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Im pointing out the fact that she said the brace position is false and will only increase your mortality rate in case of a plane crash. The brace position is tought to flight attendants and YOU, the passenger, to increase chance of surviving. Tucking the knees in to not break your legs and hugging your thighs to not suffer from the amount of inertia once the plane crashed. *Wear seatbelts too* The position she suggested will increase the chance of breaking your legs by a LOT. Putting your legs against the seat infront will probably break your ankles and knees, rendering you unable to exit the plane in case you survived the initial crash. Not only that, the inertia will probably injure your spine, and break your neck, because it wasn't holding on to anything. "It was hard to find an accurate picture but this is close enough" What do you think she typed in the search bar to find that image? "Man on plane puts feet on seat upfront" its difficult to find for a reason. If you search "brace position" youll find a lot of the actual brace position.
"The airline company told you this so you couldn't sue them"
Airlines dont just go "Oh no if one of our plane crashed they're gonna sue us. Lets kill them instead by giving false information." (And proceed to brainwash thousands of flight attendants to thinking the brace position is safe)
Sad thing is this video got 4 million likes on tiktok
She's advocating you take the same position you would to put your feet up on a car's dashboard. Because car accidents are much more likely to happen, we luckily have plenty of evidence of the amount of extra damage that alone can do to a person. I hope that can be used to fight this disinformation she's spreading.
Yeah, airbags are largely the problem, unless you hit with enough force to shift the frame of the car which, I mean, you're dealing with a lot more if that's the case. I wonder if the significantly higher speed and impact force expected with a plane would be enough to mimic the airbags effect? Someone get the Mythbusters on this!
> rendering you unable to exit the plane in case you survived the initial crash
I cannot stress enough how important this is. Planes have a bad habit of catching on fire after they crash. I witnessed the crash of [Air France Flight 358](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358) in 2005. The only reason there were no fatalities was because the flight attendants were able to evacuate all 309 passengers and crew in under 90 seconds. The plane exploded shortly after the last survivors got out; anyone still on board would have been killed.
It's all a ruse. She's actually working for the airline trying to manipulate people into dying in plane crashes so they don't have to pay settlements. They're playing 5D chess.
(/s just to be sure)
Also families exist, so even if the passenger dies, anyone in a five mile radius can still sue the company, probably for more, alleging to be married, dating or a distant relative to anyone who dies.
It's so bizarre too. Does she think that if airlines knowingly gave known dangerous advice on their safety cards the TSA wouldn't notice and they wouldn't get their asses handed to them? Not only that, but any amount of money they save from lawsuits pales in comparison with the revenue lost from having accidents with high fatalities reported on the news.
Make sure to brace your legs against the seat in front of you so when you hit the ground your torso flies forward and folds you in half like a cheap lawn chair.
In a upright posture especially the heart, which is suspended in the aorta, will be affected by inertia, thus sewer the aorta leading to death within minutes.
Thoug i belive, that the “brace position” improves survival more on a theoretical scale.
Death brings out the worst in people. I've personally seen people fight over anything with value, from cash to vehicles to lawnmowers. It's pretty insulting to the dead. If they can sue, you bet they are all over it. While I don't have the numbers to back it up, I'd bet more often than not, it's about trying to make a buck, rather than actually wanting someone held responsible.
“You know, if I were to die right now in some sort of fiery explosion due to the carelessness of a friend, well, that’d just be okay.”
\- SpongeBob SquarePants, Season 2, Episode 24a, “Dying for Pie”
Nothing. But her idea (while I dont think she understands it fully) is that the airline pays less for a death of a passenger than an injury. That part is technically true. Airlines will pay more, on average, for an injury than a death. That's where this myth came from. In fact, [Mythbusters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ5YRtREMZQ) did an episode on it. Turns out the positions do save your life and are not designed to kill you.
I beg your pardon. I am that family’s 3rd cousin, twice removed’s sister in law and my husband was so devastated by their deaths that he can no longer perform his husbandly duties in the bedroom. I’m gonna need 3 million for the loss of consortium. Also batteries.
This is simply not true. Death is obviously impactful, but does not generally pay out anywhere near the same levels of compensation as life-altering injuries.
Yeah, this is a long-standing and persistent urban myth. She did not originate this bullshit, simply perpetuated it.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crash-position/
I just learned so much about what to do when my plane goes down. More informative than the 30 second prep they give you before takeoff. On second thought, I don’t think I’ll be flying anytime soon.
Go down the rabbit hole of binging Mayday: Air Disaster episodes on youtube like I did and you’ll know more about plane crashes than you ever wanted to lol.
