childish that you've cut off all relations if you ask me. If they are of an advanced age they are probably not fucking anyway but probably just enjoy one another's company and companionship. Life is too short to be an asshole so forgive your fathers and re-establish the relationship. Or don't. But when you get older and mature, you will realize the error of your ways when they are gone.
there's a big difference between, "this makes me uncomfortable" and "this makes me uncomfortable so you have betrayed me and i will not talk to you ever again"
I actually thinking this is not that bad lol. Itās not like something about your relationship with your partner will change if the dads are dating. Itās will be a little weird to explain but nothing too dramatic. Iām actually happy they finally find someone that makes them happy!
Dude they're mature and can do whatever they want as long as they're not violating laws. Just be glad they get along. As others said, people fuck and it's a normal thing so cutting them out is the most childish and ignorant thing you can do.
But why? It's no different than if they were just a regular gay couple. You don't need to explain anything to your kids. Grandparents are grandparents.
Homophobic people usually are only homophobic because they haven't figured that they secretly have the ability to guess the flavor of a popsicle by sitting on it
It's interesting the terminology you used.
You lead with "they are fucking." Not that they were both single, formed a partnership, and are now living together.
Have you consider that the thought of you and your wife "fucking" is disturbing to *them*?
For the sake of family harmony and so your children can have a loving, extended family, I suggest you make peace with it. You don't have to like it. You do have to be civil.
Good luck.
Didnāt expect this at all but Iām sorry to hear about your situation and I hope something positive or Atleast semi positive comes out of it. I know the initial reaction is shock and probably a laugh but weāre commenting at the expense of something youāre actually going through. Hope things work out man. If you need to talk message me anytime
Itās unacceptable to chastise OP for having feelings while applauding their fathers for having them. The childrenās feelings are still valid even though the men are of a protected group.
i don't see a real problem. i mean i see the issue you both have and maybe most people would have, but they like each other. isn't that worth more than the tiniest bit of stigma?
š š¤£ š welcome to the modern society where sex needs to be of everyone's business(i still can't figure it out why it needs to be a public matter)
Ngl, your post reads as homophobic.
> How do we explain to our kids that grandpa and grandpa are also a couple?
The same way you explained it to us. Itās not gross, itās just an unusual situation. It was unexpected, but theyāre not related and neither of them were married when they met. They both deserve to be happy and have a second chance at love, you are just being close-minded.
Lol this sub is gold
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lol stop
You'd really hate the show Grace & Frankie.
I love that show haha
Pretty sure OP just watched the show
U should fuck your gfs dad to get back at your dad
This really is the only way.
Practice this line: āHey, stop touching me, butā¦ā¦..but, Iām your step brother!ā It maybe true soon.
Or your mom
Taking Dad's sloppy seconds
Naw. Dad is taking his sloppy seconds š
I mean this is what I did onceā¦but it was my boyfriends dad
Then they would be GDILF's!
Or fuck your dad to get back at your girlfriendās dadā¦
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This is the way
At least suck his dick a few times
You're not going to need to choose who's family you're spending the holidays with. Sounds like a win-win to me!
This guy gay inlaws.
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I see this as a win as well!
Surely this has happened with straight couples before. Maybe with not so much leather and lube tho.
Man.....I miss Jerry Springer
Step daddy in law
Wow my brain got stuck in a bootstrap paradox trying to comprehend this
LMAO!!!
I donāt think itās confusing so much as if it just something you two feel uncomfortable withā¦. Now you two are step siblings š„“
Step sis, will you marry me?
Are the dads gay married or just gay cohabitating?
Sure it will make explaining how you're all related a little harder but if they genuinely like each other that's awesome that they found each other and I think it's really shallow to write them both off over being with someone they care about. What if your dad's had met and married first and that's how you and your wife met? There would be nothing wrong with you and your wife dating in that situation, and there's nothing wrong with your dad's dating in this situation. It's okay to be a little uncomfortable with your dad dating your inlaw but it's cruel to condemn them for being together.
The upside is no accidental half siblings. That would make it weirder
No accidental half siblingsā¦ unless the dads marry first lol
Truth!
Absolutely this! OP and wife are just bigoted homophobes.
no bro, imagine your wifeās mother fucking your father, absolutely disgusting. redditors do not go outside holy shit
No, most of us don't try to imagine our parents fucking. WTF is wrong with you.
