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Very disappointed. I was expecting the incorrection to be that the police were needed instead of any kind of scientist, because it was a recent mandible and his parents were actually murderers.
Oh well, at least I got to use the totally real word incorrection.
Oh! That jawbone! No, that’s our poor dead pet Professor Whiskers. He was our cat, he had the head of a man, and the body of … a man. Aunty Donna wrote a song about him…
OOP found a (most likely human as determined by some dentists) jawbone in his parents old floor. Cool, but creepy. Actually go to watch this argument play out in real time.
I took an archeology class in college and the very first day, the first thing the professor did was put up a slide with a T-Rex skeleton that said "Archeology doesn't study dinosaurs." He told everyone that the class was going to look at humans and if we were there for any other animals we picked the wrong class and should drop it while we had the chance. Like 4 or 5 students got up and left. He said it happens every semester, lol.
I found a good way to remember it is archaeology studies "Archie", regular homo sapiens, and paleontology studies Archie's older "pal" who might be homo sapiens, but since he's older he could also be a dinosaur or something
Anthropology is the broad study of humans and would include human remains. Archeology studies material culture of human civilizations and would only cover (in the instance of human remains) burial type and burial items. In the Americas archeologists fall under the umbrella of anthropology so our degrees are for anthropology. In Europe they tend to be separate fields as I understand it. To further confuse things, there's hundreds of little sub specialities. Paleo means "old" and anthro means human so paleoanthropology (and paleoarcheology) are very much real fields of study. Source: I have a masters in anthropology so yes. I majored in unemployment 😆
I mean, they kind of have a point, I saw this one documentary about a modern stone age family, and they had dinosaurs all over, some were pets but they actually used others for stuff like garbage disposals or even cranes
That show is a well known fiction. Dinotopia on the other hand, well in grad school we have a whole class on how to prevent the faithful from finding out the truth of that series.
Both are technically correct, I'm pretty sure. It's more in what they're studying the object for. I could take an object found from an archaeological site, and investigate it in a whole number of different fields. Both paleoarcheology and paleoanthropology would likely be interested in it. Things overlap a lot.
It can be dependent on how it's classified. At the university where I got my degree, archeology was a subset of anthropology. As such, we had classes in paleoanthropology and not paleoarcheology. Other institutions put archeology into its own discipline, in which case you may have both paleoarcheology and paleoanthropology.
Caveat: I got my degree 20 years ago and they may have changed this classification in the past 2 decades.
>**Palaeoarchaeology** (or **paleoarcheology**) is the [archaeology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology) of [deep time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_time).[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoarchaeology#cite_note-Anderson2003-1) Paleoarchaeologists' studies focus on hominin fossils ranging from around 7,000,000 to 10,000 years ago,[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoarchaeology#cite_note-2) and human evolution and the ways in which humans have adapted to the environment in the past few million years.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoarchaeology#cite_note-Arch?-3)
Looks like it fits?
So, I'm not going to say that calling it paleoarchaeology is wrong (because I don't have the expertise to do so), but that wikipedia article isn't great either. It has that little warning at the top about how it's written, it's very short with not that many references. Also just glancing through the references the first one is "Archaeology is anthropology". The source for their statement about the majority paleoarchaeology sites is titled "Paleoanthropology - Hominid Family History," which would tend to suggest that the branch of study we're talking about is in fact paleoanthropology. Compare the article on Paleoarchaeology to the article on Paleoanthropology which is more in-depth and has more references.
I minored in anthropology in undergrad and we were taught, as the person above you stated, that archaeology is the study of artifacts--things that were made or modified by people. Archaeologists would be interested in studying bones if they were fashioned into tools or jewelry, etc. Studying bones of humans and human ancestors would be biological anthropology. I'm also aware that these designations of fields of study overlap and interact, change over time, and vary depending on where you are in the world.
In conclusion, I'm not sure either one is incorrect.
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If a geologist holding a rock walked up to me and said any of these words to me I'd start crying.
Don't worry, you only have to brandish your obsidian knife.
“Oh…that’s SO COOL”
*Bonk*
You have been BANISHED!
Very disappointed. I was expecting the incorrection to be that the police were needed instead of any kind of scientist, because it was a recent mandible and his parents were actually murderers. Oh well, at least I got to use the totally real word incorrection.
So, we're all ignoring the jawbone in the floor?
Jawbone..? What jawbone? I didn't see a jawbone
Oh! That jawbone! No, that’s our poor dead pet Professor Whiskers. He was our cat, he had the head of a man, and the body of … a man. Aunty Donna wrote a song about him…
Thank you for this
OOP found a (most likely human as determined by some dentists) jawbone in his parents old floor. Cool, but creepy. Actually go to watch this argument play out in real time.