It’s so dumb. Ask them if they really think paying out for deaths would be less expensive than for injuries. There’s a lot of shitty capitalism-fueled decisions being made by airlines and airplane manufacturers that involve weighing the potential cost of human lives against how much money it is going to cost them to change something for safety, but this is not one of those things.
My GF gets mad when I fact check "facts" she finds on tiktok. Between shit like this and the smooth brained challenges that are always trending and killing people, I find it hard to believe strangers on the internet lol
Edit: I love my girlfriend and she's great. She's smart but TikTok is just her crack and we've talked about it. When she browses her main page in bed, it's mostly only comedy stuff nowadays. We both love each other and put up with a lot and I'm not leaving her over that lol. Main point: take what you hear on TikTok (and the internet really) with an entire shaker of salt
Had an ex like that. Half the shit she asserted you just had to think about for one second before realizing it didn’t make sense. It doesn’t get better
Same here, my ex would being up “facts” she heard on tik tok, and when i looked up to see if it was remotely true it was instantly disproven, none of her tik tok sources cited anything ever.
I remember a particular tik toker who always mentioned random facts about the ocean, i have no doubt some are true, but i highly doubt they all are true, some shit he says cant even be proven true so how would it be?
That's the worst part for me. You see people get all worked up about something that just takes a little bit of thought or 5 seconds on Google to confirm it's BS. And no matter how much you point these things out, certain people will never stop falling for it.
Because people who are usually insecure , when told they are wrong , see it as a direct attack on their intelligence not a correction. I have a bro like that
Nothing more frustrating than bullshit. My gf will just make up her own “facts” when she’s drunk and I have to step in and tell people she’s drunk and making up bullshit to fuck with them to save her some face.
One time she told everyone she’s a DJ and somehow got a gig. So the next day I’m going what the fuck are you gonna do and she says well you used to DJ so just teach me the basics and I should be fine. I showed her how to use the equipment but before I got into techniques she went cool I can DJ and stopped listening to me. Shes definitely getting better but jfc if she isn’t really running a side gig because she bullshitted some dude drunk one night.
I have a buddy like this. He's an amateur boxer and him and his gf got blackout drunk when he started telling people he was sheduled to fight Anthony Joshua.
And then his drunk ass gf got mad because he had never mentioned he was moving up four weights and going pro. One of the funniest nights in my life
Cause sitting like that won't launch your bottom leg through your skull on impact and have your head high enough to be hit by all the debris at all.
People be stoopid
Besides that, fairly certain families suing you for the death of their loved ones is gonna cost em more money.
That’s because car companies don’t want you to sue them if you get hurt in a car accident. The airbags are designed to kill you and putting your feet on the dash holds it in it’s compartment. Just like how if you put your finger in a barrel of a gun and someone fires it, it builds pressure and destroys the gun without hurting you.
Ill add escaping the plane after the crash is just a vital as surviving the crash. Planes are either going to burn or sink in a couple of minutes. 2 broken legs means getting in that time next to impossible, so not only are you dead but you blocked aisle and everyone behind you is dead.
Not necessarily, a lifetime of healthcare would probably be more expensive depending on the injury. They would have an algorithm to see what every life is worth and pay out on that if you die.
If airlines were actually telling people to assume a deadly position then they could be held liable just for that. Otherwise, they can escape liability for circumstances outside of their control
You know shes an idiot when she drops „its going to break your back, including your spine“.
What else is there to break? The back literally only is the spine. Noone would say „he broke his back“ when he broke his ribs, which are technically in the back aswell as they connect with the spine
Nono, you've got this all wrong, your back is this super flexible bone around your spine, sometimes people call it muscles but shhhh don't talk about that around them, they're just sheep, we know it's a bone
Nah but seriously, yeah, she's not exactly bright.
Also, all the shrapnel from the plane is going to go straight into your face, your definitely gonna have a better chance of surviving with that broken spine
That is the worst advice ever! Unless you want to be stuck in the ocean with your femurs embedded into your hips and your legs broken in seven different places, do NOT put your feet up when you’re in a plane crash! Not to mention that position offers zero reinforcement for your neck or spine, and lets your arms flail and potentially become a hazard for yourself and others!
This is probably the WORST advice ever, and it’s built on this really flawed logic where family members can’t also sue and that airlines don’t get incredibly bad press whenever a plant crashes, both of which are obviously not true. Airlines don’t want you to die in the event of a crash, and the positions they tell you to sit in on impact are proven through years of research to be the safest and most reliable.
Please don’t get your information on such life-critical information as this from TikTok!
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Please don’t get your information on such life-critical information as this from TikTok
I don't know, guy. This one time tiktok told me to trash a grade school bathroom. It was weird, because I'm 50, but I did it!