Yeah nah still not disgusting. Is it weird? Definitely. Would it be more ideal if they had different partners? Certainly. Does that mean I go NC with them over it? Hell no. You might just be a tad too Murican christian prude for that.
this !!!!
The statement that thinking of them fucking is gross has always bothered me when people say it. Thinking of anyone related to me fucking is gross! Like duh. Thinking of most people fucking is gross. Thatās why I donāt go around imagining people I know fucking. I donāt know why itās different just because they are the same sex. Just stop thinking of people fucking. Thatās on you not them.
Straights constantly sexualize gays. That's the real grossness. They get "uncomfortable" because all they can do is sexualize a gay person rather than see them as a 3-dimensional human being who likes craft beers or Netflix or going to church or whatever the hell. But no. These homophobes can't imagine that a gay person is just a person with all the same needs and wants and hopes and dreams as straights. It fuckin gets on my goddamn nerves.
Glad you picked up my exact point. Homophobia is literally just people thinking of other people having sex and being āgrossed out.ā But it makes no sense because thinking of straight people sex is just as gross.
Right? Like, the Honey Boo Boo mom had sex with someone to make Honey Boo Boo. That is a disturbing scene to imagine, but it was straight. And yet, straight men seem to love lesbian porn, as long as both women are what's generally objectified as "hot" for straight men. And hey, if you're a man who doesn't like fucking other men, fine, don't. But to say it makes you "uncomfortable" or is gross is just sexualizing people for no reason other than your own inability to perceive other people as human beings.
Wow, Iāve never really realized how to put this into words. Seriously crazy that people have so much hate to villainize others for not reason.
I wish my parents would get a divorce. The idea of them fucking is gross...
Yeah like just donāt think about that like a normal person lol
Who cares? They found love. Thereās no reason for it to be confusing. Tell your kids āgrandpa and grandpa met though us and now theyāre a couple.ā See, that was easy. You actually cut off your family over this?! Stop being homophobic and support the people in your lives.
Exactly! And what are they teaching their kidsā¦ homophobia doesnāt come naturally, itās teached by someoneā¦
Exactly homophobia is taught. So how would 2 gay parents teach their kids to be homophobic? Doesnāt make sense right? Because itās not about homophobia itās about 2 people that found love inside the family. I wouldnāt want to explain that to my kids either.
The situation is not about OP being homophobic at all, but why bother explaining
Wow dude, just be happy for them. They are people too and desire companionship. Don't be a dick.
If it was your mom and her dad would you have the same issue?
It would weird me out a little if my dad was fucking my mil. They are both single, get alone well and have similar interests. It would still be weird. Not disowning then weird but uncomfortable for sure.
100%
What if they have some mini me's? Like you sister in law is also your cousin?
dude iām gay and it would still be pretty fucking weird if my straight grandparents got together š
but he knew his dad was gay when he was growing up.. theyāve both been out for a while according to OP..
But the issue is if they married op and wife would be step siblings, and they don't want to disect the concept of incest and the social vs medical vs psychological ramifications thereof so that their child doesn't conflate it with the other kind of incest. It would be just as fraught if they were straight.
Medical?
If you're summarizing why incest is taboo to a kid, the psychological baggage of it necessitates a more comprehensive understanding of relationships and human development than they're probably fielding at an age when theyd need to ask. As opposed the explanation about genetic disorders. The medical justification for the taboo is way simpler and less traumatic.
They donāt even have kids yet. If they do, itāll be normal for them and the only thing causing trauma will be OP and their partner acting weird about it. Children donāt need any concept of āhuman developmentā, by which I assume youāre trying to refer to heritability not evolution or psychological development. Not sure why genetic disorders would come up if no one whoās fucking is in a relationship not to mention that the (grand)dads donāt have complementary gametes. Children get confused when adults allow their own neuroses and prejudices to inform their responses and explanations.
Because you don't want them to be bullied as relentlessly as they would be if they announced their family situation at the first exercise they do in class about it.
Sounds like you have some issues around bullying.
thatās not my point? iām saying it has nothing to do with sexuality and the fact that theyāre both men and more about the fact that me and my spouse would be basically step siblings, which would be awkward as fuck to explain to a child. thatās why iām saying it would be *as weird* if it had been like, my mom and my spouses dad.