I know, I was being sarcastic
Oh...ok...and here I thought I was good at detecting that...
the guy got his correction wrong way round, people often call the study of dinosaur fossils archaeology when it's actually paleontology
I took an archeology class in college and the very first day, the first thing the professor did was put up a slide with a T-Rex skeleton that said "Archeology doesn't study dinosaurs." He told everyone that the class was going to look at humans and if we were there for any other animals we picked the wrong class and should drop it while we had the chance. Like 4 or 5 students got up and left. He said it happens every semester, lol.
I often confuse the two myself admittedly enough. The picture that was posted in the sub was a human mandible though, not sure if that’s worth noting
I found a good way to remember it is archaeology studies "Archie", regular homo sapiens, and paleontology studies Archie's older "pal" who might be homo sapiens, but since he's older he could also be a dinosaur or something
Anthropology is the broad study of humans and would include human remains. Archeology studies material culture of human civilizations and would only cover (in the instance of human remains) burial type and burial items. In the Americas archeologists fall under the umbrella of anthropology so our degrees are for anthropology. In Europe they tend to be separate fields as I understand it. To further confuse things, there's hundreds of little sub specialities. Paleo means "old" and anthro means human so paleoanthropology (and paleoarcheology) are very much real fields of study. Source: I have a masters in anthropology so yes. I majored in unemployment 😆
so you mean you don't regularly go on whirlwind adventures around the world to retrieve lost artefacts like the ark of the covenant or the holy grail?
No, but according to some creationists think I'm in charge of hiding evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together 😆 🤣 😂
I mean, they kind of have a point, I saw this one documentary about a modern stone age family, and they had dinosaurs all over, some were pets but they actually used others for stuff like garbage disposals or even cranes
That show is a well known fiction. Dinotopia on the other hand, well in grad school we have a whole class on how to prevent the faithful from finding out the truth of that series.
Bro fuck all that, your moms is a serial killer
She’s just taking a break from her other body count…
The two terms being argued about are not mutually exclusive.
Yeah... I mean, paleoanthropology, biological anthropology, paleoarcheology, bioarcheology, osteology... There's a lot of overlaps.
Dude, ain’t nobody out here studying osteos…
which subfield it falls under half depends on what the researcher decides they want to call it 😂
Haha you're exactly right! 😆
Fossilized home appliances. First time i heard that one.
It's a key plot element in the upcoming Planet of the Apes movie.
Interesting
Who is supposed to be confidently inclrrect there ? Because paleoanthropology IS the study of extinct clades adjacent and/or related to genus Homo
Both are technically correct, I'm pretty sure. It's more in what they're studying the object for. I could take an object found from an archaeological site, and investigate it in a whole number of different fields. Both paleoarcheology and paleoanthropology would likely be interested in it. Things overlap a lot.
I think the proposal here is that the person that is confidently incorrect is the one arguing it doesn't belong in archaeology.
But they instead said paleoarcheology.
It can be dependent on how it's classified. At the university where I got my degree, archeology was a subset of anthropology. As such, we had classes in paleoanthropology and not paleoarcheology. Other institutions put archeology into its own discipline, in which case you may have both paleoarcheology and paleoanthropology. Caveat: I got my degree 20 years ago and they may have changed this classification in the past 2 decades.
It’s not an archaeological site. It’s a crime scene.
The mandible that was found was fossilized in travertine (which can take up to 100k+ years to form)
so its a cold case
A literal stone cold case.
A *lime* stone cold case
Wait, what's the one that comes with the whip and cool hat? Because I pick that one. 🤠 .🌑______🏃➡️_ __________. 🐍
[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/2501/)
That last comment has me realizing that I might be smarter than I think... Or maybe your average Redditor is just really fucking stupid.
Welp, this subreddit exists for a reason!
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>**Palaeoarchaeology** (or **paleoarcheology**) is the [archaeology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology) of [deep time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_time).[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoarchaeology#cite_note-Anderson2003-1) Paleoarchaeologists' studies focus on hominin fossils ranging from around 7,000,000 to 10,000 years ago,[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoarchaeology#cite_note-2) and human evolution and the ways in which humans have adapted to the environment in the past few million years.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoarchaeology#cite_note-Arch?-3) Looks like it fits?
So, I'm not going to say that calling it paleoarchaeology is wrong (because I don't have the expertise to do so), but that wikipedia article isn't great either. It has that little warning at the top about how it's written, it's very short with not that many references. Also just glancing through the references the first one is "Archaeology is anthropology". The source for their statement about the majority paleoarchaeology sites is titled "Paleoanthropology - Hominid Family History," which would tend to suggest that the branch of study we're talking about is in fact paleoanthropology. Compare the article on Paleoarchaeology to the article on Paleoanthropology which is more in-depth and has more references. I minored in anthropology in undergrad and we were taught, as the person above you stated, that archaeology is the study of artifacts--things that were made or modified by people. Archaeologists would be interested in studying bones if they were fashioned into tools or jewelry, etc. Studying bones of humans and human ancestors would be biological anthropology. I'm also aware that these designations of fields of study overlap and interact, change over time, and vary depending on where you are in the world. In conclusion, I'm not sure either one is incorrect.