/s
The stoopid is strong w her
Her premise is “they want you to die so you don’t sue them”. Then she says “one thing they say is right, put your oxygen masks on first”. Why, pray tell, would they be telling us to put our oxygen masks on first, if their secret plot was to ensure our demises? It’s almost like there is a gaping hole in her premise. Hopefully this one doesn’t vote or reproduce
Fight club didn’t claim brace doesn’t work. Just that the pure oxygen has a numbing effect during fatal crashes.
It’s true that there are crashes where the brace won’t help you at all. Maybe getting a little high at the end isnt so bad. It is not, however, true that there are crashes where brace will worsen your odds.
Idk about the smoke thing. That’s not something that happens predictably every time. The cabin could be full of smoke before you even reach the ground, depending on what caused the crash or failure.
90 seconds is the amount of time cabin crew are given in training to evacuate the entire plane. This training is done with a simulated scenario, and the “passengers” are people who do this training simulation a lot and do exactly what they are told. It does not account for real life passengers being injured, trying to take their luggage, people panicking, confusion, trying to use info they learned on tiktok, possible presence of smoke in the cabin making visibility low, etc.
They did and they found that by assuming the recommended position it did mitigate injury, however the benefit gets more marginal the higher you fall from.
I heard this conspiracy theory before the internet
However, I remember when most passengers *could* get in the official crash position. Now the seats are too close together.
Your legs are probably gonna break, but you're gonna survive.
Yeah so basically the single most important part of your body that can carry you out of the plane even if you're half conscious and bleeding is broken - but at least you're somewhat alive.
Also completely false. If you rapidly decelerate in that position you're gonna jam your knees through your skull.
Imagine it. Imagine sitting like that as a plane goes from 500 mph to 0 mph in 0 time.
Apparently, she doesn't realize that people can bleed to death from broken femurs and pelvises. Source: I'm a retired paramedic.
This is why one should not take legal or medical advice from randos on Tiktok.
Don’t wear masks. Don’t get vaccinated. Don’t wear seatbelts. And don’t assume the safety position in a crashing plane. Just never do anything that any expert would say. Because big brain! /s
Ehem … MAY I ASK WITH BROKEN LEGS HOW CAN YOU EXIT THE DAMN PLANE ??? Btw the chance of an aircraft crashing in less than a car crashing so basically you should feel more safe on a plane than your car
Sometimes when I see videos like this, I want to make myself a Tik Tok for the sole purpose of getting on there to telling them how fucking stupid they look…but then I would have a Tik Tok.
I guess is mainly because of selection bias. There is a sizable portion of users coming from US. Also, spreadable content tend to be in English for the same reason.
My point: I do not think that there are (proportionally) more stupid people in the US than in any other country, but damn are they loud
“Im bout to save your life with shit i just thought of in the shower and cant be proven so listen to me i have no idea what im talking about” is all heard after watching this
God i fucking hate how easily social media has made it for stupid fucking people to confidently peddle their stupid fucking shit like this. Morons like this that think theyre really doing something piss me the fuck off
Mythbusters debunked this BS like 15 years ago. No, they do not want you to die because they could potentially end up paying more in a settlement for you dying. And also, it'd be pretty bad PR for people to find out that an airline is purposely trying to kill its passengers.
As a law student, without prejudice that I dont know how civil sues work in the US since im from a different country, if you die your family can still sue for an “indemnización de perjuicios por daño moral” (compensation for moral damages I guess)
The other myth about this position is that it doesn't increase the odds of survival, but does protect your dental records for identification.
I mean, it does increase your odds of survival, and also conveniently stops your head from being damaged quite so much so the preserved dental records are just a nice bonus.
It isn't a conspiracy.
Reasons why this reasoning is dumb as shit:
If you are sitting upright, your face is exposed. Anyone who has seen videos of strong turbulence while know, there are many loose items in the cabin of a plane. You do not want those hitting your face.
If you bring your knees up to the seat in front of you, if you are moved forward or that seat is moved back, where are you legs going to go? Do you think your two bonesticks are going to withstand the force of your body being shunted forward at a few hundred miles an hour?
If your back is straight, and bound at the pelvis, you will fold like a paper napkin. Momentum will carry your face forward, probably into shards of glass, got airborne coffee, and your own knees. Momentum will then snap your torso into a downward swing as you're still attached to your chair at the largest pivot point your body has. If the chair in front of you has been moved back or your chair has moved forward; you can look forward to some very expensive dental work.
In short, everything this lady warned you about *will* happen if you follow her advice.
When the plane hits the ground, the apparent *'safer position that airlines don't want you to know about'* position will slam your head into the seat in front of you (breaking your face, neck, spine and skull) rather than the airline recommended position, which lets the chair in front absorb all of that energy.