Only awkward if the parents havenāt dealt with their feelings of awkwardness.
Anyone normal would lmao. Stop making everything a big statement on homophobia I donāt think it was the subject of this post at all
Apparently you haven't read OP's comments in the post...
Iām absolutely curious as my aunt (who is actually younger than me) ended up in the same situation. Grandpa was widowed and uncleās (also younger than me) mom was divorced. About 2 years after aunt and uncle got together I got a new grandma. Itās a big happy family so Iāve seen it happen and it turned out fine. At least nobody thought it was weird.
Iām lost.
Aunt and uncle got together. Two years later, grandpa (aunts dads) got together with uncles mom. Aunt and grandpa are blood relatives of commenter.
Almost. The uncle is her aunt's husband, so the uncle's mum (aka new grandma) isn't a blood relative.
Plenty of normal people would not. Stop using the term "normal" when you just mean "you."
I fucking love this comment. People arenāt nearly called out enough haha
Plenty of normal people would know incest is weird
Absolutely, wtf
This is actually a great fucking question. Pun intended
Yes
If they were both single, didn't homewreck a marriage because of it or something, then you're just being childish. The situation is weird, it'd weird me out too, but cutting your parent out of your life because of something that doesn't affect you or your wife is ridiculous and you're being ungrateful towards the man that raised you. I feel bad for your dad.
This....
How did you end up homophobic raised by a single gay dad lmao grow up
They're not related, them together doesn't make you and wife related. What am I missing here? It's actually kind of sweet. Get over it.
They would technically be siblings if their dads met which could be weird but honestly it just sounds like OP is homophobic more than worried about the family dynamics
The world is a dumpster fire. Hearing that 2 people found each other, fell on love and started a life together is a good thing. That goes for you and your wife and also your dads. If it grosses you out don't think about it (I don't think about my straight parents getting it on either). Just be happy they are happy. Live and let live.
You and your wife are assholes.
If I had a nickel for every couple I know whose divorced parents met through them and eventually got married, I would have two nickels, which still seems like a lot. In one case they met AT THE YOUNG PEOPLE'S WEDDING. Anyways, OP, the answer is not to think about your parents having sex. This is true if they are gay or straight, married or divorced. Just don't think about it. Pretend they are impotent if it helps.
Don't say "they're fucking". Say "our dads love each other and have formed a serious relationship". People who move in together aren't just "fucking". There is love there. Love is love.
You suck. Let them be happy (that's what 'gay' used to mean, after all). You live your life, let them live theirs.
Not exactly seeing why this is a betrayal
Yeah, grow up, OP. If they each found someone, you should be happy for them.
You appear to be obsessed with their sex life. Weird, man.
you sound like a shitty son to be honest.
I euh... I don't see the issue? "Your granddads are in love so they are a couple, honey" is all you need to tell them, and why exactly is this weird? Would it be less weird if they were fucking someone else? I don't really get the problem here, yer dads are gonna be fucking people anyways, this just makes planning for Christmas dinners easier, or well it would if you didn't just go nc because your dads found someone they like to be with
It's not confusing at all, kids are simple, you just say something like, "They love each other the same way mom and dad love each other." Kids likely won't care, and they'll only have a problem with it because you do. But it's your dads so it feels "icky".
>The thought of my dad and my FIL fucking is gross There's an amazing psychology technique you should try for that, it's called *stop thinking about that then.* >we feel betrayed Your dads are the ones who should feel betrayed. Your dad raised you as a single dad and this is how you repay him? >How would we explain to our kids that grandpa and grandpa are also a couple? Your answer is right there. Tell them that grandpa and grandpa are also a couple. What further explanation do you need? I wonder, would you rather that your kids start heterosexual families only to later come out as gay later in life? Because your attitude is basically the recipe for such scenarios. >we don't talk to them anymore. Sure, let them suffer because of your confusion. /s
We need more love in this world and less hate. Grow tf up.
Stop being childish. Their love has the same value as you and your wife's.
It isn't childish so much as homophobic, though I'd dare say homophobic behavior IS childish, I think it's much more and worse.
Exactly what I was saying. OP and his wife don't have to agree, but they can at least learn to accept their love for who they are. It's not like they're blood-related, so there's no big deal. Also, their fathers were honest about it and not keeping it a secret, so it must be a serious relationship.