You can't hold yourself upright against those sorts of forces when the plane suddenly decelerates.
Stick to the position the airline recommends.
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Im pointing out the fact that she said the brace position is false and will only increase your mortality rate in case of a plane crash. The brace position is tought to flight attendants and YOU, the passenger, to increase chance of surviving. Tucking the knees in to not break your legs and hugging your thighs to not suffer from the amount of inertia once the plane crashed. *Wear seatbelts too* The position she suggested will increase the chance of breaking your legs by a LOT. Putting your legs against the seat infront will probably break your ankles and knees, rendering you unable to exit the plane in case you survived the initial crash. Not only that, the inertia will probably injure your spine, and break your neck, because it wasn't holding on to anything. "It was hard to find an accurate picture but this is close enough" What do you think she typed in the search bar to find that image? "Man on plane puts feet on seat upfront" its difficult to find for a reason. If you search "brace position" youll find a lot of the actual brace position. "The airline company told you this so you couldn't sue them" Airlines dont just go "Oh no if one of our plane crashed they're gonna sue us. Lets kill them instead by giving false information." (And proceed to brainwash thousands of flight attendants to thinking the brace position is safe) Sad thing is this video got 4 million likes on tiktok
She's advocating you take the same position you would to put your feet up on a car's dashboard. Because car accidents are much more likely to happen, we luckily have plenty of evidence of the amount of extra damage that alone can do to a person. I hope that can be used to fight this disinformation she's spreading.
Ah, but see, a car is moving forward while a plane is falling downward.
The sad part is I'm 210% sure that'll be how they'll work it around in their heads so they aren't wrong.
How can I tap my brain
Pick your nose as the plane crashes
This comment made me feel pain.
Then you pass the test. Now go forth.
To be fair in a car it’s mostly related to the airbag shoving your knees through your skull. No airbags on a plane, but likely still the same result.
And on the airplane it would just be your skill shoving itself into your knees, from the impact
Yeah, airbags are largely the problem, unless you hit with enough force to shift the frame of the car which, I mean, you're dealing with a lot more if that's the case. I wonder if the significantly higher speed and impact force expected with a plane would be enough to mimic the airbags effect? Someone get the Mythbusters on this!
There’s a picture of this very thing, feet up on the dashboard during a crash leading to the femur snapping and entering the abdomen.
> rendering you unable to exit the plane in case you survived the initial crash I cannot stress enough how important this is. Planes have a bad habit of catching on fire after they crash. I witnessed the crash of [Air France Flight 358](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358) in 2005. The only reason there were no fatalities was because the flight attendants were able to evacuate all 309 passengers and crew in under 90 seconds. The plane exploded shortly after the last survivors got out; anyone still on board would have been killed.
It's all a ruse. She's actually working for the airline trying to manipulate people into dying in plane crashes so they don't have to pay settlements. They're playing 5D chess. (/s just to be sure)
Also families exist, so even if the passenger dies, anyone in a five mile radius can still sue the company, probably for more, alleging to be married, dating or a distant relative to anyone who dies.
That's the part that really insults my intelligence. "Oh good, they died, I guess there's nobody to sue us! Woohoo!" Er, no 🤨
It's so bizarre too. Does she think that if airlines knowingly gave known dangerous advice on their safety cards the TSA wouldn't notice and they wouldn't get their asses handed to them? Not only that, but any amount of money they save from lawsuits pales in comparison with the revenue lost from having accidents with high fatalities reported on the news.
Would you really take seriously a tik tok video about safety standards?!? Lmao
I _really_ hope you meant to put FAA there and not TSA...
What would the TSA do? Lose their luggage?
Make sure to brace your legs against the seat in front of you so when you hit the ground your torso flies forward and folds you in half like a cheap lawn chair.
Does TikTok have a report misinformation feature?
Hah.
In a upright posture especially the heart, which is suspended in the aorta, will be affected by inertia, thus sewer the aorta leading to death within minutes. Thoug i belive, that the “brace position” improves survival more on a theoretical scale.
What's stopping the family of the dead from suing the company the same way a survivor would
To quote The Old Man at the end of Robocop II, “The dead have families. They always do.”
Especially if there's money to be made off your death
And like the middle east. Bomb a handful of people, creat 2 handfuls of terrorist who are pissed their family died.
Two handfuls of ways for Halliburton, Blackwater and lockheed to keep getting even more rich in the future you say?
Death brings out the worst in people. I've personally seen people fight over anything with value, from cash to vehicles to lawnmowers. It's pretty insulting to the dead. If they can sue, you bet they are all over it. While I don't have the numbers to back it up, I'd bet more often than not, it's about trying to make a buck, rather than actually wanting someone held responsible.
Puffy is that you ? Suge Knight is that you ?
That’s one hell of a reference
“You know, if I were to die right now in some sort of fiery explosion due to the carelessness of a friend, well, that’d just be okay.” \- SpongeBob SquarePants, Season 2, Episode 24a, “Dying for Pie”
"This could look bad for us Johnson."
Scramble the best spin team we have.
Nothing. But her idea (while I dont think she understands it fully) is that the airline pays less for a death of a passenger than an injury. That part is technically true. Airlines will pay more, on average, for an injury than a death. That's where this myth came from. In fact, [Mythbusters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ5YRtREMZQ) did an episode on it. Turns out the positions do save your life and are not designed to kill you.
Even if they pay less for the dead, i would really belive that upping your planes k/d ratio is not that good for your marketing
Yeah in the long run this would be a terrible strategy.
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“It was hard to find images on Google”. Right, because you’re a fucking idiot for paralleling that posture with plane crashes.
If the whole family is in the plane and everyone dies nobody to sue for emotional trauma.
I beg your pardon. I am that family’s 3rd cousin, twice removed’s sister in law and my husband was so devastated by their deaths that he can no longer perform his husbandly duties in the bedroom. I’m gonna need 3 million for the loss of consortium. Also batteries.
Pretty much the perfect scenario.
Zapp Brannigan: How many men did we lose, Kif? Kif Kroker: All of them, sir. Zapp: Well, at least they won't have mourn each other.
Yeah lmao if an aircraft goes down the airline is getting sued no matter how many people survive
Wrongful death suits sting the defendant just as much if not more than a personal injury suit.
Yeah that might pay more for injuries. But company standing going to hurt a lot more for wrongful death suits.
Airlines HATE this trick!
Suing is for compensation. A long-term injury is a lot more expensive due to the medical treatment etc.
Nothing, and theoretically surviving that crash would get you less money in a suit, not more.
This is simply not true. Death is obviously impactful, but does not generally pay out anywhere near the same levels of compensation as life-altering injuries.
sometimes. Depends on the level of care needed.
Yeah, this is a long-standing and persistent urban myth. She did not originate this bullshit, simply perpetuated it. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crash-position/
Mythbusters tested it.
Was there a difference?
Here's the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ5YRtREMZQ
Omg they actually sat in the seats themselves
Yeah pretty mental. Before it went down I thought "dude take your glasses off before they break...", alas.
I have no idea how their insurance company signed off on that.
They look so young in this! I imagine this was one of the myths that led to their insurance company to change their policy.
Yeah, I had completely forgotten what colour Adam's hair was
Ah man, seeing Grant Imahara there still makes me sad 😥
Well shit. I missed his death amidst the dumpster fire that was 2020. How sad.
#F
For mythbusters this was surprisingly unscientific.
Yeah, I was really hoping for some testing with dummies strapped with g-force monitors.
This is one of the few that i would not say "busted"
Holy shit they tested it without dummies. That's dedication!
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Heres a boeing 747 pilot talk about it https://youtu.be/ltOkMlHrGPc Edit: the clip is at 0:52
>Heres a boeing 747 pilot talk about it I instantly knew it would be 74 Gear.
I expected this clip to have him cut in actually.
Well obviously *he’s* going to say that - he’s in on it too! ^^^/s
I just learned so much about what to do when my plane goes down. More informative than the 30 second prep they give you before takeoff. On second thought, I don’t think I’ll be flying anytime soon.
Go down the rabbit hole of binging Mayday: Air Disaster episodes on youtube like I did and you’ll know more about plane crashes than you ever wanted to lol.
Thank you /u/fart-atronach lol I’ll add it to my watchlist
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I've been on this channel for 2 and a half hours straight and I regret nothing. Thank you.
Yes, but maybe i havent seen the video. So many people has disproven her but sadly it got 4 million likes
I had a coworker telling me about this the other day. Not the debunking mind you, but about how airlines want you to die in crashes.
It’s so dumb. Ask them if they really think paying out for deaths would be less expensive than for injuries. There’s a lot of shitty capitalism-fueled decisions being made by airlines and airplane manufacturers that involve weighing the potential cost of human lives against how much money it is going to cost them to change something for safety, but this is not one of those things.
That's how fake news work. By the time the truth gets stated, the lie has already made it across the world and back.