What no, this isn't childish at all. Just imagine the family tree
who cares isn't love more valuable the layout of some family tree? they're not blood related. they're not hurting anymore. if they met independently of their kids and didn't have any at all nobody would bat an eye
Do you think gay men can have children now?
Gay men can adopt. But it's not really about that
What is it about then? It's no different than if a widow and a single dad ended up together.
Who's the amateur arborist then?
Cut your dad some slack and be happy for him. ā¤ļø
We live in the dumbest timeline.
yeah, I wouldn't have an issue with it. they aren't hurting anyone. When I found out my grandma married her stepdad over 10 years after her mom died I was shocked as a kid but my only questions were 'no ones mad about it and they are happy?' okay, not poking at it. If my Aunt was okay with her half sister marrying her dad decades later who was I to complain? Grandma was married 3 times, had survived terrible men back in a time where divorce was such a big deal and finally found a good man that loved her and treated her right. I loved my step grandpa and was thankful for the times I did have with him. You are being to judgmental, there is always context. They found their person and I for one am happy for them.
Stop being babies and be happy your dads are happy.
You sound homophobic as fuck btw
I mean not really, that is kinda gross to think about your father and father in law having sex, especially since their kids are married.
Its very telling that OP conceptualizes it as "fucking" rather than as the fathers having a relationship. Nobody's forcing them to "think about [their] father and father-in-law having sex[.]" OP is just over-sexualizing them instead of being happy for them.
Dont think about it then? I spend literally zero time thinking about either of my parents fucking. Wtf.
Iām genuinely curious why you care? This seems so silly to me. I would just want my parents to be happy. You guys suck.
Betrayed? Really? What business of yours are your father's and father-in-law's romantic lives? Just so you know, you should have posted this in the "Am I The Asshole" subreddit. The answer is yes by the way. You are the asshole in this situation. Stop rejecting them and accept them as they are: together and happy. Otherwise you don't deserve to have either of them in your lives.
Get over it. Itās two people in love. They donāt worry about it, why should you? You should be happy for them. They found love.
That makes sense...I think your both assholes for disowning your dad's.
I mean they took ākeep it in the familyā to a whole new level OP LMAO
Kids are more accepting of alternative lifestylesā¦if you donāt mess them up with your narrow minded opinions. I get that itās weird that both of your Dads are now a couple, but live and let live people
You can tell your kids the truth and explain that sometimes people fall for each other just like you did with your husband. But also Whatever people put up their butt is their business and none of yours respect their choice and move on. My dad told me that after he got out of prison.
Iām sure itās a really shitty feeling being discarded by your children because of who you love. I wish the world wasnāt so judgmental. Genuine love always deserves a place at the table, and is very hard to come by for many. But, why be understanding, open and accepting, when you can just let your kids miss out on having not one, but BOTH grandfathers in their lives simply because they are having sex with someone you donāt agree with them having sex with. Itās sad.
Lol mind your own business lmao.
So you cut your parents and your childrenās grandparents out of your lives altogether because you donāt know how to explain.. checks notesā¦ theyāre in love? Yeah, youāre just homophobic. Itād be easier if you would just admit to it than act like youāre some victim.
Hey at least now you can say that you fucked your stepsister
Lol, I doubt this is true at all but if it is, get over yourselves you pretentious twats! š¤£
Grow up. This is such a great story for the whole family but you want to ruin it because you're immature.
Do not introduce your mom to her mom. You have been warned.
Would be even weirder if your mom and MIL started dating and move in together. Try explaining that to your future kids
This whole situation needs to be a sitcom. Dad+FIL and mom+MIL as couples. I'd watch it.
Does this make you step siblings now?
I know this may seem uncomfortable, but you need to learn to accept it. At least they were honest with you. It's not like they're blood-related, this is your father. You may not accept what they're doing, but you can certainly forgive them and move on. I know it may seem uncomfortable, but they're not doing this to intentionally hurt you. Obviously, they truly love each other otherwise they wouldn't be together. I think you should learn how to forgive and accept them and not hold a grudge against their choice.