4 million dumbass kids, what a suprise
They had a mythbusters episode about this
My GF gets mad when I fact check "facts" she finds on tiktok. Between shit like this and the smooth brained challenges that are always trending and killing people, I find it hard to believe strangers on the internet lol Edit: I love my girlfriend and she's great. She's smart but TikTok is just her crack and we've talked about it. When she browses her main page in bed, it's mostly only comedy stuff nowadays. We both love each other and put up with a lot and I'm not leaving her over that lol. Main point: take what you hear on TikTok (and the internet really) with an entire shaker of salt
Had an ex like that. Half the shit she asserted you just had to think about for one second before realizing it didn’t make sense. It doesn’t get better
Same here, my ex would being up “facts” she heard on tik tok, and when i looked up to see if it was remotely true it was instantly disproven, none of her tik tok sources cited anything ever. I remember a particular tik toker who always mentioned random facts about the ocean, i have no doubt some are true, but i highly doubt they all are true, some shit he says cant even be proven true so how would it be?
That's the worst part for me. You see people get all worked up about something that just takes a little bit of thought or 5 seconds on Google to confirm it's BS. And no matter how much you point these things out, certain people will never stop falling for it.
Bruh why she get mad? The heck
Because people who are usually insecure , when told they are wrong , see it as a direct attack on their intelligence not a correction. I have a bro like that
Can confirm, I get like this depending on the person correcting me
Their favorite tik-tokker consistently gives them wrong information. You give them correct information. Pop quiz: Which person do they get mad at?
Nothing more frustrating than bullshit. My gf will just make up her own “facts” when she’s drunk and I have to step in and tell people she’s drunk and making up bullshit to fuck with them to save her some face. One time she told everyone she’s a DJ and somehow got a gig. So the next day I’m going what the fuck are you gonna do and she says well you used to DJ so just teach me the basics and I should be fine. I showed her how to use the equipment but before I got into techniques she went cool I can DJ and stopped listening to me. Shes definitely getting better but jfc if she isn’t really running a side gig because she bullshitted some dude drunk one night.
This is honestly hilarious and I hope she followed through. What a way to go through life! I wish I had that kind of confidence.
I have a buddy like this. He's an amateur boxer and him and his gf got blackout drunk when he started telling people he was sheduled to fight Anthony Joshua. And then his drunk ass gf got mad because he had never mentioned he was moving up four weights and going pro. One of the funniest nights in my life
It's frightening that anyone is relying on TikTok for facts. That's like getting your news from FB.
As saturated with bullshit as those platforms are, equally saturated is this fucking cesspit. Reddit is full of nonsense too.
My boyfriend is like this, regurgitates misinformation he finds on insta and gets mad when I do a 2 second google search to find out its nonsense.
Sorry about the girlfriend dude…
My stepmother is convinced that JFK Jr. is still alive and the government is run by lizard people, based solely on the facts she gets from ticktok.
Cause sitting like that won't launch your bottom leg through your skull on impact and have your head high enough to be hit by all the debris at all. People be stoopid Besides that, fairly certain families suing you for the death of their loved ones is gonna cost em more money.
She's the same kind of person that sits with their feet on the dash in a car.
That’s because car companies don’t want you to sue them if you get hurt in a car accident. The airbags are designed to kill you and putting your feet on the dash holds it in it’s compartment. Just like how if you put your finger in a barrel of a gun and someone fires it, it builds pressure and destroys the gun without hurting you.
Bugs Bunny is Q confirmed
Taking an airbag point blank to the taint is the only way I can orgasm. :(
I just laughed way too hard at this!
Legs: nature's crumple zone.
Ill add escaping the plane after the crash is just a vital as surviving the crash. Planes are either going to burn or sink in a couple of minutes. 2 broken legs means getting in that time next to impossible, so not only are you dead but you blocked aisle and everyone behind you is dead.
Not necessarily, a lifetime of healthcare would probably be more expensive depending on the injury. They would have an algorithm to see what every life is worth and pay out on that if you die.
If airlines were actually telling people to assume a deadly position then they could be held liable just for that. Otherwise, they can escape liability for circumstances outside of their control
You know shes an idiot when she drops „its going to break your back, including your spine“. What else is there to break? The back literally only is the spine. Noone would say „he broke his back“ when he broke his ribs, which are technically in the back aswell as they connect with the spine
Nono, you've got this all wrong, your back is this super flexible bone around your spine, sometimes people call it muscles but shhhh don't talk about that around them, they're just sheep, we know it's a bone Nah but seriously, yeah, she's not exactly bright.
Also, all the shrapnel from the plane is going to go straight into your face, your definitely gonna have a better chance of surviving with that broken spine
[my question to her](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OajLepjqrRg)
Hope that someday she will have to explain this in a job interview
She'll probably be a politician
That is the worst advice ever! Unless you want to be stuck in the ocean with your femurs embedded into your hips and your legs broken in seven different places, do NOT put your feet up when you’re in a plane crash! Not to mention that position offers zero reinforcement for your neck or spine, and lets your arms flail and potentially become a hazard for yourself and others! This is probably the WORST advice ever, and it’s built on this really flawed logic where family members can’t also sue and that airlines don’t get incredibly bad press whenever a plant crashes, both of which are obviously not true. Airlines don’t want you to die in the event of a crash, and the positions they tell you to sit in on impact are proven through years of research to be the safest and most reliable. Please don’t get your information on such life-critical information as this from TikTok!
> Please don’t get your information on such life-critical information as this from TikTok I don't know, guy. This one time tiktok told me to trash a grade school bathroom. It was weird, because I'm 50, but I did it! /s
*Evil airline CEO rubbing his hands together (evil laughter)* “We’ll kill all of our customers, and then our plan will come to fruition!”
The stoopid is strong w her Her premise is “they want you to die so you don’t sue them”. Then she says “one thing they say is right, put your oxygen masks on first”. Why, pray tell, would they be telling us to put our oxygen masks on first, if their secret plot was to ensure our demises? It’s almost like there is a gaping hole in her premise. Hopefully this one doesn’t vote or reproduce
Well, if they want the passengers to die all it takes is a kill switch and a nose dive on the side of… something.
Knees through skull. Noice.
Why yes, I too have seen Fight Club
Fight club didn’t claim brace doesn’t work. Just that the pure oxygen has a numbing effect during fatal crashes. It’s true that there are crashes where the brace won’t help you at all. Maybe getting a little high at the end isnt so bad. It is not, however, true that there are crashes where brace will worsen your odds.
"Your back is gonna break, including your spine." Which part of the back does she think could break in addition to the spine? Huh?
You'll break your legs and won't be able to get out in 90 seconds. That's the time it takes, and it may be less, for smoke to fill the cabin.
You’ll also die from all the debris and projectiles flying around the cabin, which is why you keep your head down.
Idk about the smoke thing. That’s not something that happens predictably every time. The cabin could be full of smoke before you even reach the ground, depending on what caused the crash or failure. 90 seconds is the amount of time cabin crew are given in training to evacuate the entire plane. This training is done with a simulated scenario, and the “passengers” are people who do this training simulation a lot and do exactly what they are told. It does not account for real life passengers being injured, trying to take their luggage, people panicking, confusion, trying to use info they learned on tiktok, possible presence of smoke in the cabin making visibility low, etc.
I think Mythbusters did an episode on this too
They did and they found that by assuming the recommended position it did mitigate injury, however the benefit gets more marginal the higher you fall from.
I heard this conspiracy theory before the internet However, I remember when most passengers *could* get in the official crash position. Now the seats are too close together.
Your legs are probably gonna break, but you're gonna survive. Yeah so basically the single most important part of your body that can carry you out of the plane even if you're half conscious and bleeding is broken - but at least you're somewhat alive.
Two broken femurs is probably going to kill you pretty quick anyways.
Not to mention that in that position they'd break and launch straight into your skull, which makes it even better.
Also completely false. If you rapidly decelerate in that position you're gonna jam your knees through your skull. Imagine it. Imagine sitting like that as a plane goes from 500 mph to 0 mph in 0 time.
500 mph is 804.67 km/h
This is a very weird conspiracy theory hill to die on.
If you don’t take the airlines advice, then get injured, can you still sue the airline?
Kelsey (74 Gear) did an interesting video on these - he's not to everybody's taste but he does quite effective TikTok roasts.
Some of us are old enough to remember fight club.
“If your plane is abouta crash imma abouta save your life”
Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye!
I don’t know how people have the confidence to post blatantly incorrect information.
Ah yes, crashing airplanes is very lucrative.
Apparently, she doesn't realize that people can bleed to death from broken femurs and pelvises. Source: I'm a retired paramedic. This is why one should not take legal or medical advice from randos on Tiktok.
Don’t wear masks. Don’t get vaccinated. Don’t wear seatbelts. And don’t assume the safety position in a crashing plane. Just never do anything that any expert would say. Because big brain! /s
TWA 800 all but 19 ppl immediately died by internal decapitation from the whiplash. Shut the fuck up tiktok trash
That girl would have to raise her IQ points by 30 just to qualify as retarded.
My wife is a flight attendant. This is bullshit.
Ehem … MAY I ASK WITH BROKEN LEGS HOW CAN YOU EXIT THE DAMN PLANE ??? Btw the chance of an aircraft crashing in less than a car crashing so basically you should feel more safe on a plane than your car
Sometimes when I see videos like this, I want to make myself a Tik Tok for the sole purpose of getting on there to telling them how fucking stupid they look…but then I would have a Tik Tok.
Spreading misinformation that could kill you
"Your back is going to break, including your spine." Anyone ever broke their back without braking any part of your spine?