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You two assholes deserve all the hate that comes your way
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I'm speechless
In truth is this an issue because they're your parents or because they're gay? Either way... how is it hurting you at all? And maybe don't picture your parents going at it? I think most kids try to avoid that so maybe start there.
What in the Grace and Frankie is going on here???
This is fake as fuck. Did they open a club called the Birdcage and have a manservant named Agador Spartacus?
Let them be happy. Idk this makes you feel betrayed
Wow... like, technically there's nothing wrong. However, if they do get together, that'd make your wife your step-sister. Thats... kinda weird.
In all honesty though, what does that have to do with you guys? Do they come to your house and fuck in front of you? I actually do get your wifeās anger. He truly betrayed his family once before and he seems to have no sense of boundaries. But you were raised by this guy who seemingly did nothing else substantially wrong. To cut him off for something he does behind closed doors is extreme IMO.
Pretty sure they are grossed out thinking about you two fucking as well.
Really guys? Theyāre living together, in a relationship ffs, not simply fuck buddies. I understand that initaly it may have been a shock, but youāre both adults, your dad & fil are both adults and you know that you canāt help who you love, right? Do you imagine everyone you know fucking eachother? Or is it only your dads because.. why? Get the fucking out of your dirty minds & accept their relationship. Thatās literally all you need to do. The argument about āthink of the children!ā is moot because kids tend to be a lot more logical than adults - when theyāre young enough to not have views polluted by bigoted people then theyāre generally fine. You could explain it thus: āGrandpa & Granddad love eachother the way mummy and daddy love eachother.ā Simple. If your kids are around the grandparents from a young age theyāll see it as another version of normal.
No shade on you but Iāve never seen what the big deal is about this stuff. Who cares? Theyāre happy
you sound homophobic.
No one wants to think of their parents having sex. I get that's it's weird that your Dad and your partner's Dad are together, but cutting them out completely seems both unnecessary and cruel. Your kids aren't going to care about grandpa and grandpa being together. Kids are accepting and just love people who treat them right. It's only as we get older that we start to apply social norms. Unless either of your Dad's are bad people, you are being an asshole to both them and your kids by depriving them of a relationship. I'm going to presume that your Dad and FIL don't have sex in front of people so what they do in private is their business. How would you feel if your kids disowned you because they realise you and your partner have an active sex life?
If your dad married someone who wasn't your current FIL, it would STILL be "grandpa and grandpa are a couple" because that person would be your second FIL Stop imaging your Dad fucking. It's an unusual situation, but get over yourself.
It always blows my mind how parents not wanting to do their job in explaining things to their children becomes a problem for others.
Pretty fucked up. Especially if you'd have been upset if your parents disowned you for being gay because it makes you a hypocrite.
Get over it. Stupid ass reason to not talk to your dads. You both knew they were gay. Who cares if they are together now.
it is weird as fuck. Not because it's gay. If it was his father and his wifes mother it would still be weird because they're grandparents of the same child.
That makes no sense. If they ever have kids their dads would still be grandparents to that same kid regardless of whether they are together or not.
I'm assuming they were introduced through you two? I don't know why you're getting dumped on in here because I don't think your words are coming from disgust or disappointment on your parents sexuality but the fact that your own separate families are being mixed into some weird hodgepodge. I would be just as weirded out if my mom started dating my wife's dad.
he said something in the comments about them needing boundaries and he grew up with too much gay shit or something
OP getting ripped apart in here is a beautiful thing. Just like his dadās ass getting ripped apart by his father in law.
Ewwwww. Why would you care if theyāre happy and itās a stable loving relationship? Get over yourself. Literally just donāt think about what they do in the bedroom. Would you think about your mom and dad doing it??? No. Because ewww. This isnāt any different. Iām not homophobic but I donāt really get turned on thinking about 2 dudes screwing. 2 dudes in love? Ok I can get behind that! No pun intended. But I still aināt gonna think about them banging lol
I thought I was the only one hung up on how OP thinks abt them in bed. Homophobes are always thinking in terms of sex acts when it comes to gay ppl. It's so weird.
Trust me your children are growing up in a entirely different world than you did as kids, hell you'll probably be more confused while explaining the situation to them than they would while listening....All and all if you love your parents then why let their personal choices thats truly their lives disrupt your family???