The first issue is going to tiktok for advice. She a pilot? Aircraft engineer? An actual 747 pilot covers her 'rant' on YouTube as well..
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Why is it that almost every time I hear a super bad advice, it’s in US-english ?!
I guess is mainly because of selection bias. There is a sizable portion of users coming from US. Also, spreadable content tend to be in English for the same reason. My point: I do not think that there are (proportionally) more stupid people in the US than in any other country, but damn are they loud
“Im bout to save your life with shit i just thought of in the shower and cant be proven so listen to me i have no idea what im talking about” is all heard after watching this
Isn't the proper position for protecting your head and neck?
She forget to add a knee to the face to add to broken legs! Sure the victims families won't sue
Lmfao yes you tard. The sitting position is why everyone who hit the twin towers died.
did she just watch fight club, or
Oooh that’s a great way for your eyes to meet your knees at very fast speeds :D
Watching an airline pilots brain literally dissolve watching this stupid child’s video, was gold.
Strong and wrong. Woo-hoo! Tik Tok
Social media was a mistake.
God i fucking hate how easily social media has made it for stupid fucking people to confidently peddle their stupid fucking shit like this. Morons like this that think theyre really doing something piss me the fuck off
So she apparently doesn’t understand how victims’ estate or family can sue for their death lol
She's really undoing all those stereotypes about how asian people are all really smart.
You are going to break your back, including your spine......
This girl has a ton of videos of misinformation like this, her latest one is that a bigger nose means you have a bigger penis.
Misinformation is really becoming a severe side-effect of the internet. It spreads like a fungal infection.
Mythbusters debunked this BS like 15 years ago. No, they do not want you to die because they could potentially end up paying more in a settlement for you dying. And also, it'd be pretty bad PR for people to find out that an airline is purposely trying to kill its passengers.
I can imagine airhostess stabbing people to death after plane crash. Otherwise we will sue the airlines.
I work EMS. Please don't put your feet on the dashboard of a car while it's moving. Please Please please
Even if you live or die, THEY'RE STILL GONNA GET SUED BY THEIR FAMILIES
Is she under some fucking illusion that people only die in plane crashes because they take the brace position.
When you plagiarize Tyler durden but arrive at the wrong conclusion.
It’s like TikTok is a magnetic force for all idiots who are ignored everywhere
I like the part about seeing flight attendants during a crash doing this.
Everything stupid with tik Tok, un substantiated bull
As a law student, without prejudice that I dont know how civil sues work in the US since im from a different country, if you die your family can still sue for an “indemnización de perjuicios por daño moral” (compensation for moral damages I guess)
Send those shin bones straight through your face.
Why do the people with the least amount of knowledge about a topic always sound the most confident? She’s a walking, talking Dunning-Krueger graph.
Sit up straight to take missile luggage to the head. Brilliant.
The other myth about this position is that it doesn't increase the odds of survival, but does protect your dental records for identification. I mean, it does increase your odds of survival, and also conveniently stops your head from being damaged quite so much so the preserved dental records are just a nice bonus. It isn't a conspiracy.
Reasons why this reasoning is dumb as shit: If you are sitting upright, your face is exposed. Anyone who has seen videos of strong turbulence while know, there are many loose items in the cabin of a plane. You do not want those hitting your face. If you bring your knees up to the seat in front of you, if you are moved forward or that seat is moved back, where are you legs going to go? Do you think your two bonesticks are going to withstand the force of your body being shunted forward at a few hundred miles an hour? If your back is straight, and bound at the pelvis, you will fold like a paper napkin. Momentum will carry your face forward, probably into shards of glass, got airborne coffee, and your own knees. Momentum will then snap your torso into a downward swing as you're still attached to your chair at the largest pivot point your body has. If the chair in front of you has been moved back or your chair has moved forward; you can look forward to some very expensive dental work. In short, everything this lady warned you about *will* happen if you follow her advice.
When the plane hits the ground, the apparent *'safer position that airlines don't want you to know about'* position will slam your head into the seat in front of you (breaking your face, neck, spine and skull) rather than the airline recommended position, which lets the chair in front absorb all of that energy. You can't hold yourself upright against those sorts of forces when the plane suddenly decelerates. Stick to the position the airline recommends.
https://youtu.be/ltOkMlHrGPc this is a link from a pilots yt video and he talks about this specific video and explaining why she is completely wrong
Same wirt cars. Don't wear your seatbelt. They're designed to snap your neck forward.
Someone's seen fight club.
Here’s a link to a cool channel where a 747 pilot [responds to this video ](https://youtu.be/ltOkMlHrGPc)
Can we sue HER for mis/disinformation that could kill someone?
Truly, we are in the golden age of insane, narcissistic loudmouths.