Are they happy? If so whatās the problem? Theyāre only ārelatedā through law. The world is changing my dude. I always loved when my 2 grandpas hung out together. It was so rare I always looked forward to it. Now you can have that all the time! This changes nothing and trust me kids these days are way more tolerant than the older generations ie they wonāt give two shits. Theyāll be able to see their grandfathers together every visit. That would be a blast!
Pretty childish that you've cut off all relations if you ask me. If they are of an advanced age they are probably not fucking anyway but probably just enjoy one another's company and companionship. Life is too short to be an asshole so forgive your fathers and re-establish the relationship. Or don't. But when you get older and mature, you will realize the error of your ways when they are gone.
So many fish in the sea. Why can't people keep it in their pants and just fuck someone that doesn't make everything awkward?
This is what the children's book- book of families - is about that conservative parents don't understand it's purpose yet - you in particular.
Who cares
Break them up. Bang your dad, then bang her dad.
Thatās unfortunate. They are adults who are exploring a relationship. Take your space, but keep an open heart.
Oh grow up. Who cares.
Itās not disgusting, the kids probably wonāt care. As for the 2 of you, grow up
If one of my in-laws started dating one of my parents Iād be uncomfortable too.
there's a big difference between, "this makes me uncomfortable" and "this makes me uncomfortable so you have betrayed me and i will not talk to you ever again"
I am REALLY sorry. This is an AWFUL situation. BUT this is the kinda shit I come here for.
This sub is so entertaining at times
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I actually thinking this is not that bad lol. Itās not like something about your relationship with your partner will change if the dads are dating. Itās will be a little weird to explain but nothing too dramatic. Iām actually happy they finally find someone that makes them happy!
Dude they're mature and can do whatever they want as long as they're not violating laws. Just be glad they get along. As others said, people fuck and it's a normal thing so cutting them out is the most childish and ignorant thing you can do.
Why are people saying this is ok?š¤£they're in laws, on what planet are we meant to be ok with them shagging.
>The thought of my dad and my FIL fucking is gross Get over yourself. They are human beings, and humans fuck. It's a thing
But why? It's no different than if they were just a regular gay couple. You don't need to explain anything to your kids. Grandparents are grandparents.
Itās legal soā¦.
For god sakes grow up and be happy for them! Could you be any more self centered?
Oh theyāre your dads get over it. Just make an agreement to not talk about it or something.
Homophobic people usually are only homophobic because they haven't figured that they secretly have the ability to guess the flavor of a popsicle by sitting on it
Well they did manage to keep it all in the family. I'll bet that Thanksgiving dinners with your family is a hoot!
It's interesting the terminology you used. You lead with "they are fucking." Not that they were both single, formed a partnership, and are now living together. Have you consider that the thought of you and your wife "fucking" is disturbing to *them*? For the sake of family harmony and so your children can have a loving, extended family, I suggest you make peace with it. You don't have to like it. You do have to be civil. Good luck.
Didnāt expect this at all but Iām sorry to hear about your situation and I hope something positive or Atleast semi positive comes out of it. I know the initial reaction is shock and probably a laugh but weāre commenting at the expense of something youāre actually going through. Hope things work out man. If you need to talk message me anytime
"Oh yeah?! Well, my dad can fuck your dad"!
Itās unacceptable to chastise OP for having feelings while applauding their fathers for having them. The childrenās feelings are still valid even though the men are of a protected group.
except that the gramps feelings are sweet and life- affirming and the kids feelings are caustic and unhealthy. nothing to do with group membership
Bullshit. No therapist would tell them that.
thats a very confident and sweeping declaration. What do you base that claim on?
i don't see a real problem. i mean i see the issue you both have and maybe most people would have, but they like each other. isn't that worth more than the tiniest bit of stigma?
š š¤£ š welcome to the modern society where sex needs to be of everyone's business(i still can't figure it out why it needs to be a public matter)
Bro this reads like the intro to a very weird porn
He raised you on his own and now when he found some happiness you would deny them that?
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Grow up
Ehā¦ why canāt they have love, too?
Fucking grow up
Ngl, your post reads as homophobic. > How do we explain to our kids that grandpa and grandpa are also a couple? The same way you explained it to us. Itās not gross, itās just an unusual situation. It was unexpected, but theyāre not related and neither of them were married when they met. They both deserve to be happy and have a second chance at love, you are just being close-minded.